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Deena Ortiz's work is especially welcome and much appreciated.

Sincerely,

Charles Clark

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From: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>

To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:03 AM
Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 499


There are 4 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

     1. Re: Sebastian de Vlloa
          From: "Deena Ortiz" <drortiz@...>
     2. Re: Re: Sebastian de Vlloa
          From: Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@...>
     3. Re: Digest Number 495
          From: Lorenzo Cuesta <quijote1945@...>

4. Subject: Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen;
Lorenzo; Maria; Steven(2)

          From: Joseph Puentes <makas@...>


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Message: 1
  Date: Mon, 23 May 2005 10:44:26 -0700
  From: "Deena Ortiz" <drortiz@...>
Subject: Re: Sebastian de Vlloa

There are no parents identified in this record. This is a problem that has
become a block wall for me on several lines. For a series of years (about
the first third of the 18th century, 1752, 1785) no parents are identified
for any of the "pretensos" -- the bride and groom -- on the microfilmed
records for marriages in Nochistlan. Since the abuelos were not indentified
in the christening records till the latter part of 1798, where do I turn
without having to make a trip to Nochistlan to break down these walls? So
far I have only looked at the films of matrimonios and bautismos on loan
from the Family History Center in SLC.

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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 18 May 2005 16:28:32 -0500
From: Joseph Puentes
Subject: Necesito Ayuda:Test PleaseHelp/Alberto; Angel; Helen; Lorenzo; Maria; Steven


albertodua, angelrcervantes, mistyriver123, quijote1945,
readysetgo95814, sgapodaca

Will the above members please try to access my personal briefcase to see
if that will be a good place to store additional Files in the future.

You need to go to "Links" then to "Genealogies" then to Click on
"AntonioPuenteAnnaPlacencia
"
and then see
if you can access both either one of the files in my
briefcase. If you all can then I might have found a solution to our
storage file problem. . .at least it will give us an additional 30 mb
which is more than we have now.

thanks,


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Has anyone traced the Ulloa family in Nochistlan back to the early 1600s?
According to Clotilde Evelia Quiarte in her book on Nochistlan, Gaspar de
Casareal y Ulloa was a founder of Nochistlan. Does anyone have Gaspar's
descendants?

I am interested because I have my grandmother Ulloa's ancestor back to
Sebastian de Ulloa born about 1704 and can't get beyond this. Perhaps
someone has done Gaspar downwards and I can use the data to link up.

Sincerely,

Charles Clark

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To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, May 21, 2005 10:51 AM
Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 497


There are 2 messages in this issue.

Topics in this digest:

     1. Re: Newspapers - early 20th century
          From: Armando Lopez <spainirelandengland@...>
     2. Historic Newspapers
          From: Joseph Puentes <makas@...>


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Message: 1
  Date: Fri, 20 May 2005 10:32:46 -0700 (PDT)
  From: Armando Lopez <spainirelandengland@...>
Subject: Re: Newspapers - early 20th century

Hi Natalie.

I have been trying to access news from Los Altos, Jal., notably in the
Arandas-Jesus Maria regions, also, but I haven't had any luck as of yet.

I have only found Catholic church publications.

Please let me know, if you're able, if you happen on any of these regional
publications.

Does anyone know of the existence of archives of newspapers in
Zacatecas for years 1880-1920? It would be interesting to read about
the contemporary news of that time period.
Thanks to all for sharing your ideas and expertise - this is always a
great place for learning.

Natalie

Does anyone know of the existence of archives of newspapers in 
Zacatecas for years 1880-1920? It would be interesting to read about 
the contemporary news of that time period.
Thanks to all for sharing your ideas and expertise - this is always a 
great place for learning.

Natalie

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Oh wow Emilie,

That is just terrible. But then I make myself wonder what if someone out of
the blue had called me and said this to me before I ever started doing my
geneology thing.

Plus a lot of us are not here legally, you know what I mean? So we just want
to keep a low profile. Of course their could be other reasons as well.

But anyways I will be praying you get a break through.



              ~~glo~~






From: "Emilie Garcia" <auntyemfaustus@...>
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To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [ranchos] Telephone Oral History
Date: Tue, 17 May 2005 15:38:37 -0700

Yes, Joseph, I too have had, if not hostile, then indifferent and evasive
reactions to my inquiries of distant cousins even here in the US. My sister
still lives in Silicon Valley where we were raised, and she found a second
cousin in the phone book that also lives in San Jose. He admitted being
related (his father and our father were first cousins), but when she asked
for a meeting, he kept putting her off saying he didn't know anything about
family trees, etc. Our father and his father are long gone. He said his
mother might have some pictures. When my sister called the mother, she
denied having any pictures or documents (which is hard to believe). My
sister has been calling his mother, and she keeps putting off meeting with
her. My sister tried calling the cousin again, and he had changed his phone
number! Talk about being wary and suspicious!

Since we are female, have no brothers, and my father had no brothers, my
sister and I have been looking for male Olague relatives in order to submit
DNA to the University of Arizona to see which haplogroup our father belonged
to. Imagine trying to get a person like our reluctant cousin to submit a
DNA sample when we can't even get to first base! We might have to bribe him
or one of his sons big time. We'll see.

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