Bienenido Victor,
Al igual que tu estoy investigando ancestros en Jalisco principalmente
y algunos en Aguascalientes y Zacatecas. Tengo casi 10 años haciendo
estos estudios. Es posible que los apellidos Mora y Martinez de tu
En el transcurso de las investigaciones sobre mis antepasados en México me hé dado cuenta de que en lugares como los Altos de Jalisco en donde se evitó concientemente el mestizaje, es posible seguir la linea de asendencia de las familias que se asentaron en esos lugares durante el tiempo de la Colonia. Como en mi caso 'Los Navarro de Tepatitlán' que espero poder estudiar en los libros por salir del Lic. González Leal, ojalá pronto. Tuve problemas con dos de mis antepasados pues encontré varias personas con el mismo nombre y apellido, en un caso ambos apellidos son idénticos aunque los padres del bautizado son diferentes, todos en la misma época y en Tepatitlán.
Hi,
I was very much interested in the discussion in Spanish of the evolution of
surnames. I can kind of translate it as I read it, but there are some parts
that I am not getting. This is a very interesting topic. Can anyone give a
Hola a todos:
Mi nombre es Víctor Manuel Ortiz Martínez, nacido el 16 de mayo de 1950 en Guadalajara, Jalisco. Actualmente estoy jubilado del Instituto Nacional de Estadística, Geografía e Informática, INEGI, donde trabajé por más de treinta años, primero en el levantamiento de la Carta Topográfica de la República Mexicana, lo que me llevó a viajar por todo el país. Posteriormente, en la investigación documental de nombres geográficos.
I have not posted since my introduction when I joined a few months ago but since then I have ordered the film for my great-grandparent's marriage. They were married in San Diego De Alejandria, Jalisco. The film is very blurry and hard to read. My Spanish is also a little rusty but I was able to make out that my great-grandmother Cenorina Vasquez, daughter of Jose Eduviguez Vasquez and (it looks like) Demetina Vazquez, was from San Sabastian. I have not been able to find anything further. No baptism files, no marriage records from her parents. I don't even know where San Sebastian is. I had read an email from this group that San Sabastian was in someone's research. i can't find that email but does that someone happen to recognize these names or know where it is? Any information that anyone has would be greatly appreciated!
Cristobal,
Here is what I have been able to piece together. If you would like this
report in PDF or RTF format let me know, and I can send you a copy.
Jonathan
First Generation
1. Cristobal VILLALOBOS LOMELIN was born.
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I see you as a subscribed member now. can you send your below message to the research@nuestrosranchos.org list to see if it goes through? email me as soon as you send it and I'll look to make sure it went through. thanks
Jose Aguayo, Welcome to the Group. Sorry, I don't have any information on the Aguayo surname. But your post reminded me of the myth of the three brothers. I read this article once that spoke in detail of the myth. I did a quick internet search and this was the best article I found:
Cristobal,
I found a marriage record in Teocaltiche for FERNDO. DE VILLALOBOS, Spouse: MARIA MARCIANA LOZANO, 23 OCT 1769, on film 0639757, batch M602489(1768 - 1782) in the IGI. When I found the baptism records you have listed below the mother was identified as "Maria Lozano." I don't know if she is Nicolasa or Marciana. I suggest you check the record in the Teocaltiche film.
Guenter and others:
I do not know when the practice began of assigning Spanish names to the
indigenous populations in Mexico, but I wouldn't doubt if it happened from
the beginning of the missionary times, because that was their purpose, to
Hi everyone,
I'm new to the forum but but have been researching my family history for a while. I am currently a bit lost and hoping for some feedback. I'm looking for the Romo family from Rincon de Romos, Ags. in the late 1880s or early 1900s.
Hello my name is Cristobal
I am new in the system, I am have 5 years making research about the last
names Villalobos, Quesada, Lomelín and Ortiz.
I would like to know if somebody now about the Villalobos in Encarnación de
I have hit the proverbial brick wall on researching the surname Aguayo from the present back to the late 1700s in Aguascalientes. So I decided to try to locate the first Aguayos who came to the New World during the Conquest and work forward from them to see if their was a connection with my research working back. In September 2007, my wife and I visited Cantabria, Spain where legend has the Aguayo surname beginning. Allegedly there were three Goth brothers who participated in the reconquest of Spain during the 12th and 13th centuries. The family gave their name to the region of Aguayo and to three villages -- Santa Olallya de Aguayo, Santa Maria de Aguayo, and San Miguel de Aguayo. We visited all three villages, asked questions about the history of the region, and about the surname. The present villagers knew little about the surname, but we met Manuel Garcia Alonso, who has a home in San Miguel de Aguayo and is a professor at a university in Santander. Alonso has written Aguayo y los Aguayos, an ethnographic and historical study of the region. According to Alonso and other sources, the Aguayos were gone from the region by the 15th century. They continued fighting in the reconquest around Cordoba, Saenz, and Ejica. For their service to the various kings, they received titles and a coat of arms. This coat of arms is still visible on a Casa Fuerte in San Miguel de Aguayo where they apparently retained some ties to the area.
Good Labor Day to all!
I wanted to reach out to the experts in the group for some help with the Santiago family from Villanueva, Zac. I was so excited to break one more generation last night on the Santiago branch. Up to now, I was stuck in the Juchipila/Moyahua area. The couple is named Felipe de Santiago and Maria de la Candelaria Albares. They were parents to Maria Catarina de Santiago. Any insight in working the Villanueva area? What other towns can I focus on through Family Search? The lists of Santiago in the area go on and on so any insight would be greatly appreciated. Thanks!!
There's a general mis-perception that if you were Español you would have to be white or fair skinned and blonde and blue eyed.
I watch many, many movies that are made throughout latin America and Spain and I have to tell you, based on the movies that I see from Spain, most people in Spain are still mostly brown haired and brown eyed, some blue eyes and some blonde but mostly brown. I also watch many Italian films and have many Italian friends and most are brown eyed and brown haired with a few blonde and blue eyed people, depending on how and with whom they have inter-married.
Great discussion!
What got me started with family history research, was the fact that people
always tell me that I don't look Mexican, but always ask me if I am Native
American (Indian), because of my high cheekbones, my profile, dark skin and
Sunday, August 31, 2008
Dear Corrine--
I loved your email. It reminded me of the discussions I have had about certain members of the family--things like if you are left-handed you are probably with this family, or if you are long and lean in the face, probably from that family, if you have a long torso but short legs, you are from yet another family. Then the eyes are interesting because some have blue or green or brown and look like their so and so cousins.
One of the goals in doing genealogy for me is to instill pride and responsibility in the coming years in generations yet to come. As my grandmother told me, "you don't know who you are if you don't know where you come from." She said this at a family reunion where the new generations no longer speak Spanish and had brought many other nationalities into our lines. She cried as she said there would not be a Mexican in the family in 50 years. My research honors her and makes sure we know our roots and sometimes humble and sometimes proud beginnings. My goal is never to loose any part of my heritage even though we sometimes seem to focus on the Spanish lines.
Saturday, August 30, 2008
Dear Researchers--
One of my favorite books is called History of Mexico by Inigo Fernandez, translated by David Castledine. The first edition was published in 2002 and my fifth reprint was done in 2006. In Chapter 2, The Conquest of Mexico and the Viceroyalty (1519-1808), pg 41-42, it states the following:
Hola Every one ,Is Juan de Padilla (married to Petrona de Siordia ) son of one of the Padilla Davilas? I believe some one had mentioned it or I read it some where ,can't remember.
Ronnie
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To All Members,
Please change your address lists to reflect my new e-mail address, rayjaur@comcast.net.
Raymond Jauregui
primos out there. I figure that with these records, life might be easier on
those that have contacted me about my search. Here is pretty much every
detail up to my grandmother's generation(which is currently mixed living and
A month ago I found and requested the IGI record for the marriage of Juan de Padilla Sorro to Petrona de Siordia (misspelled Giordia in the IGI record), hoping to find additional information on this couple. The marriage took place in El Sagrario, Aguascalientes on 14 February 1616 (Batch M604761 Source Call 0299421). After an anxious wait today I received the reply that this record could not be found. I do not have access to that film at the local center to search it myself. Has anyone been able to locate this record? I would certainly appreciate a copy of the image or a transcript of the entire text.
So how would we go about finding a direct descendant of Baltasar Temiño
de Bañuelos??? Are there trees out there for this line already? I'd love
to compare the YDNA from the groups Banuelos SIG with the YDNA of a
Greetings from Lockhart, Tx: I need help with backtracking my Bañuelos ancestors. Marcelo Gonzales Bañuelos b 7 Jan 1859 in Juanchorrey Zac, son of Juan Jose Jesus Gonzales and Maria de Jesus Bañuelos b abt 1837, daughter of Anacelso (Aka Cleto) Bañuelos and Clemencia Carlos.