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Subject:
Navarro, DNA, Cepeda, Saucedo, Saravia
From:
victorianonavarro
Date:
Fri, 19 Jan 2007 15:15:53 -0800 (PST)

To:
research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org

Hello Juanita,

You may have asked, but I have a hard time keeping up with my e-mail. I
subscribe in digest mode and sometimes miss things, or I just don't check
for several days and forget. I'm the one who needs to apologize!

I have been trying to research Rancho Ojo de Agua near San Miguel El Alto and Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco. I am looking through the LDS film in the 1820-1832 births for San Miguel El Alto. A substantial amount of births are from Rancho Ojo de Agua. Well, in any event, I came across a paper that digs into the history of coffee production and other crops in Mexico, please see link below:

Hi, I’m looking for genealogical and biographical information regarding Victoriano Navarro, his parents Domingo Navarro & María Encarnación Cepeda, and his grandparents José María Navarro & Fernanda Saravia and Rafael Cepeda & Rosa Saucedo.

I have just uploaded photos from my trip to Mexico last month. I have put them in the Albums section:

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15543

There is a photo in there of the cornerstone of the first school in Totatiche, Jalisco which was opened in August of 1725 and apparently the teacher was an ancestor of mine by the name of Joseph Cayetano Grano.

I have extended my Esparza line in Zacatecas I have a Francisco Esparza (b. abt 1830) and his wife Maria Luz Avila (b. abt 1835) if anyone can help me please contact me at my email: mormonboy74@hotmai

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> Hello Juanita,

Sorry for the length of time it took me to reply, but this book does not
have an index and I cannot do quick lookups. That is why I didn't make an
offer to the group and was only able to respond previously when the page

there seems to be some confusion both with the new members and the old
members so I am going to attempt to clear it up.

To be a life time member of the group all you have to do is submit a
representative tree _once_ (only once) and nothing else will be required

Dear Ranchos members,

Tomorrow the Northern California group of Ranchos is going on a Genealogical tour of the Bancroft Library in Berkeley Calif. Maria Cortez has made arrangements with the curator of the Western Americana collection for a tour, thank you Maria.

On the subject of building accurate, easy to follow pedigrees:

The following is an excerpt from the latest newsletter from Pat Gooldy of Ye Olde Genealogy Shoppe in Indiana:

"One of the pitfalls in searching huge databases is the peril of finding a name and assuming that is the individual for which you are searching when indeed that gentleman is not the right age, not in the right place, and indeed, is not related to your fellow at all. That only leads to mythology, not genealogy, and many miffed and confused descendants wondering why they can not follow the scenario for the family you have built. You are building not a pedigree, but a nightmare for your descendants.

Test for Joseph

(Espanol sigue abajo)

I have noticed that many of the new members' genealogy files in the files section are not in a standard genealogy report format. That makes understanding the information very difficult and therefore takes away from the value of the group, which is to share information.

!Hola! me da mucho gusto saber que existe un grupo tan animado buscando las raices de nuestros antepasados ,espero yo tambien poder contribuir en lo que pueda.Mi objetivo es poder hallar informacion de la siguiente familia;Justo Martinez(bisabuelo) Francisca Contreras (bisabuela),Dominga Martinez Contreras (abuela), Toribio Casas (abuelo).Dominga tuvo una sobrina llamada Maria de Jesus Martinez y su esposo Manuel de lara y ellos tuvieron un hijo en 1944 que se llamo Ramiro De lara Martinez.Que tengan mucho exito en su busqueda.Carlos s Casas www.nuestros ranchos.com/node/15508 Joseph contestando a tu pregunta ;creo que Temaxcal no era un apellido sino un pueblo y creo que por eso estaba escrito en la tarjeta que le mando su sobrina.hasta luego!!!

Mickey was very kind to ask George Ryskamp for his input about Bill
Figueroa's question. He is very busy right now making preparations for a
trip to Spain and he said:

He would search the Argena Website, He said early land grants would be

Hi Patria & anyone interested in Ayotlan,
I have created a Ayotlan folder under Jalisco. I have posted 1 photo of Ayotlan so far and will be putting another 40 photos or so to share with all of you when I get an opportunity. These photos are from a trip that I took with my husband and my mother to Ayotlan back in 2004.

While we are on the Gutierres or Gutierrez family, I have a question. Someone entered into the LDS site a Gregorio Gutierrez Jauregui born May 25, 1889 in Valle de Guadalupe to Teodoro Gutierrez and Petra Jauregui. However, no information was on the 2002 Ancestral file and the message on the record say no additional information is available. Does this belong to anyone in the group?

In order for genealogies within the group to be available to all they
should be posted in the "Files" --> "Members Genealogies" --> "Your Last
Name, Your First Name" area of the group. Go there and open your folder

Dear Group--

I came across this site on Wednesday--

http://www.stormlake.com/mexico/index.htm

which shows Santa Rita, Jalisco, where my husband was
born. Apparently a delegation of people came from

My Opinion on what naming convention we should use: that which our
relatives used: Given Name, Fathers Surname, Mothers Surname

If we go mixing it up with the US style where sometimes the mothers

Hello Arturo and others who shared ideas,
Blas was married to Maria Zubiate Cisneros somewhere in Mexico but I'm not sure where. Maria was around 7 years younger than he was and was from Hidalgo del Parral, Chihuahua. I even have her parent's names which I got from her brother's SSI record.

Hello - I am having a difficult time trying to find my great grandfather's family history. His name is Blas Gutierrez and he supposedly was born in Sauceda de la Borda, Zacatecas Mexico in 1844. He died in Los Angeles on September 1, 1911. He was married to Maria Zubiate Cisneros born 1859, she died Dec. 7, 1908 in Los Angeles, California. I found his internment record and tried to find more information through the mortuary with no luck.

Saw a reference to the following site: < http://www.footnote.com/ >
on Megan Smolenyak Smolenyak's blog page
< http://www.rootstelevision.com/blogs/megans-rootsworld.html >
See also: < www.footnote.com/nara > ; for insight to NARA's partnership with Footnote see Dick Eastman's review here: < http://blog.eogn.com/eastmans_online_genealogy/2007/01/national_archiv.html >

I am hoping the subject line is NOT alarming - I just wasn't quite sure how title my query.
Anyway ... I was @ my local FHC on Tues./Jan 9 to view a film I had ordered before the holidays.
On the box was a sticker message that I don't recall ever seeing before (see below):

Does anyone else have lineage in Huanusco, Zacatecas?

I am Daniel. I am from the Mormon Church, the sticker isn't all that big of a deal. The reson why people haven't seen the sticker on the films in the drawers is because those films in the drawers were ordered before the year 2000.