(See attached file: Invitation to 8th Policy Forum.pdf)
On behalf of the Planning Committee for the Binational Policy Forum on
Migration and Health please find attached an invitation to the VII
Saludos a todos los amigos de Nuestros Ranchos:
Como quedé les escribo para platicarles como nos fué en Europa.
Hace dos semanas que regresamos, visitamos familiares en Alemania y seguimos nuestra labor genealógica tocante a los antepasados de mi esposo Guenter en Silesia, Alemania hasta 1945, Polonia desde entonces. Esta vez más que a investigar, fuimos a recoger frutos, pues como resultado del trabajo intenso de 8 años, hace 6 años, encontramos un palacio que fué de un tío bisabuelo suyo, dos años más tarde y por medio del internet, la bisnieta de éste señor contactó a mi marido, preguntando por el palacio y la posibilidad de parentesco. Por esas fechas una familia polaca y para nosotros desconocida, compró el palacio y también le escribió a Guenter con el deseo de conocerlo y enterarse de la familia que habitó el dicho palacio hasta fines de la II Guerra Mundial o sea su tío bisabuelo. Desde entonces hemos estado en contacto con la Familia Leda (nuevos dueños del palacio) y por iniciativa de ellos, se celebró éste año una reunión de las dos familias. Los Leda de Polonia y dos ramas de los Boehm, la nuestra con miembros en USA, Alemania y México y los decendientes directos del Mayor Gustav Böhm dueño del placio de 1889 a 1945, que actualmente viven en Namibia, Sudafrica, Alemania y USA. Todos estuvimos muy contentos.
I am posting on this forum as my inquiry is more general than specific.
I have been sporadically viewing LDS film # 0654983 - "Registro Parroquiales - San Juan Bautiista, Sombrerete, Zacatecas: Matrimonios, 1793-1854". My original search was to find marriage information for Julio Duenas (~ over the n) and Maria Guadalupe Duran. The record shows that they were married on 29 May 1853. Julio (b. about 1831) was the son of Victor Duenas and Manuela Gutierrez. Ma. Guadalupe was the daughter of Don Luis Duran and Dona (~ over the n) Lorenza Rodriguiz.
Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 16:42:15 -0400From: makas@nc.rr.comTo: bensinai@hotmail.comSubject: Re: Comments
manda este correo a research@nuestrosranchos.org y vamos a ver si hay alguno en el grupo que esta haciendo investigacion en San Miguel y con los apellidos que buscas.joseph====================Joseph Puenteshttp://h2opodcast.com (Environment Podcast)http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes Genealogy)Rodolfo Sinaí Gómez wrote:
Count me in the group, if any, to buy Don Mariano Gonzalez-Leal´s new Retonos... my way for pay is a deposit if there is a bank account. Thanks, Leticia Leon
no hay mas libros retoños de españa de don Mariano Gonzalez leal,el esta terminando una nueva edicion que consta de 11 libros,el quedo de decirme cuando esten a la venta , yo les avisare.
iam writing in spanish because my english is not to good,i hope you understand.
Ruben Casillas M.
--- El lun 11-ago-08, Marionicia escribió:
De:: Marionicia
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] I am willing to buy the new Retonos de España also
A: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Fecha: lunes, 11 agosto, 2008, 6:28 pm
Count me in the group, if any, to buy Don Mariano Gonzalez-Leal´s new
Retonos... my way for pay is a deposit if there is a bank account. Thanks,
Leticia Leon
Hola Ruben Casillas:
Yo asisti a la conferencia del Doctor Mariano Gonzalez Leal donde presento
los 7 (SIETE) tomos de su nueva edicion de "Retoños de España en la Nueva
Galicia", siempre se mencionaron 7 tomos, no 11.
Porque Ruben, afirmas que son 11 (ONCE) tomos y no 7 como el propio
Don Mariano nos lo informo?.
Espero tu respuesta:
Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez.
El día 12 de agosto de 2008 5:31, ruben casillas moreno
escribió:
> no hay mas libros retoños de españa de don Mariano Gonzalez leal,el esta terminando una nueva edicion que consta de 11 libros,el quedo de decirme cuando esten a la venta , yo les avisare.
> iam writing in spanish because my english is not to good,i hope you understand.
>
> Ruben Casillas M.
>
> --- El lun 11-ago-08, Marionicia escribió:
>
> De:: Marionicia
> Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] I am willing to buy the new Retonos de España also
> A: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Fecha: lunes, 11 agosto, 2008, 6:28
I do refer to that new edition of 11 volumes.
Si, me refiero a esa nueva edición de 11 volúmenes.
Gracias.
--- El mar 12-ago-08, ruben casillas moreno escribió:
De:: ruben casillas moreno
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] I am willing to buy the new Retonos de España also
A: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Fecha: martes, 12 agosto, 2008, 6:31 am
no hay mas libros retoños de españa de don Mariano Gonzalez leal,el esta
terminando una nueva edicion que consta de 11 libros,el quedo de decirme cuando
esten a la venta , yo les avisare.
iam writing in spanish because my english is not to good,i hope you understand.
Ruben Casillas M.
--- El lun 11-ago-08, Marionicia escribió:
De:: Marionicia
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] I am willing to buy the new Retonos de España also
A: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Fecha: lunes, 11 agosto, 2008, 6:28 pm
Count me in the group, if any, to buy Don Mariano Gonzalez-Leal´s new
Retonos... my way for pay is a deposit if there is a bank account. Thanks
Stuart,
I found some Platt books at: www.familyhistoryland.com/books.htm . I don't know if they still have them. If you can't find them, I could copy some sections out of my book (if you read Spanish) and mail them to you. My copy of the book is stamped on the back "Hispanic American Genealogical Association, PO Box 2650, Salt Lake City, UT 84110-2650", but I couldn't find that Association listed in the yellow pages.
Don Mariano Gonzalez Leal attended the conference at Valle de Gudalupe, Jalisco, held on August 2. He brought with him a proof set of his latest publication which will consist of 7 volumes:
#1-Historia y Antropologia
#2-Araiza---Cano
#3-Carlin---Garcia de Cuevas
#4-Garcia de Hermosillo---Guillen
#5-Gutierrez Coronado---Manso de Zuñiga
#6-Marin de Pedroza---Ramirez de Mendoza
#7-Ramirez de Olivas---Zubieta.
As for the cost, he said that it would be up to the Casa Editorial (printer/publisher) to set the cost.
Don Mariano had just received the books a couple of days before the conference for his review and approval. He mentioned that they could possibly be available to the public before the end of this year or early 2009.
The proof set of books is not only very attractive, but also made of high quality materials and the printing is excellent. I hope the same quality will carry through the production process. They average about 2 inches in thickness.
John Gonzalez
1gnzlz@verizon
John, maybe we can as a group, encourage Don Mariano Gonzalez Leal to accept orders from Nuestros Ranchos members as priority or maybe we can set up within ourselves an order and verify and get commitments so we can convey this interest to him. I have his e-mail which I cannot give out but maybe he gave out a method of communications to people at the meeting.
Miggy
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From: John Gonzalez
To: Research Nuestros Ranchos
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 1:44 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Books
Information:
Don Mariano Gonzalez Leal attended the conference at Valle de Gudalupe, Jalisco, held on August 2. He brought with him a proof set of his latest publication which will consist of 7 volumes:
#1-Historia y Antropologia
#2-Araiza---Cano
#3-Carlin---Garcia de Cuevas
#4-Garcia de Hermosillo---Guillen
#5-Gutierrez Coronado---Manso de Zuñiga
#6-Marin de Pedroza---Ramirez de Mendoza
#7-Ramirez de Olivas---Zubieta.
As for the cost
If Don Mariano does decide to have as a priority, count me in I will be glad to purchase all at the same time! -Daniel Méndez del Camino, still looking for Retoños Vol I and II. I found at $100 thery're both Volume I though, it appears Vol II is too difficult to find. Any help?
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Daniel, help me find a way to guarantee a number and method of payment then I can communicate it to Don Mariano Gonzalez leal.
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From: Daniel Mendez
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 2:05 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Books
If Don Mariano does decide to have as a priority, count me in I will be glad to purchase all at the same time! -Daniel Méndez del Camino, still looking for Retoños Vol I and II. I found at $100 thery're both Volume I though, it appears Vol II is too difficult to find. Any help?
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Hello Miggy and Daniel,
I bought my books, tomo 1 and 2 from Rick Rodriguez threw Paypal.
He is the one who organized the meeting so I believe he would be the correct person to ask about the books.
I would be willing also like Daniel to buy all the books at once.
Sofia
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Thanks for the advice! I am waiting until Rick gets more copies, than I will buy them also from paypal. Currently he ran out about 1 week ago. -Daniel
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Daniel, I believe that we are interested in the upcoming series of books- a set of about 6.
THE RETONOS II, may be outdated when the new set comes out. I am only interested in the new set.
----- Original Message -----
From: Daniel Mendez
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 10:40 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Books
Thanks for the advice! I am waiting until Rick gets more copies, than I will buy them also from paypal. Currently he ran out about 1 week ago. -Daniel
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I want to purchase both sets, since I still don't have the others, i am still interested in obtaining these infamous books, they print is gone, so there are only a handful out there for sale by private. -I have 3 reliable sources where to buy at least volume 1 and of course Rick usually gets both volumes. I am also interested in buying the upcoming 7 volumes of the new Retoños. It is hard to believe these new books should have about 30 years of research in them, no wonder their so thick! Since retoños I came out in the 80's. Even before I was born! -daniel
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Hi Daniel:
I attended the conference at Valle de Guadalupe. During the conference
about 2o copies of "Retoños Vol 1" were delivered to Dr. Mariano Gonzalez
Leal. I was able to buy a copy at that time. I imagine he took the rest of
them back to Guanajuato with him.
I asked Dr. Mariano about the cost of the books and his answer was that he
had no idea, that it was up to the Casa Editorial (publisher) to set the
price and handle the marketing and distribution of the books. We will just
going to have to wait until they are released to the public sometime toward
the end of this year or the early part of 2009.
The books had been printed in Tapatitlan, which is just South of Valle de
Guadalupe. I believe this is the same source that Rick Rodriguez uses, you
might want to contact him.
John Gonzalez.
> Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 09:59:19 -0700> From: 1gnzlz@verizon.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Books> > Hi Daniel:> > I attended the conference at Valle de Guadalupe. During the conference > about 2o copies of "Retoños Vol 1" were delivered to Dr. Mariano Gonzalez > Leal. I was able to buy a copy at that time. I imagine he took the rest of > them back to Guanajuato with him.> > I asked Dr. Mariano about the cost of the books and his answer was that he > had no idea, that it was up to the Casa Editorial (publisher) to set the > price and handle the marketing and distribution of the books. We will just > going to have to wait until they are released to the public sometime toward > the end of this year or the early part of 2009.> > The books had been printed in Tapatitlan, which is just South of Valle de > Guadalupe. I believe this is the same source that Rick Rodriguez uses, you > might want to contact him.> > John Gonzalez.> > > > > > -- -- -- -- -- --
I guess we need to try to figure out whether Diego Alonso de Hermosillo married to (1) Luisa Nava and (2) Juana Alderete is the same individual, or father an son. This would leave the question: Who is Diego Alonso Pedrozo y Hermosillo married to Paula de Torres?
Jaime, it happens that Diego Alonso Ramirez del Pedrozo b- abt 1598 (grandfather) and Paula Torres(Grandmother) b- abt 1602 had your mentioned kids.
----- Original Message -----
From: alvaradj@comcast.net
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2008 9:02 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Confusion
For Diego Alonso Pedroso y Hermosillo and Paula de Torres I had:
Diego Alonso de Hermosillo(Father to Diego Alonso de Hermosillo)
Agustin de Hermosillo
Matias Gonzalez
Maria de Hermosillo
Isabel Ramires
Paula Torres
Nicolas Ramirez
So if Diego did not married twice (Luisa de Nava and then to Juan Alderete) what happens to all these guys?
Jaime
-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: "Miggy GUTIERREZ" >
> John, it seems that way. Diego and Luisa's other kids are Diego alonso b-1646,
> Catarina Gonzalez de hermosillob-1648, Capitan Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo
> b-1649, Francisco Ramires de Hermosillo b
Saturday, July 26, 2008
These are the notes that I have for Jeronimo de
OROZCO. I have his birth as about 1520 in Sevilla,
Espana, from my good friend Hugo Moises in Capilla de
Guadalupe and Guadalajara. He sent the birth info in
Hi Patricia et al, can anyone tell me about Martin? Here is what I have
Descendants of Martin Tello De Orozco
1 Martin Tello De Orozco
.. +Antonia Sotto
.. 2 Juana Tello b: January 26, 1697/98
...... +Domingo Saldana Garcia Ruiz De Esparza b: February 24, 1677/78
....... 3 Maria Leonarda Tello Esparza b: November 06, 1720
....... 3 Lorenzo Jose Tello Esparza b: March 21, 1721/22
thanks, phyls esparza
----- Original Message -----
From: "patricia burton"
To:
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2008 10:55 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Notes on Senor Doctor Don Jeronimo de
Orozco(Judge)
> Saturday, July 26, 2008
>
> These are the notes that I have for Jeronimo de
> OROZCO. I have his birth as about 1520 in Sevilla,
> Espana, from my good friend Hugo Moises in Capilla de
> Guadalupe and Guadalajara. He sent the birth info in
> 2001.
>
>
> Retonos de Espana en La Nueva Galacia
> por Mariano GONZALEZ-Leal, Tomo 1:
>
> Page 17...En los ultimos lustros del siglo XVI, la
> Real
Hi Patricia I was amased as to this person Manuel Camino! Do you have any info on him possibly in Retoños de España? Thanks. I guess my grandfather was right "Los Caminos fueron de importancia a España! Thanks! -Daniel
El testimonio que tengo a la vista se encuentra enun expediente formado a solicitud de donManuel-Silvestre Perez de Camino, Caballero deSantiago y Contador Honorario del Real Tribunal yAudiencia de Cuentas de la Nueva Espana, quien en 1752era dueno de las tierras objeto de la antigua merced; expediente en el que se hallan constancias,testimonios y documentos, que asientan ser copiasfieles de los originales (12). Para 1752, las tierrasse demoninaban "los Huajes, Charcon, Cruces yCorientes" (13).
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Sunday, July 27, 2008
Dear Daniel--
Sorry, I can't help you with this lookup. My Retonos
de Espana are in La Biblioteca de Victoria, Santa
Rita, Jalisco. I am in the process of sending all my
Hispanic research materials to that little reading
library.
What I have in San Diego are my files and assorted
Microfilm on Indefinite Loan. I like the fact that
because of Nuestros Ranchos, we can help one another
to fill in the gaps. I do have one more big piece of
information from another set of books that are also in
La Biblioteca de Victoria. I will send that along
shortly.
My best to you. Hasta la vista.
Sincerely,
Patricia Diane Burton
San Diego, Ca.
--- Daniel Mendez wrote:
>
> Hi Patricia I was amased as to this person Manuel
> Camino! Do you have any info on him possibly in
> Retoños de España? Thanks. I guess my grandfather
> was right "Los Caminos fueron de importancia a
> España! Thanks! -Daniel
>
> El testimonio que tengo a la vista se encuentra enun
> expediente
John, once you create an account and view the photos, will you be able to add captions so that we know who's who? That would really be nice, to know who's in each picture and we can see the people from Nuestros Ranchos.
Hola a todos los amigos genealogistas:
Solo para informar que acabo de subir a mi pagina de MySpace
las 177 fotos que tome en el !er. Encuentro del grupo "Nuestros
Ranchos" con la Conferencia Genial del Dr. Don Mariano Gonzalez
No me encontré las fotos en Myspace.
Juan Ramon Alvarez
--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez wrote:
From: Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Fotos de la 1a. Reuniion Grupo Nuestros Ranchos
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org, Genealogia-Mexico@googlegroups.com, genealogia.org.mx@gmail.com, general@nuestrosranchos.org, genealogia-mexico-occidente@googlegroups.com
Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 7:25 AM
Hola a todos los amigos genealogistas:
Solo para informar que acabo de subir a mi pagina de MySpace
las 177 fotos que tome en el !er. Encuentro del grupo "Nuestros
Ranchos" con la Conferencia Genial del Dr. Don Mariano Gonzalez
Leal donde presento los 7 Tomos definitivos de su Gran Obra
"Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia" que tentativamente
saldra a la venta en Enero Proximo, este magno evento fue
organizado por Ricardo Rodriguez Camarena, al que vuelvo a
felicitar por su excelente organizacion del evento.
Ya Ricardo se encargara de poner
Hola Juan Ramon:
Ya que entraste a mi Perfil, abajo de mi Foto dice: "FOTOS", pincha alli
y te lleva a mis albums de Fotos, el ultimo con 177 fotos es la de la Reunion
de Nuestros Ranchos.
Saludos desde Guadalajara: Alex
El día 8 de agosto de 2008 10:51, Juan Ramón Alvarez
escribió:
> No me encontré las fotos en Myspace.
> Juan Ramon Alvarez
>
> --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez wrote:
>
> From: Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Fotos de la 1a. Reuniion Grupo Nuestros Ranchos
> To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org, Genealogia-Mexico@googlegroups.com, genealogia.org.mx@gmail.com, general@nuestrosranchos.org, genealogia-mexico-occidente@googlegroups.com
> Date: Friday, August 8, 2008, 7:25 AM
>
> Hola a todos los amigos genealogistas:
>
> Solo para informar que acabo de subir a mi pagina de MySpace
> las 177 fotos que tome en el !er. Encuentro del grupo "Nuestros
> Ranchos" con la Conferencia Genial del Dr. Don Mariano
Dice "pics" abajo de tu foto. Vas a poner "captions" ? Todos los fotos tienen el mismo "caption" (descripcion).
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA.
----- Original Message -----
From: Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org ; alvarezdmezcala@yahoo.com
Sent: Friday, August 08, 2008 9:20 AM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Fotos de la 1a. Reuniion Grupo NuestrosRanchos
Hola Juan Ramon:
Ya que entraste a mi Perfil, abajo de mi Foto dice: "FOTOS", pincha alli
y te lleva a mis albums de Fotos, el ultimo con 177 fotos es la de la Reunion
de Nuestros Ranchos.
Saludos desde Guadalajara: Alex
El día 8 de agosto de 2008 10:51, Juan Ramón Alvarez
> escribió:
> No me encontré las fotos en Myspace.
> Juan Ramon Alvarez
>
> --- On Fri, 8/8/08, Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez > wrote:
>
> From: Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gómez >
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Fotos de la 1a. Reuniion Grupo Nuestros Ranchos
> To
Hola Tomás:
A mi tampoco me fue posible ver las fotos. Pinché abajo de tu foto y se me
presentó una pagina donde requieren que me subscriba a "You tube" para
poder ver las fotos.
Yo atendí la conferencia en Valle de Guadalupe y me gustaría poder verlas.
Gracias.
Juan Gonzalez.
1gnzlz@verizon.net
John,
If you don't have a myspace account, it won't allow you to see people's photos. Just create an account which should take about 5 minutes, then you can access and view people's photos and postings.
----- Original Message ----
From: John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@verizon.net>
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, August 9, 2008 3:28:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Fotos de la 1a. Reuniion Grupo Nuestros Ranchos
Hola Tomás:
A mi tampoco me fue posible ver las fotos. Pinché abajo de tu foto y se me
presentó una pagina donde requieren que me subscriba a "You tube" para
poder ver las fotos.
Yo atendí la conferencia en Valle de Guadalupe y me gustaría poder verlas.
Gracias.
Juan Gonzalez.
1gnzlz@verizon.net
John,
the box to click on to create an account was hard to find. It is way over on the right; I had to move the bar on the bottom to see it. Then once you create the account, you have to bring up MySpace and find the "vigotal" account. I typed "vigotal" somewhere (in Search?) and his account and photos came up. I wish he would change the captions. They all have the same caption and you don't know where they are or who they are.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
----- Original Message -----
From: Alicia Carrillo
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2008 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Fotos de la 1a. Reuniion Grupo NuestrosRanchos
John,
If you don't have a myspace account, it won't allow you to see people's photos. Just create an account which should take about 5 minutes, then you can access and view people's photos and postings.
----- Original Message ----
From: John Gonzalez 1gnzlz@verizon.net>
To: announce@nuestrosranchos
Thank you Emilie for your advice. I do want to see the pictures because I
attended the conference. I'll go ahead and create an account.
John Gonzalez.
From: "Emilie Garcia"
John,
the box to click on to create an account was hard to find...
Hola John, Alice and Emilie:
Gracias por su interes en las fotos, y gracias a Alice y Emilie pr
aclarar las dudas y orientar
a John, y si por favor, las personas que reconozcan en las fotos
pongan sus "Captions" o
simplemente dejen el comentario en la respectiva foto, solo diciendo
por ejemplo:
"En esta foto, la persona de pie con camisa verde es John Gonzalez,
miembro del grupo
Nuestros Ranchos desde el año de 2004, que reside en la Ciudad de Los
Angeles, California,
USA, autor del libro "Ancestros de John Gonzalez", historiador y
Genealogista dedicao a
kla Region de los Altos de Jalisco"
Con sus comentarios o "Captions" pueden dar luz sobre las personas
en las Fotos, espero
que lea esto tambien Rick Rodriguez y nos ayude tambien en esto de
"Reconocer" a las
personas en las Fotos, ya que considero que el como el organizador del
mismo, debe ser
la persona que mas reconoce a las personas, ademas de que tiene en su
poder el REGISTRO
de las personas que asistieron a la
Thank you Alicia, I will follow your advice. I just didn't want to have
another account and password to add to my list.
John Gonzalez.
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John,
If you don't have a myspace account, it won't allow you to see people's
photos. Just create an account which should take about 5 minutes, then you
can access and view people's photos and postings.
I have find an interesting data in the familysearch site, it contains records from 1723 to 1866,
Source Call No. 1151102, Batch M602335, Marriages and Births, the place is San Diego De Alejandría, Jal.
Thanks, everybody!
Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California
is there a Santa Barbara, Jalisco???? I know of one in Chihuahua. IF
there is one what is it close too?
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from the Pueblos america site. Thses are the Santa Barbara locations in
Jalisco:
Localidades de Tepatitlán de Morelos (Jalisco,
México)
Más
Municipios en el Estado de *Jalisco* *....* *Santa Bárbara* de los Navarro ·
*Santa* María · *Santa* Rosalía · *Santa* Teresa *...*
mexico.pueblosamerica.com/*jalisco*/tepatitlan-de-morelos/
Localidades de Encarnación de Díaz (Jalisco,
México)
Más
Municipios en el Estado de *Jalisco* *....* *Santa Bárbara* (Estación
Castro) · *Santa* Cruz · *Santa* Fe · *Santa* Gertrudis · *Santa* Lucía · *
Santa* María de Arriba *...*
mexico.pueblosamerica.com/*jalisco*/encarnacion-de-diaz/
Localidades de Teocaltiche (Jalisco,
México) Más
Municipios en el Estado de *Jalisco* *...* *Santa Bárbara* · *Santa* Rosa ·
Sierrita de los Dolores (La Sierrita) · Teocaltiche · Teocaltitán · Tonalán
(Tonalá) *...*
mexico.pueblosamerica.com/*jalisco*/teocaltiche/
EL MEZQUITE (Mascota,
Jalisco)
*...* El Ojo de Agua · El Pantano de *Santa Bárbara* · El
There is or there was a Santa Bárbara in Arandas, Atenguillo, Atotonilco,
Encarnación de Díaz, Mascota, Mezquitic, San Miguel el Alto, Teocaltiche,
Tepatitlán, Unión de San Antonio, Valle de Guadalupe and Cañadas de Obregón.
Take a pick.
Rick
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De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Joseph
Puentes
Enviado el: Thursday, August 07, 2008 6:18 PM
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Santa Barbara, Jalisco?????
is there a Santa Barbara, Jalisco???? I know of one in Chihuahua. IF
there is one what is it close too?
joseph
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Hello Joseph,
> is there a Santa Barbara, Jalisco???? I know of one in Chihuahua. IF
> there is one what is it close too?
According to Daniel Cosío Villegas' Diccionario Geográfico vol 5 page
134-135 there is
a congregación named Santa Bárbara in Teocaltiche,
an hacienda in Cantón 11 (Teocaltiche) municipalidad de la
Encarnación,
a rancho in cantón 1 (Guadalajara) municipalidad Yahualica,
a rancho in cantón 2 (Lagos) municipalidad de la Unión,
a rancho in cantón 3 (La Barca) municipalidad de Arandes,
a rancho in cantón 3 (La Barca) municipalidad de Tepatitlán,
a rancho in cantón 6 (Autlán) municipalidad de Purificación,
a rancho in cantón 8 (Colotlán) municipalidad de Mezquitic,
a rancho in cantón 10 (Mascota) municipalidad de Atenguillo,
a rancho in cantón 10 (Mascota) municipalidad de Talpa,
a rancho in cantón 11 (Teocaltiche) municipalidad de San Miguel,
a rancho in cantón 11 (Teocaltiche) municipalidad de Teocaltiche.
Which one did you have in mind?
In the Famly History Library Catalog, they have the 1930 Mexican census for
Guadalajara in several films numbered 1507525 thru 1507545. Each listing
reads: Censo 1930 (Leg.--) etc. Can anyone tell me what the Leg. stands
Corrine:
The Leg in those records stands for "legajo" which translates as "dossier" or "file number." It is very common for Mexican archives to catalogue their collection by collection number, box number and then file number. The census is kept at the Archivo General de la Nacion, where it was filmed by LDS so I presume that the numeration refers to the way the cansus tally sheets are catalogued at the Archive.
However, LDS has put all of the images of the 1930 Mexican census online and they can be accessed by State, Municipality and Locality (pueblo or rancho) at:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch
You will need to register for an account, but there does not appear to be any restrictions to registration.
You can then simply click on the "1930 Mexico Census" link and click on the relevant state and municipality.
Thank-you for the information regarding the 1930 Mexican census. I found
out where my mother's family was living in Guadalajara at the time, so I
will have a much easier time finding her baptism record now.
corrine
Fellow listers,
I have also found it to be incomplete, however it is a work in progress, and the most important thing is-
You can save and print the images in the quality of the original right at your computer at any time !
This is the pilot program of the LDS project to digitize their entire microfilm holdings. Even with todays
technology they estimsate it to be a 30 year project
Eric Robledo Edgar
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From: patricia burton
> Dear Rancho Members--
>
> I have used this site with good luck. However, the
> records are not complete. If you do not find family
> members in the different ranchos, towns, etc., do not
> be discouraged. I have the 1930 Census on Microfilm
> for a number of different places in Jalisco and I use
> both of these sources.
>
> Sincerely,
> Patricia Diane Godinez
> AKA Patricia Burton
>
>
> --- eaego@comcast.net wrote:
>
> > Fellow list members,
> >
> > You can go to the LDS Family search here
>
Hey, does anybody know what happened to the 1930 Mexican census on the
family search labs pilot website? I went on there today to browse through
it and it isn't even on the list of collections anymore. Where did it go?
I usually click on it, then click on the state, city, and sector. Then,
once the census record images show up, I type in the page I left off at and
continue on. It has been a great way to find all sorts of people in the
census that I wouldn't find otherwise. Now, the whole thing is gone and
they only show baptisms and marriages, I think deaths, too, but that's it.
Did I miss something?
Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California
Go to:
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#w=0;p=2;c=1…; Date: Thu, 7 Aug 2008 17:01:29 -0700> From: corrine@ardoin.us> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] 1930 Mexican Census> > Hey, does anybody know what happened to the 1930 Mexican census on the> family search labs pilot website?
Go to where it says "world map", next to it it says "view all collections", click and browse.
Greetings from Leticia Leon
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It was probably removed while being updated. It is there now.
Eric Robledo Edgar
On 8/7/08, Corrine Ardoin wrote:
>
> Hey, does anybody know what happened to the 1930 Mexican census on the
> family search labs pilot website? I went on there today to browse through
> it and it isn't even on the list of collections anymore. Where did it go?
> I usually click on it, then click on the state, city, and sector. Then,
> once the census record images show up, I type in the page I left off at and
> continue on. It has been a great way to find all sorts of people in the
> census that I wouldn't find otherwise. Now, the whole thing is gone and
> they only show baptisms and marriages, I think deaths, too, but that's it.
> Did I miss something?
> Corrine Ardoin
> Santa Maria, California
Hola a todos los amigos genealogistas:
Solo para informar que acabo de subir a mi pagina de MySpace
las 177 fotos que tome en el !er. Encuentro del grupo "Nuestros
Ranchos" con la Conferencia Genial del Dr. Don Mariano Gonzalez
I tried to send this to the group a few days ago but didn't see it show
up on the distribution list. some of my messages are not going through.
If anyone else seems to be having this trouble please email me directly
Thanks Joseph and Arturo,
The greatest thank you is what we get from this group.
Alicia
----- Original Message ----
From: Joseph Puentes
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, August 7, 2008 2:46:50 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Volunteer Thanks: Website-Database Skilled Person(s) Needed! ! ! (4)
I tried to send this to the group a few days ago but didn't see it show
up on the distribution list. some of my messages are not going through.
If anyone else seems to be having this trouble please email me directly
to report this issue (makas@nc.rr.com). Here is that previous email:
I want to take a few lines to thanks our great volunteers.
Arturo and I are your moderators and he is way way beyond a moderator as
our website designer/webmaster. thank you Arturo the group would be
nothing like it is today without you.
Spam Commander is being handled very well by Alicia Carrillo, Thank you
Alicia we need all that Spam killed and you are doing a wonderful job of it
I had a similar problem when searching for the Herrera surname around the
same time period. I think it was Arturo who pointed out to me that the Herrera
surname was attached to the surname "Marin de Herrera". Only later, can one
Ruben,
As far as I know, Hernán Flores de la Torre, brother of Diego Flores de la
Torre, 3rd Encomendero de Juchipila, married Ana Alvarez de Sandi in
Teocaltiche, Jalisco. They had the following children:
1) Melchor
2) Diego
3) Pedro
4) Juan
5) Francisco m. Josefa Navarro de Salinas in Aguascalientes 8 Dec 1647
6) Isabel m. Diego Gómez de Portugal y Arrona ca. 1637 in Lagos de Moreno,
Jalisco
7) Hernán m. Juana de Aguilar y Salado 4 Oct 1654 in Aguascalientes
8) Luis m. María de Padilla, aka María Delgadillo
9) Alvaro
10) Tomás
11) Josefa m. Diego Vázquez de Buendía
12) Josefa m. Juan de Vera
13) Ana
14) Angela
15) María m. Juan Jiménez, a native of Seville, Spain.
Some of my information comes from "Fundadores de Nueva Galicia: Guadalajara.
Tomo I" por Guillermo Garmendia Leal. The rest was compiled from church and
civil records.
Who is your Flores de la Torre ancestor? I would like to continue working
on this family. Do you have any additional information? Let me know
Sorry, I made a mistake using cut-and-paste in the previous message. Ana
Flores de la Torre married Juan de Vera (or Juan de la Vera). Please
eliminate the second Josefa in my previous message. The correct information
is as follows:
Ruben,
As far as I know, Hernán Flores de la Torre, brother of Diego Flores de la
Torre, 3rd Encomendero de Juchipila, married Ana Alvarez de Sandi in
Teocaltiche, Jalisco. They had the following children:
1) Melchor
2) Diego
3) Pedro
4) Juan
5) Francisco m. Josefa Navarro de Salinas in Aguascalientes 8 Dec 1647
6) Isabel m. Diego Gómez de Portugal y Arrona ca. 1637 in Lagos de Moreno,
Jalisco
7) Hernán m. Juana de Aguilar y Salado 4 Oct 1654 in Aguascalientes
8) Luis m. María de Padilla, aka María Delgadillo
9) Alvaro
10) Tomás
11) Josefa m. Diego Vázquez de Buendía
12) Ana m. Juan de Vera
13) Angela
14) María m. Juan Jiménez, a native of Seville, Spain.
Some of my information comes from "Fundadores de Nueva Galicia: Guadalajara.
Tomo I" por
Hello Bill,
I have this from Retoños de España:
"El Capitán Hernán Flores -que tenía parentesco con la familia de tambienconquistador
Pedro Pacho - fue originario de Salamanca en España, e hijo de Pedro Fuentes y de
Catalina Flores, hidosdalgo."
Sofia
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Thanks, Sofía. I did have Hernán Flores as the son of Pedro Fuentes and
Catalina Flores. He took the surname from his mother, which was common
practice in the 16th century. He was Alférez Mayor under Nuño de Guzmán and
later promoted to Captain. Also, for those interested, he was previously
married to Isabel de Alvarado, daughter of Gómez de Alvarado, conquistador
de la Nueva España and brother of Pedro de Alvarado, conquistador and first
Adelantado de Guatemala. They were married in 1548 and, as far as I know,
did not have any children.
Take care, Sofía.
Regards,
Bill
----- Original Message -----
From: "sophia"
To:
Sent: Thursday, August 07, 2008 1:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hernán Flores de la Torre
Hello Bill,
I have this from Retoños de España:
"El Capitán Hernán Flores -que tenía parentesco con la familia de
tambienconquistador
Pedro Pacho - fue originario de Salamanca en España, e hijo de Pedro Fuentes
y de
Catalina Flores, hidosdalgo."
Sofia
My father's grandmother was descendant of these folks.:) Marge:)
On Aug 7, 2008, at 1:38 PM, sophia wrote:
Hello Bill,
I have this from Retoños de España:
"El Capitán Hernán Flores -que tenía parentesco con la familia de
tambienconquistador
Pedro Pacho - fue originario de Salamanca en España, e hijo de Pedro
Fuentes y de
Catalina Flores, hidosdalgo."
Sofia
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Hola a todos.
Solo quería decirles que acaba de finalizar nuestra conferencia de HISTORIA
DE LOS ALTOS DE JALISCO y fue un gran éxito. Tuvimos la asistencia de 73
personas, entre ellas 7 miembros de Nuestros Ranchos y muchos más futuros
Gracias Ricardo
Lo quiero invitar a la presentación de mi novela "El quinto sueño."
El evento tendrá lugar en Mezcala de los Romero (mpio de Tepa) el 21 de agosto a las cinco de la tarde.
Felicidades por lo logrado en la reunión en el Valle.
Un abrazo
Juan Ramón Alvarez
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Rick Rodriguez wrote:
From: Rick Rodriguez
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Valle de Guadalupe Meeting
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 8:23 PM
Hola a todos.
Solo quería decirles que acaba de finalizar nuestra conferencia de HISTORIA
DE LOS ALTOS DE JALISCO y fue un gran éxito. Tuvimos la asistencia de 73
personas, entre ellas 7 miembros de Nuestros Ranchos y muchos más futuros
miembros, así como cronistas de casi todos los municipios de la región de
Los Altos, invitados especiales, y por supuesto al Dr. Don Mariano Gonzalez
Leal y su familia.
Entre lo más destacado se encuentra la excelente conferencia, única en su
clase, que nos ofreció Don Mariano
Si podemos, claro que ahí estaremos. En donde va a tener lugar la
presentación?
-----Mensaje original-----
De: announce-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:announce-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Juan Ramón
Alvarez
Enviado el: Sunday, August 03, 2008 9:10 AM
Para: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Valle de Guadalupe Meeting
Gracias Ricardo
Lo quiero invitar a la presentación de mi novela "El quinto sueño."
El evento tendrá lugar en Mezcala de los Romero (mpio de Tepa) el 21 de
agosto a las cinco de la tarde.
Felicidades por lo logrado en la reunión en el Valle.
Un abrazo
Juan Ramón Alvarez
--- On Sat, 8/2/08, Rick Rodriguez wrote:
From: Rick Rodriguez
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Valle de Guadalupe Meeting
To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Saturday, August 2, 2008, 8:23 PM
Hola a todos.
Solo quería decirles que acaba de finalizar nuestra conferencia de HISTORIA
DE LOS ALTOS DE JALISCO y fue un gran éxito
Gracias primo Rick, por la atención de invitarme al Valle, quiero felicitarte por todo el trabajo realizado , a los compañeros de este foro que no tenía el gusto de conocer en persona,además a los cronistas de la región alteña , por su amena charla y su calidéz , a Don Mariano González Leal por su tiempo, por sus enseñanzas y su sencillez, a las personas de Valle que nos recibieron con tantas atenciones, y a todos los primos que tuve el placer de conocer,,,,es una gran emosión conocer a tantas personas con intereses en común , que compartimos además de este interés a muchos de nuestros ancestros.....ojalá podamos reunirnos más seguido fué una experiencia enriquecedora y sumamente emotiva......muchas gracias a todos y cada uno de mis primos con mucho afecto,,,,,,, Lupita González González................. > From: rickrod.com@gmail.com> To: announce@nuestrosranchos.org; alvarezdmezcala@yahoo.com> Date: Mon, 4 Aug 2008 15:54:05 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Valle de Guadalupe
Hola a Todos los compañeros delForo
"Nuestros Ranchos":
Me uno al agradecimiento hacia mi compañero y amigo
Ricardo Rodriguez Camarena, por su gran organizacion
y amables atenciones en este Primer encuentro del Grupo
que en verdad fue un exito, ojala y sigan estos encuentros
y puedan asistir mas miembros de Muestros Ranchos.
--
Saludos desde Guadalajara:
Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez
Al contrario, gracias a ti Alex por haber sido parte de esta reunión y por
todo tu apoyo. Y gracias a todos los miembros de Nuestros Ranchos que
asistieron, sin ustedes no hubiera sido posible este evento. En especial,
quiero agradecer de todo corazón a Juan Jose Ramirez Ibarra por su ayuda en
la realización de esta conferencia. No sé como hubiera salido todo este
relajo sin su ayuda.
Espero que el siguiente evento sea mucho mejor que este pasado y que podamos
contar con un mayor número de miembros de Nuestros Ranchos. Yo creo que
sería bueno ir pensando en qué lugar hacerlo.
Ustedes que opinan?
Saludos,
Ricardo
Congratulations Rick!!!
It was a great event and you are a tremendous host. People from different places arrived to Valle de Guadalupe and you made us feel like home. Thank you very much for all your kindness.
Dr. Mariano Gonzalez said that his new child was born in El Valle (7 books of the new edition of "Retoños de España en la nueva Galicia") so Nuestros Ranchos had the privilege of this presentation.
Also, all the chronologists and writters that went to the meeting were very happy and we shared valuable information.
It is going to be hard to improve what you have done but hopefully this kind of events take place more often in other towns of the region.
Congratulations and thanks again
Juan José Ramírez Ibarra
San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco
Hello everyone,
I found some church records for San Julian, Jalisco on the Somos
Primos site and was able to make some progress on my research!
I was wondering if any of you, that have experience with the Los Altos
Great message Daniel, I feel the same. I would love to travel to the land of my ancestors and feel of their spirits. I want to see the land where they lived and I would like to find the living family. I would like to find the ranches that my grandfather owned. I would like to find pictures of family members long gone. I have always wanted to see what they looked like. I just would like to know them better.
Claudia,
Do you have any Renteria families ending up in Jalpa, Zacatecas? The farthest I can go back is with my great grandfather Pedro Renteria born ~ 1859 married to Mariana Romero.
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From: Claudia_Reynoso
>
> Thank you Daniel, your explanation makes comeplete sense. I guess this is why
> other predominant families (i.e. Padilla Davila, Temino Velasco, etc.) didn't
> lose the compiled surnames over several generations.
>
> I feel the Reynoso-Renteria clan was a bit looser though, and not always stuck
> to both at all times. In my opinion, this explains why so many of my extended
> family are registered as both (on separate documents), but they are the same
> individual!
>
> AHA!-moment!
Irene,
You should definitely do it! I took a 15 year break from my investigations
into my ancestry and made a significant jump this past week. The conference in
Valle de Guadalupe was great, but I got so much more excitement actually doing
the investigative work. I went to the ranches I had never been to before and
was able to find them with the help of my grandparents and it was majestic.
It’s the rainy season there so it’s lush green. I was able to get pictures
of two more of my great grandparents on this trip and I was so surprised to
see their features in my aunts and uncles. Its very exciting and very much
worth the time. I'm ready to go back and continue! Time flies when you're
having fun. Anyway, hope this inspires you in some way.
Juan Aguayo
------ Original Message ------
Received: 06:53 AM PDT, 08/04/2008
From: Irene Sweet
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] for Irene Sweet
Great message Daniel, I feel the same. I would love to travel to
Hola Ruben,
I haven't found any Renteria in Jalpa in my line. My family is (primarily) Reynoso from Juchipila and Moyahua, Zac.
It is assumed that the Renteria name stayed for a few generations as a second surname connected to Reynoso, but it was dropped in my family sometime between 1900 and 1905. I'm still not very clear on how my particular line is related to Renteria, although a theory exists (you can find it on NuestrosRanchos if you search for Reynoso-Renteria)
If I come accross any Renterias in Jalpa, I will let you know.
Claudia..this Raul Luna...I have several Reynoso(reinnosos) in my family tree. Do you have any Lunas,Lamas, Rodriquez,Estradas? in your tree? Most of my family comes from Juchipila and its sourrounding areas, and Moyahua. Saludos, Raul
Claudia_Reynoso wrote:
Hola Ruben,
I haven't found any Renteria in Jalpa in my line. My family is (primarily) Reynoso from Juchipila and Moyahua, Zac.
It is assumed that the Renteria name stayed for a few generations as a second surname connected to Reynoso, but it was dropped in my family sometime between 1900 and 1905. I'm still not very clear on how my particular line is related to Renteria, although a theory exists (you can find it on NuestrosRanchos if you search for Reynoso-Renteria)
If I come accross any Renterias in Jalpa, I will let you know.
Juan,
Thanks for your most inspiring message. I am happy that you were able to go to Mexico and visit family and the land of your ancestors. It means so much. I know that the conference was well worth the trip, but what you were able to accomplish besides was great. Now all I have to do is work on my husband.
Thanks again,
Irene
----- Original Message ----
From: Juan Aguayo
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 5, 2008 1:55:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] for Irene Sweet
Irene,
You should definitely do it! I took a 15 year break from my investigations
into my ancestry and made a significant jump this past week. The conference in
Valle de Guadalupe was great, but I got so much more excitement actually doing
the investigative work. I went to the ranches I had never been to before and
was able to find them with the help of my grandparents and it was majestic.
It’s the rainy season there so it’s lush green. I was able to get pictures
of two more of my great
Hi all. I am planning a trip to Mexico in the fall (leisure trip to Cabo San Lucas, B.C. Sur) and was wondering if anybody knows of a bookstore chain - or national bookseller - in Mexico that I can reasearch and perhaps order some geneaology books from.
Claudia:
I have never been to Cabo San Lucas, but from my other trips to resort cities in Mexico, I doubt you will be able to find a decent book store there.
Genealogy books are generally not printed or distributed by major publishing houses and therefore are not really carried by bookstore chains. Many of the best books on history, ethnography, etc. in Mexico are printed and distributed by Fondo de Cultura Economica, which does have bookstores throughout the country, but they also sell their books online:
http://www.libreriasdelfondo.com/LF_LibreriasFondo2.asp
Another great bookstore chain in Mexico is Librerias Gandhi, which also sells online and ships to the United States. They do have a store in Cabo San Lucas on Calle Morelos s/n, Colonia Centro.
I just went to Cabo San Lucas a couple of weeks ago. There is a mall style
commercial center on the marina, it is called Puerto El Paraiso, you might find
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I so apologize for what I sent....obviously incoherent...here I go
again...this is what I was able to obtain regarding my Luna's side of the family
(registered or baptized in Tlaltenango, Zacatecas. I think the Luna surname is one
Hola Raul,
Yes, indeed I have some Luna, Estrada, and Rodrigues:
LUNA
A fifth great-grand-mother was Maria Timotea de Luna married to Diego de Aro (Haro) early-1800's
A sixth great-grand-mother was Maria Geronima de Luna married to Jose Miguel Carrillo in the late-1700's
Where is the LUNA connection from (what state/pueblo)?
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We're still in Zacatecas, primarily Moyahua/Juchipila area.
Espi...my Luna family comes from Juchipila,Apostol, Moyahua, Amoxochitl, etc..sourrounding areas...very large Luna family...Raul
Latina1955@aol.com wrote: Where is the LUNA connection from (what state/pueblo)?
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Hi there ,
My name is Welester G. Alvarado and I believe that my Great great Grandfathers mother was a Maria Pascuala de Luna married to a Juan Pedro de Alvarado de la Cruz 3rd of July 1770 in Saltillo , Coahuila .
They say that a lot of people moved on north from Zacatecas , Aguascaliente and Jalisco . Do you think that maybe some of your family moved up north ?
Welester > Espi...my Luna family comes from Juchipila,Apostol, Moyahua, Amoxochitl, etc..sourrounding areas...very large Luna family...Raul
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I have been trying for quite some time to find information on my Luna side of
the family. Here is the information I have. They were registered in
Tlaltenango, Zacatecas.
23. _Maria Florencia Herrera Corchado_
(file:///C:/Users/Owner/Old%20computer%20backup/Esperanza/My%20Documents/web/lunaherre/pafg06.htm#89C) (_Jose
Maria de Herrera_
(file:///C:/Users/Owner/Old%20computer%20backup/Esperanza/My%20Documents/web/lunaherre/pafg06.htm#90) , _Luis de la Cruz de Herrera_
(file:///C:/Users/Owner/Old%20computer%20backup/Esperanza/My%20Documents/web/lunaherr
e/pafg05.htm#94) , _Pedro Prudencio Marin_
(file:///C:/Users/Owner/Old%20computer%20backup/Esperanza/My%20Documents/web/lunaherre/pafg04.htm#98) , _Luis
Marin_
(file:///C:/Users/Owner/Old%20computer%20backup/Esperanza/My%20Documents/web/lunaherre/pafg03.htm#209) ,
, ) was born in Aguajes, Zacatecas. She was christened on 25 Feb 1858. She
died in May 1916/0056.
Maria married Antanacio Luna son of Felix Luna and
I am willing to buy the new Retonos de España also