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Si buscas en los protocolos puedes ver si alguen hizo algo malo y lo metieron en la carcel .

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Welester G. Alvarado Carrillo

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Stacy, it says the following in Spanish;

En la Villa de S Juan a 12 de Febrero de ochocientos sincuenta y cinco el Pbro D Luis Losano con licencia del S Cura, presb del respetivo consentimiento, case y vele (religious church language)Dn Cipriano Garcia de treinta y tres anos de edad, originario y vesino de esta villa, viudo de Doña Antonia Ramires, sepultada en el campo santo de Lagos hase 5 años, hijo legitimo del finado don Marical Garcia y Da Tomasa Ornelas y Da Teodocia Franco, celive de 24 años de edad, originaria de Villa de la Encarnacion y vecina aqui hase 6 años, hija legitima de D Calletano Franco y de la finada, Da Filomena Guzman. Tomadas sus declaraciones. followed by Church language..............Padrinos, D Juan Ca y Da Rosalia Gallo. Fueron testigos, Miguel Medina y Julian Ramires.

I have included only the pertinent facts/data and not the required church verbage

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

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From: Stacy Latocha Newelt
To: research@lists

Announcements (banns) are supposed to be made three consecutive Sundays prior to the wedding, so this suggests at least three weeks prior. However, I've also seen the informacion matrimonial much closer to the wedding.

If a dispensation is needed, it could be months prior.

Thus, I think 6 weeks prior is a good time to start; if you don't find anything, try 2 or 3 months prior to that.

If the informacion matrimonial is not found, it is also possible that it was done in a different parish if one of the partners was not from the parish where the wedding took place.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Hello Edward,

The books on DNA testing are outdated and don't do proper comparisons or
explanations. DNA testing is a new field and advances are happening too
rapidly. Learning is done through websites and blogs.

Ancestry.com and Family Finder do autosomal testing. Autosomal testing
looks at the DNA that you inherited from all of your ancestral lines. You
don't inherit autosomal DNA from all of your ancestors but you do inherit
autosomal DNA from all of your ancestors. It can be confusing and hard to
explain.The following site has charts that can somewhat explain what you
are wanting to know http://www.dnainheritance.kahikatea.net/autosomal.html

Family Finder is much better than Ancestry.com because it allows you to see
which chromosome you coincide with your matches. This allows for
triangulation in order to pinpoint which ancestors passed down that segment
of autosomal DNA. Family Finder also tells you how much autosomal DNA you
have in common. Anything less than 5.5 is called IBS

Hi Consuelo, please see my family line as I have many Robalcaba (various spellings), Soto and Sanches from Teocaltiche, Arroyo Seco, Jalisco. Please let me know if you see any familiar names. I too have Robalacaba fom Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes.

Consuelo,

I do have some connections with the Udave family. While they are seemingly not related to me, they did marry into my husband's family the Bargas or Vargas from Teocaltiche but the Udave's I have originated in Villa Hidalgo and then moved to Nochistlan, Zac.

Will you by chance be attending the conference in Sacramento on Sept 14th. Nueva Galicia Genealogcial Society.
http://www.nuevagalicia.net/special_events/

You'd get to meet other members with common interests and from the same region and you and I could review and exchange information. There will be two speakers presenting on Nueva Galicia with a focus on our regions. I will contact you off-line.

Alicia

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From: Consuelo Udave
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 3:46 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] As a brand new member...

I'd like to provide a brief introduction of my genealogy background for the membership at Nuestros Ranchos:

I began my mother's

Welcome, I like your resume!

I know you'll accomplish your goals. We have a few common surnames that we're researching. Most of mine are from Jalisco and Zacatecas.

I have a free RootsWeb.com Family Tree that perhaps may help you. It's called "jalisco families" and this is the link

http://worldconnect.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=jalisco_fa…

Jose Carlos de Leon

They may or may not be related, since Autlán, Jalisco is a long way from San Francisco del Rincon, Gto (417 km), but I have found three generations of Juan de León in Autlán.

The first was married to Juana Franco

The second Juan de León, son of the of the first, married Juana de Medina 21 Nov 1738 in Autlán. That would put the first Juan de León as born ca.1688
assuming 25 yrs per generation. Here is the image of the marriage https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18522-1079-5?cc=1874591&wc=M….

The third Juan de León died 24 May 1788 in Autlán. He was the son of the second couple. Here is that image. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18531-30756-96?cc=1874591&wc…

I don{t know if it will help, but you never know. I just saw that the second Juan de León was from Guachinango, Jalisco which is a little closer toSan Francisco del Rincon (357 km).

Good luck!

Sergio Salés

Angelica Iglesias Amador--I am also looking for some information on Bartola. and Victorio. My great grandfather was one of their kids. Crispin Amador, b 1890. He married Luisa Delgadillo. Did you find any more info on the Amador's or Romo's, specifically Victorio or Bartola? I hit a road block.

Hi
You would have thought they would have changed it (M) after our
conversation. It was giving them problems. I guess they 'forgot'.

MG

In a message dated 8/18/2013 11:58:59 A.M. Central Daylight Time,
chilerey@msn.com writes:

Thank you everybody. I just put the capital letter M(exico) and and it
worked . Muy strange ,but it worked.

thank you

Ronnie Reynoso pariente a casi todos de Los Altos

Jessica

Your query is somewhat vague.

I assume what you are saying is that you have found a reference for an extracted church record, but are having trouble finding the original.

The extracted records almost, but not always, give you the film number, for the record. The posted films often, but again not always, start with the film number. This will tell you if you are looking at the right film.

If the posted films do not have the number, then look up the film number in the FHL catalog, This will identify the film by the period covered so you can go to the right group of records at the website.

After than, the records should be in chronological order. That is usually true, but note that auxilliary chapels may have their records separate from the main parish records, often just a group at the end of each month. If the volume of records is in poor condition, the pages may be out of order.

Some of the apparently extracted records are actually from information submitted by individuals

Hello Marta,

I don't have any information on your Joseph Rodriguez; however, I was wondering if you know who his wife's parents were ... I think one possibility is Miguel Vargas and Catarina Aguilar, if so we might have a common ancestor.

-Angelina-