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HEY, thats my great grandfather!!! Thank you.

--- On Sun, 11/30/08, John Inclan wrote:

From: John Inclan
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Escovedo
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 8:13 PM

IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0
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FRANCISCA ORTIZ Pedigree
  Female   Family

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Marriages:
  Spouse:  TEODORO ESCOVEDO Family
  Marriage:  21 MAY 1888   Guadalupe De Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Zacatecas,
Mexico

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Con much o gusto Primo:
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wow. Emilie, my families history is almost identical to yours. My grandfather had a sister named Mariana who was married to a man, last name Mesa (I can't remember right now his first) and he was executed on trumped up charges. When the authorities realized their mistake they gave Mariana money that she used to come here. She had two brothers who were conscripted also, named Francisco and Felipe and they were never seen or heard from again. My grandfather made it over here through El Paso also. The name Mata has come up in my search. In fact I'll look for it but there was a Mata and I think the name was Juan de Mata. I'll have to go look. I have been trying to find records of military information also. All of this also happened around 1913-1916.

--- On Sat, 11/29/08, Emilie Garcia wrote:

From: Emilie Garcia
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Escobedo in Zacatecas
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 3:29 PM

Robert,

I thought I had lots of Escobedos

Are your Escobedos from Zacatecas? I have Escobedos in my lines, and I think they originated in Monte Escobedo, Zacatecas.

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: resco16
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2008 1:03 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Escobedo Family

Hi everyone. I am fairly new to this site and looking for anyone with Escobedo's in their family tree. I have my genealogy traced back to around 1820 but have not had much luck getting more information. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks.

Robert Escobedo

This is true North Western Michoacán called Valle de Zamora is also considered part of the Alteño family so is Aguas and Southern and Eastern Zac, i.e. Huanusco, Jalpa, Nochistlán, Noria and Pinos and western Guanajuato. I have many ancestors who came from Michoacán to Jalisco and Aguas. We all know our spanish ancestors were mainly in Los Altos but eventually my uess would be overpopulated and scattered around the surrounding lands but never too far. I seen people go all over that area it was named Nueva Galicia and most families never left that entire area except to the north. -Daniel
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Joseph,

A historical relationship between states? In what context--migration, establishment-?

Most of us in the group, those of us from the US anyway, have more ancestors that migrated north to Chihuahua or Leon. I don't have any ancestors from Zacatecas (and my husband doesn't have any ancestors from Jalisco), that migrated to Guanajuato. I know very little about Guanajuato, except that many migrants to the US are from there. It had a very rich silver mine centuries ago, and many Indian tribes. I don't know when it became a state.

I am left to wonder why you were thinking of a "relationship" between Guanajuato and our ancestral states. What led you to think about it?

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Puentes
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, November 23, 2008 7:17 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Guanajuato ?

What do folks know about the historical relationship between our area of
research (Jalisco, Zacatecas

Had you consulted Censo de México 1930? in the www.familysearch.org site
you can click in the record search pilot section,
 
there next click in "view all collections",
and once there scroll down to where it says
1930 Mexico Census, 
click on it and
next click on "Browse the unindexed images"
there you will have it!
Please if any trouble ask again, to me you can write in spanish also, hasta luego.
 
Leticia Leon
 
 

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Donde estan los Santillan-Quesada de nochistlan y mexticacan levanten la mano,
Saludos
Antonio Santillan

Joseph,
In the Catholic faith during confirmation an individual-by his own will and concience- accepts the Catholic Faith and renounces to evil in presence of a Bishop, appearing with only one padrino or madrina, who was responsible for helping the ahijado(a) prepare in the doctrine of Church including an understanding of the the Confirmation cermony. Back in the old days in Mexico, that sponsor generally was an adult, often a relative, but not necessarily, and in many occassions it was the same Padrino from baptism. Interestingly, prior to the Second Vatican Council, there was no specified age for confirmation. Thus, for instance I was confirmed as a baby following my baptism (so much for me deciding one way or another).

Today, at least in the US, the name of godfather or godmother for confirmation appears to have been replaced with 'sponsor'. The sponsor has to be a confirmed Catholic. It can be a relative or a close friend, -even of the same age as the one being confirmed- my son

I don't know about current practices, but I had a madrina when I was
confirmed in 1966. Most chose a family member. One always chose a
godparent of the same sex.

On Sat, Nov 15, 2008 at 8:04 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

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> I was looking at a film in the 1741 time frame for Zacatecas, Zacatecas for
> Confirmations. Was the person sponsoring the person being confirmed also
> called a Padrino? I thought that was just for Godparents at the baptism? The
> records I was looking at mostly only had a single person sponsoring them
> wasn't there suppose to be two sponsors? Was the sponsor a serious
> commitment like it was to be a Godparent in that many times they chose a
> family member to be the sponsor?
>
> http://h2opodcast.com/nr/misc/Ahijados.JPG
> (in this picture above is this for confirmations or baptism, did they call
> the confirmed an Ahijado? I thought that meant Godchild).
>
> maybe that film had information about baptisms as well,
>
> joseph
>
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>

Good morning Joseph, just a notice to let you know that my email is changing to mgervassi2001@yahoo.com
please change my future emails
Thank you
Mary

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Saludos, Luis Miguel, mi nombre es José María Vallejo Mercado, soy de Jalostotitlán, Jal, y mis ancestros por lo Vallejo, son originarios de Cañadas de Obregon, que despues se regaron por Jalostotitlán, Tepatitlán, San Miguel el Alto, del Estado de Jalisco.
Mi ancestro que vino de Estado de México, Fua Lucas Vallejo Ramírez, nació en el Valle de las Amilpas Edo. de méxico en 1688, siendo el genearca de la mayoria de lso Vallejo de estas tierras. Lucas fué el Bisabuelo del General Maríano Guadalupe Vallejo, que nació el 4 o 5 de Julio de 1807, que en honor a el le pusieron el nombre a la Ciudad de Vallejo, que se encuentra como a 30 millas de San Francisco, Calif. siendo Mariano Guadalupe, hijo de Ignacio Vicente Ferrer, este hijo de Geronimo y este a la vez hijo de Lucas, al cual hice referencia.
por mi lado Vallejo, mi padre es Andres, hijo de Cecilio, hijo de Porfirio, hijo de Silverio, hijo de José GUadalupe, hijo de José Mariano (nació en 1799), hijo de Manuel hijo de

Im related to Miguel Godines that was married to Maria Carillo.

His daughter was Petra Godines who married Rafael Mora in La Barca, Jalisco.> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 15:36:44 -0800> From: canprin@yahoo.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] GODINEZ and BRIONES> > Tuesday, 11 Nov 2008> > Dear Daniel--> > My husband is related to Juan GODINEZ born about 1660 and married about 1684 to Micaela de Estrada. Their son Antonio GODINES was baptized 25 Mar 1685 in Ocotlan, Jalisco and married 6 Mar 1707, in La Barca to Manuela de LOMELIN, who was the daughter of Juan Baptista de OROSCO and Beatris VASQUES. > > I have done extensive research in the past 30 plus years. I would be interested in hearing about your lines of GODINEZ. There is also another family of Godinez that was living in the Ranchoviejo area of Atotonilco el Alto. That is now the village of Santa Elena, I believe.> > I have a number of BRIONES names. They are not on my husband's direct line but

I am related to the Godinez family coming out of La Barca.

Daniel Briones> Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2008 12:16:25 -0800> From: canprin@yahoo.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] La Barca Jalisco Briseño, GODINEZ, BARRAGAN> > Tuesday, Nov 11, 2008> > Dear Canito--> > I am going to Santa Rita, Ayotlan, Jalisco, for one week at the end of November. One of the names you are apparently interested in is Briseno and so am I. Here is what I have:> > Atilano GODINEZ son of> Claudio GODINEZ and Casimira MACIEL> > Married 11 Nov 1858 in La Barca, Jalisco, to> > Paula BRISENO daughter of> > Antonio BRISENO and Andrea JIMENEZ> > Children of Atilano and Paula:> > 1. Maria Florencia GODINEZ baptized 28 Oct 1861 in Ayo el Chico> > 2. Maria Placida GODINEZ baptized 13 Oct 1867 in Ayo el Chico > > 3. Maria Delfina GODINEZ baptized 30 Dec 1869 in Ayo el Chico> mar. to Ysabel BRISENO son of Tomas BRICENO and Ysabel NAVARRO> child of Ysabel and Delfina was:> Jose Margarito