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Hi Laura,
Just wanted to let you know that you appear as a 5th cousin in my Familyfinder matches.  Let's compare info.
Thanks, Alice Bravo Blake

From: "mayangrl@sonic.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, October 7, 2013 9:59 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] DNAgedcom Files Help

Hi,
I need to download a Chromosome Browser file from http://www.dnagedcom.com/ through the Family Tree DNA link, for the Nueva Galicia DNA project, which I did.

However, when I open it, there's nothing there except some headers.  I thought there would be other info. 
What should I be seeing, and what am I doing wrong?  FYI, I use Firefox on a MacBook Pro.

Thanks, Laura Gonzalez

Welcome to the group Mia.  I didn’t have Nazario Ponce in my records, I’m
not sure how I missed him, but, you’re right about his grandparents. I descend
from them as well. Juan Nepomuceno Muñoz and Guadalupe Diaz, as well as,
Gregorio Ponce and Maria Gertrudis Rangel are my 6th Great
Grandparents. I’ll tell you what I know, starting with the Muñoz Gonzalez de
Hermosillo/Diaz de Leon line first.  
Juan Nepomuceno Muñoz and Guadalupe Diaz were married on 8
Jan 1803 in Aguascalientes. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11759-70281-65?cc=1502404&…
Juan Nepomuceno Muñoz (born Apr 1782) was the son of Joseph
Thomas Muñoz Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Michaela de Acosta y Pedroza.  Guadalupe Diaz (born May 1785) was the
daughter of Vicente Diaz de Leon and Antonia de Medina.
Joseph Thomas Muñoz Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Michaela de
Acosta y Pedroza were married 16 Aug 1769 in Aguascalientes.  https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12126-33354-49?cc=1502404

Salvador:

El programa de PAF ha sido descontinuado por la iglesia mormona desde julio de este año.

Parece haber un par de sitios reputables donde se puede descargar aun si quieres intentar, aunque habra riesgos con descargar programas de sitios no conocidos.

http://download.cnet.com/Personal-Ancestral-File/3000-20414_4-14899.html

La iglesia mormona recomienda descargara y usar uno de varios programas que se ofrecen gratuitamente tal como Roots Magic.

http://www.rootsmagic.com/FamilySearch/

Hola Victoriano,

Your Mediterranean and North_European are almost exactly 70% of the Spanish_D. (The D stands for Dodecad). So I took 70% of everything else that Spanish_D has and put it in your Spanish percentage and subtracted that amount from the different Asian and African percentages. Then I placed the remaining amounts into your Amerindian and African percentages. You come out 71.24% Spanish, 27.81 Amerindian, and 0.64 African. You have a lot more Spanish than most Mexicans but about the same as most Alteños that show all or most of their ancestors to be españoles.

The following doesn't align perfectly so you have to count the headers and the columns to be sure you are on the correct group when looking at the percentages.

Victoriano Spanish_D Spanish Amerindian African
Siberian 0.02 0.00 0.00 0.02 0.00
Amerindian 20.22 0.00 0.00 20.22 0.00
West_African 1.33 0.90 0.63 0.00 0.43
Palaeo_African 0.21 0.10 0.07 0.00 0.11
Southwest_Asian 8.10 5.60 3.92 4.18 0.00
East_Asian 0.00

Hola Mario,

En el Archivo de Instrumentos Públicos de Guadalajara, Jal. México se encuentra el "nombramiento de Don Phelipe de Otadui y Avendaño, Alcalde Mayor de Santa María de los Lagos y Pueblos Llanos, fechado 3 de diciembre de 1686, durante el tiempo que sierviere dicho oficio" el cual fue firmado por Don Antonio Ortiz de Otalora. En otro documento en el mismo archivo se menciona que el Capt. Don Phelipe de Otadui y Avendaño era Alcalde Mayor de la Villa de Lagos en 1690.

En el Portal de Archivos Españoles (PARES) se encuentra un archivo con fecha 1687-06-12 que dice lo siguiente:

"Expediente de información y licencia de pasajero a indias de Felipe Otaduy y Avendaño, alcalde mayor de Santa María de los Lagos y Pueblos Llanos en
la provincia de Nueva Galicia, a Nueva España, con las siguientes personas:

- Catalina Baño y de la Cueva, mujer
- Luisa de Otaduy, hija
- Manuel Tacón, criado, natural de Madrid
- Ignacio Machain, criado, natural de Urmausteri

Note that this area belogned to the Obispado de Michoacán up until the turn of the XIX century.
Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino

I have no answer for you but if you find where Cotija is listed in the records for Michoacán I would be interested.. so many people in Tamazula, Jalisco seem to have roots in Cotija.
Linda in B.C.

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From: "jrodori@hotmail.com"
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 4:44 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Historical information for southeast Laguna Chapala region, Jalisco

Does anyone know what books cover the colonial history of the municipalities of Jalisco that are near the southeast shoreline of Laguna Chapala? The municipalities that are of greatest interest to me are Mazamitla, Quitupan, and Valle de Juarez, Jalisco. Those municipalities are close to Sahuayo, and Cotija, Michoacan. My historical research of the area has come up dry. Not much more could be said for my genealogical research of the area, either. I also want to know what clans settled in those three Jalisco municipalities and how Valle de Juarez came

Alejandra Varela.... I agree with the other comments i think is use to refer just a friend.. in Poncitlan Jalisco was the first place i heard it... they say it a LOT there..

Gilberto,

Mr. Navarro is correct, it means..."Valedor"(Friend), I migth be wrong, but as far as I know, the word "Vale" is very much used in Michoacan, I never heard anyone from Jalisco, Sinaloa or Nayarit used it, but then there could be execptions. I grew up in the Cienega Michoacana region, near La Barca Jalisco (which belongs to the Cienega Jaliciense region, south of Los Altos region) and I remember some people refer to others as "Vale"; also "Primo" & "Compa" are very common in that region.

Saludos,
Roberto Hdez

I have never heard friends or family from Jalisco say Quiubole Vale, Ándale Vale, Mira Vale, or Ese Vale.

It does seem to be a very rare slang word. It doesn't even show up in dictionaries of Mexicanismos, Modismos Mexicanos, or Terminos Mexicanos.

Armando

Alejandra Varela...I use my FS is the only place i use now to keep track of my information and i love the new updates they have done... where you can link the document so there's no more confusing of dates and all that... and their website is where i have been able to find a lot of ancestor and link them together. I would recommend it :).

i hope this helps.

I have a tree on family search, since I am a member of the church that is the only way to add my family name to have their work done. But I have a main tree on genealogy.com and also have two trees, my mom's side and my dad's side, on tribalpages.com I use the family search tree only for the church. It's not that bad of a tree and when you sign up for it it will ask if you are a member of the church or not.

Hello David,

Although I use FS all the time and it helps me considerably in my research, I
have not used the family tree. I have actually just started mine and edited my profile and my husband, and that is all for now. I do plan on creating my tree there on FS eventually. My family tree is on Ancestry.com.

Sorry I could not be more helpful,

Kristine

That is so crazy, Raul. I have just spent the last 2 hours looking and hoping for just that information on family search. I finally gave up and came to nuestros ranchos, and yours is the first post I see :) May I ask what family names you are looking for during that time in Juchipila?
Sandra Blankinship

ESTE ES EL LINK, ESPERO Y TE SIRVA EN TÚ BUSQUEDA
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15210-25859-37?cc=1410092&wc…

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: RaulV1@Prodigy.net
> Date: Tue, 3 Sep 2013 19:33:23 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] late 1700s and early 1800s
>
> Anybody know where I can find information about Juchipila, Zacatecas, in the late 1700s and early 1800s?
> Thanks,
>
> Raul Luna

Hola, Daniel:

Esta es mi primer participacion en Nuestros Ranchos pues no he encontrado participantes investigando el apellido Bojorquez que por ahora es de mi interes.

Vivo en Richmond, CA, donde no hay un Centro de la Iglesia cercano a mi domicilio como para asistir y recibir el apoyo y orientacion para investigar sobre estos mis ancestros Bojorquez. Bueno, hay uno en Concord, creo, pero no tengo tiempo para asistir debido a mi trabajo diario, de lunes a sabado; el domingo?, bueno, el domingo siempre esta saturado de los pendientes familiares, compras, etc., ... cosas que no pudieron hacerse durante la semana.

Sin embargo, sigo diariamente los mensajes del grupo de Nuestros Ranchos, todos los cuales son sumamente interesantes sin importar el topico que aborden. Hay miembros sumamente preparados y experimentados de los que mucho hay que aprender: es avasallador, para los que como yo no tenemos experiencia en la investigacion genealogica, el despliegue de conocimientos que algunos

Hi Maureen

The surname Morquecho turns up in this informacion matrimonial from zacatecas, sagrario 1781, image 405

The groom is Jose Francisco Lira, son of Augustino Lira and Rafaela Morquecho.
The bride is Maria Bruna Brabo, dau of Rafael Brabo and Maria Manuela Rodriguez.
Both are Indian.

Here's the link:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15210-55156-84?cc=1804458&wc…

I'd never seen the name Morquecho before, so i checked to see if anyone had any relation to it in NR, and your post turned up. You may not be looking for morquechos, but any else who does a search of the morquecho name will see this post.

Other than that, i can see we share the name Araujo, mine from armadillo de los infantes...

Regards,
Denise

What names are you searching for or connected to for Jauregui from Teocaltiche or surrounding area? I am researching the Jauregui-Delgadillo line.Hopefully we are
looking for the same ancestors. My youngest son also did Y-DNA thru FTDA for Jauregui
Thanks

Hi Robert,
Welcome to the group.
I am also doing research on the Jauregui-Delgadillo family from Jalisco Teocaltiche
and the Romo-Martinez family from Jalisoco Jalostotitlan.

My in-laws currently live in Teocaltiche and Jalostotitlan.

Judy Rodriguez-Jauregui
Rancho Cucamonga, CA

Hello Roberto,

Glad to meet you via Nuestros Ranchos, we may have many relatives in common. My family and Ancestors are from the regions you are researching.

Hope we may be able to help each other. Daniel Mendez has researched these regions and may be of great help too.

Saludos.

Victor Renteria Silva

Note: I apologize for replying back with a different subject, which it created a new thread...I don't know how to go about and deleting that post.

Welcome primo Roberto,

For someone so young, you have made much progress and you will be a great asset to this group and I know that this group of people will be valuable to you in your research, especially when it comes to those brick walls.

I hope to see you at our conference coming up on September 14th in Sacramento.

Alicia

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From: Roberto Rosales
To: "research@nuestrosranchos.org"
Sent: Monday, September 2, 2013 2:56 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction for Roberto Rosales

Hello,
my name is Roberto Rosales Villalpando, and I recently started doing genealogy
research. Growing up I was always curious about my family history. Sadly, I
wandered around with many questions, but no answers. Now, that I am going for a
biology major I have found a passion in genealogy, I do not know why, but
knowing who my ancestors were gives me a sense of belonging. Now I know more
about my family than my only great-grandmother still living.
My recent