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You can also contact me through my account here as it goes to the same email, agon123_at_gmail_dot_com

I'd be more than happy to help any way I can..

Arturo G

His contact info is included on this page:

http://www.arturogonzalez.com/AG/Research.html

Happy New Year to all
Roy

I remember seeing it. Ask Amy de la Torre; I believe she she saw it, too

Jose Carlos de Leon

Jorge

There could be a couple of issues.

One might be the word processor you are using, or perhaps the version.

If you are using the current PC version of Word, after saving the file, press the ¶ button to show the spaces, paragraph marks, and so on. You should then see the control codes for building the index if you are using Word.

Then use the Word command to insert the index. You may have to work with the formatting to make it look nice.

A better way to go would be to use PAF Companion. This does a better job of formatting the reports. You will have to buy this; the PAF and PAF Companion software used to cost about $10 on CD, but I think you can also down load it for the same price.

PAF Companion launches either from within PAF, or can be run separately.

PAF Companion also prints nice charts. I have made charts as large as 3 ft x 3 ft, saved them as pdf files and then had them printed on a large format printer at Kinko and the UPS Store.

PAF and PAF Companion are not as

Here is a recipe I found online:

http://www.canalcocina.es/receta/pollo-la-naranja-con-almendras

Emilie
Port Orchard, WA

> Date: Fri, 21 Dec 2012 15:44:04 -0800
> From: alice_wissing@yahoo.com
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Chicken With Oranges
>
> I am interested in that recipe. My ancestors are from San Juan de los Lagos, and I don't have any recipes from that area. Please share. It does sound Spanish, with the almonds and all.

Alice I emailed you the recipe please let me know if you get it.

I've never heard of this dish. Sounds more cosmopolitan than ranchero. Probably is a Spanish/Moorish dish. Joe Rubio

My grandmother use to make a dish called pollo con naranjas, it was great with chicken, oranges, onion, almonds and the spices were cinamon, cloves, salt pepper and saffron. my mother told that this dish was something that her grandmother also made.

Pat,

Thank you pat and thanks to all the members who have helped with my family ancestry appreciate it alot.Merry Christmas=]

and a very MERRY CHRISTMAS TO YOU!  and a Safe HAPPY NEW YEAR!
It does seem like we are all "primos"  and closely related....
Thank you Pat.  Enjoy!

Ann M. Gutierrez

________________________________
From: Pat Corbera
To: Nuestros Ranchos
Sent: Sat, December 22, 2012 12:43:39 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Merry Chirstmas & Happy New Year

To all my new found cousins and friends that share the love of learning about
their ancestors,

Tino and I wish you "all,"  a Very Merry Christmas and A Happy and Healthy New
Year...

I will be back online after the holidays...

May the Good Lord Bless you and your families!

Hugs and Love,

Pat and Tino Corbera

where can i access the records they have digitzied already?

Sanchez-Castellanos

Gracias y estamos a la espera de que esos archivos sea n publico y si son on line mejor.

Zapvive

Were you able to match up the ages of the bride and groom at their marriage? Does it make sense for the year the child was born. In other words, they weren't 80 when the child was born. Sometimes when you have such discrepancies you have to look at other things. You can trust marriage records more than birth because you know the "novios" were there and they gave much more reliable information. Your information was so far off, I wouldn't add it till I had more info to confirm. I think Angelina's advise is right on. I was just about to add an ancestor to my tree today because I thought I already had the parents on my tree. It was a Josefa Mier and Alejo Berumen. I had a Maria Josefa Berumen and Manuel Berumen. I figured he could have been Manuel Alejo Berumen, then I realized they were about 100 years apart. You find this happens often.

Barbara
On Dec 16, 2012, at 4:21 PM, zapvive1@msn.com wrote:

> What do we do when we find that, for example, the parents named in one

Zapvive1,

Keep in mind that a lot of the times the mother was not present during the
baptism since she was still recovering from childbirth and it was considered
a necessity to have the child baptized within days of birth; therefore, it
is common for mistakes to happen with the names of the maternal
grandparents. In this particular case, it looks like the scribe might have
mixed up the maternal grandmother (Gertrudis Garcia de Alba) with the
paternal grandmother (Maria Antonia ...) and came up with a new name (Anna
Maria Garcia de Alba). In any case, I would look for other children from
this marriage and try to resolve the difference in names that way. The other
possibility is that you are dealing with another couple...

Good Luck,
-Angelina-

You can access the film numbers by clicking the "Catalog" option at the top
of FamilySearch.com home page. It looks to me like it was part of film #
1156615. I don't quite understand why, if one clicks the film number,
presumably to order it, it then says it does not exist.

Raquel

>
>
>

I also descend from Juan de Tiscareño and Isabel Romo de Vibar y Rangel. Juan was the son of Luis Tiscareño de Molina y Márquez and Lorenza Ruíz de Esparza Navarro Gabay (Gabadi). This is proven in the dispensas of two of his great-grandchildren that married great grandchildren of his sisters Elvira Márquez and Francisca Gabadi.

Joseph Tiscareño Aguilera con María Dolores de Cobos y Flores de la Torre

http://goo.gl/WPhr3

Dispensa 168054 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18415-16200-82?cc=1874591&wc…

Tomasa Carreon Muñoz con Joseph Luebana Delgado

http://goo.gl/lzwSR

Dispensa 168608 https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18377-20770-45?cc=1874591&wc…

Marriage of Elvira Márquez that names her parents as Luis de Tiscareño and Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-52414-17?cc=1410092&…

Marriage of Francisca Gabadi that names her parents as Luis de Tiscareño and Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza

https:/

Hi Josie,, thank you so much for that info,, explains a lot!

Gracias

Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 3, 2012, at 3:57 PM, "Josie T. Trevino" wrote:

> Hello Barbara,
>
> In response to your question below to Joseph, I learned that those of us who use "gmail" will not see their posts when submitted although everyone else will. Does not make sense to me but that is apparently how "gmail works"..... :-)
>
> Good luck!
>
> Josie
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Sun, 2 Dec 2012 17:30:06 -0800
> From: Barbara Andrews
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Help
> Message-ID: 2C1B611E-00FA-4D8B-B515-6299C4475736@gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hello Joseph,
>
> I wanted to find out if I've been doing something wrong. I posted a suggestion to the Subject "Help" posted by Laura Gonzalez on Nuestros Ranchos website. I noticed that you emailed all the responses except mine. I was wondering if I did something wrong when I responded? Not the

Hi Pat,

In your message to Raquel you mentioned that there is a link between Gonzalo
Yáñez del Monte and Ma. Florencia Yáñez. Was she the daughter of Gonzalo
Yáñez and Gerónima de Benavides? Are there any records I could check online
for Ma. Florencia Yáñez?

Thanks,
BILL FIGUEROA

----- Original Message -----
From: "Pat Corbera"
To: "Nuestros Ranchos"
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 7:52 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Common Ancestor - Raquel Ruiz

> Hi Raquel,
>
> In checking the pedigree charts that you shared on NR, I believe that I
> have established a link with your ancestors Gonzalo Yanez del Monte y
> Geronima de Benavides.
>
> Gonzalo Yanez del Monte y Geronima de Benavides are my husband Florentino
> (Tino) L Corbera's 9th Great Grandparents.
>
> Tino's Maternal Line:
> Mother Ma Refugia Perez-->Ma Andrea Aguirre Andrade-->Ma Senovia
> Aguirre-->Jose Timoteo Aguirre-->Joseph Leonicio Contreras Aguirre-->Ma
> Phelipa Gonzalez Contreras-->Melchora Losano

The earlier marriage records, in some localities, give only the 'essential' facts. That is, just the names of the couple getting married. All the other details are often in the matrimonial investigations.

In Aguascalientes, for example, the marriage records started giving more details in the 1740s. Prior to then, the matrimonial investigations, when they exist, filled in the details; however, many are missing.

The information that was recorded in the sacramental documents changed over time. As I'm sure you've also noticed, and not every community did things the same way. When changes were ordered by the Bishop, it took a while for everyone to start doing things the same way.

Another reason is that the clerk who recorded the marriage may not have had all the information. He recorded what he knew. Ocassionally you may see a blank where a surname should be. Rarely, the given name is missing.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Denise

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George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Her name appears as Rosa Maria Moran Hernandez de Rueda. Hernandez de Rueda
and Fernandez de Rueda are the same surname.

Did you read the second response to your thread at
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/21025 ?

Armando

On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:39 PM, Ronald Reynoso wrote:

>
> Hello Memebers, I have a hard time reading a marriage record -San Juan de
> Los Lagos -1722-1770 Image # 297-298. The Marriage record belongs to
> Lorenzo Alvarez Tostado married to Francisca Rita Munoz de Nava (daughter
> of Jose Munoz de Nava and Micaela Gomez de Mendoza) Jan. 15.1748. The
> Father of Lorenzo Alvarez Tostado states Diego Alvarez Tostado, but the
> mother I think says Rita Maria Moran Fernandez de Rueda. Any guesses ?
> Thank you for time
> Ronnie Reynoso

Hi Ronnie,

I read it as Rosa Maria Moran hernandes de Rueda

I reviewed this record last month and recorded the following notes for this couple:

José Lorenzo Álvarez Tostado: español, originario y vecino de la feligresía de San Pedro Teocaltiche

Rita Muñoz de Hermosillo: española, originaria y vecina de esta feligresía [Jalostotitlan] en el Papalote

velados 15 enero 1748, fueron padrinos don Juan Francisco Alvarez Tostado y doña Maria Rita Galarza

Regards,
Austin Perez

Daniel,

It looks like We are Both Stuck!