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Thursday, January 22, 2009

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Without places and dates, it is hard to tell whom we are talking about. I looked at my old files and this is what I came up with:

Christobal HERNANDEZ GAMINO born about 1631 in Ayo el Chico, Jalisco, Mexico. Married 23 Feb 1653 in Leon, Guanjuato, Mexico to Maria RUIZ de VELASCO, daughter of Pedro RUIZ de VELASCO and Anna NUNEZ BOJORQUEZ.

My old notes on Christobal...! Birth from Steven HERNANDEZ Aug 28, 1999.
Marriage from Steven HERNANDEZ Aug 28, 1999.
Cristobal HERNANDEZ Gamiño was the principal patriarch of the HERNANDEZ
family in the towns of Ayo el Chico and Arandas. SH
He was dead pre Apr 1721 when son Joseph and daughter-in-law, Mariana
VALDIVIA were padrinos. His wife Ma. de BELASCO was also listed
as dead.
New information from Lillian WOLD on June 25, 2001 gave birth as about
1628 in Leon, Guanajuato.

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Parents for Christobal were Domingo HERNANDEZ GAMINO born about 1603 in Extremadura, Spain and married to Juana GOMEZ de ESPEJO, daughter of Garci BRAVO de LAGUNAS and Juana GOMEZ de ESPEJO.

My old notes on Domingo...!

! Birth from Steven HERNANDEZ Aug 28, 1999.
It is not known exactly when he arrived in the New World. He was already here about 1627 when around that year he wed Juana GOMEZ de Espejo, daughter of Garcí BRAVO de Lagunas and Juana GOMEZ de Espejo. They had 17 children. SH

The surname of HERNANDEZ, during colonial times was known as HERNANDEZ GAMIÑO. HERNANDEZ GAMIÑO was a compounded name, two names in one, typical of the majority of the Spanish last names of the era. The HERNANDEZ GAMIÑO family was and still is one of the most extended families in the Los Altos region of Jalisco, especially in Arandas and Ayo el Chico where they multiplied prolifically. The HERNANDEZ GAMIÑOS were the main founders of the new town of Arandas, originally called Santa Maria de Guadalupe de los Arandas, in the 1760's. They also spread into parts of Guanajuato and Michoacan. All of the HERNANDEZ GAMIÑOS descend from Domingo HERNANDES GAMIÑO, the first Spanish settler of this last name in the Los Altos region and patriarch of this vast family. SH

Hola a Todos!

I have a couple of questions, which I would like to ask.
I know now the parents of the wife of Rodrigo Cristobal Olivares 1563, Maria Hurtado de Mendoza 1567, were Toribio Hernandez de Arellano Ab1550 and Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza Ab1550. Aguas.
I saw it written that Isabel is believed to be the daughter of Diego Hurtado de Mendoza, who is the son of Rodrigo Dias de Vivar Hurtado de Mendoza ab1482, Marques de Cenate, and Maria Fonseca y Toledo Ab1486, Guad. España.
Does anyone know this to be true?

Also does anyone know anything about Ana Camacho’s family 1622, who was married to Juan Gutierrez de Mendoza 1621, Jalos.?
Does anyone know about Juan Maciel and Marcela Galvan de Rojas who were the parents of Antonia Micaela Maciel who was married 1721 to Cristobal Gutierrez de Mendoza?

Thank you for any help.
Sophia

Hola a Todos!

Tengo algunas preguntas.
Conosco los papas de la mujer de Rodrigo Cristobal Olivares 1563, Maria Hurtado de Mendoza 1567, que eran Toribio Hernandez de Arellano ab1550 y Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza ab1550. Aguas.
Lo he visto escrito que el padre de Isabel era Diego Hurtado de Mendoza, que era el hijo de Rodrigo Dias Vivar Hurtado de Mendoza ab1482, Marques de Cenate, y de Maria Fonseca y Toledo ab 1486, Guad. España.
¿Es que algien conoce si esto es la verdad?

Tambien me gusteria saber si algien conoce sobre la familia de Ana Camacho 1622 que estaba casada con Juan Gutierrez de Mendoza 1621, Jalos.
Y tambien si algien sabe sobre la familia de Antonia Micaela Maciel 1721 que estaba casada con Cristobal Gutierrez de Mendoza, que eran Juan Maciel y Marcela Galvan de Rojas.

Gracias.
Sophia

I have connected my Ornelas line back to Alvaro de Ornelas who came from portugal to Mexico city in 1527. He was the son of El "Conde de Dornelas" his name was also Alvaro Dornelas. I have backed it up through Microfilm back to 1565 in Lagos de Moreno where the Alvaros son was born in 1567, and then the rest is just what the royals except the genealogy.

Here is what it looks like

Alvaro de Ornelas, Count of Dornelas, born ca. 1462 in Dornelas, Portugal

Alvaro de Ornelas born ca. 1494 in Lisbon, Portugal

Alvaro de Ornelas born ca. 1531 in Mexico City

Alvaro de Ornelas born 24 Mar 1567 in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco

I guess Alvaro was a family name!

If you keep going back to genealogy the Ornelas descend from the Pedro I, King of Portugal, through one of the Ornelas who married his daughter Princess Estefania of Portugal, and also King Robert II of France through one of his daughters, Princess Alembert of France and then the Kings of Aragon, though Princess Jimena of Aragon. The Ornelas are direct descedants of Ramiro III, King of Leon. Im also having this problem with other noble lines, but Im not sure whether just to except what has been established or keep searching. Im assuming the Nobility kept good records i suppose. Can anyone help me, Im really confused. What would you do? Thanks.

Wednesday, Dec 24, 2008

Dear Group--

Many years ago when I was an active part of SHHAR in Orange, California, I was given a poster which was about Don Martin Casillas--
Architect/ Alarife of the cathedrals Puebla de Los Angeles, Mexico City and Guadalajara. Listed as his some of his descendants were the following seven SHHAR members; Tony Campos and his wife Clarisa Vega, Ramon Godinez, George Herrera, Ophelia Marquez, Mary Lou Montagna, and Lillian Wold.

There were pictures of two cathedrals and various people. In the center was a large picture of Don Martin Casillas. We were told later that the picture was actually that of Miguel de Cervantes, the writer of Don Quixote. Ha-ha-ha, what a laugh we got from that.

Here is more from the poster which was given to me by Lillian RAMOS Wold:

Don Martin CASILLAS was born in Almendralejo, Extremadura, Spain about 1556. He arrived in Puebla de Los Angeles, Nueva Espana around 1578 with the new viceroy, don Lorenzo de Suarez y Mendoza, Count of Coruna. Don Martin was commissioned to work on the construction of the cathedral in Puebla. In 1583, when Viceroy Lorenzo de Suarez y Mendoza died, don Martin Cassillas was sent to work on the Mexico City Cathedral. He took his wife Mencia Gonzalez Cabrera, daughter of Francisco Jimenez and Mencia Gonzalez Cabrera, with him to Mexico City and their two children, Maria and Martin (born respectively 1580 and 1582.) His third Child, Francisco was born in Mexico City in 1584 (an architect like his father.) After approximately two years, he was assigned to the Cathedral at Guadalajara. There were four more children born in Guadalajara; Rodrigo Bernardo, Mariana, Domingo and Ines.

Don Martin Casillas was paid in land to supplement the payment for the work he did on the Cathedral of Guadalajara. There were only two cathedrals that were larger than the one in Guadalajara and they were the one at Puebla and the one in Mexico City. He was buried in Mexico City and years later, his body was exhumed and interned in the family vault in the cathedral of Guadalajara. Years later, his wife and some of his children and grandchildren were also buried in the family vault in the cathedral of Guadalajara.

The best to each and everyone of you from the home of Ramon GODINEZ and Patricia Diane LONGHURST (AKA Patricia Burton) in San Diego, Ca.

--- On Sun, 12/21/08, actapatio2007 wrote:

Si quieren tener mejores resultados, simplemente pongan más datos. No se limiten a nada mas poner los dos apellidos que buscan. Pongan información de familiares: hermanos, cónyuge(s), hijos, etc.... ¿Cual es el primer nombre? ¿Cuando nació, se caso, murió- en que fecha, y lugar y mas importante por que cree eso? Personas no siempre utilizan los dos apellidos, a veces utilizan el de la madre, ciertas familias utilizan el apellido de un pariente famoso, por muchas generaciones. Poniendo mas información le va a abrir las puertas y personas le van a poderle ayudar con mas eficacia.

If you want to have better results, simply put more data. Do not limit yourselves to showing both of the last names you’re looking for. Put information about relatives: brothers, spouse (s), children, etc…. What is the first name? When did the birth take place, marriage, death- in what date and place and more importantly why do you think that? People do not always use both last names; sometimes they use the mothers’, certain families use the last name of a famous relative, for many generations. Putting more information is going to open the doors and people are going to be able to help with greater effectiveness.

Hola Daniel, Juan Pablo y Enrique:

Gusto en saludarlos, y que bueno que estan tocando el tema de
los Ruiz de Velasco, ya que por via materna me interesa mucho
este linaje, y yo no he avanzado mucho en el, es un gusto leer que
ustedes saben mucho mas de este tema, y es un placer aprender
de ustedes, aunque por lo que veo existen discrepancias ya que
daniel habla de un Ruiz de Velasco de finales de 1700 y Juan Pablo
menciona este linaje desde 1600, cual sera la version cierta, o lo seran
las 2 versiones y esten hablando de 2 personajes distintos.

Ojala me puedan ayudar a avanzar en mi genealogia, lo Ruiz de
Velasco me viene por via materna por mi Tatarabuelo Benito Castellanos
Ruiz de Velasco, el solo se hacia llamar y se firmaba Benito Castellanos
Ruiz, o sea que al contrario de Daniel, el apellido se sintetizo a Ruiz y no
en Velasco como el caso de Daniel.

Mi Genealogia Ascendente es asi:

1.- Yo: Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez
2.- Mis Padres: Tomas Villegas Gutierrrez y Ma. Elena Gómez Castellanos.
3.- Mis Abuelos: Jose Gomez Gomez y Sara Castellanos Romero.
4.- Mis Bisabuelos: Teofilo Castellanos Franco y Ma. Asuncion Romero
Segundo.
5.- Mis Tatarabuelos: Benito Castellanos Ruiz y Ma. Soledad Franco Aceves.
6.- Mis 4tos. Abuelos: Jose Trinidad Castellanos Ruiz de Velasco y Ma.
Ignacia
Ruiz de Velasco Aceves.
Aqui Dos lineas de Ruiz de Velasco.
7.- Mis 5tos. Abuelos: Antonio Castellanos Sagú o Shagun y Ma. de Jesus Ruiz
de Velasco Sagú y por la otra linea: Ramon Ruiz de Velasco Vilana y
Carmen
Aveves Castellanos.
8.- Mis 6tos. Abuelos: Tomas Ruiz de Velasco y Francisca Sagú y hasta aqui
tengo
por esta linea, solo sabiendo que Tomas tiene un hermano llamado
Antonio Ruiz
de Velasco, pero no se el nombre de sus padres y por la otra linea:
Salvador Ruiz
de Velasco e Ignacia Vilana y hasta aqui tengo tambien.

Ojala y puedan ayudarme con mi genealogia.

Por otro lado diganme como va la organizacion del Grupo Occidente y la
Espiral
y la coordinacion de las conferencias genealogicas con Benicio Samuel,
cuando vamos
a platicar via voip.

This last weekend, I scanned the entire 1842 Census of Totatiche, Jalisco. For anyone who is interested in the document, it can be downloaded from the following URL. You should be warned that it is a very large file (approximately 100MB) and will therefore take a very long time to download 10-15 minutes even with DSL.

http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/Totatiche1842Census.pdf

I was thinking this may be a good project to take on as a group, i.e. extracting the data into a database that can then be used to publish a cross-referenced version of the census. If anyone is interested in participating in such a project, I can try to put together a way to collaborate.

I was hoping someone might be able to help me with this: I searched the pilot program and found my grandma, Maria del Carmen Ornelas, b 28 Nov 1900, Jesus, Guadalajara, Jalisco.  Her father, Doroteo Ornelas and mother, Rosa Cortez. The film #1106706 and batch # is C01861-3.  The record is only for view at this time. 

Does anyone know if there is a way to get a copy of her birth record?  Or maybe it is only in extraction format and not ready for realease?  I could order the film but it takes forever. 
 
Doroteo Ornelas came from Guanajuato and Rosa Cortez de Leon from Santa Cruz de Astilleros.  I cannot find Santa Cruz de Astilleros by Guadalajara.  Could it have changed names later?  If any one can help me I would be most greatful.

Escribanme si necesitan traduccion.  Gracias.   Esther Jordan (Lopez)

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  Spouse:  MARIA TEODOCIA FLORES Family
  Marriage:  10 JAN 1835   Tepetongo, Zacatecas, Mexico

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Hola, Jose Felix,

For those who might be interested we have one copy of : Cronica de la Provincia de Santiago de Xalisco, Escrita por Fr. Nicolas Antonio de Ornelas Mendoza y Valdivia. Pulished in 1952 by Instituto Jalisciense de Antropologia E Historia. The price of the book is $46.00, which includes US shipping costs. The book is in good condition, but has light spot on face and the front edge of book has darkened. Inside page have some yellowing, but are clean.

Carlos Yturralde
Hispanic Heritage Project

Hola a todos los miembros,
Just a a happy Dia de la Candelaria, Tomorrow February 2, for those who had the rosca de Reys and were the lucky or unlucky ones. Tomorrow is the tamaleada. 

paco_romo wrote:
>
> Second : Please guys help me here I'm in Iceland and some times in
Labrador (Canada), there is absolutly no way I can have any microfilms
ordered here can anyone tell me if you guys have any scans from this
same "Spanish Trunk" records??
>

I am not doing research in this area otherwise I'd definitely be willing
to do look ups for you. On the other hand I found that the LDS Library
Services offer a great photocopy service that can get expensive if you
are looking for a lot of records.Here is info on that photocopy service:

go to http://www.familysearch.org
click on "Research Helps"
click on the "R" for Requests
download "Requests for Photocopies - IGI and Sources [Description] [PDF]"

the cost for photocopies is $2 each with a minimum order being $4

if you have any questions about this ask and I'll try to answer.

joseph

ps:

Family History Centers in Iceland:

Reykjavik Iceland
Asabraut 2
I-210 Gardabaer
Reykjavik, Iceland
Phone: 354-354-5547103

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To all:

I discovered today the the LDS church has posted images at the new Family Search Pilot site from the Aguascalientes, AGS, microfilms of baptisms, confirmations, deaths, marriages and matrimonial investigations. The period covered begins in the 1600s and extends to the early 1900s. The images are not by themselves searchable, but when used in conjunction with the IGI, it is very easy to find records of interest. The image quality is quite high; you can also download the images. The image quality is high enough that you can significantly enlarge the images for items of interest. This is a truly marvelous addition to their site!

George Fulton

Hola amigos, hace días que estoy aventajando una rama de mi árbol genealógico por el lado de la familia Salas de Bonilla.

Pues resulta que mi ancestros José Santiago Salas de Bonilla casó en Tepatitlán, Jalisco, pero era de Aguascalientes, y me puse a investigar en Aguascalientes y de ahí me lleva hasta Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco con Simón de Salas y Bonilla y Nicolasa de Anda Altamirano, pero quedé hasta ahí porque ya no encuentro nada sobre ésta pareja.

Alguien de ustedes tienen alguna relación con ésta familia, o tiene información sobre ellos que me pueda proporcionar.

Saludos.
Jorge Luis Ramírez Gómez.

· Great great grandfather: Ciriaco Medina Aguilar, Birth June 20, 1846 Pinos, Zacatecas, San Matias Church. His parents on birth record: Espidiron Aguilar and Isabel Medina.
· Isabel Medina's' parents, Pedro Medina and Antonia Ponce.
· Espidiron Aguilar's' parents: Jose Maria Aguilar and Ursula Contreras
· Great great-grandmother:Spouse(:Florentina Alvarez) Her parents, Ciriaco Alvarez, father and Mother. Nicolasa Moran
· Great-grandmother: Casimira Alvarez Medina, Birth:March 4, 1880,Pinos, Zacatecas, Died, January, 24, 1960, San Bernardino, CA
· Great-grandfather: Esteban Munoz Cubillos, his parents: Jose Angel Cubillos/Juana Munoz.
· Grandmother: Aurea Aguilar Cubillos, Born August 23, 1902, Pinos, Zacatecas, Died November 29, 1996, San Bernardino< CA.

Thank you for the offfer of assistance, Sylvia

Just a note to inform everyone that the book has been sold. Thanks to all
who expressed an interest.

Maria Cortez

My name is Maria Cortez. I'm researching the Cortez, Alvarado, Hernandez, Ortiz family.

My grand parents name were Antonio Cortez Alvardo Hernandez maried to Ma- Manuela Alvarado Ortiz both born in Matansas de Jalisco around the year of 1909 and 1913.

My great great grandparents were Jose Refuio Cortez married to Alejandra Hernandez pretty sure they were born in Jalisco area the years were around 1880 and 1885.

Any help is apriciated.

Thanks.

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Hello Everyone ,

I came across this site from another group it´s called Sologenealogia.com it´s from Venezuela . They have been extracting information for quite some time .

It shows List, Destinations, Fathers and what group they were in, Wives, Paper works and the years of the paper works.

Hope there is something there of use for you .

Welester G. Alvarado

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  Spouse:  MARIANA RUIZ DE ANDA Family
  Marriage:  02 JUL 1656   Santa Maria De Los Lagos, Lagos De Moreno, Jalisco, Mexico

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This is a very interestin site, I had already checked it and has a lot of information. Hope it is useful to everyone, for me only gave mi hints, but not real information that I can take as certain yet (mean, havent gone that far in my ivestigation).

I am not sure of your question....but if I can clarify some things....

Many village and town names were changed after the Revolutionary War. Most
especially, if the town or village was part of an hacienda or resulted
thereof.

On a side note, the "robando" of a wife was quite common in some
communities...indeed my mother-in-law was "robada" - and from what I can gather - it was
a way to hook up with someone not from a perceived class - once "robada", s
he had to be made honorable, and a marriage would ensue.

When a person was "robada", she was taken to his family. Sometimes her
family remained stubborn in accepting the inevitable, but when a child resulted...

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I am having some trouble trying to place some of the Ruis de Esparza (or de Esparza) women into their families. I have the following:

Juana Ruis de Esparza m. Pedro Macias, 16 Sep 1678, Aguascalientes
Catharina Ruis de Esparza m. Onofre Macias, 20 Nov 1707, Aguascalientes
Gertrudis de Esparza m. Juan de Escobar, no date, but perhaps 1690's

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

George Fulton