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10/08/11 - 08:11

*Fuente: *
http://www.clarin.com/sociedad/descomunal-archivo-Vaticano-disponible-I…
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*El Vaticano inició la digitalización de los más de 80 mil manuscritos y 40
millones de páginas documentales que lo componen. Y que reflejan la vida de
la Iglesia y el acontener del mundo de los últimos 20 siglos. El proceso
finalizará en una década. Más información en Valores
Religiosos
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Fuente:

Buena parte de los "secretos" del mundo de los últimos 2.000 años contenidos
en el fascinante Archivo Secreto del Vaticano se encaminan a estar al
alcance de todos. A partir de la decisión de la Santa Sede de facilitar su
consulta, el avance tecnológico lo hará posible. Merced a un arduo proceso
de digitalización que se puso en marcha en el último año y que finalizará en
una década, será posible acceder a través de Internet (www.vatican.va) a los
80 mil manuscritos y 40 millones de páginas documentales que los palacios
vaticanos atesoran en 85 kilómetros de anaqueles. En alta definición se
podrá disfrutar viendo joyas como el Codex Vaticanus – los pergaminos con la
transcripción más antigua de la Biblia completa, que data del siglo IV-; el
pedido de los Lores de Inglaterra para que se anule el primer matrimonio de
Enrique VIII, cuyo rechazo derivó en el cisma anglicano, y un extracto del
célebre proceso a Galileo Galilei. Pero también será una fascinante
posibilidad -escudriñando en los documentos sobre el quehacer de la Iglesia
y el devenir de los pueblos- de conocer y comprender mejor la historia.

Amalia,

I think you said you uploaded something?

Can you give me the link to it?

Thanks,

Emilie

Ok I just uploaded them to my photobucket page..

first one is the interpretation from the book Origins of New Mexico Families

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c302/1traviesa/mestazvialpando_119227…

2nd one is the interpretation from the Diligencias Matrimonias

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c302/1traviesa/DMpageVillalpando.jpg

And lastly is the Juan de Villalpando marriage which the first page is missing...

http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c302/1traviesa/Juanmarriagep2.jpg
http://i30.photobucket.com/albums/c302/1traviesa/Juanmarriagep3.jpg

Thank you all for helping out..hopefully the mystery can be solved!!

Amalia Hernandez Arias

New records posted today:

Queretaro, Veracruz, and Oaxaca.

Por el presente se les comunica que

*EL COLEGIO DE DEMOGRAFÍA DE LA NUEVA VIZCAYA*
y el
*INSTITUTO MUNICIPAL DE CULTURA DEL AYUNTAMIENTO DE GÓMEZ PALACIO, DURANGO*

impartiremos un

*CURSO BÁSICO DE GENEALOGÍA E HISTORIA FAMILIAR*
*
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*vía internet*

Fecha de inicio: 1 de septiembre (por confirmar) Será impartido bajo la
plataforma Moodle.

Les comunico la información completa para que estén enterados.

*Idioma*: Español

*Requisitos:*

- Habilidades básicas en el manejo de computadora (instalación de
programas, y manipulación de archivos)
- Conocimientos de navegación en Internet (paginas web, foros y chat)
- Conocimientos de procesadores de textos (Word)
- Cuenta de correo electrónico.
- Cubrir el costo de recuperación $60.00 pesos mexicanos o su equivalente
en dólares (Si se toma desde el extranjero se deberá cubrir el costo de
envío del Diploma, el cual es mínimo)

*PUBLICO:*

El curso está dirigido a personas que estén interesadas en comenzar una
investigación de su genealogía e historia familiar y *no* tengan
conocimientos previos en el campo.

*OBJETIVOS:*

1. Construir un árbol genealógico de forma gráfica que incluya 7
generaciones, para colgar en la pared.
2. Adquirir las habilidades que permitan desarrollar eficazmente una
investigación de genealogía, así como aprender a utilizar las herramientas
en web y el software necesario para capturar, procesar, analizar, publicar y
compartir la información recabada durante la investigación.
3. Comprender el ambiente sociocultural en que vivieron los pobladores de
la Nueva España

*METODOLOGÍA:*

La forma de trabajo es predominantemente práctica y el avance en la
investigación depende totalmente del tiempo que se le dedique a la misma.
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Se proporcionará al participante el material literario necesario vía web,
participación en foros, chat en linea. Habrá intercambio de archivos entre
instructor y alumno. Todo bajo la plataforma Moodle. El curso
está dividido en temas, cada tema contendrá material de lectura, un foro, un
chat, un cuestionario, un glosario de términos, y algunas tareas.

El Sistema operativo recomendado es Windows XP, Windows Vista o
linux, también funciona con otros.

Hola,

Acabo de encontrar la vida de este Santo Martir Alteño Sn Toribio Romo
González.....lo conocen??

http://www.santotoribioromo.com/biografia.htm

Ray Jauregui, Bill Figueroa and John Gonzales,

Thanks to each of you for your replies and your interest in Los Jauregui's from the regions of Los Altos.
We may never know the truth about the Jauregui's and yes it's probably pretty colorful lore about some Don Jauregui, which one? we'll probably never know but to hear these ladies talk you would think they knew firsthand. All I did was listen, I don't have much on the Jauregui's and It will be a long time before I can resume my research while working 45 hours a week plus commute time. I still enjoy reading everyone's postings, especially all the newcomers, welcome all you newbies to Nuestros Ranchos.

Where else can we go and become so familiar with our ancestry, our people, our culture, learn of our traditions and yes even to hear the lore and gossip about some of it's Don Juanes, poor men, they are probably turning in their grave or who knows, maybe they are just grateful that we think of them.

To all you newcomers, my advice to you is that when you first come on board and make your introductions that you provide as much information and detail as possible. When you solicit help, don't just state that you need help finding such and such a name but include some detailed information such as dates of birth if it's for a deceased ancestor, place of birth of death or of marriage and what town, city, rancho or municipio. Provide as much detail as possible. The more detail you provide, the more assistance you will receive.

Buena suerte a todos en su busqueda and three cheers for the Don Juanes (or not) who have left their mark or at least left cause for juicy rumors.

Alicia Carrillo
San Jose, Calif

----- Original Message ----
From: "rayjaur@earthlink.net"
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 12:56:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jauregui from Nochistlan, Zacatecas

Pam /Alicia,

George,
Thanks for your valuable info. One question:
where would one look for consular documents?
Are they available on Family Search?
Thanks - Nancy

I wanted to introduce myself to everyone. My name is Marylouise Fraijo Ambriz. I just started researching my maternal grandmother's side of the family. This has been quite tasking since my greatgrandmother rarely spoke of her family. What I have found out is my maternal grandmother, Guadalupe Diaz, was born in Bahia de Santa Barbara, AguasCalientes on 12 Feb of 1912. She was the last child of Maria Luisa (my namesake) Gonzalez and Ignacio De Luna. Ignacio was killed in the Revolution before my grandma was born. Maria Luisa married Liborio Diaz before arriving to America in 1913. All I know about Liborio is that he was also from AguasCalientes.
 
Maria Luisa was also born in AguasCalientes on 23 June 1886 to Norberta Macias and Pablo Gonzalez. Norberta and Pablo were married at El Sagrario, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico on 8 July 1885.
 
My GGgrandmother, Norberta Macias, was born June of 1864 in Palo-Alto, AguasCalientes to Guadalupe Macias and Tomasa Esparza. They were married on 22 September 1844 in Inmaculada Concepción, Ciénega De Mata, Jalisco, Mexico.They also had seven other children.
 
Maria Pauline Macias1845 Palo Alto, AguasCalientes
Lucia Macias 1846 Palo Alto, AguasCalientes
Jose Lucas Macias 1847 Palo Altos, AguasCalientes
Vidal Macias 1851
Eufemia Macias 1853
Plutarco Macias 1856
Sotero Macias 1860
 
From stories by family members, Norberta was married two other times and died in child birth.
 
My GGgrandfather Pablo Gonzalez was born 7 June 1857 in AguasCalientes to Sostenes Gonzalez and Mariana Gutierrez. They were married at El Sagrario, AguasCalientes, AguasCalientes, Mex on 30 October 1849.
 
Pablo's father, Sostenes was born in a rancho de Santa Anna, Jalostotitlan, Mex about 1819 to Candelario Gonzalez  and Juane del Socorro Gonzalez. Pablo's mother, Mariana was born about 1834 in del rancho del ojo de Agua. I am cluess as to where that is. Her parents are Ysidoro Gutierrez and Francisca Hermosilla.
 
I am still hoping to find out more about my grandma's father Ignacio De Luna. Are Mexico Military records accesible? I am also hoping to find out about my grandma's step father, Liborio Diaz. Although he raised my grandma and her siblings like his own, his past is a mystery.
 

Is there a problem with the website?

When I click on the "Recent Posts" link, I get a list of posting from 5 years ago.

Amalia---

I found the entry below in the index of Family Search. It does not give the source for the information on Juan VillaElPando/Villalpando, and the birthplace is in contradiction to the birthplace mentioned for Juan in Ambrosio's marriage document. Also, in Ambrosio's marriage document, Juan's wife is listed as Ana Maria Truxillo, not Ana Maria Romero.

Where did you get the copies of these documents? They are not online at Family Search.

Can you send us the link to the image where it says that Juan was "originario" of Villa de Leon?

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

Juan (De) VillaElPando Compact Disc #127 Pin #1551331
Pedigree

Sex:
M

Event(s)

Birth:

Villa de Leon

Death:
1718

Death:
bef 1718

Parents

Father:
Juan (De) VillaElPando Disc #127 Pin #1549528

Mother:
Ursula De Olaes Disc #127 Pin #1549529

Marriage(s)

Spouse:
Ana Maria Romero Disc #127 Pin #1554516

Marriage:
2 Jun 1694

Santa Fe, New Mexico

Notes and Sources

Notes:
None

Sources:
None

Does anyone know if Jerez was considered a Villa? I have a document from 1718 that states my ancestor was a native of La Villa de Jerez, however his father it states is a native of La Villa de Conil (which is questionable depending on who is interpreting the acta they seem to think it states Leon). Most of the people realated to my line think that it is the Jerez in Cadiz Spain. My Vialpando line originated New Mexico with the Vargas expedition, however the records are conflicting if it is Jerez, Nueva Espana or Jerez de la Frontera Spain also if its the Villa de Leon, Zacatecas or Villa de Conil, Spain. Anyone know where I might start to look for records late 1600's early 1700's for Jerez in Mexico.
Thank you...

Do you have any information on Olivar .....Juan de Dios Olivar or Jose Juan Olivar or Juan Jose Olivar. One was the son another was the father. ALso inflormation on any of those names M. Cresencia Padilla, Her mother mother was Alvarez. Maybe I can make a little sense of my family tree.
Gracias,
Ruth Olivar Millan

Hola a todos:

¿Alguien de ustedes sabe algo acerca de los orígenes de las familias Miranda y Llamas en Zacatecas? Mis ancestros fueron Juan de Miranda casado con Isabel de Llamas, posiblemente en Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, ellos tuvieron entre otros hijos a mi antepasado Onofre de Miranda Llamas, casado con Isabel de Acosta y Uribe el 12 de Mayo de 1732 en Ameca, Jalisco, por lo que esa parte del linaje pasó a Jalisco.

Si alguien tiene un dato acerca de ellos se los agradecería.

Saludos
Enrique Salvador Agraz

Hi Alicia,

Thank you very much for the information. I'll take a look to that
area. I have been trying to find the birth certificate of Ruben Eudave
Lopez to see who were his parents but I haven't find it. I guess I
would need to go to Tabasco, Zacatecas where he was born. I don't know
if it is possible to ask for those documents from distance.

Most certainly the Eudave family from Zacatecas comes from the area
you mentioned.

Best,

Gabriela

On Aug 10, 2011, at 12:08 AM, research-
request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:

Hello-

Does anyone have a list of the first fammilies which settled in Lagos de Moren with the help of Hernán Gallegos? I have heard sources say 63 or 73 families and wanted to know if anyone had a definite list or the resource of the actual grant for the villa.

I have a common ancestor as many of us here do of Polonia Torres who was allegedly bor n abt. 1569 in Lagos de Moreno and the town was founded in 1563 so it would stand to reason that she it most likely a child of the original families.

Thanks,

Miri12

Hello, I became recently a member. I'm starting a research about the
ascendence of my great-grandfather Ruben Eudave Lopez, born in Sta.
Maria Mecatabasco, Villa del Refugio Zacatecas about 1891.

Ruben Eudave Lopez married Carolina Prieto Gutierrez (b. 1900,
Durango). They lived in Juarez Chihuahua and had four children:

Guillermina Eduave Prieto
Guillermo Eudave Prieto
Ruben Eudave Prieto
Carolina Eudave Prieto (my grandmother)

Any information would be appreciated,

Gabriela Perez Rendon
__

Hola, soy nueva en el grupo. Estoy en busqueda de la ascendencia de mi
tatarabuelo Ruben Eudave López, nacido en Sta. María Mecatabasco,
Villa del Refugio, Zacatecas alrededor de 1891.

Ruben Eudave López se caso con Carolina Prieto Gutierrez (b. 1900,
Durang). Ellos vivieron en Juarez, Chihuahua y tuvieron cuatro hijos:

Guillermina Eduave Prieto
Guillermo Eudave Prieto
Ruben Eudave Prieto
Carolina Eudave Prieto (mi abuela materna)

Les agradecería cualquier información disponible,

Gabriela Perez Rendon

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/19688

The 32nd Annual Texas Hispanic Genealogical and Historical Conference,
sponsored by Los Bexareños Genealogical and Historical Society, will be held
from September 29th through October 2, 2011, in beautiful and historic San
Antonio, Bexar County, Texas. Hope that some of you can attend. Here is a
link to the conference website with information on registration, etc. Early
registration deadline is August 31st.
http://web.me.com/lousyl/LBGHS_Conference/Bienvenidos.html

What is the date of this record? All I can make out is "en dicho mes y a~no". My husband has some Vidaurre somewhere in his lines.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> Date: Sun, 7 Aug 2011 22:13:22 -0400
> From: makas@nc.rr.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Vidaurre/Petra Medina
>
>
> just FYI:
>
> https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…
>
> Mexico, Catholic Church Records
> Zacatecas
> Zacatecas
> Sagrario
> Información Matrimonial 1696-1759
> Image 514 of 651
>
> joseph
>
> ======================
>
> Joseph Puentes
> NoMeat@h2opodcast.com
> http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html (Vegan Environmental Solutions Podcast)
> http://h2opodcast.com (Environmental Podcast)
> http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com (Blog for above)
> http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
> http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
> http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
> Genealogy)

Thank you all for your help and insights concerning the marriage record for Jose de la Torre and Maria Elena Romero. I agree the record must be in error regarding Dionicio Martin and Paula Saldana. Jose's parents are Antonio de la Torre and Carmen Padilla. No where else in either my Romero family nor my de la Torre family are Dionicio Martin and Paula Saldana mentioned. All the other records say his parents are Antonio de la Torre and Carmen Padilla or Maria del Carmen Padilla. I have yet to find Jose's birth record in Tepatitlan. I have no clue if he came from another city.

Please forgive my late response for all your help. Because I research alone and do not speak Spanish, my research is slow, so it took me a while to check out all the suggestions. Thank you again for all your help and suggestions.

Linda Romero

On Aug 5, 2011, at 5:08 PM, research-request@lists.nuestrosranchos.org wrote:

> Date: Wed, 3 Aug 2011 17:35:08 -0500
> From: Linda
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] I need help with confusing marriage
> ??? record/de la??? Torre-Romero
> Message-ID: <5D6C4EEB-793B-46EB-9865-B52EF8646EB9@earthlink.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252
>
> I am thoroughly confused by the marriage record of my ggrandfather Jose de la Torre to my ggrandmother Maria Elena Romero.? They were married Feb. 4, 1880 in San Francisco de Asis, Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco.? The record can be found in the 1876-1881 Matrimonios, image 329, bottom right side in FamilySearch.org.? It states that Jose de la Torre is the widower of Feliciana Romero.? In his marriage record to Feliciana Romero, his parents are recorded as Antonio de la Torre and Carmen Padilla.? In his marriage record to Elena Romero, his parents are recorded as Dionicio Martin and Paula Saldana.? Who are Dionicio Martin and Paula Saldana?? What don?t I understand?? Will someone who can read Spanish please explain what I am missing?
> Thank you for your help.
>
> Linda Romero
> romero89@earthlink.net
>
> ?

Linda
romero89@earthlink.net

Is there anybody that has relatives from this area in this research group. My line is a marriage between Mariano Esparza and Josefa Sanchez in August of 1875. If anybody has any lines related to this region please post a message.

Me he puesto a pensar si mis descendientes sabrán que existí.

Me di cuenta de que todo este tiempo he estado rescatando del olvido a
antepasados que murieron hace muchos años, pero que no he hecho nada
por asegurar mi memoria. Fue así como decidir implementar el uso de un
"Diario Personal" en donde yo ponga en manifiesto los sucesos
sobresalientes o las cosas que actualmente me interesan, y que además
utilizo como Bitacora de Investigaciones: anoto con quien me
entrevisto, el fruto de las entrevistas que realizo, mi viajes de
investigación a los archivos de distintos tipos y también manifiesto
lo que quiero para mi descendencia.

Todo esto con la intención de que las generaciones futuras hagan uso
adecuado de mis investigaciones y tengan una imagen de mi que les
permita saber mis intereses, gustos y aficiones, y aun mas mi estilo
de vida.

Tengo registrando todo poco mas de un año, lo escribo en un libro
especial para tal caso parecido al que se usaban en las parroquias
para asentar las actas o partidas y me ha servido mucho.

Si ustedes no usan un diario personal les recomiendo muy ampliamente
que lo hagan, pues tiene beneficios importantes futuros a largo y
corto plazo. El leerlo proporciona a menudo recuerdos gratos. Y así
tal vez no seamos olvidados.

Saludos a todos y espero sus comentarios.

Israel Valles
Durango, Mexico

--
D.I.V.L.

Hi all:

I was hoping someone could take a look at the informacion matrimonial for my great grandfather's marriage to his first wife. Specifically, there's one word that I can't make out under the "Consentimento" part. I'm hoping someone on this listserve has come across similar language.

The line says: "En el curato de Tlaltenango a los cinco dias del mes de Febrero de mil noveicientos tres ante mi el Presbitero Don Jose de Jesus Robles, Cura de esta parroquia comparecieron Pedro Pinedo y Maria Natividad Godoy madre de la _______________ y ambos dijeron que sus expresados hijos..."

I hope to hear from someone soon...

Chris Pineda

Has the time and date for the local So.Cal.
Nuestros Ranchos meeting been posted yet?
I have searched many previous postings looking for
this info and haven't found it.Maybe I missed it.

Saludos

Alguien tendra informacion de Andres de Alba y Bocanegra y Juana Gonzalez de Hermosillo padres de Antonia de Alba casada con Francisco Gutierrez Coronado el 1 de Junio de 1711 en San felipe Cuquio Jalisco.