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aajay1073 wrote:

I don't think we would need another bulletin board...that is...if
there was another bulletin board I wouldn't be able to keep up with
both of them...

Angie

No I wouldn't be in favor of another bulletin board. Its either this one
or another one. I would not be opposed to handing the reigns of this
group over to others. This group is not about me but us. As long as the
group stays intact it makes no difference to me if its at Yahoo or some
other site or if I'm the moderator or an active member.

I don't have the time or knowledge to know or learn how to seamlessly
make the transition. If there is enough feedback from the group we can
do a poll of the membership to see how many would be in favor of
pursuing such a plan.

joseph

The bulletin board would be in lieu of this one.  If we wanted ad 
revenue at least, we would have to get a fair amount of traffic on 
the board and I don't think that the database alone would generate 
that.

Plus most bulletin board software allows more flexibility as far as 
what sort of notifications you get (i.e. limited to certain topics) 
and to view messages on the same basis, to show only unread messages, 
etc.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073" <aajay1073@y...> wrote:
> I don't think we would need another bulletin board...that is...if 
> there was another bulletin board I wouldn't be able to keep up with 
> both of them...
> 
> Angie
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@v...> 
> wrote:
> > I volunteer to set up the site with the interactive family tree 
> > software I have on my site currently and to include a bulletin 
> board 
> > system that we can use similar to this list.
> > 
> > We would need to either get small donations to cover a cost of 
> about 
> > $150 a year for hosting or try to make that money back through 
> > advertising on the site... We can get Google ads on the site and 
as 
> > long as people click through on the ads enough, we will probably 
be 
> > able to make back the cost (depending on how many users there are 
> and 
> > how often people go on the site).
> > 
> > My cost estimate is for a hosting package that would give us 3GB 
of 
> > storage.  People could upload files in addition to their 
GEDCOMs.  
> > All of the family information would be searchable by name, place, 
> > etc. and could be searchable on a tree-specific basis or the 
entire 
> > database could be searched at once.  Of course these functions 
> would 
> > only be available for registered members.  How many are there?
> > 
> > --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> > > 20mb + 20mb + 30mb
> > > 
> > > yes yes yes, if about 5-10 people would take and open up a site 
> > like 
> > > yours then I could reopen the main files area for everyone to 
use 
> > as 
> > > they please. Actually we could completely clear out the 
> genealogies 
> > and 
> > > put them all in the links area of the group if everyone just 
made 
> a 

I don't think we would need another bulletin board...that is...if 
there was another bulletin board I wouldn't be able to keep up with 
both of them...

Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Arturo Ramos" <arturo.ramos2@v...> 
wrote:
> I volunteer to set up the site with the interactive family tree 
> software I have on my site currently and to include a bulletin 
board 
> system that we can use similar to this list.
> 
> We would need to either get small donations to cover a cost of 
about 
> $150 a year for hosting or try to make that money back through 
> advertising on the site... We can get Google ads on the site and as 
> long as people click through on the ads enough, we will probably be 
> able to make back the cost (depending on how many users there are 
and 
> how often people go on the site).
> 
> My cost estimate is for a hosting package that would give us 3GB of 
> storage.  People could upload files in addition to their GEDCOMs.  
> All of the family information would be searchable by name, place, 
> etc. and could be searchable on a tree-specific basis or the entire 
> database could be searched at once.  Of course these functions 
would 
> only be available for registered members.  How many are there?
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> > 20mb + 20mb + 30mb
> > 
> > yes yes yes, if about 5-10 people would take and open up a site 
> like 
> > yours then I could reopen the main files area for everyone to use 
> as 
> > they please. Actually we could completely clear out the 
genealogies 
> and 
> > put them all in the links area of the group if everyone just made 
a 
> > website for themselves.
> > 
> > joseph
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > arturoramos2 wrote:
> > 
> > Joseph:
> > 
> > >How much storage space are you using now with all of the Ranchos 
> > >groups and briefcase combined?  How many members are there?  Is 
> > >anybody storing anything more sophisticated than their GEDCOM 
data 
> > >that they are then transmitting in various formats (Word, PDF, 
> etc.)
> > >
> > >Check out my family website (I will send you the link in an 
email) 
> > >and see if you think this might be a possible alternative, where 

I volunteer to set up the site with the interactive family tree 
software I have on my site currently and to include a bulletin board 
system that we can use similar to this list.

We would need to either get small donations to cover a cost of about 
$150 a year for hosting or try to make that money back through 
advertising on the site... We can get Google ads on the site and as 
long as people click through on the ads enough, we will probably be 
able to make back the cost (depending on how many users there are and 
how often people go on the site).

My cost estimate is for a hosting package that would give us 3GB of 
storage.  People could upload files in addition to their GEDCOMs.  
All of the family information would be searchable by name, place, 
etc. and could be searchable on a tree-specific basis or the entire 
database could be searched at once.  Of course these functions would 
only be available for registered members.  How many are there?

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> 20mb + 20mb + 30mb
> 
> yes yes yes, if about 5-10 people would take and open up a site 
like 
> yours then I could reopen the main files area for everyone to use 
as 
> they please. Actually we could completely clear out the genealogies 
and 
> put them all in the links area of the group if everyone just made a 
> website for themselves.
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> 
> arturoramos2 wrote:
> 
> Joseph:
> 
> >How much storage space are you using now with all of the Ranchos 
> >groups and briefcase combined?  How many members are there?  Is 
> >anybody storing anything more sophisticated than their GEDCOM data 
> >that they are then transmitting in various formats (Word, PDF, 
etc.)
> >
> >Check out my family website (I will send you the link in an email) 
> >and see if you think this might be a possible alternative, where 
> >people could upload their GEDCOM files (minus living individuals) 
and 
> >we can simply restrict access completely to members.  In addition, 
we 
> >could use the bulletin board there in lieu of this group and 
people 
> >can sign up for more specific areas of interest to receive email 
> >notification, i.e. by specific geography or topic of posting, etc.
> >
> >We could probably host a site like this for $10-$20 a month if the 
> >database is not too big.
> >
> >

Good evening!
Was someone researching the "Bergara" line in Tlaltenango de Sanchez 
Roman, Zacatecas???

Peggy Delgado

Hello Steven,

Unfortunately, I don't have any of the films you need.  My 
Jalostotitlan ancestry dates much farther back.  Good luck on your 
research and please share your findings with the Ranchos group.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Pacorro73@a... wrote:
> Hello Ranchos,
>  
> I am currently researching the ancestry of one of many alteño 
saints, Santo Toribio Romo, who was born on 16 April 1900, in Santa 
Ana, Jalostotitlan.  His parents were Patricio Romo and Juana 
Gonzalez, who were married in Jalos on 3 June 1885.
>  
> I have run into a few dead ends in two of Santo Toribio's ancestral 
lines.  It's not that the records are not available, I just don't 
have them in my indefinite collection of films at my local family 
history center. 
>  
> My hope is that my Ranchos cousins from Los Altos can help me out.  
So this goes out to Irma Gomez Lucero, Maria E. Sanchez de Cortez, 
Felipe Hermosillo, John Gonzalez, Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg, 
and new member, Connie Dominguez.
>  
> Can anyone out there please search their microfilms and get the 
following records for me please.
>  
> My first request is for the baptism records of Atanacio Muñoz and 
Vicenta Ramirez.  I have not yet identified their parents, and there 
is no mention of their marriage record in the IGI.  They did however 
have 5 children, whose records I'm hoping will mention their 
grandparents names.
>  
>  Atanacio MUÑOZ Born: ca 1783 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Died: 
Unknown 
> .. +Vicenta RAMÍREZ Born: ca 1786 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco 
Married: ca 1805 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Died: Unknown 
> 1  María-Teresa de Jesús MUÑOZ Born: 09 Jan 1807 in Jalostotitlán, 
Jalisco Died: Unknown 
> ... +José-Ricardo Ramón PÉREZ Born: 10 Apr 1802 in Jalostotitlán, 
Jalisco Married: 22 Sep 1824 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Died: Unknown 
Father: Joseph-Miguel Antonio PÉREZ FRANCO Mother: María-Manuela 
MARTÍN DEL CAMPO
> 2 José-Ramón de la Trinidad MUÑOZ Born: 03 Jun 1809 in 
Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Died: Unknown 
> 3 María-Ignacia de San Anastasio MUÑOZ Born: 21 Aug 1813 in 
Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Died: Unknown 
> 4 José-Pedro MUÑOZ Born: 05 Jul 1814 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco 
Died: Unknown 
> 5 María-Estéfana de San Ramón MUÑOZ Born: 28 Dec 1817 in 
Jalostotitlán, Jalisco Died: Unknown 
>  
> Any one of the above baptisms should yield the information I'm 

Alicia:

I can't seem to figure out where the profiles section is.  Can you be 
a little more explicit as to how to go about changing this?

Joseph:

How much storage space are you using now with all of the Ranchos 
groups and briefcase combined?  How many members are there?  Is 
anybody storing anything more sophisticated than their GEDCOM data 
that they are then transmitting in various formats (Word, PDF, etc.)

Check out my family website (I will send you the link in an email) 
and see if you think this might be a possible alternative, where 
people could upload their GEDCOM files (minus living individuals) and 
we can simply restrict access completely to members.  In addition, we 
could use the bulletin board there in lieu of this group and people 
can sign up for more specific areas of interest to receive email 
notification, i.e. by specific geography or topic of posting, etc.

We could probably host a site like this for $10-$20 a month if the 
database is not too big.



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@p...> wrote:
> Joseph, 
>  
> I have recently been perusing the members' profiles and noticed 
that there are many people who have blank profiles. The profiles 
section allows us to post some favorite links, a little about each of 
us, one photograph and a favorite quote, it even entices you to 
create a free web page via yahoo/geocities.com. Even I the clumsy non-
techy person was able to create a very simple page. I would encourage 
others to do the same and while I like the who's who I think we 
should also take the time to fill out the member profiles.
>  
> I am slowly but surely advancing in my research and would be 
willing to put a link to my homepage with some of my geneaological 
data once I submit it. I realize that it would be public and not 
private but I would not be putting any data for living family members.
>  
>  
> Alicia
>  
> 
> 
> Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Pacorro73@a... wrote:
> 
>   I look forward to checking out any of your submissions to the 
files section of Ranchos, if Joseph allows it.
> 
> 
> I do! In fact I allow every member (that's the requirement for 
members only). . .I allow each and every member to go to the files 
and links areas of the group and look into (thoroughly study is more 
like it) the individual folders and links to personal webpages of 

If unable to log on, please try the below website.


http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/matrimonios.htm

--- Alberto Duarte <albertodua@...> wrote:

> FYI:
> For those members researching family names from
> Jerez,
> Zacatecas, this website has marriage records going
> back to the early 1700s.
> 
> Alberto Duarte
> Santa Maria, California
> 
> Note: forwarded message attached.
> 
> 
> __________________________________________________
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> http://mail.yahoo.com > Subject: Matrimonios,
Religiosos, Civiles, Jerez,
> identidad e historia, de Jerez Zacatec
> Date: Mon, 18 Jul 2005 09:37:14 -0700
> From: "Duarte, Albert" <aduarte@...>
> To: <albertodua@...>
> 
>  
>  
> ________________________________
> 
> Alojamiento ofrecido por el Grupo HispaVista
> HispaVista
> <http://www.hispavista.com> 
> Partidas  de Matrimonio, Año: 1731
>
<http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/1731-13751.htm>
> 	
> Partidas  de Matrimonio, Año: 1732
>
<http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/1731-1375.htm>
> 	
> Partidas  de Matrimonio, Año:
>
<http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/1731-1375.htm>
> 1761-1770	
> Parte de la A a la C
>
<http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/ac.htm>
> 	 Parte
> de la D a la F
>
<http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/df.htm>
> 	
> Parte de la G a la J
>
<http://jerezzacatecas.galeon.com/archivo/paternidad/gj.htm>
> 	 Parte
> de la L a la O

FYI:
For those members researching family names from Jerez,
Zacatecas, this website has marriage records going
back to the early 1700s.

Alberto Duarte
Santa Maria, California

Note: forwarded message attached.


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Joseph:

I have fixed some spelling errors (mostly missing accents) and changed
 the wording somewhat to take out Anglicisms, etc. and use more
conventional Spanish idioms and vocabulary:

Gracias por su interés en hacerse miembro del grupo Ranchos
(http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/).  El grupo Ranchos es un
pequeño pero dedicado grupo de investigadores serios.  Lo siguiente es
una descripción del grupo:
"Este grupo es para personas que activamente buscan sus raíces
mexicanas.  El objetivo de este grupo cibernético es para poner en
contacto genealogistas serios que tienen raíces en Jalisco, Zacatecas,
y Aguascalientes, y así facilitar las investigaciones genealógicas de
los miembros.  La intención, pero nunca la regla, es permanecer
enfocados en los ranchos de Jalisco, Zacatecas y Aguascalientes.
Nuestra definición de "rancho" es la siguiente: "un agrupamiento de
habitantes al nivel más pequeño, que corresponde a una comunidad o
vecindario".  Si usted es un investigador serio, o si quiere llegar a
serlo, este grupo es para usted.
Esperamos que una vez que se sienta cómodo como integrante del grupo,
proporcione una descripción de los apellidos, área geográfica, y
periodo de sus investigaciones.
Si usted decide hacerse miembro del grupo, tiene que estar de acuerdo
y dispuesto a cumplir con dos simples requisitos:
1. Hacer o estar dispuesto a hacer sus propias investigaciones.  Hay
personas que se aprovechan del extenso trabajo de otros y no
contribuyen nada a cambio.  Si usted piensa que no puede, o no desea
cumplir con esta regla, le sugerimos visitar uno de los varios foros
disponibles en Rootsweb.
2. Estar dispuesto a someter su árbol genealógico para que lo podamos
incluir en el una área del grupo que no es accesible al público.
Sin embargo, si tiene alguna otra reservación sobre las reglas de
integrarse al grupo, tome un poco de tiempo y píenselo seriamente. 
Mientras se decide, visite la página del grupo y lea los mensajes, que
son disponibles al público.
Si usted llena los requisitos indicados en la descripción procedente,
y si decide integrarse al grupo, por favor mándeme un correo
electrónico a: makas@... indicando que está de acuerdo con las
expectativas y luego lo integraremos al grupo.  La fuerza de nuestro
grupo es la unidad de los miembros.  Los miembros hayan conexiones,
comparten su trabajo, y se ayudan mutuamente.  Algunos de los miembros

Have you tried records for San Miguel el Alto?