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Regards, Denise Fastrup

Thanks to a little girl's pinkie bone.  Fascinating!

--- On Fri, 8/31/12, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

From: Alicia Carrillo
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNA of The Denisovens of Siberia
To: "general@nuestrosranchos.org"
Date: Friday, August 31, 2012, 11:11 PM

Today while driving home from work, I was listening to NPR specifically to the California Report about a just published study in a science journal about the DNA findings of the Denisovens. To those of you who might be more experienced in DNA, this might be old news, but for me, this is new news. I came home straight to my computer to search for articles about our ancient ancestors, the Denisovens.

Alicia,
Northern California

Here's a brief intro into this article, I hope you find it as fascinating as I did.

THE Denisovans, mysterious cousins of the
Neanderthals, occupied a vast realm stretching from the chill expanse of Siberia to the steamy tropical forests of Indonesia - suggesting the
third human of the Pleistocene

>> Anyway my too long of point is I don't think it matters where you go you just need to be aware that what comes back may look surprising so you may need to do some additional research to make sense of it.

Applause!!!

Very well said. Our story was not inspired by DNA results, but rather the appearance of a Mongolian birthmark on our first-born son. Both my husband and I were doing some head scratching. Our families were all speculating about the Mongolian immigration, indigenous lineage, etc. Research has now shown us that my husband's great grandfather immigrated to Mexico from China. Now I look forward to some fun when we finally get our DNA testing done.

Emilie,

It is interesting to see you also got Haplogroup C. I notice not many members here have that MtDNA Haplogroup.

I also have Haplogroup C, and I noticed many in the same Haplogroup do have their ancestral origins in New Mexico.

Hello Emilie,

The colonization of the Americas happened about close to 15,000-18,000
years ago and there were 15 founding mtDNA lineages according to the two
following articles.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2011/10/111020145054.htm

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/06/100628170926.htm

Native American Y-DNA is also an interesting subject. Hopefully more
studies will be realized with those groups in the coming years. In the
following page they compare Sioux, Chippewa, Pima, Tarahumara, Nahua, and
Otomí, and Qechua speakers.

http://dienekes.blogspot.com/2012/05/y-chromosome-diversity-in-native.h…

Your mtDNA haplogroup started 40,000 years ago and they determine that by a
calculation of mutation rates. Your ancestor that had that first mutation
lived in Asia and her descendants didn't cross the Bering Strait until
15,000-18,000 years ago. A mutation is the sudden change in genes or
chromosomes between an organism or being and an offspring. This is what
caused

Primero que nada bienvenido al foro,,, al parecer somos parientes te mando datos de ancestros de Francisco y de Tomasa Garcia, yo desciendo por dos lineas de este francisco ya que caso dos veses primero con Tomasita Garcia y despues con Dolores Gomez de Mendoza,,, del Matrimonio de francisco de Mendoza y Tomasita deciendo de Maria Manuela Gtz casada con Nicolas Glz de Ruvalcaba

espero le puedas entender ,,cualquier duda estoy a tus ordenes
Ancestros de Francisco Gtz

1ra Generación

1. Francisco Gutierrez De Hermosillo nació el 3 Abr. 1687 en Ocotlan, Jalisco, Mexico y murió en una fecha desconocida.

Padre: 2. Lazaro Gutierrez Hermosillo nació en 1654 y murió en una fecha desconocida.

Madre: 3. Ines de la Mora nació el 10 Feb. 1669 en Ocotlán, Jalisco, México y murió en una fecha desconocida.

2da Generación (Padres)

2. Lazaro Gutierrez Hermosillo nació en 1654 y murió en una fecha desconocida. El se casó con Ines de la Mora el 7 Feb. 1684 en Ocotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.

Me da gusto que has ingresado al foro. Bienvenido Salvador.
Cuenta conmigo si tienes preguntas sobre genealogia u
otra cosa con gusto te ayudo.

Daniel Méndez Camino
mendezdelcamino@live.com

You have posted links to the indexed data instead of the images which is more important since they contain info not found in the index.

Have you gone through the images of Información Matrimonial? If not, then you need to and you should index them and share them.

Have you done a Y-DNA 37 marker test with FamilyTreeDNA.com Mexico project? If not you should also do that at http://www.familytreedna.com/group-join.aspx?Group=Mexico-DNA

Armando

Gloria Casillas
trate de ayudarte pero sin exito, leí el acta y ella se llama mariana, originaria de tizapan el alto, busque ahí, pero las actas comienzan a partir de 1817, intenta con los hijos de la pareja, en ocasiones los familiares son los padrinos y por medio de ellos encuentres el lugar de nacimiento o en los censos, de estos últimos no se mucho y no he encontrado quien me ayude con esto. También busque la descendencia de Marcos Timoteo Garza y María Josefa Pantoja y no encontré nada, tal vez aun no están indexados. Suerte espero los encuentres.

Ann, do you have the image number, year, and place so that we can help
you? I think you will find several ways of writing his name. I look at
his siblings to see what spelling is used for their father/mother and I
choose by majority rule? Also in marriage records the name may vary as
well. I choose the name I like but I also keep the name on the record for
verification. That is just me. I'm sure others have better ideas.
-Esther

On Sat, Aug 18, 2012 at 5:33 PM, wrote:

> I would like to get more info on my grandfather--for one what is the
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It's a given name.

________________________________
From: Alice Blake
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 28, 2012 5:22 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Yrinea

Hello Everyone,
Is "Yrinea" a given or surname, or both?   Thanks so much for your help.  Alice

Juan Francisco
Probablemente la aclaracion se encuentre en el documento que mencionas en la Biblioteca Publica de Jalisco. Al tratarse de un pleito de herencia de tierras se han de mencionar antecedentes con nombres y lugares.

¿Sera posible conseguirlo via internet? voy a investigarlo,
¿algun miembro del foro que radique en guadalajara y sepa el camino?

Saludos
Luis A. Valdes

Gloria Casillas
revisa en los informes matrimoniales o en los matrimonios de lagos de moreno, en la pagina de familysearch, muchos matrimonios aun no están indexados, así que he tenido que buscar acta por acta en los libros, en algunos matrimonios a veces he tenido suerte y los he encontrado. por el momento no cuento con computadora y desde mi celular es difícil la búsqueda, pero en una oportunidad reviso el libro y te ayudo con la búsqueda.

Gloria Casillas
hola encontré esto espero te sirva
policarpio melano
https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenna…

Tomas González
https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenna…

Gloria Casillas
Espero esto te sirva, no encontré el matrimonio pero si algunos hijos
https://familysearch.org/search/records/index#count=20&query=%2Bgivenna…

Look up the church phone number on the internet. usually each Diocese has their own website that list the phone number, address and office hours with days open. Most have long lunches but open late and on weekends. Small town churches may only be open 4 hours on the days they are open.

You have to get a name of office personnel and be very nice and polite. Being able to speak decent spanish helps. Don't ask for too much right away and always be willing to be extra patient with them. We are asking them for "actas" for unusually old dates and time. Having an exact dates helps them alot. If the church has a web address, you can scan the document. This will help them because then they don't have to look in the old archives, which they don't like doing since the books are old and brittle.

What has helped me is that I took a vacation to the towns and visited with the office workers at the churches I was interested in. As I've found things I call and speak directly with the person I need.

Hola Juan Francisco:
No he podido encontrar un documento donde se muestre a Juan Sanchez Castellanos como esposo de Tomasina de Haro. ¿tienes alguno?

En la dispensa de matrimonio de Rodrigo Sanchez Castellanos (1684) se mensiona a:
Tomasina de Haro- su abuela
no se mensiona el nombre de su abuelo
Manuel Sanchez Castellanos- su padre
Josepha de Rodas- su madre

Nicolas debio ser hermano de este Manuel

saludos
Luis A. Valdes

Hola Luis,

Segun la pagina, "pueblosamerica", hay una localidad llamada "las can'as" en Huejucar, Jalisco, cercas de Colotlan. Quizas ese sea el que tu buscas, aqui te mando el link.

http://mexico.pueblosamerica.com/i/las-canas-8/

Suerte,
Roberto Hdez