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I just put it on hold at my library. Marge:)

On Dec 23, 2005, at 5:51 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

just watched a great video called Spain: Castles, Cathedras, and Roman

Ruins. If you are subscribed to the Blockbuster rental program it is

available on that. I don't know if you can get it at a regular

blockbuster. it goes all around Spain showing the oldest architecture

and giving some of the history behind it.



joseph









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just watched a great video called Spain: Castles, Cathedras, and Roman
Ruins. If you are subscribed to the Blockbuster rental program it is
available on that. I don't know if you can get it at a regular
blockbuster. it goes all around Spain showing the oldest architecture
and giving some of the history behind it.

joseph

I don't mind sending it out to all.

David

-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: Joseph Puentes <makas@...>
>Sent: Dec 23, 2005 2:07 PM
>To: "David P. Delgado" <dpdelgado@...>
>Subject: Re: Puentes/Puente question
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>this is good stuff. . .I can see that if the way people held their 
>tongues was different then also the way they heard and understood and 
>tried to interpret certain sounds both in their pronunciation and 
>writing was subject to a variety of errors. yes it is not so simple as 
>just "they were illiterate and wrote things any way they felt like at 
>the time."
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>thanks much. . .you bring to the group a much needed perpective and 
>valuable education. please use it as often as your time will allow. And 
>my invitation to create an audio file for the NFU podcast will continue 
>to patiently wait for your submission. thank you.
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>joseph
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>ps: if you want to repost this to the group I'd welcome it but you decide.
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>David P. Delgado wrote:
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>>Joseph,
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>>In my response I left off a phenomenon which is very widespread in determinng surname usage: regional differences in articulation.  That is, people from different regions say the same words in different ways.  A common variation in Spanish occurs with the final "s" in all words.  In the castilian dialect, final 's' sounds like 'sh' in English.  In the Americas, 's' has more of a hiss to it and the tongue constricts the air passage at about midway along the palate.  In the castilian dialect, the tongue tip curls under the tongue.  A third alternative is the so-called aspirated 's'.  This is a third position of the tongue relative to the palate.  The backmost part of the tongue constricts the air passage way toward the back of the upper mouth (velum).  It's typical for this third way of saying words to result in dropping off the final 's' when reducing the word/name to writing.
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My father's name was Agapito, when he joined the Navy, everyone called
him "Joe", when he came home everyone in the family started calling
him "Daddy Joe". When I married and had a son, (my husband's family
always names the first boy after the two grandfathers)my dad did not
want his grandson named "Agapito" so we named him "D.J." after Daddy
Joe (Agapito) and my son's name is Russell D.J. My father's mother was
"Baldomera",she had other names (which no one remembers) but she went
by "Baldomera". My Mom's grandfather's name was "Pantaleon Fuentes" (
I just found out) which I am researching in Jalisco.
Feliz Navidad to all! Hilda

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "elviraz" <elviraz@e...> wrote: 

     If you can get it in your area, try to watch a novela called  'Alborada".  It's a historical 
novel about Mexico during the early 1800s.  It'll give you a good idea of Mexico during that 
time. There are other historical novelas about Mexico you can either get on tape or CD. 
 
Elvira,

I am interested in your historical novel and other historical CDs. What source do you use to 
purchase these items? I could not find "Alborada" on Amazon or Libros Latinos.

Thanks,

Ed

I like 2/18/05...Mexican food
the Locations you chose are good, too!
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> From: lareina2@...
> Date: 2005/12/23 Fri AM 02:26:39 EST
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ranchos] IMPORTANT! RE: SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA MEETING
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Finally, here's the list of interested members (although I know some of you expressed an interest in Central CA) for confirmation:

Rosalinda Ruiz

Peggy Delgado

Alicia Carrillo

Deena Ortiz

Helyn

Finally, here's the list of interested members (although I know some of you expressed an interest in Central CA) for confirmation:

Rosalinda Ruiz

Peggy Delgado

Alicia Carrillo

Deena Ortiz

Helyn

Albert

Olivia

Jose Macias

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From: ranchos@...om
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Subject: Re: [ranchos]
Southern California Meeting

I too would like to attend
a Southern Cal. Meeting .I live  Claremont ,Southern Calif. about 30 east
of Los Angeles and 30 mil;es west of San Bernardino. Let me knw .
Ronnie
Reynoso ,pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco

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>I would try; it depends
on the date.  I live in Rancho Cucamonga in southern
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I too would like to attend a Southern Cal. Meeting .I live  Claremont ,Southern Calif. about 30 east of Los Angeles and 30 mil;es west of San Bernardino. Let me knw .
Ronnie Reynoso ,pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco

-----Original Message-----
>From: Deena Ortiz <drortiz@...>
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>Subject: Re: [ranchos] Southern California Meeting
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>I would try; it depends on the date.  I live in Rancho Cucamonga in southern 
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I have read lots, of messages about oral histories, here on Ranchos. 
I just wanted to say, record those histories.  So that they are not
lost, to the future generations.

I say this, because recently I took, on some new clients, whose
ancestry is about 80% comanche indians.  With a few ancestors, who
where Mexican or spanish captives, that were captured and raised by
the comanches, during the early 1800's.  All that they have to work
with, is oral histories.  The comanches did not have a written
language, until they were bought, into the reservations.  And when a
person dies, they don't speak the person's name again.

So, like I said.  Record your oral histories, so that you posterity,
can know them, and can get to know you.

Jonathan

As Joseph, mentioned in this email,  I am in the process, of updating
my Mexican Family History Resoucre disk.  There were several problems, 
with the prior version, such as links not working and a few other
things.  These are being corrected, also  I am removing lots, of the
material, that was written by others, and replacing it, with material
that I have written myself.  The reason, that I am doing this, is
because, I am in the procress, of trying to get the disc, approved for
use in the FHL in Salt Lake.

For those, who would like a copy of the new version.  It will be
available, in about a week.  The cost is $10.00, that is to cover,
cost of producing the disc and shipping.

Jonathan

Also, Those of you who have received, the prior version.  Could you
please send a email, to the group saying what you have thought about
the disc.


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
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> here is a message Jonathan sent to his Mexican FHR group. I've invited 
> him before to announce this on Ranchos so maybe I beat him to it. In 
> another email to his group he stated that the cost is $10.
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> good information here with many many hours of work done to put it 
> together. contact him directly if you want one.
> 
> joseph
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> ps: also for those that are researching outside of our target area this 
> group is a good one to join. Jonathan has been and continues to be very 
> helpful.
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> Subject: 	[mexicanfhr] Mexican FHR Resource disk
> Date: 	Sat, 17 Dec 2005 01:09:16 +0000
> From: 	mexicanfhr <mexicanfhr@p...>
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> To: 	mexicanfhr@yahoogroups.com
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> I am updating, my Mexican resouce disc, and the new version will be
> ready in about two weeks.  Those who, would like a copy of the new
> version, please let me know.  
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145 messages in the last 7 days!!!  WOW!!!  I can't imagine what this 
site is going to be like during the next week.  Joseph, you better run 
for cover!!!


John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.