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SLC Trip overwhelm !!

Alicia, you could do it one roll at a time at your
local FHC.  

I encourage you to go to SLC for your own pleasure
and curiousity but after this just order the films from your local FHC--one at a
time for your viewing leisure.  If you feel it's a great film, order it
permanent (3.50 x 3=$10.50).  Marge:)


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Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:22
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Subject: [ranchos] SLC Trip overwhelm
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Well here I am now getting ready to go, I have been doing my homework in
terms of all the advice I've been given. Much of the homework I had done
months ago as far as the IGI database to identify which films to order and
some I did when we went to Tlachichila in Sept 2004. All of this data is
what compelled me to go to SLC. There is so much that needs to be looked up
and verified that only a trip to SLC will do it.


I found that I would get very agressive and order many rolls of film at
my local FHS and by the time my 3 or 4 weeks were up I'd only had a chance
to review 2 or 3 rolls, hence the trip to SLC. I will be there for 3 days
and nights but somehow I don't believe that will be enough. I see from some
of your responses that some of you go several times a year. That also tells
me that 3 days will not be enough but I also know that I don't have the
financial resources to go often.

Instructions in English please

Could someone please give 'step by step' instructions in English on 
how to find phone numbers on the two web-sites that Jon Walker 
posted.  The English link still is not clear enough for those of us 
that don't have the Spanish skills.  I was surprised to hear that 
someone actually found a phone number.  

Kitty Cortez




Thoughts on a SLC Trip

Alicia
I would spend your time at SLC in making copies of those records you 
found on the IGI.  If you ONLY go after the extracted documents that 
you know are on the films, you should have no problem getting thru 
the 47 rolls of film you have.  Then any extra time can be used by 
going thru a couple of films slowly.  If your list of documents to 
find is listed by film number, and then date, it goes rather fast 
and you can take 2-3 rolls of film to the film printer room.  As I 
mentioned before, do your homework now in creating that list.  Take 
your clipboards to separate your surnames into your pedigree 
branches.  
Rich and I will be there the end of April thru the first week of 
May.  We also probably will be back the middle of August again.  Our 
grand daughter goes to Weber State in Ogden and yes we look like the 
Beverly Hillbillies carrying her stuff back and forth.  
I would not be surprised if 25% of your films are actually at the 
library.  When you call in your films to order always mention that 
you are coming from out of state and they let you order more than 
the usual five.  Also order five or more films in your husbands 
name.  These films will be on the shelves when you get there.  
We save ordering films for our local library in Auburn (40 miles 
away) for those films that are not extracted and we know there are 
documents we need on them.
Finally a short message I can send thru Ranchos.
We will be in Fremont and the Santa Cruz area for 3 days the 20th of 
February.  We are making tamales in the Santa Cruz mtns.  Rich and I 
would love to meet you.  When are you leaving for SLC?
Kitty


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> 
> 
> Alicia Carrillo wrote:
> 
> >     Well here I am now getting ready to go, I have been doing my
> >     homework in terms of all the advice I've been given. Much of 
the
> >     homework I had done months ago as far as the IGI database to
> >     identify which films to order and some I did when we went to
> >     Tlachichila in Sept 2004. All of this data is what compelled 
me to
> >     go to SLC. There is so much that needs to be looked up and
> >     verified that only a trip to SLC will do it.
> >
> >     I found that I would get very agressive and order many rolls 
of
> >     film at my local FHS and by the time my 3 or 4 weeks were up 
I'd

Joseph's Thoughts on a SLC Trip





Alicia Carrillo wrote:


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Well here I am now getting ready to go, I have been doing my
homework in terms of all the advice I've been given. Much of the
homework I had done months ago as far as the IGI database to identify
which films to order and some I did when we went to Tlachichila in Sept
2004. All of this data is what compelled me to go to SLC. There is so
much that needs to be looked up and verified that only a trip to SLC
will do it.

I found that I would get very agressive and order many rolls of
film at my local FHS and by the time my 3 or 4 weeks were up I'd only
had a chance to review 2 or 3 rolls, hence the trip to SLC. I will be
there for 3 days and nights but somehow I don't believe that will be
enough. I see from some of your responses that some of you go several
times a year. That also tells me that 3 days will not be enough but I
also know that I don't have the financial resources to go often.

My question to those of you who have completed or are very
advanced in your quest to find your ancestors is how long did it take
you to compile this data and how many hours in a day, week or month did
you have to invest in order to get that far?

Alicia,



wow what a question. . .for me it took months of effort. I rolled
through many many films frame by frame. At first when I had more time
than I have now I would go in to my FHC everyday for about 5 hours.
That period lasted probably 6-8 months (I'm currently a 2-3 times a
month volunteer which gives me a key to the place and freedom to go in
and study 24/7 If I want other than Sunday morning during their
services). Now I go in on the 1st, 3rd, and 5th thursdays of every
month and get there at 5 am and have 4 hours of research time before
the center opens when I need to start my volunteer duties. Usually I
can keep working to some degree.

SLC Trip overwhelm !!



Well here I am now getting ready to go, I have been doing my homework in terms of all the advice I've been given. Much of the homework I had done months ago as far as the IGI database to identify which films to order and some I did when we went to Tlachichila in Sept 2004. All of this data is what compelled me to go to SLC. There is so much that needs to be looked up and verified that only a trip to SLC will do it.


I found that I would get very agressive and order many rolls of film at my local FHS and by the time my 3 or 4 weeks were up I'd only had a chance to review 2 or 3 rolls, hence the trip to SLC. I will be there for 3 days and nights but somehow I don't believe that will be enough. I see from some of your responses that some of you go several times a year. That also tells me that 3 days will not be enough but I also know that I don't have the financial resources to go often.


My question to those of you who have completed or are very advanced in your quest to find your ancestors is how long did it take you to compile this data and how many hours in a day, week or month did you have to invest in order to get that far? Did you do it alone or did you collaborate with other family members? Did most of you do it through your family history centers? As I see it now I have approximately 47 rolls of film that I need to request and I believe as I have some new findings I will find that I might have additional requests.


My other question is how many rolls is the average you can review in one day or is there an average. When I would go to my local FHS it would sometimes take up to six hours to go over one roll because I didn't want to miss anything that might not be too obvious if I scanned through it too quickly and some were difficult to read.


I guess I'm thinking out loud and maybe someone out there has good tips on how to scan film and how not to scan film, the right way vs the wrong way.


Alicia


 

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info on a Salt Lake City hotel

Marge,

 

I think that's so cool, "the geneaology rate". My husband got a kick out of that one, he says where else can you get a discount for claiming your deceased relatives.

 

Alicia

marge vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote:

Here's some info I picked up on a hotel at Salt Lake city that sounds pretty
good to me.  (Usual disclaimers)  Marge:)


Crystal Inn Hotel
About Our Company
What sets Crystal Inn apart from other hotels is our dedication to ensuring
our guests have the most enjoyable, comfortable stay possible. Here are just
a few "extras" that you'll receive with Crystal Inn: Oversize rooms with
seperate sitting & sleeping areas. Complimentary hot breakfast buffet,
including eggs, breakfast meats, fruit, & specialty items. Complimentary
roundtrip shuttle to airport and Family History Library. Complimentary
high-speed internet access. Ask for the Genealogy rate.

URL: http://www.crystalinns.com

Contact Information
Crystal Inn Hotel
230 West 500 South
Salt Lake City, UT 
84101
United States


  Toll Free Phone Number
800-366-4466

Phone Number
801-328-4466 ext 612

Fax Number
801-328-5653





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info on a Salt Lake City hotel

This is amazing, I asked for advice and boy did I get a fantastic response from this group including where to stay. Thanks gang, I will not feel alone in Salt Lake

 

Alicia

Irma GomezLucero <igomezlucero@...> wrote:

Hello Roberto,

    How was their inventory on Microfilm from San Miguel el Alto, Jalisco or did you request microfilm in advance?

Irma





From: Roberto Martinez [mailto:malinallitekpatl@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:18 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] info on a Salt Lake City hotel




Hey,


Just left Salt Lake City yesterday, and whenever I'm in town I stay at the Howard Johnson Express, On N. Temple & 300 West.  It's $40 a night for a queen or king size bed, and about 5-10 walk to the Family History Library.


There are hotels a block or two closer, but if cost is an issue, I'd stay at Howard Johnsons.





Roberto Martinez

 

Inside Scoop on the Family History Library

There are many reasons why I do the majority of my researh, in Salt
Lake at the Family History Library.

1. You have access, to all the films that the FHL has.  All the films
that your local Family History Centers can order, and also all the films  
that are restricted to Salt Lake only.

2. The films that are off-site (vault), you can always order them into
the library.  There is no charge, to order the films, from the vault.
 It usually take 1 or 2 days, to arrive.  Also, the films then stay in
the Library.  Because technically, all the films that the FHL has should 
be in the Library.  But until a need is shown for the film, it is kept
in the vault.

3. There is help desk, on each floor, where you can ask questions. 
And usually there is someone who can answer your questions.  Also, for
with Mexico research, there is Sister Ruth Schirmacher who is an
Accredited Genealogist, for Mexico on staff.  She can be great help.

4. Also, you have access, to all the books, that are in the FHL.

If any of you are thinking, about going to the FHL.  It can be a trip
well worth, your time, especially if you do your homework before. 

1.  Know what films that you want to look at.  Check the Family
History Library Catalog, for the status of the films.  If they are in
the vault, CALL (801) 240-2334, do not request the films by email. 
The library has a tendency, to check emails only every couple days or
weeks.

2. Make a research plan.

3. Be aware, that you probably, won't have enough time, to accomplish,
everything that you want to.

Also, at BYU, in Provo, they have a Hispanic Collection (it is
rumored, to the biggest hispanic collection, outside of Salt Lake). 

Thanks,
Jonathan





info on a Salt Lake City hotel

color=#0000ff size=2>Hello Roberto,

   
face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>How was their inventory on Microfilm from San
Miguel el Alto, Jalisco or did you request microfilm in
advance?

color=#0000ff size=2>Irma





From: Roberto Martinez
[mailto:malinallitekpatl@...]
Sent: Wednesday, February 09,
2005 11:18 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE:
[ranchos] info on a Salt Lake City hotel




Hey,


Just left Salt Lake City yesterday, and whenever I'm in town I stay at the
Howard Johnson Express, On N. Temple & 300 West.  It's $40 a night for
a queen or king size bed, and about 5-10 walk to the Family History Library.


There are hotels a block or two closer, but if cost is an issue, I'd stay at
Howard Johnsons.





Roberto Martinez

 

info on a Salt Lake City hotel

Hey,


Just left Salt Lake City yesterday, and whenever I'm in town I stay at the Howard Johnson Express, On N. Temple & 300 West.  It's $40 a night for a queen or king size bed, and about 5-10 walk to the Family History Library.


There are hotels a block or two closer, but if cost is an issue, I'd stay at Howard Johnsons.





Roberto Martinez

 

>From: "marge vallazza" <TeaCozyGran@...> >Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com >To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com> >Subject: [ranchos] info on a Salt Lake City hotel >Date: Wed, 9 Feb 2005 12:35:51 -0600 > >Here's some info I picked up on a hotel at Salt Lake city that sounds pretty >good to me. (Usual disclaimers) Marge:) > > >Crystal Inn Hotel >About Our Company >What sets Crystal Inn apart from other hotels is our dedication to ensuring >our guests have the most enjoyable, comfortable stay possible. Here are just >a few "extras" that you'll receive with Crystal Inn: Oversize rooms with >seperate sitting & sleeping areas. Complimentary hot breakfast buffet, >including eggs, breakfast meats, fruit, & specialty items. Complimentary >roundtrip shuttle to airport and Family History Library.
Complimentary >high-speed internet access. Ask for the Genealogy rate. > >URL: http://www.crystalinns.com > >Contact Information >Crystal Inn Hotel >230 West 500 South >Salt Lake City, UT 84101 >United States > > > Toll Free Phone Number >800-366-4466 > >Phone Number >801-328-4466 ext 612 > >Fax Number >801-328-5653 > > > > > >-- >No virus found in this outgoing message. >Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. >Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.6 - Release Date: 2/7/05 >

info on a Salt Lake City hotel

Here's some info I picked up on a hotel at Salt Lake city that sounds pretty
good to me.  (Usual disclaimers)  Marge:)


Crystal Inn Hotel
About Our Company
What sets Crystal Inn apart from other hotels is our dedication to ensuring
our guests have the most enjoyable, comfortable stay possible. Here are just
a few "extras" that you'll receive with Crystal Inn: Oversize rooms with
seperate sitting & sleeping areas. Complimentary hot breakfast buffet,
including eggs, breakfast meats, fruit, & specialty items. Complimentary
roundtrip shuttle to airport and Family History Library. Complimentary
high-speed internet access. Ask for the Genealogy rate.

URL: http://www.crystalinns.com

Contact Information
Crystal Inn Hotel
230 West 500 South
Salt Lake City, UT  84101
United States


  Toll Free Phone Number
800-366-4466

Phone Number
801-328-4466 ext 612

Fax Number
801-328-5653





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Going to Salt Lake City

The LDS in Westwood is located on Santa Monica
Boulevard at the corner of Manning. Not to far east of
the 405 Freeway and north of the 10 Freeway. I was
told there that it was the second largest in the
country, after the one in Salt Lake City. It has many
films. The most are from the state of Jalisco. I found
several good ones for Tepa and Atotnilco (los Altos),
but I have been ordering some. I got to the point that
I rather take a trip to Salt Lake City before I spend
more to have some sent to L.A. Whoever goes to Salt
Lake City needs to give us the inside scoop for those
of us who want to go in the near future, but are not
certain how soon it will be.

Guillermo.
 
--- Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@...> wrote:

> Alberto, Steven, Kitty and Joseph,
>  
> Thanks to all of you for the great information, for
> the support and encouragement, I need it!!!
> Alberto, If I'm ever in the Westwood area I'll make
> it a point to look it up. I live in San Jose,
> northern California so we do travel south from time
> to time. Maybe on my next visit I can put it on the
> places to visit list.
>  
> I'll keep you all posted on my
> progress................Alicia
> 
> Alberto Duarte <albertodua@...> wrote:
> 
> If you live in Los Angeles or the surrounding towns,
> the LDS Family Center in Westwood (near UCLA) is
> also
> excellent. They have tons of microfilm from Mexico.
> 
> Alberto.
> 
> --- sgapodaca wrote:
> 
> > 
> > That is not silly at all. I believe this is one of
> > the best gifts you 
> > can give to yourself. I myself wanted to go to
> Salt
> > Lake City in 
> > several occasions, but I just haven't had the
> time. 
> > 
> > According to some nice people that I met at a
> Family
> > History Center a 
> > while back, you can just go to the Family History
> > Library and check 
> > all the films they have there. However, it is a
> good
> > idea to call 
> > them in advance just to make sure that some
> specific
> > films you are 
> > looking forward to check are there. They could be
> at
> > another FHC in 
> > the US at this time, but of course, if you have
> > several surnames and 
> > locations to research, I believe that a trip to
> Salt
> > Lake City is 
> > worth it. Well, that is just my opinion. I am sure

Recruiting New Members: was-Going to Salt Lake City

Joseph.

 

Is this something you want me to do when I go to Salt Lake? Or are you referring to a different board such as the on-line message board? Yes I know I'm slow in the brain but it's best to ask rather than continue to question the content and intent.

 

Thanks, Alicia

Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:

Hijola,

somebody at that FHC is doing some intense research in our target area.
. .if you wouldn't mind maybe put up a notice on the FHC patron
information board about Ranchos. I'm always interested in adding serious
researchers [with an emphasis on serious but no emphasis on whether they
are beginners, journeymen, or advanced] to the group.

let me know if you want me to send you something to put up on the
bulletin board.

joseph

ps: General message to the group: its okay to tell people that are
studying in our target area about the group, but make sure they
understand there are two "easy" requirements to be a member that I will
make them comitt to in writing before subscribing them.

Alberto Duarte wrote:

>True, but when I first got started in to genealogy,
>almost all of the microfilm from Jerez and
Camargo was
>available.
>
>Alberto.
>

>

>



FHC Westwood

Here it is:
The Los Angeles Family History Library is located West
Los Angeles between Selby Avenue and Manning Avenue at
10741 Santa Monica Boulevard. Access to the FHC, the
Los Angeles Temple, Visitor's Center and other
buildings is via Eastborn (east side of the Los
Angeles Temple) off of Manning Avenue. Find LA FHC on
a street map. 

LISTED ARE SOME ACCOMMODATIONS NEAREST THE LOS ANGELES
FAMILY HISTORY CENTER 


TRAVELODGE: 10740 Santa Monica Blvd., Los Angeles, CA
90025, a small motel-like building directly across the
street from Temple Hill. Seagull Book (with
genealogical books and supplies) and a 7-11 is nearby
this Travelodge. Reservations 1-800-578-7878. More
details about this location. See map. 


HOLIDAY INN EXPRESS-CENTURY CITY: 10300 W. Olympic
Blvd., Los Angeles, CA 90064, just east of Beverly
Glen, 310-553-1000.Located a few miles from the FHC, a
new building with interesting architecture across the
street from a large grocery store, and about 1/2 mile
from upscale Century City Shopping Center &
Marketplace with many theaters, outdoor food courts
and main anchor department stores. See Map. 

BEST WESTERN - ROYAL PALACE INN: 2528 S. Sepulveda
Boulevard, Los Angeles, CA 90064, 310-477-9066 Toll
Free Reservations 1-800-251-3888. See Best Western
Site and put in the address for this inn at their
search option to view photo, map, and detail of
amenities at this location. 



LOCATIONS WITHIN A MILE OF THE L.A. FHC NEAR UCLA
AND/OR ADJACENT TO WESTWOOD VILLAGE 

NOTE: While residing in the UCLA area, also visit the
UCLA Map Library and the UCLA Law Library lower floor
to find unusual sources of ancestral information in
the easily understandable and accessible record books
indexed state-by-state (some early Virginia records
list much ancestry). Details of the cases listed are
often at the archives of the state the case was filed
in. 




--- sgapodaca <sgapodaca@...> wrote:

> 
> Hey Al, 
> 
> Do you know the address for this FHC? I tried to
> look for it on 
> Familysearch.org but I cannot retrieve it.
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alberto Duarte
> <albertodua@y...> 
> wrote:
> > If you live in Los Angeles or the surrounding
> towns,
> > the LDS Family Center in Westwood (near UCLA) is
> also
> > excellent.  They have tons of microfilm from
> Mexico.
> > 
> > Alberto.
> > 
> > --- sgapodaca <sgapodaca@y...> wrote:
> > 

Mexican Phone Books: Please!!!

Thank you Victor, Yes Last years book will be fine even the year
before. I suspect that the relatives I'm looking for might have been
living in my areas of specific research for 300 years so that being the
case I don't think they moved from house to house much either. . .so
even a book from 2001 or 2002 would be great and definitely much much
more than I have now which is nothing.



thanks Victor. . .and to any others that might look for books for me
from ANY place in our target area any book from 2000-2005 would be much
appreciated. both white and yellow if possible. thanks much,



joseph



Victor Villarreal wrote: