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Emile, were these families from Jerez?

Alberto

--- Emilie Garcia <auntyemfaustus@...> wrote:
> Hi, Joseph,
> 
> It is a death certificate from February 7 (?)
> (siete) 1822.  He died of la grippe (gripa?).(or
> colic).  He was the  second husband of Mrs. Ramires,
> his widow, or it was his second marriage, I can't
> quite figure that out  It does look like his mother
> was Ynes Flores de Lisar.
> 
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joseph Puentes
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:17 PM
> To: LosRanchos
> Subject: [ranchos] I Need Help with Penmanship: Ynes
> Flores de ??????
> 
> 
> If any of you have time could you look at this
> record and tell me what  
> you think Simon Torres' wife's complete name is?
> Seems to me that it is
> Maria Ynes Flores de ???Lisar. . .Lisas. . .Livar. .
> .Livan. . .???
> 
> What is "Colico?"
> 
> Can anyone make out the date of the record?
> 
> shucks if anyone has time maybe you could give
> whatever details you have  
> time to decipher.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: Pedro Torres was my GGGG grandfather via his
> marriage to my GGGG  
> grandmother Maria Gertrudis Marquez and their
> daughter my GGG  
> grandmother Eduarda Torres--->GG grandfather Cecilio
> Puente--->G  
> grandfather Julio Puente--> grandfather Julio
> Puentes
> 
> AND I also believe Pedro Torres was my GGGG
> grandfather when he later  
> married Maria Josefa Ramirez after Gertrudis Marquez
> died (most likely)  
> and their son Rafael Torres my GGG
> grandfather--->Andrea Torres GG  
> grandmother-->Francisco Diaz G
> grandfather--->Virginia Diaz grandmother.
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According to my wife, Colico (colic), has to do with a
stomach aliment.  She told me the stomach inflates
with air which sometimes results in death. 

For a long time, the drinking water in Mexico was not
treated, which probably caused many deaths, especially
in young children and older adults.

Alberto.
--- Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@...> wrote:
> Joseph,
>  
> Is this a death certificate. It seems as if it might
> say "murio de colico", meaning died of a colic.
> Does this make sense?
> Alicia
> 
> Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:
> 
> If any of you have time could you look at this
> record and tell me what 
> you think Simon Torres' wife's complete name is?
> Seems to me that it is
> Maria Ynes Flores de ???Lisar. . .Lisas. . .Livar. .
> .Livan. . .???
> 
> What is "Colico?"
> 
> Can anyone make out the date of the record?
> 
> shucks if anyone has time maybe you could give
> whatever details you have 
> time to decipher.
> 
> thanks,
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: Pedro Torres was my GGGG grandfather via his
> marriage to my GGGG 
> grandmother Maria Gertrudis Marquez and their
> daughter my GGG 
> grandmother Eduarda Torres--->GG grandfather Cecilio
> Puente--->G 
> grandfather Julio Puente--> grandfather Julio
> Puentes
> 
> AND I also believe Pedro Torres was my GGGG
> grandfather when he later 
> married Maria Josefa Ramirez after Gertrudis Marquez
> died (most likely) 
> and their son Rafael Torres my GGG
> grandfather--->Andrea Torres GG 
> grandmother-->Francisco Diaz G
> grandfather--->Virginia Diaz grandmother.
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If any of you have time could you look at this record and tell me what
you think Simon Torres' wife's complete name is? Seems to me that it is
Maria Ynes Flores de ???Lisar. . .Lisas. . .Livar. . .Livan. . .???

What is "Colico?"

Can anyone make out the date of the record?

shucks if anyone has time maybe you could give whatever details you have
time to decipher.

thanks,

joseph

ps: Pedro Torres was my GGGG grandfather via his marriage to my GGGG
grandmother Maria Gertrudis Marquez and their daughter my GGG
grandmother Eduarda Torres--->GG grandfather Cecilio Puente--->G
grandfather Julio Puente--> grandfather Julio Puentes

AND I also believe Pedro Torres was my GGGG grandfather when he later
married Maria Josefa Ramirez after Gertrudis Marquez died (most likely)
and their son Rafael Torres
my GGG grandfather--->Andrea Torres GG
grandmother-->Francisco Diaz G grandfather--->Virginia Diaz grandmother.

If any of you have time could you look at this record and tell me what
you think Simon Torres' wife's complete name is? Seems to me that it is

Maria Ynes Flores de ???Lisar. . .Lisas. . .Livar. . .Livan. . .???

What is "Colico?"

Can anyone make out the date of the record?

shucks if anyone has time maybe you could give whatever details you have
time to decipher.

thanks,

joseph

ps: Pedro Torres was my GGGG grandfather via his marriage to my GGGG
grandmother Maria Gertrudis Marquez and their daughter my GGG
grandmother Eduarda Torres--->GG grandfather Cecilio Puente--->G
grandfather Julio Puente--> grandfather Julio Puentes

AND I also believe Pedro Torres was my GGGG grandfather when he later
married Maria Josefa Ramirez after Gertrudis Marquez died (most likely)
and their son Rafael Torres my GGG grandfather--->Andrea Torres GG
grandmother-->Francisco Diaz G grandfather--->Virginia Diaz grandmother.

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I've been playing with the colors but can't seem to get it back to the
place we were. I don't like the yellow letters to the left but I can't
seem to change those colors. If someone out there with more color
aptitude than I wants to send me a few suggestions I'll give them a try.

thanks,

joseph

ps: April 15th is just a matter of days away.

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Peggy,

I just checked the "Diccionario Geográfico, Histórico y Biográfico de
los Estados Unidos Mexicanos" by Antonio García Cubas, there is a link
to it in the links section of the group.  It talks about a Teul in
Tlaltenango, Zacatecas.

I hope this helps.

Jonathan

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "PeggyDelgado" <peggydee@c...> wrote:
> 
> I have a small problem.  I was trying to find my maternal 
> grandfather, who was born in, according to his INS Green card, Teul 
> in Zacatecas, but I can't find him.  How many Teuls are there in 
> Zacatecas besides Teul de Gonzales and Teul de Jimenez?  I looked at 
> both records for his birth year and still couldn't find him.  Is 
> there another Teul?

Alicia,

Me uno a tí para darle la bienvenida a Armando, pero estoy en 
desacuerdo contigo.

Con todo respeto para nuestros amigos hispano-parlantes, pero tu no 
tienes nada que envidiarle a nadie respecto a tu Español.

Si nunca hubiera leído ninguna palabra tuya, excepto el mensaje de 
abajo, no tendría la menor duda que el Espanol es tu primer lengua.  

Felicidades!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@p...> wrote:
> Bienvenido Armando,
>  
> En la forma que escribes el espanol parece que has estudiado en 
Mexico. Que envidia tengo porque como quiciera poder escribir como tu 
escribes. 
>  
> Mi nombre es Alicia Avelar Aguayo, Olmos, Ruiz de Carrillo y vivo 
junto con mi esposo en San Jose, California. Mis padres me trajeron a 
Estados Unidos cuando tenia apenas dos anos de edad y jamas he 
estudiado el espanol, ni en Mexico ni en Estados Unidos. Nuestros 
padres inculcaron en nostoros el amor a nuestra lengua, cultura, 
comida, musica, su gente y todo lo que es tradicional de Mexico. Naci 
en Tlachichila Zacatecas que pertenece al Municipio de Nochistlan. 
Nochistlan se encuentra en la parte sur de Zacatecas y justo en 
Nochistlan colinda con el estado de Jalisco.
>  
> He notado que tu direccion de correo electronico habla de tres 
paises, sera porque deciendes de tres nacionalidades? Me intereso 
mucho tu mensaje porque eres la primer persona que se comunica solo 
en espanol. 
>  
> Hasta luego y bienvenido al grupo, Alicia
>  
>  
> 

I have a small problem.  I was trying to find my maternal
grandfather, who was born in, according to his INS Green card, Teul
in Zacatecas, but I can't find him.  How many Teuls are there in
Zacatecas besides Teul de Gonzales and Teul de Jimenez?  I looked at
both records for his birth year and still couldn't find him.  Is
there another Teul?

I have a small problem.  I was trying to find my maternal 
grandfather, who was born in, according to his INS Green card, Teul 
in Zacatecas, but I can't find him.  How many Teuls are there in 
Zacatecas besides Teul de Gonzales and Teul de Jimenez?  I looked at 
both records for his birth year and still couldn't find him.  Is 
there another Teul?

       Distinguidos y estimados compatriotas.
Les deseo lo mejor en este ano.
Estoy muy ancioso de conocer a familiares lejanos de la familia LOPEZ
de Arandas, y Jesus Maria, Jalisco.
Mi abuelo, Aureliano Lopez Hurtado, n. 1911, en Jesus maria.
Su padre, Vicente Lopez, n. Mayo 19, 1888, en Jesus Maria?, o Arandas,
Jal., no estoy seguro.
Su padre, de Vicente Lopez, Gregorio Lopez, n. 1852, en Guadalajara,
Jal., de donde provienen mis antacadentes.
Pienso que de alli viene de Analco, porque eran Rancheros 'criollos'.
No se en cual rancho residaron, en Los Altos, quisiera
desesperadamente saber.
No tengo comunicacion con ellos.
La familia hoy en dia vive en Los Angeles, Ca.
Se mudaron alli en 1930., con todos los hermanos de Aureliano.
Si alguien es LOPEZ de alii, por favor contactenme, y chequen mis

mensajes, en 'LOPEZ GENEALOGY.COM'
Gracias, y buena suerte a todos.
Sinceramente, Armando J. Lopez V.

       Distinguidos y estimados compatriotas.
Les deseo lo mejor en este ano.
Estoy muy ancioso de conocer a familiares lejanos de la familia LOPEZ 
de Arandas, y Jesus Maria, Jalisco.
Mi abuelo, Aureliano Lopez Hurtado, n. 1911, en Jesus maria.
Su padre, Vicente Lopez, n. Mayo 19, 1888, en Jesus Maria?, o Arandas, 
Jal., no estoy seguro.
Su padre, de Vicente Lopez, Gregorio Lopez, n. 1852, en Guadalajara, 
Jal., de donde provienen mis antacadentes.
Pienso que de alli viene de Analco, porque eran Rancheros 'criollos'.
No se en cual rancho residaron, en Los Altos, quisiera 
desesperadamente saber.
No tengo comunicacion con ellos.
La familia hoy en dia vive en Los Angeles, Ca.
Se mudaron alli en 1930., con todos los hermanos de Aureliano.
Si alguien es LOPEZ de alii, por favor contactenme, y chequen mis 
mensajes, en 'LOPEZ GENEALOGY.COM'
Gracias, y buena suerte a todos.
Sinceramente, Armando J. Lopez V.

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Great great suggestion. Everyone should take Angie up on her offer to
help if you have any problems. This is really pretty straight forward.
So why not gather your names and places within our Target area (Jalisco,
Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes) and put them into the database? That way
someone can see the short description and locations and be able to then
go directly to your file to see if there is a connection. I'm going to
do this soon but time prevents me from doing it for the next week or so
because of an exam I need to study for. . .

thanks Angie,

joseph


aajay1073 wrote:

HELLO EVERYONE:

I was thinking...

As the group gets bigger and as new members join, it might be easier
to keep track of one another if we had a central sign in area. I
thought if we created a database and everyone entered themselves into
that table, it would help some. The database section of the group is
only available to memebers only.

Here are some instructions on how to add yourself to the database:

1.  On the left hand side menu, click on "Database".
2.  You should see a list of tables, click on "Who's Who".

Note: Here is a direct link to skip step 1 and 2 ->
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/database?method=reportRows&tbl=2

3.  Click on "Add Record"
4.  Type in your information and Select the "Save Record" button.
5.  You should now see your information in the table.

Let me know if you have any suggestions, comments, questions, etc...

Thanks,
Angie Godina







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Hi all,

I'm new to this group but I would like to say what I'm
searching for at this point. 

I'm looking for any information on the family of my
great-grandparents, Nicanor Pineda and Emilia
Gonzalez, both from Tlaltenango, Zacatecas.  They came
to Laredo, Texas in the 1920s.  

Based on the 1930 Census records that I've found,
Nicanor Pineda was born around 1895 and his wife,
Emilia Gonzalez was born around 1907.  I've looked at
some of the 1890s microfilm from Tlatenango at my
local FHC but have not really had any luck.  I've
realized at this point that the Census records can
often be wrong with dates.  What was interesting was
that I did not find one 'Pineda' but there were
several people with the name 'Pinedo.'

I'm hoping this may connect with somebody out there. 
As a side note, I do have extensive information on my
family roots in Nuevo Leon and Mier, Tamaulipas.  I'll
be loading up later today.

Hope to hear from someone,

Chris Pineda


		
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HELLO EVERYONE:

I was thinking...

As the group gets bigger and as new members join, it might be easier 
to keep track of one another if we had a central sign in area.  I 
thought if we created a database and everyone entered themselves into 
that table, it would help some.  The database section of the group is 
only available to memebers only.

Here are some instructions on how to add yourself to the database:

1.  On the left hand side menu, click on "Database".
2.  You should see a list of tables, click on "Who's Who".
Note: Here is a direct link to skip step 1 and 2 -> 
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/database?method=reportRows&tbl=2

3.  Click on "Add Record"
4.  Type in your information and Select the "Save Record" button.
5.  You should now see your information in the table.

Let me know if you have any suggestions, comments, questions, etc...

Thanks,
Angie Godina