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Hola a todos,

Ya he subido algunos de los resultados de ADN de las muestras que se tomaron aquí en Los Altos de Jalisco. El sitio al que los subí es www.losaltosdejalisco.mx/adn para los interesados. Estaré actualizando el sitio en cuanto haya nuevos análisis. Todavía estoy desarrollando el sitio para compartir los resultados, pero ya está abierto a comentarios y discusiones.

Por el momento solo está en Español, pero más adelante lo pienso traducir al Inglés.

Saludos,

Ricardo

Hello everyone,

I’ve uploaded some of the DNA results from the samples taken here in Los Altos de Jalisco. The sites I’ve uploaded them to is www.losaltosdejalisco.mx/adn for everyone who’s interested. I’ll be updating the site as I get new results. I’m still developing the site to share the results, but it’s already open for comments and discussions.

For now the site is only in Spanish, but I’ll be translating it to English in the near future.

Best regards,

Ricardo

Thank you, thank you, thank you to Jaime Alvarado. I had been searching various records for that baptism for some time. How were you able to find it so easily? Very greatful. Thank you also for the input from everyone as I continue the search.Deedra Corona Coronaarechiga

I checking Talpa de Allende baptism records and found most likely the last entry I will find for this family but on the name it will either say Espanol(a) or Yndio de tabla. Does this mean that they were born of Indian descent? Just wondering. If anyone could give me some insight that would be great. Thank you.

Anisabel

I am thoroughly confused by the marriage record of my ggrandfather Jose de la Torre to my ggrandmother Maria Elena Romero. They were married Feb. 4, 1880 in San Francisco de Asis, Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco. The record can be found in the 1876-1881 Matrimonios, image 329, bottom right side in FamilySearch.org. It states that Jose de la Torre is the widower of Feliciana Romero. In his marriage record to Feliciana Romero, his parents are recorded as Antonio de la Torre and Carmen Padilla. In his marriage record to Elena Romero, his parents are recorded as Dionicio Martin and Paula Saldana. Who are Dionicio Martin and Paula Saldana? What don’t I understand? Will someone who can read Spanish please explain what I am missing?
Thank you for your help.

Linda Romero
romero89@earthlink.net

I don't recall reading an after-conference report. I was looking forward to reading about it and maybe seeing pictures, especially since I was unable to attend.
If you attended the conference could you share your experiences and thoughts regarding the conference.
Mil gracias.

Natalie Coleman,
who researches (primarily) : CASTRO, DUENAS, and GARCIA families, who migrated from Hacienda del Astillero, Valpariaso (district), Zacatecas to the United States in 1916.
(some details are in the member's files section, under Castro Coleman: JJCastro Genealogy).

Always be inquisitive when told, "No son los mismos." I heard this when I began researching my three Gutierrez lines in Jalostotitlan & San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco. I tied them all back to the same ancestor. My father told me the same thing when I began researching my Gomez line (same area), and kept running into others. I tied those in too. Now I'm researching my cousin's 2 Romo lines: one from Jalostotitlan (which I share as well) and the other which is suppose to be from San Luis Potosi--what a surprise, I'm researching his line to Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco which is a stone's throw from Jalostotitlan. We'll see...
I have found interesting facts by not giving up or taking others research as fact: documentation, documentation...

Irma Gomez Gtz (N. California)

Hola

Alguien tendra infotmacion de Joseph de Esqueda y Maria de Aguirre, padres de Andres de Esqueda Aguirre, casado con Felisiana Lopez de Lizalde (hija de Juan Lopez de Lizalde y Luisa de Mendoza) el 2 de febrero de 1712 en jalostotitlan.

Gracias

Hi, I'm new to this forum. I am trying to find out more about my ancestors. I know my one of my great grandfather's was Angel Sauceda and I believe he was born in Juchipila, Zacatecas around 1905(he was 25 yrs old in the 1930 census). His wife was Angela Robles Calderon I don't know where she was born,according to the census she must have been born in 1912. They had 3 children together, Antonio Sauceda(my dad's father)born in San Juan De Los Arcos, Jalisco on June 13, 1930, Angel Sauceda and Guadalupe Sauceda also born in San Juan De Los Arcos. I know my great grandfather had another daughter from a previous marriage or relationship Maria Sauceda. My other great grandfather was Carlos Rodriguez Garcia he was born in Ahualulco Del Mercado, Jalisco, his parents were Timoteo Rodriguez and Estefana Garcia. His first wife was Catalina Rubio Vasquez she was born in Teuchitlan, Jalisco, her parents were Andres Vasquez and Clementina Rubio, I believe she died around 1948. They had about 11 children, Ramiro Rodriguez who past away as an infant, Maria De Jesus Rodriguez she past away on July 23, 2005(she was the mother ot the previous Bishop of San Juan De Los Lagos, currently the Bishop of Morelia, Michuacan). There was also Petronila Rodriguez who passed away in October 2002, Miguel Rodriguez died on 1/13/80, Ildelisa Rodriguez, Timoteo Rodriguez died 4/1/04, Esperanza Rodriguez passed away as a child, Feliciana Rodriguez died 2/8/97, Maria Magdalena Rodriguez(my dad's mother) born 6/5/1936 in Castro Urdiales, Jalisco, Ramiro Rodriguez died 2/5/00 and I believe there was also a little boy named Carlos Rodriguez who also died young. My Grandparents Antonio Sauceda & Maria Magdalena Rodriguez had a civil marriage ceremony on 6/13/52 in Tala, Jalisco and a church wedding on 7/12/52. They had 7 Children. Teresa Sauceda died as an infant/child, Raul Sauceda(my father) born 10/2/54 in San Juan De Los Arcos, Carlos Sauceda passed away as an infant, Carlos Sauceda, Angel Sauceda, Maricela Garcia, Sandra Luz Sauceda all from San Juan De Los Arcos.

In my family there are various stories of how ancestors had much land and cattle, and my grandfathers talk about their ancestors' land deeds on property (los papeles de los terrenos), or even sometimes on houses (papeles de la casa). I was wondering if one could acquire copies of these deeds, probably from the government building at the municipal seat?

And also in official birth records, not baptisms, parent's signatures are on them. Is there a way to get a copy of these too? I have been intrigued to know that my great-grandfather Fabián Castro signed his name on my grandfather's original birth record. How long ago were these goverment records required?

Thanks,
Valente.

I read with such amusement the remarks made by fellow researchers on surprises, bewilderment, encouragement coming from their search. Some late, late nights I sit here with my head bobbing close to the keyboard and thinking "I am so tired and I have no clue where to go next" and all of a sudden there on the screen is something I was looking for or a lead as to where to look! That's when I can clearly hear my great-grandfather telling me, "Mijita, busca poquito mas, aqui estamos." I sure wake up quickly! You serious researchers know what I mean. Keep looking! The info is just around the corner!

Nicolas GARSIA y Maria de San Juan VILLALPANDO had another daughter, Rosalia, who was married 17 Jun 1761 to Francisco Xavier GUSMAN y PRADO. See film in Ags Ags Sagrario Matrimonios 1759-1765, Image 137. Francisco Xavier GUZMAN y PRADO, español, hl de Nicolas de GUZMAN y PRADO y Maria de Jesus ALBARES Tostado, difunta; viudo de Ynes Guadalupe VALDES; con Rosalia Emerenciana GARSIA, esp, hl de Nicolas GARSIA y Maria de San Juan VILLALPANDO

Gloria Delgado

I am very disappointed that Lorraine Artinger
was able to post 3 unidentified entries which
are actually advertising and not related to
genealogy.

Is Nuestros Ranchos aware that their FILMS are not available to us members for viewing ???

Jose Carlos de Leon

Can someone please help me read the marriage record for Jph Cayetano Garcia to Anna Cleta Calzada that took place in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco on October 5, 1791 (image 142).

I think it says he was from Santa Barbara (and Santa Maria?), and was the son of Nicolas Garcia and Maria de San Juan. I also think it says he was the widower of someone named Ortiz?

Anna Cleta was from San Juan, and her parents were Matheo Calzada and Maria Barbara de la [?].

Alquien puede leer y decirme que dice este documento del matrimonio de Jph Cayetano Garcia con Anna Cleta Calzada, en Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, 5 Octubre, 1791 (image 142).

Thank you/gracias,

Emilie
Port Orchard, Washington State, EU

I need information about the ascendence of my great-grandfather Ruben Eudave Lopez, born in Sta. Maria Mecatabasco, Villa del Refugio Zacatecas about 1891.

Ruben Eudave Lopez married Carolina Prieto Gutierrez (b. 1900, Durango). They lived in Juarez Chihuahua and had four children:

Guillermina Eduave Prieto
Guillermo Eudave Prieto
Ruben Eudave Prieto
Carolina Eudave Prieto (my grandmother)

Any information would be appreciated,

Gabriela Perez Rendon
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Necesito información sobre la ascendencia de mi tatarabuelo Ruben Eudave López, nacido en Sta. María Mecatabasco, Villa del Refugio, Zacatecas alrededor de 1891.

Ruben Eudave López se caso con Carolina Prieto Gutierrez (b. 1900, Durang). Ellos vivieron en Juarez, Chihuahua y tuvieron cuaro hijos:

Guillermina Eduave Prieto
Guillermo Eudave Prieto
Ruben Eudave Prieto
Carolina Eudave Prieto (mi abuela materna)

Le agradecería cualquier información disponible,

Gabriela Perez Rendon

Hopefully, some of you have heard of Victor Villasenor, the writer who was
nominated for a Pulitzer two times. He wrote Rain of Gold, Burro Genius, and
many other critically acclaimed books. He writes about his family's
experiences in Mexico as well as in the U.S. In his books, he often mentions
that his family came from Los Altos. In fact, one book, Wild Steps of Heaven,
is about the family's experiences there. I was very curious where in Los Altos
they were from and wrote to his website. Surprisingly, his sister wrote back
to me and said they were from Arandas. She mentioned that the people there are
known for being great horsemen and for having really good teeth! Any
Villasenors from Arandas out there?

You have to know the name of the church to find a record. Open the file and then go directly to the Church as they are listed. Some have records going back to the 1500's. For example, I found Juan Casillas y Cabrera record of his legitimacy and as son to Martin Casillas by browsing in the files listed under Santa Catarina y Martir, and Bautimsimos de Hijos Legetimos. According to the index, this record was not available on-line, but it is. If you have a church name and approximate date you can find the records in the Distrito Federal Catholic Church Records, by scrolling back and forth.
Nancy Casillas
Saint Clair, Michigan

Since I'm relatively new at genealogy, I'm willing to take the risk of sounding totally ignorant...Are dispensas the same as informacion matrimonial?  With the group's help, the knowledge I gain will be totally worth it.  Thanks so much.
Alice

Estimados compañeros, estoy en la búsqueda de la ascendencia de José María López Gonzalez c.c. María Silvestre Hernándes Hermosillo probablemente casados entre 1845 y 1853, muy seguramente en Tlaltenango de Sanchez Román. Encontré ya las actas de bautismo de 9 de 13 hijos, y tengo referencias de otros dos. Sin embargo no he encontrado matrimonios de los hijos de Jose María López y de María Silvestre Hernandez, encontrando el matrimonio de alguno de ellos puedo darme una idea de donde y en que fechas buscar el matrimonio de los padres (José María López Gonzalez y María Silvestre Hernandez Hermosillo)

Si alguno de ustedes tiene alguna referencia a esto, aprecio mucho que me proporcione el dato.

A continuación envío los datos:

1. José María López Gonzalez. Hijo de Visente López y de Francísca Gonzalez Días.

José se casó con María Silvestre Hernández Hermosillo, hija de ¿Tapias? Hernández y Eustaquia Hermosillo.

Pongo a disposición del grupo "Nuestros Ranchos", reproducciones de
documentos esenciales para el estudio genealógico de las familias: Romo de
Vivar; De Trillo (Trillo); López de Nava; De Reyes (Reyes); De Tiscareño
(Tiscareño); Villalobos; Lozano; Muñóz de la Barba y Cid Escobar. Se trata
de una compilación de fotocopias de Testamentos registrados entre 1680 y
1780 en Aguascalientes, que amablemente me ha proporcionado el Archivo
Notarial del Estado de Aguascalientes, como parte de sus servicios de
atención a investrigadores. Felipe Reyes Romo

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Estimados compañeros, estoy en la búsqueda de la ascendencia de José María
López Gonzalez c.c. María Silvestre Hernándes Hermosillo probablemente
casados entre 1845 y 1853, muy seguramente en Tlaltenango de Sanchez Román.
Encontré ya las actas de bautismo de 9 de 13 hijos, y tengo referencias de
otros dos. Sin embargo no he encontrado matrimonios de los hijos de Jose
María López y de María Silvestre Hernandez, encontrando el matrimonio de
alguno de ellos puedo darme una idea de donde y en que fechas buscar el
matrimonio de los padres (José María López Gonzalez y María Silvestre
Hernandez Hermosillo)

Si alguno de ustedes tiene alguna referencia a esto, aprecio mucho que me
proporcione el dato.

A continuación envío los datos:

1.* José María López Gonzalez*. Hijo de Visente López y de Francísca
Gonzalez Días.

José se casó con *María Silvestre Hernández Hermosillo*, hija de ¿Tapias?
Hernández y Eustaquia Hermosillo.

Ellos tuvieron los hijos siguientes:

2 F i.* Lola López Hernández*.

3 M ii.* Cristobal López Hernández* nació en 1855.

Cristobal se casó con *Estefana Soriano Saldaña*, hija de Lucio Soriano y
Jesús Saldaña, el 8 Mayo 1877 en Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas.
Estefana nació en 1857.

4 iii.* Maria de la Encarnación López
Hernández*nació el 26 Marzo 1860 en Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román,
Zacatecas, México y
tuvo su bautismo infantil el 27 Marzo 1860 en Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román,
Zacatecas.

5 iv.* Miguel López Hernández* nació el 7 Mayo 1863
en Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas, México y tuvo su bautismo
infantil el 25 Mayo 1863 en Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas, México.

6 F v.* María Natividad López Hernández* tuvo su
bautismo infantil el 5 Enero 1865 en Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román,
Zacatecas.

7 M vi.* Rafael López Hernández* tuvo su bautismo
infantil1 el 24 Octubre 1866 en Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas.

8 M vii.* Manuel López Hernández* tuvo su bautismo
infantil2 el 7 Enero 1875 en Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román, Zacatecas.

SALUDOS, A TODO EL GRUPO
SOY MIEMBRO NUEVO EN ESTE ESPACIO, MI NOMBRE ES LUPITA GONZALEZ, EL INTERES DE PERTENECER AQUI, ES QUE MI ASCENDENCIA POR PARTE DE MI MADRE, ES DE LOS ALTOS DE JALISCO, EN ESPECIAL VALLE DE GUADALUPE, PERO TAMBIEN SUS ALREDEDORES,JALOSTOTITLAN, CAÑADAS, LAGOS, NOCHISTLAN, AGUASCALIENTES, Y OTROS LUGARES, LLEVO MENOS DE UN AÑO HACIENDO EL ARBOL GENEALOGICO DE LA FAMILIA, Y CREO QUE LLEVO ALGO AVANZADO, ESTOY DISPUESTA A COMPARTIR INFORMACION, SI EXISTEN PERSONAS FUERA DE GUADALAJARA, LES PUEDO APOYAR BUSCANDO EN LOS ARCHIVOS DE LA SAGRADA MITRA.
LES COMENTO QUE HA SIDO UNA SORPRESA PARA MI ENCONTRARME, CON APELLIDOS COMO DE RUEDA, ALVAREZ, CASILLAS, MARTIN DEL CAMPO, RUBALCAVA, LEDESMA, ALMEIDA, ROMO DE VIVAR,TISCAREÑO, MOLINA, DE ALBA, LOMELI, TELLO OROZCO ,MASIAS VALADES, DE LA MORA, ZAMORA Y MUCHISIMOS MAS QUE NO RECUERDO POR AHORA, SE QUE AQUI ENCONTRARE MAS DE ALGUN FAMILIAR, Y DESEO SER UN BUEN ELEMENTO EN ESTE GRUPO....
QUEDO A SUS ORDENES .......LUPITA GONZALEZ

I need some help in interpreting an abbreviation of a name.

I have seen names such as "Ma. Ha." and "Ha. Rafaela" in baptismal records.

"Ma." is the common abbreviation for Maria, but what does "Ha." stand for? Could it be Hipolita", are there other possibilities?

George Fulton

I've been going through the Family Seach site, searching in Celaya for baptisms around the year 1630 The years jump from abt 1622 to the 1640s. Wondering if this is normal, or if the years that I'm interested in are missing.

Paul

https://www.familysearch.org/search/recordDetails/show?uri=https://api…

Esta es la liga, es el Papa de mi tatalabuelo, se la fecho pero no e visto el microfilm.
les agrdesco de antemano.
Salvador Gutierrez