I think I made another royal connection for you Ornelas, Vásquez de BAca (The New Mexico Lineage). After long research (Not really just abt 3 hours.) An ancestor of the Vasquez de BAca is Leonor de Orozco and an ancestor of Ornelas is Petronila de Orozco are sister as we know.
Is anyone familiar with these surnames?
DE LA PEDROSA
DíAZ-CASTELLANO
ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ
LOMELíN
i HAVE 3 ÁLVAREZ DE LA CRUZ AND ABOUT 4 DE LA CRUZ
MY RESEARCH IS LEADING ME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT
Just wanted to let everyone know that this website is REALLY FUN and helpful. They have a wealth of information. You can even view the actual images and PRINT at no charge! From the passport of our Lope Ruiz de Esparza to my Juan Perez del Camino who was made to the office of the Real Audencia de Guadalajara on June 6, 1605 in Guadalajara. Im sure ill find much more. Im going to search on the founding families of Aguascalientes a bit more. Let me know if you have any other questions.
Even though I absolutely love Helyn's website:
I couldn't find the one place I've been searching for: Rancho del Salto de Los Romeros. I think this Rancho is no longer in existence and I can't seem to find historical maps that have it either. I guess it isn't critical that I find it other than I just would. The below scans from the 1855 census has it 4 Leguas from Santa Maria and sandwiched between Rancho de las Precitas (3 Leguas) and Rancho de los Sauces. I can find El Sauz which is probably the Los Sauces but I can't find my Rancho del Salto de Los Romeros. I found some information about Leguas below but don't know what else to do. Anyone have any thoughts about finding a historical town about 14 miles from Santa Maria de Los Angeles in Jalisco?
I'm doing a bit of fishing and was wondering if someone has this film
if you would mind doing a look up for me?
joseph
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Joseph Puentes
http://h2opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)
Hello everyone my name is Lona Rivera, I am new to Nuestros Ranchos, but not to genealogy.
I am beginning research on my mother's Perez line. I know that my great grandfather was Magdaleno Perez born about 1886 at Hacienda de Cedros, Zacatecas.
Hello Ronnie and Irene,
My husband's maternal great-grandmother Maria Aniseta Losano Aguirre bapt 20 April 1829 Nochistlan was married to a Domingo Lomelin on 27 Nov 1857 (IGI M606263 Nochistlan). This couple were the parents of Agustin Aguirre Lomeli (IGI J606246 Nochistlan).
I am Irene (Nena) Garcia-Sandoval and I want to take this opportunity to introduce myself to what appears to be quite a lively and active geneological group with names that belong to me too!
I was born and raised in Texas, and did some geneology research about 10 years ago, but I have forgotten what little I learned and will have to go through the learning process again. I'm really happy to see how much more information there is out there now and am excited about getting back to it.
In my researching through baptism records, in those from the early eighteen
hundreds, 1807-1818, which I have thus far found, I have come across an
abbreviated term, possibly Latin and always underlined. I am unable to
I wanted to pass on publicly a major message of thanks to my good
friend, Kitty Cortez. Her work and her husband, Rich's work for the
group have been fabulous. For many many months Kitty has single handedly
My name is Joshua Goodson. I do not have much information except what I have learned from my mother. My Grandfather was born in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico. His name was Francisco Romo Villanueva. He was born about 1923 and died in 1997 in California, USA. I am not sure when he moved to the United States. I was told he had a couple of sisters and maybe two brothers from Aguascalientes. They may still be living so cannot post their names. I have pictures that were sent from his family in Aguas (all were dated in the 1950's and were stamped with by a portrait studio in Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico. I really want to know more about him and my ancestors. He also had nephews and other family there. If anyone know anything at all, please let me know. I am new to this! Thank you....
Hi,
I'm looking for a volunteer to send out 15 day notices to new applicants
that haven't responded after they have initially applied and then send
out a second and final notice to applicants that haven't responded after
I ordered up the microfilm for Huejucar, Jalisco Catholic Church marriages for 1885-1908. I hoped that it would reveal a lot of info on our ancestors because there should be about 20+ ancestors in the records.
Hello Jan and Alicia ,ok which school of thought is correct ? Is Benavides Jewish or Arabic Surname. I don't know why I tend to go with the Arabic thought due to the way it spells out.Prima Alicia in the conference did Maria Benavides line have any thing to do with the Benavides Line that settled in orthern Mexico and Texas if so how ? Tu primo Ronnie pariente acasi todos de Los Altos> Date: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 11:22:40 -0700> From: janjaeckle@yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alteño Surnames> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> > My language instructor said that Benavides was originally Jewish, from Ben-David; then the Spanish 'ez' appeared when the name carrier came to Spain during the period of moorish control of Spain before Jews were ordered out of Spain in 1492. > > Alicia Carrillo wrote:> ----- Original Message ----> From: Ronald Reynoso > To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 9:32:04 AM> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Alteño Surnames> Hola Primo ,I have alot of Lomellini,Lomelin and Lomeli and they all are the same . Carlos Lomellini was from Genoa,Italy and married Maria Benavides en Nochistlan,en 1609.> > I know this is not about Lomelin but about Benavides. One of the presenters at the Conference in Saltillo was Benavides......he spoke in great detail about his family's history in Northern Mexico, he proceeded to tell us that this surname's origins are Arabic from Medieval times, see below, so not only does this marriage have Italian origins but Arabic/Spanish origins.> > Don't you just love it........we are all mutts!!> > Last NameBenavidesSpanish: patronymic from the common medieval personal name Ben> Avid, of Arabic origin, from ibn ?Abd ‘son of the servant(of God)’ see Benavidez.> > > > > > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> > > > ---------------------------------> Special deal for Yahoo! users & friends - No Cost. Get a month of Blockbuster Total Access now> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
Thank you, I am saving all the info on Ornelas and Vaca surnames. I am not far advanced so it will be sometime before I get there.
-Esther Jordan
I think I made another royal connection for you Ornelas, Vásquez de BAca (The
JUST OUT OF CURIOSITY I HAVE NOTICED MANY SURNAMES GO BACK TO NOBILITY ONCE YOU TRACE IT; IF YOU'RE LUCKY! I KNOW THERE ARE 4 TYPES OF SURNAMES OR 5 I THINK.
-COMPUESTO DE PATERNAL Y MATERNAL
*LIKE MOST COMMON PEOPLE ONE SURNAME FROM MOM AND DAD
Patricia, I noticed that you are from San Diego and so am I. I would like to talk to you about Portezuelo (in La Barca)Jalisco. Will you call me at 619-934-8704, or e-mail me at esther@enhanced.org ? Thank you.
Hola Jorge Luis.? Acabo de preguntarle a mi mama y dice que la tia de mi papa, Alejandra Ibarra, vivia en La Alaja y murio como unos 8 anos.? Los hijos de ella eran Charros.??No nos damos cuenta de mas datos. Sera la misma persona que tu tatarabuela???
As Tomas mentioned--Often people are very poor and can not offer a
donation. This is when they annotated "de limosna."
The Church does NOT charge for "services" or better said charge for
receiving Sacraments. Since the Catholic Church does not make people
Me llamo Marisela Quezada y vivo en Fresno, California.? My espanol es un poco limitado asi es que me discuplan por favor.? Estoy empezando my genealogia y quisiera saber si alguno de ustedes me pudieran ayudar.? Creo que un miembro nombrado "Jose Ibarra" iva a preguntarle a su familia si conocia los nombres de mis abuelos y bisabuelos pero perdi su direccion.? Mis ancestros son los siguientes (creo que todos vivian cercas de San Gaspar de los Reyes y Jalostotitlan, Jalisco):
Juan Jose, dispensa que no lei tu mensaje antes de mandar el mio.? Muchas gracias por preguntarle a tu familia.? Si me pudieras conseguir los numeros de telefono de esos senores seria muy agradecida.?
Ricardo, que gusto, nuevamente eres la luz en el oscurantismo de mi enigma familiar, muchas gracias. De verdad los Valdivia son morenos? conservo una foto de la boda de mis abuelos y mi abuela al igual que sus hermanas eran muy blancas y con ojos azules o verdes, creo que ya te había mandado esa foto te la vuelvo a mandar. La novia es mi abuela Agustina Valdivia Sánchez, a su lado sentada en el piso su hermana Conrrada, a su lado en la fila de atrás, enseguida del niño son Guadalupe y Rita, otras hermanas de mi abuela, como puedes ver son blancas y 2 son rubias, las tres hijas de mi abuela (mi madre y sus dos hermanas) son también blancas y mis dos tías son pelirojas (naturales). Creo que eso lo podremos arreglar con pruebas de ADN, existe gente que identifica el porcentaje de sangre de cada grupo étnico y continente en el ADN de un individuo, si muchos descendientes de los Valdivia nos haríamos esa prueba podríamos identificar las características comunes de la familia y determinar a que grupo pertenecen. Por cierto, tu sabes como donde y como hacerse éstos exámenes? Te pido de favor que en cuanto tu tiempo te lo permita imprimas la foto y se la muestres a los primos de mi abuela para ver si se acuerdan de ella y sus hermanas. No sé nada de las hermanas de mi abuela. Hasta pronto. Rodolfo Sinaí Gómez.> From: rickrod.com@gmail.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Wed, 27 Feb 2008 12:22:39 -0600> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Sanchez y Valdivia de San Miguel el Alto> > Hola primo,> Gusto en volver a saber de ti. Ahí te va:> > Cirila Sánchez Sánchez, hija de Gregorio Sanchez y Lucia Sanchez (casados el> 1 de Febrero de 1884 en San Miguel el Alto [rollo #279454]), hasta ahí tengo> por el momento hasta que vaya a San Miguel o a algún centro familiar de LDS> a buscar el acta de matrimonio.> > La gran mayoría de los Valdivia que yo conozco de San Miguel el Alto y de> aquí de Valle de Guadalupe son morenos, lo cual me hace creer que procedemos> por este lado en su mayoría de personas nativas de la región. Aunque te diré> que los de esta rama llevamos el apellido Valdivia proveniente del> matrimonio entre Sebastián Valdivia e Isabel Martin, aproximadamente por el> año de 1700 en Jalostotitlán. No sé si esta pareja haya sido la primera con> este apellido, quizás alguien del grupo tiene más información acerca de este> matrimonio. Si mis suposiciones son correctas, te vas a dar cuenta que la> línea paterna de esta rama Valdivia de San Miguel el Alto no será la misma> que la de otras ramas Valdivia de la región o de México. > > Cuando encuentres mas información acerca de tu rama Valdivia me avisas para> poder compararla con la que yo tengo y ver si obtenemos los mismos datos> genealógicos. Es una buena manera de saber si no me he equivocado en mi> investigación.> > Bueno primo, que estés bien y estamos en contacto.> > Saludos,> > Ricardo Rodríguez> Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco> > > -----Mensaje original-----> De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Rodolfo> Sinai Gomez> Enviado el: Miércoles 27 de Febrero de 2008 9:16 AM> Para: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Sanchez y Valdivia de San Miguel el Alto y> Guadalupe Jalisco> > > Estimados todos. Hace unos meses Ricardo Rodríguez me hizo el inmenso favor> de proporcionarme el nombre de mis tatarabuelos por parte de la familia> Valdivia y Sánchez, por lo cual estoy muy agradecido. La curiosidad> insaciable del historiador me lleva a pedirles su ayuda para poder conocer> la historia de esas familias y de ser posible el nombre de mis antepasados. > > Alguien tiene información de quienes fueron los primeros Valdivia en San> Miguel el Alto y cual era su procedencia? Alguno de ustedes puede decirme> quienes eran los padres de Cirila Sánchez Sánchez que casó con Juan Valdivia> Moreno? ellos son mis bisabuelos, padres de Agustina Valdivia Sánchez que> nació en San Miguel el Alto en febrero 20 de 1931.> > Muchas gracias.> > Saludos a todos.> > Rodolfo Sinaí Gómez.> _________________________________________________________________> ¡Súper premios en nanometrajes subiendo tu video!> http://cine.prodigymsn.com/nanometraje> -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List> > To post, send email to:> research(at)nuestrosranchos.org> > To change your subscription, log on to:> http://www.nuestrosranchos.org
Hola amigos, qu¡en me puede decir si en el municipio de Jalostotitlán, Jalisco existe algún archivo histórico en el que pueda hacer consultas de investigación. Me gustaría obtener algunos testamentos o en su caso juicios de intestamentarios.
Greetings all. I am a new member and looking forward to finding more information on my paternal grandfather. Saludos al Hosto.