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Joseph; With enough interested parties, $100 may not be necessary. I know a family that contributes $25 each to do their family line per month. If there was a coordinated effort to line up all parties/surnames and locations then it would be possible for the searcher to do each line and make a good living. Do you agree ?  I wonder if this is a practicable suggestion. Arturo may be on to something and if it works out then a link will have been established that we all can follow. We would need to see the film documentation or it would be valueless.
I would like to hear your take on the matter as I think that this could blossom.

Jose Luis Macias
decendant of Francisco Macias, of Jerez, Zacatecas

-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes <makas@...>
Sent: Dec 4, 2005 11:46 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Arturo Ramos <arturo.ramos2@...>
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Researcher for Zacatecas

Arturo what do you suppose a figure would be for this monthly stipend? 
Are you thinking that several of us that might be interested could 
contribute to come up with this monthly stipend? Did you get an idea of 
what he was talking about?

I wonder how many hours of research $100 would buy me? Well that is all 
I'd be willing to contribute. I have a dead end in Zacatecas, Zacatecas 
I need "advice" in knowing how to get around.

let me know if you think this would buy me something and if so I'll send 
you 5 scanned records that will give you the information he will need to 
do my preliminary investigation.

joseph



Arturo Ramos wrote:

>I have been corresponding with this man for the last week and I will 
>be meeting with him during my upcoming trip to Mexico.  He has 
>proposed doing research in the Zacatecas state archives for a monthly 
>stipend.  I was wondering if there is anybody who is intereste and 
>would be willing to "try him out".  His name is Leonardo de La Torre 
>Berumen and he is the municipal archivist in Jerez.
>
>From: leonardo de la torre [mailto:leon_torre@...] 
>Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 8:21 PM
>To: arturo_ramos@...
>Subject: RE: Investigaciones Genealogicas
>
>Señor Ramos si gusta nos vemos en Colotlàn, porque a
>Zacatecas se hacen como 2 horas y media de distancia,
>lo que le pediria si gusta que platiquemos largo y
>tendido como decimos los mexicanos puedo quedarme allà
>en hotel, no se con comida pasaje y hotel le parecen

Hi Maria,

Thank you for your interest.

I have a letter written by my mother in 1941-42 on La Sultana
letterhead. She and my dad, Ramon Romero, spent several months with
my dad's relatives in and around Guadalajara after their marriage in
Oct., 1941 and returning to the USA before May, 1942. They mainly
stayed on one or another of Adolfo's ranches. I've been told the
family (de la Torre) owned this chocolateria (or chocolate factory as
my mother called it). My mother wrote to her aunt in Minnesota on
this letterhead.

I am searching any clues I can find to reconnect me with my father's
family. It seems easier to find the dead that any living relatives.
I am hoping to trace the ownership of the chocolateria to someone
living who may remember my dad and have family information for me.

My Spanish is slim to none so my research is slow. I would
appreciate any information your family may have on this place or my
family. My pedigree is posted to ranchos. If you need any more
information, please let me know. Thank you for your offer to help.

Linda

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
> 
> I remember seen a definition of cerro as backbone, or espinazo. 
Cerros means a small mountain.  It goes: Loma, cerro, montaña y
sierra, degrees according to size.  Sierra means "saw" as the tool the
carpenters use.  The name  "sierra" was given to the mountain chain
because they resemble the teeth of a  saw. There is only one Sierra
Nevada, it was named for its snow covered peaks.  I just cringe when I
hear statements in the media such as:  "Great week-end to visit the
sierras"  TV people  (professionals?)  Should know that there is only
one "Sierra" .

Right, John.  Unless they're referring to México's sierras.  ;-)

http://www.galeon.com/cumbres/Archivos/orografia.htm

This is the kind of question that Leonardo de la Torre Berumen could answer. My ancestress, Clara de los Reyes, married Francisco de Chaves Banuelos in Jerez around 1720 or 25. I have no other info on her at all. I wonder if she's related to Maria Josefa? Marge:)



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I have been corresponding with this man for the last week and I will 
be meeting with him during my upcoming trip to Mexico.  He has 
proposed doing research in the Zacatecas state archives for a monthly 
stipend.  I was wondering if there is anybody who is intereste and 
would be willing to "try him out".  His name is Leonardo de La Torre 
Berumen and he is the municipal archivist in Jerez.

From: leonardo de la torre [mailto:leon_torre@...] 
Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 8:21 PM
To: arturo_ramos@...
Subject: RE: Investigaciones Genealogicas

Señor Ramos si gusta nos vemos en Colotlàn, porque a
Zacatecas se hacen como 2 horas y media de distancia,
lo que le pediria si gusta que platiquemos largo y
tendido como decimos los mexicanos puedo quedarme allà
en hotel, no se con comida pasaje y hotel le parecen
unos 800 pesos en moneda mexicana, y ya si le interesa
el trabajo, puedo trabajarle a Usted por mensualidades
de 200 dolares para sacarle todo lo que le interese
sobre familias que tengan que ver con las del sur de
zacatecas, es decir de Colotlàn, Huejuquilla el Alto,
Huejucar, Mezquitic y Monte Escobedo. Porque ese
precio porque esto lo hago en mis ratos libres y
realmente me llevo buen tiempo haciendolo, yaque mi
trabajo me absorve mucho pues estoy al frente del
Archivo Historico Municipal de Jerez y es buen
compromiso dirigir ese espacio,asì es que por ello
pongo este precio por que tengo otras ocupaciones,
tambièn le trabajo asi de modo mensual a un miembro de
la Academia de Heraldica y Genealogia de la Ciudad de
Mèxico. Otra cosa a lomejor Usted pasa por Jerez,porqe
es la pasada para ir a Colotlàn,si viene por tierra es
decir en vehiculo, solo que se venga por avion a
Guadalajara y de Guadalajara a Colotlàn por vehiculo,
y si llega al Aeropuerto de Calera, si debe pasar por
Jerez. Porque esta via es Calera, Jerez, Tepetongo,
Huejucar, Colotlan y Tlaltengo, que tambièn es un
lugar muy importante para algunos genealogistas, pues
es un pueblo de indios fundado desde 1542, y contiene
archivo desde 1626, muy rico acervo que ya he
consultado en varios momentos. 
Sin màssuamigo Leo. Digame el dia y la hora en que nos
veamos en colotlàn, ahi tengo dos grandes amigas
Lasmaestras de Leòn que pueden recibirnos, ellas tiene
un grupo de protecciòn de monumentos coloniales

This year, Emilie, broke through the ole adobe wall, and cleared the way for my Robles line. I had been attempting to find this line for about 8 years. Prior to the inception of the Rancho Group, Emilie also made assisted me with my Magallanas line...I second the motion.

Hi Emilie:

 

You are right!!! The Genealogy Gods are  still
with me and you must be one of their Angels!

If we had a prize or title "Researcher of the Year"  I would certainly nominate you for  it.  The things you do are  nothing short of AMAZING.!!!

 

That IS my grandfather from Pánuco, Zacatecas.  I knew it the instant I saw the last name  "Godina".

 

Thank you.

1gnzlz@...

----- Original Message -----

From: href="mailto:auntyemfaustus@...">Emilie Garcia

To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Sunday, December 04, 2005 2:52 PM

Subject: [ranchos] Priciliano Cerro Godina