TEST SITE - DO NOT USE - Development only

> . . .I'm curious about vault films.. are there films that can only be seen
> by going to Salt Lake in person? Does this mean they are not listed online
> in family search?

ALL the geneaolgy films are listed in the catalog found on familyseaerch
along with where they can be found:
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp. Copies of
ALL the films can be viewed by patrons in their local Family History Centers
without having to travel to SLC.

The vault refers to a huge storage area in SLC hewn out of a granite
mountain where the temperature is constant and the elements are kept at bay
in order to preserve the films. This is where all the master copies of the
genealogy films owned by the LDS church are stored.

When a film is requested by a patron, a copy is made and sent to the main
library in SLC where it remins -- or the local Family History Center if that
is who made the request, and after three renewals the film will remain in
the local center on indefinite loan as well. I suspect the three renewals
pay for the cost of duplicating the film.

In some cases no one has ever asked to use a film so a copy has never been
made to be viewed and the only copy is the master copy in the vault. Hence
it takes a few days to receive a film from the vault, and if you only have a
few days at the library, it can really impact your visit when the films
aren't available.

If you look at the familysearch website, it will tell you whether the films
are in the vault, which means no copies are available in the library.
However, as Josie mentioned, you can request that a copy be sent to the
library before making the trip.

Hope this helps.

~Deena~

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[Genealogia.org.mx] 6085 5912 De La Torre

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Gracias por la informacion, Sr. John Inclan:

Ya tengo estos datos y posteriores, yo donde estoy atorado es en el
matrimonio de Pedro Navarro Gaytan y Maria de Velasco.

El Genealogista Pedro Franco Lopez me dijo que Maria de Velasco,
tambien se firmaba Maria Salcedo y Valdivia o Maria Hernandez Gamiño o Maria
Gómez de
Espejo, que era de los Hernandez Gamiño, que usaban todos esos apellidos,
pero
como se que esto es cierto, necesito saber lo de los HERNANDEZ GAMIÑO,
no he localizado tampoco la fé de bautizmo de mi ancestro Luis
Navarro
Gaytan Velasco, hijo de los anteriores, que se caso con Catalina Beatriz de
la Torre de la Cueva (tampoco de ella tengo su bautismo), se casaron el
02-Mzo-1734 en Tepatitlán, y tampoco se si Luis Navarro Gaytan tenia mas
hermanos.

Me puede usted ayudar con esto de los Navarro Gaytan y de los
Hewrnández
Gamiño.

Mil Gracias, Saludos desde Guadalajara:

Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez

2006/8/29, John Inclan :
>
> IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index
> v5.0 Mexico Search Results
> | Download | Pedigree
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> CLEMENTE DE LA TORRE LEDESMA Male
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> Event(s): Birth: Christening: 22 MAY 1703 Tepatitlan, Jalisco,
> Mexico Death: Burial:
> ------------------------------
> Parents: Father: CLEMENTE DE LA TORRE LEDESMA
> Family
> Mother: CATALINA FRANCO DE LA CUEVA
>
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> Messages: Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists
> the submitter's name and address and may include source information. The
> address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know the
> batch and sheet number.
> ------------------------------
> Source Information: Batch Number: 8683207
> Sheet: 31 Source Call No.: 1396258
> Type: Film
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Tomas Alejandro Villegas Gomez

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Black-Brown Relations in NC/Fabian Garcia

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North Carolina. Tensions between new immigrant populations and
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areas of the state. Host Frank Stasio discusses the relationship between
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1871-1948"

Dr. Fabian Garcia devoted his life to horticultural science. His
work as a horticulturist changed the face of New Mexico agriculture, and
that of a nation. Garcia was a member of New Mexico State University's
first graduating class in 1894. When he became the director of New
Mexico State University's Agricultural Experiment Station and Extension
Service in 1913, he was the first Hispanic in the nation to lead a
land-grant agricultural research station.
One of Garcia's most significant contributions to horticulture was
the development of a new pod type in chile peppers, the "New Mexican"
(mistakenly called "Anaheim"). This new pod variety opened commercial
markets for New Mexico chile and established the New Mexico chile pepper
food industry. He is known as the Father of the Mexican Food industry of
the United States. He was also instrumental in establishing the pecan
industry in New Mexico. He planted some of the first pecan trees in the
Mesilla Valley, and today New Mexico has more than 30,000 acres of
pecans. In addition, he laid the groundwork for New Mexico's successful
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[Genealogia.org.mx] 6073 5912 Trevino - Ayala - (Mis Abuelos)

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Hola Juan Pablo:

Saludos desde Guadalajara, soy Tomás Alejandro Villegas Gomez
investigo mi genealogia, aqui en Jalisco.
Podrias ayudarme, mandandome la descendencia de ese Domingo
Hernandez Gamiño.
Principalmente porque durante mucho tiempo estube atorado en mi
ascendencia por lo Navarro Gaytan, a que consultando los films parroquiales
de Tepatitlan, me frenaba en el matrimonio de mis Septimos Abuelos
Pedro Navarro Gaytan Orozco con Maria de Velasco, ya que a continuacion
te pongo la transcripcion de su Fe de Matrimonio:

Tepa.M8516.07 = Matrimonio de Pedro Nabarro Gaitan con Maria
Salcedo y Baldibia el 11-Jun-1714.
Esta Fe se encuentra en el Vol# 1 de Matrimonios
a Fojas# 67 Fte. y dice asi:
Fue vista el Lun-02-Ago-2000.

En Tepa, el 11-Jun-1714, a Pedro Nabarro Gaitan Vesino de la
felig.ade Ocotlán del obpado. de
Michoacan, Y a Maria Salcedo, Y Baldibia española de esta
felig.ahabiendo antes presedido las
declaraciones..............la celebracion del matrimonio que fue el
dia tres de dho. mes a que
fueron testigos en la labor de Santa Maria de esta dha.
felig.aJoseph hernandes, Nicolas de -
Ochoa, Andres Nabarro. Y otros muchos, Y a la dha. velasion Juan de
dios de baldibia, Pedro de
baldibia. y Diego de Asebes españoles vesinos de esta
felig.aPadrinos Juan de Mercado y
D.a -
Maria de Alba su esposa.

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Estos Datos me fueron generosamente proporcionados por el Lic. Pedro
Franco López en Septiembre del 2001.

Segun me lo explico el Lic. Pedro Franco López, esta Maria de Velasco,
se firmaba o se le llamaba indistintamente
como Maria de Velasco, o Maria Salcedo y Valdivia, o Maria Hernandez
Gamiño, o Maria Gomez de Espejo, que en
verdad proviene de los Hernandez Gamiño, pero siempre usaban
indistintamente los demas apellidos, como se
puede apreciar en ese tiempo, no ponian mas datos en el registro del
matrimonio, como el nombre de los padres
el estado civil de los novios o sus edades, por lo que es muy dificil
seguir la pista con estos datos, solo se puede
aclarar la verdadera filiacion de estos con documentos de otra indole
como lo son, las dispensas matrimoniales o
los protocolos notariales o de propiedad de tierras.

Me explico que este Pedro Navarro Gaitan, mi acendente directo,
se caso 3 veces, la 1a. Vez, con la ya mencionada
Maria de Velasco mi acendente directa, la 2da. Vez con Petronila
Gutierrez, y la Tecera con Maria Ornelas Aceves.

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Y aqui te pongo la transcripcion de la Fe de Matrimonio de mis sextos
abuelos
Luis Navarro Gaytan y Catharina Beatriz de la Torre, alli dice que Luis
Navarro
Gaytan es hijo de Pedro Navarro y Maria de Velasco, nunca podia encontrar el
matrimonio asi, Pedro Navarro con Maria de Velasco, hasta que el Historiador
y
Genealogista Lic. Pedro Franco Lopez me explico lo que esta arriba, pero
nada
mas, asi es que si es cierto, Maria de Velasco, tambien se firmaba y era
conocida como Maria Salcedo, o Maria Hernandez Gamiño o Maria Gomez
de ESpejo, pero solo tengo la palabra del Lic. Pedro Franco, como puedo
encontrar documentos que me hagan ver que esto es cierto.

Tepa.M8516.01 = Matrimonio de Luis Nabarro Gaitan con Catharina
Beatris de la Torre el 02-Mar-1734.
Esta Fe se encuentra en el Vol# 01 de Bautismos a
Fojas# 180 Vta. y dice asi:
Fue vista el 22-May-2000.

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Upcoming trip to Salt Lake City October 2006

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If anyone needs to order VAULT FILM for doing research at Salt Lake City FHC
the following phone number is the one to call and order your film:

801-240-2334.

I spoke with Sister Hayden at that number this morning and verified that
this is the correct number to call when ordering VAULT FILM to be viewed
there. She said to be certain and specify that you are part of a group of
genealogists who will be there doing research. Usually they limit their
requests to only 5 film at a time but she said they will order any amount
for us. (If you encounter any problems, please let me know because I have
another phone number that will assist us.) This is the phone number for the
International dept. (inside the little window where you pick up film) in the
basement where the Mexico and other international film are located.

Please be thinking about which film you want to order and order these well
in advance........like today! :-)

Details of the Hispanic Conference and information on seminars, lodging,
etc. have been sent in other messages. If anyone needs more info, please
feel free to e-mail me and I will be happy to assist you.

Hope to see a lot of you there!

Josie in San Antonio

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Comcast Blocking Nuestros Ranchos as SPAM

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> http://www.comcast.net/help/faq/index.jsp?faq=SecurityMail_Policy18627

Hello Arturo,

I have tried to contact (via email) comcast, but their response is
that they think there is an on-going spam issue ...

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Thank you for contacting Comcast Customer Security Assurance.
This is to notify you that your request for removal from the comcast.net blocklist has been received.

The following IP's were found within your request. Below each one, we've included the results of our research.
- 66.33.206.23 -
Your request for IP block removal has been denied for the following reason:

Our records indicate that the IP submitted has repeatedly been blocked, indicating an ongoing spam issue from the originating domain.

To pursue this issue further, your mail administrator will need to contact us at 856.317.7272.

Sincerely,
Comcast Customer Security Assurance
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I have not received any email from Nuestros Rachos since the date of
your post below, and so I expect I will not receive any reply.

This really ticks me off. I got comcast partly because a previous
provider would not allow me to _send_ any email because they thought
mine was a spam address. The problem was my hard-wired verizon card ip
address was within a range some one else was using for spam, and there
was nothing I could do about it. They refused to do anything either
because they hired their spam blocking from another service and _they_
didn't want to help. The only other solution was to get another ip
address, which Nuestros Ranchos may be able to do quite easily since
it's probably software controllable. I hope this gets resolved because
I'm not getting any mail from Nuestros Ranchos.

I will call Comcast monday and try to voice my complaint to a live
person. But I'm not expecting much help. The same spam blocking
service is used by MANY providers in an attempt to control spam.

Thursday, August 24, 2006, 11:46:08 AM, you wrote:

> Fellow Ranchos members who are Comcast customers...

> We have just received notification that email being sent out by the
> Nuestros Ranchos server is being blocked as SPAM. I imagine that
> because of the volume of messages recently and the fact that there
> are a number of you on the Comcast email system, our server and/or
> domain name has been flagged as a source of SPAM.

> You should have a way of remediating this, either by each of you
> adding the list addresses as "Safe" addresses in your Spam block
> software of having Comcast universally recognize our list addresses as "safe" addresses.

> Here is the relevant information that should be communicated to
> Comcast at blacklist_comcastnet@cable.comcast.com

> Domain Name: lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Reporting-MTA: frida.dreamhost.com
> IP 66.33.206.23 blocked by ldap

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Best regards,
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[Genealogia.org.mx] 6029 FLORES ESTRADA Y GOMEZ FLORES

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http://www.ochocolumnas1.net/2003/septiembre/26/NUEVAS_SECCIONES/cuerpo…

Hola Enrique, Juan Pablo y Jorge Luis:

Mi genealogia por el lato materno esta hubicada
en la rivera de Chapala, precisamente en Ocotlan,
La Barca, Jamay, y se extendio hacia Tototlan y
Atotonilco, los apellidos que busco son:
Gómez, Flores, Villarruel, Orozco, Jimenez, Ruiz de
Velasco, Vaca, Castellanos, etc.

Estoy un poco atorado aqui, porque varios registros
de mis ancestros debian estar en los archivos parroquia-
les de Tototlan, Jal. pero este es uno de los archivos
mas destruido en la Guerra Cristera, agradeceria mucho
su ayuda.

Para Informacion Sobre el Gran Historiador
Jaliciense Jose Ignacio Davila Garibi, lo que
enconte en Internet:

------------------------------------------------

Ignacio Dávila Garibi,
el gran bibliógrafo de Jalisco

«Apuntes para la historia de la Iglesia en Guadalajara», obra que fue su
coronamiento como investigador e historiador

Marisela Tachiquín | OC Los libros son una extensión de la imaginación, del
sentir y del saber del hombre, han sido y son los encargados de guardar la
memoria y acontecimientos de la humanidad, de ahí lo loable de la labor de
quienes se han dedicado a investigar y plasmar sus ideas a través de la
escritura, que ni los medios modernos logran desplazar.
Ignacio Dávila Garibi es uno de estos personajes que hicieron de la
escritura su forma de vida, a la que ingresó a muy pronta edad y que nunca
abandonó pero sí combinó con la docencia y su familia.

El incansable escritor. En el marco de las sesiones mensuales que organizan
el Instituto Cultural Ignacio Dávila Garibi y la Cámara de Comercio de
Guadalajara, el presbítero José Rosario Ramírez Mercado dictó la conferencia
titulada «José Ignacio Dávila Garibi. bibliófilo y bibliógrafo de Xalisco».
Señaló el padre Chayo, como todos en el medio cultural lo conocen, que
«desde que descifró los veintiocho signos con que se forjan los sonidos que
hacen las palabras, sin duda como todos los de entonces, sus manos de niño y
sus ojos incontaminados fueron a dar con el «cajoncito» de las cinco vocales
y luego con las tablas de las vocales ya en compañía de las consonantes»,
tal y como lo mostraba el silabario de San Miguel. Allí fue la puerta de
ingreso en el vicio de leer, compañero inseparable en largo y fecundo
recorrido por miles y miles de líneas impresas y no impresas. El dintel en
el otro vicio, el de escribir, llegó el 12 de diciembre de 1903».

Un elogio paterno el causante. Entre las anécdotas que mencionó el padre
Chayo destaca una, quizá la más importante, pues ella fue el detonante para
la gran carrera que inició Ignacio Dávila Garibi. Cuentan que el padre de
este ilustre personaje de Jalisco leyó un escrito y le dijo: «Debes
dedicarte a escribir para el público; sigue mi consejo, no te arrepentirás.
Esto, claro está, sin perjuicio de la carrera profesional que elijas».
Y así sucedió, pues ese elogio paterno fue el corcel que emprendió una
desatada carrera, pero aclaró el conferencista que para nada desordenada.
Guadalajara, su inspiración. Al recorrer la obra escrita por don Ignacio
Dávila Garibi aparece una constante, una clave de sus pensamientos, su
biografía intelectual, «lo que él eligió para la inspiración de su obra
escrita fue, primeramente, Guadalajara, a pesar de vivir alejado de ella más
de medio siglo, luego el occidente y finalmente su México».

Su vida familiar. Don Ignacio nació en la casa señalada con el número 487 de
la calle Juan Manuel; hijo de don Ignacio Dávila Cabrera y doña Elena Garibi
Santa María; el sacramento del bautismo lo recibió en la parroquia de El
Rosario. A la edad de 28 años, y ya con el título de abogado, contrajo
matrimonio con María González Chávez, con quien tuvo cinco hijos: María
Soledad, religiosa salesiana; María Guadalupe, misionera del Espíritu Santo;
Luz Cristina, quien se casó con José Luis Noriega Vargas; Ignacio Luis,
quien se casó con Susana Camacho Guzmán y Elena Victoria, esposa de Carlos
Anaya Chávez.

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TERESA DE ULLOA y JN. DE ESCOBEDO

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Thank you for the information Rose. Do you have any idea who Juan de
Escobedo's parents were? I am trying to figure out if he is the same Juan de
Escobedo who married a certain Melchora Cabrera. I am descended from the
latter Juan de Escobedo who is either a son or the same person as the Juan de
Escobedo who married Teresa Ulloa Ruiz de Esparza.

=====================
From: Rose Hardy
Date: 2006/08/26 Sat PM 03:34:31 CDT
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] TERESA DE ULLOA y JN. DE ESCOBEDO

Arturo

I do believe her father is Nicolas Ulloa. I also noticed in Nicolas de Anda
Sanchez's book that he listed a confirmation of a Teresa Ulloa who's parents
were Juan de Ulloa and Maria Ruiz de Esparza. The date of the confirmation
was 6 Jan 1654 in Teocaltiche, Jalisco.

The book I'm working on is my direct line that goes back to the early days of
Aguascalientes in a dictionary type format. More like a who's who. My
families are the Ruiz de Esparza, Romo de Vivars, Tiscareno's, Munos de
Hermosillo's to name a few.

Rose

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Arturo,According to the

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Thank you so much for that information. I think that is definitely the
correct Teresa Ruiz de Esparza... the records in Tlaltenango are simply
missing the Ulloa but the dates and names otherwise match. So you think that
she is the daughter of Maria Ruiz de Esparza and Nicolas Ulloa?

What is the book that you are working on?

Does anybody have the referenced Teocaltiche film so that they can look up
the parents of these two spouses for me?

=====================
From: Rose Hardy
Date: 2006/08/25 Fri AM 12:02:37 CDT
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Arturo,According to the

Arturo,

According to the IGI-

JN. DE ESCOBEDO
Marriages:
Spouse: TERESA DE ULLOA Family
Marriage: 06 JAN 1669 Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche,
Jalisco, Mexico
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Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
M602486 1637 - 1669 0639754

In Nicolas de Anda Sanchez's new book he has listed Teresa as Teresa Ulloa
Ruiz Esparza married Capt. Juan de Escobedo on 6 June 1669 in Teocaltiche.

In my book I'm working on, I have:

Ruiz de Esparza, Maria
The daughter of Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Francisca Gabay. She married Nicolas
de Ulloa. Her parents were known residents of Aguascalientes from 1622 to
1652. She is mentioned in the requested marriage dispensation of her
granddaughter, Elvira de Ulloa to Joseph de Torres on 1 January 1689 in
Teocaltiche, Jalisco.

Rose Gonzales-Hardy

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Dream Trip

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Hi "Dreamers"

I would like to make a couple of suggestions for your dream trip. I will not be making the trip since I was there last year.

Flying to Guadalajara and making it your starting point for the trip is an excellent idea. From Guadalajara there are several
ways you can go:

1.-Guadalajara, Yahualica (there is a good sea food restaurant right as you turn off the main road to go into Yahualica, their
specialty is "Pescado Sarandeado" ) Mexticacán, Nochistlán, Teocaltiche , Villa Hidalgo ( Villa Hidalgo is a big textile manufacturing
center. There is a huge shopping center in the middle of town where people from all over the country come to buy clothing for their
shopes or boutiques wholesale and retail. Good bargains can be found here). The town also has an excellent Chinese food restaurant
in case you get tired of Mexican food. Villa Hidalgo is almost half way between Teocaltiche and Aguascalientes. From Aguascalientes you'll probably want to continue north to Rincón de Romos and on to Zacatecas about 80 miles from Aguas. Zacatecas has an airport with daily scheduled
flights north in case you choose to return that way, but then, that would only be half the trip!

The return trip from Zacatecas, Aguascalientes and then on to San Juan de Los Lagos, Jalostotitlán ( here you can go to Santa Ana
and visit Santo Toribio, you don't want to miss this! ) Tepatitlán, (famous for it's "Carnitas") and Guadalajara. Instead of going directly into Guadalajara, the trip should take you Chapala and Ajijic. A beautiful, lush, green, place on the shore of Lake Chapala. Here, you are only about 30 miles south of Guadalajara.
2.- The other Option would be to fly into Zacatecas and start your trip from North to South or
3.- Fly to Aguascalientes and split your days. Two or three days to go north to Zacatecas and then the rest to go to Guadalajara and return to Aguascalientes, make it your "Home base" .

These are only suggestions...The members of the group making the trip should decide where, when and which way they want to go.
Planning is the key to any succesful and enjoyable trip. I am sure all of you will enjoy it and will have a lifetime of memories from it.

I know most of you have already thought about this, but I'll remind you anyway: A U.S. Passport or Green Card will be required. A digital camera is a must, and maybe a small voice recorder for interviews, and last but not least: Imodium A-D.

John González
Wildomar, CA.

1gnzlz@verizon.net

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Villalobos en Jalisco

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>
> Hola Alfonso,

Yo tengo unos Villalobos de San Juan de los Lagos, Jalisco que tal vez esten
emparentados con los tuyos. Mi 5to tatarabuelo José Segundo Villalobos
casado con María Ynes Medina fueron padres de: mi 4ta tatarabuela Agapita
Villalobos y de Joseff Julián Villalobos. Joseff Julián fue bautizado en
San Juan de los Lagos el 30 de Enero de 1780. Agapita Villalobos se caso
con José María Eusebio Sánchez. No tengo mas datos de esta familia.

Saludos,

Maria Elena Cortez

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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Villalobos en Jalisco
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> Hola Gina,
>
> Es necesario como menciona Alicia Avelar saber de d?nde eran originarios
> tus ancestros. Mis ancestros Villalobos aparecen en Encarnaci?n de D?az
> Jalisco y el ancestro que tengo en el siglo XVIII que es Andr?s de
> Villalobos casado con Mar?a Guadalupe Soto Mayor y Rivera, aparece que el
> fue bautizado en la Mesa, pero la Hacienda de la Mesa de los Villalobos
> estaba en Lagos de Moreno, en las mismas tierras donde se encuentra el cerro
> llamado de la Mesa Redonda, que a su vez esas tierras hab?an sido mercedadas
> al capit?n Pedro de Anda a finales del siglo XVI. Por este dato los
> Villalobos deben de haber tenido su origen en Lagos de Moreno y una rama
> emigr? a Encarnaci?n de D?az, Jalisco.
>
> Tal vez haya alguna relaci?n con Ruy de Villalobos, pero no he llegado m?s
> all? hasta el momento.
>
> Saludos,
>
> Alfonso Gonz?lez
>
>
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>

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_http://www.infobayarea.com/articles/mexicanwedding.htm_
(http://www.infobayarea.com/articles/mexicanwedding.htm)

The Indigenous custom of using flowers sounds very beautiful. The lazo
which is a rather large rosary used for marriage ceremony is also very
meaningful in having Our Lady's blessing of the union.

Irma G.L.
N. California

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Date: Sat, 12 Aug 2006 00:05:30 EDT
From: Latina1955@aol.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Mexican Marriage Traditions
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
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This is an interesting article about the meaning and survival of some of
our
Mexican wedding traditions. The only thing that I disagree with is the

"lasso" - I heard that the indigenous had used flowers to encircle the
couple,
and this was substituted with the "lasso - rosario" with the Spanish
influence.
Who knows - but it is interesting nevertheless!

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Update on Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake City October 2006

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The Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake City will be held Friday, October 13th
and Saturday, October 14, 2006. There is no charge for any of the
seminars and you do not have to pre-register. All the presentations will be
in Spanish and the speakers are bilingual. The schedules will follow in a
separate e-mail.

1. Salt Lake Plaza Best Western Hotel has a limited number rooms for us at
$82.00 plus tax for a room for two persons. It is located next door to the
FHC Library. Their website is:
www.plaza-hotel.com and their toll free number is: 1-800-366-3684. You have
to mention "Ranchos Genealogy Group" to get the discounted price since there
are a few rooms reserved for us. There is NO free continental breakfast
but they have a nice restaurant that serves a buffet as well as good menu
selections. Since October is a very busy time for them I was only able to
hold a small block of rooms from October 8th through October 15th. You can
choose to stay ANY number of days between Oct 8th - 15th but you would have
to check with them to see if rooms are available for any other dates.

2. Howard Johnson Express Inn offers us a rate of $35.00 plus tax (total
$39.32) for a single queen bed room and a rate of $49.00 plus tax (total
$55.05) for a
room with two double beds for 1 to 4 persons. Go to "Google" and type in
"Howard Johnson Express Salt Lake City" to see their facility. Their toll
free number is: 1-800-541-7639. Ask for Mira or Connie and mention
"Ranchos Genealogy Group" for the special rate. They offer a FREE
continental breakfast (coffee, juice, bagels, cold cereal, etc) and they
are walking distance from the Library (about two blocks). There is a free
trolley that passes nearby and takes you to the Library if you do not want
to walk. This hotel is able to provide rooms for us for any number of days
you might need......provided reservations are made EARLY.

Both hotels provide shuttle service to and from the airport. Upon your
arrival at the Salt Lake City airport you can call 801-521-3450 for shuttle
service to Howard Johnson Express Inn. For those staying at the Salt Lake
Plaza Best Western you can call 801-521-0130 for their shuttle service.
There are courtesy telephones available near the baggage area of the
airport.

Each person will be responsible for making their own reservations, travel
arrangements, etc

Please let me know if you are interested in going, the number of persons
attending, the dates you will attend, etc.

Josie Trevino-Trevino

San Antonio, TX

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Teresa Ruiz de Esparza

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Is anybody researching the Ruiz de Esparza family? I believe they are centered in Aguascalientes. I am specifically looking for the ancestry of a certain Teresa Ruiz de Esparza born circa 1600-1650 and married to Juan de Escobedo.

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Josie, I'm not sure this is what you're interested in, but I was at the UTSA FHC this evening, and the librarian said he could make photos of microfilm entries for me there. I thanked him, but I had nothing to photograph, yet. If this is what you need, perhaps your FHC could communicate with this one. Alice Blake

--- josiett3@satx.rr.com wrote:

From: "Josie T. Trevino"
To: , "'Alicia Carrillo'"
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Update on Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake CityOctober 2006
Date: Thu, 24 Aug 2006 20:42:16 -0500

Hi Alicia!

I will keep you posted when I hear from others as to where everyone is
staying.

On another subject, In April 2006 you responded to John on the subject of
viewers at the FHCs. You mentioned that you have learned to take photos of
the documents at the viewers using a mat board and that you needed to use a
tripod to steady the photo. How did that turn out? I tried this today at
the FHC but I must be doing something wrong because it did not work.......I
used a mini-tripod. Please let me know if you have had success doing this.

Thanks a lot! I will be in touch soon about the hotel rooms.

Josie in San Antonio

-----Original Message-----
From: general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Alicia
Carrillo
Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 11:23 AM
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Update on Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake
CityOctober 2006

Thanks Josie for all the legwork to help get us there.

I stayed at the Howard Johnson Express during my one and only visit. The
rooms are very comfortable and it is within walking distance. I would like
to stay there again if I go and would like to know if anyone else is staying
there? I would rather not share a room with anyone and this is affordable
for me. Only problem is walking home alone late in the evening. It is not
the best of neighborhoods at night, typical downtown with vagrants etc. If
there is someone to walk back with I will make my plans to come to the
conference and stay a couple of days to do some research and meet and
socialize with my fellow Ranchos members.

Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo
San Jose, Calif

----- Original Message ----
From: Josie T. Trevino
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 5:04:43 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Update on Hispanic Conference in Salt Lake City
October 2006

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Nuestra Familia Unida

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The http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com podcast project needs your help.
Please contact those around you that are knowledgeable about Latin
American History and ask if they would be willing to create an Audio
file for the project. Here is my contact info: NFU@JosephPuentes.com
The planning committee for the project is located here:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/podhi/
This month we have added many new Audio Contributions. In the
"Mujer" section Dr. Jean Stuntz discusses her book: "Hers, His, and
Theirs: Community Property Law in Spain and Early Texas." In the
"Coyote" Section you can hear "Black-Brown Relations in NC" from the
State of Things NPR radio show. There is also a great podcast in the
History section: "St. Patrick's Battalion of the Mexican-American War"
along with several others on Bullfighting and Columbus. There are also
many new entries for the "En La Historia" podcast in Spanish in the
History Section. In the "Oral History" Section there is new material by
Frank Sifuentes. Soon I'll be adding new links in the Archaeology
Section of the podcast.

http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com information about the podcast:
NFU@JosephPuentes.com

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Hola,

Es mi primer día que entro a este Portal y apenas lo estoy conociendo. Me gusta investigar de genealogía, he investigado del área de Saltillo, Coah., pero también estoy investigando de mis otras líneas que son de los ALTOS DE JALISCO (Teocaltiche, Jalostotitlán, San Miguel el Alto, San Juan de los Lagos, Encarnación, Lagos de Moreno).

Las líneas que investigo y me interesan son: GONZALEZ, GONZALEZ DE HERMOSILLO, RAMÍREZ, RAMÍREZ DE HERMOSILLO, DE ANDA ALTAMIRANO, ALVAREZ TOSTADO, MORÁN DE LEDEZMA, VILLALOBOS, etc.

Me interesa también mucho investigar la línea genealógica de los hijos de Petronila de Moctezuma. En algunos apellidos tengo mi línea genealógica hasta 1545 aproximadamente.

Regards,
Alfonso González

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Hello,

This is my first day accesing this website. I've investigated about the area of Saltillo, Coah, but also I´m doing research about other family lines in los ALTOS DE JALISCO. (Teocaltiche, Jalostotitlán, San Miguel el Alto, San Juan de los Lagos, Encarnación, Lagos de Moreno).

My family lines I´m doing a research are: GONZALEZ, GONZALEZ DE HERMOSILLO, RAMÍREZ, RAMÍREZ DE HERMOSILLO, DE ANDA ALTAMIRANO, ALVAREZ TOSTADO, MORÁN DE LEDEZMA, VILLALOBOS, etc.

I´m also very interested in doing a research about Petronila de Moctezuma descendants. Some of the last names I've done a research are traced to 1545 aproximately.

Atentamente,
Alfonso González

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Where is this conference at and how does one register?

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Gaspar Macias Valadez and Mariana Torres

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Hello everyone:

Gaspar Macias Valadez married Mariana Torres in 1612 and they had:Nicolas Macias Valadez 1613, Blas Macias Valadez 1615, Polonia Macias Valadez 1617, Maria Macias Tavera or Vasquez de Retamosa 1620. Do anyone has a marriage for any of Gaspar and Mariana´s childen?

Gaspar Macias Valadez was the son of Nicolas Macias Valadez and Leonor de Retamosa, Mariana Torres was the daughter of Nicolas Ramirez and Polonia de Torres.

Best Regards
Jose Humberto Suarez Villarreal

Hola a todos:

Gaspar Macias Valadez se caso con Mariana Torres en 1612 y tuvieron a: Nicolas Macias Valadez 1613, Blas Macias Valadez 1615, Polonia Macias Valadez 1617, Maria Macias Tavera o Vasquez de Retamosa 1620. ¿Alguien tiene información de si se casó alguno de los hjijos o hijas de Gaspar y Mariana?

Gaspar Macias Valadez fue el hijo de Nicolas Macias Valadez y Leonor de Retamosa, Mariana Torres fue la hija de Nicolas Ramirez y Polonia de Torres.

Saludos
Jose Humberto Suarez Villarreal

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Info on Borderlands Bookstores

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I don't see why not. George Farias gets some of his books from Mexico. Just send him an email.
--
Esther A. Herold

-------------- Original message from Jose Humberto Suarez : --------------

>
> Hello,
>
> I

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Need help!

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I need help finding an old posting regarding using a mini tripod to take a
digital photo of contents on a microfilm while doing research......does
anyone remember who posted this info? All I can remember is that it sounded
great but now I cannot find the posting in the archives. If anyone knows
what I am talking about, please enlighten me~!

Thanks!

Josie in San Antonio

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Gedcom at rootsweb site

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is it possible to transfer a gedcom file situated in www.rootsweb.com to www.nuestrosranchos.org? if it is could some of the moderators do it for me?
database: marionicia, individual I1418 (read this as capital letter I and number 1418)

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Saturday schedule, October 14, 2006 for SLC Hispanic Conference

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This is one of the attachments I could not send previously. Please let me
know if anyone has any questions. Thanks! Josie in SA

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Novena Conferencia Anual de Historia Familiar Hispaña

Sábado 14 de octubre de 2006

Horario de clases

Primer Piso

Sala de computadoras

(Manos en obra)

Primer Piso
Sala de clases

(Genealogía por paises)

2º Piso
Sala de clases
(Capacitación para especialistas de historia familiar)

Piso Subterráneo 1
Salón de clases

(Investigación básica)

Piso Subterráneo 2
Salón de clases
(Investigación intermedia y avanzada)

9:30

Regístrese en el vestíbulo de la Biblioteca de Historia Familiar

10:00

Introducción del

FamilySearch.org

José Sanchez

Genealogía en Centro América

Lynn Turner

Cómo ayudar al principiante a empezar

Leandro Soria

Diccionarios geográficos en Latinoamérica

Ruth Schirmacher

Archivos diocesanos

George Ryskamp

11:00

PAF principiantes

José Sanchez

Genealogía Mexicana en el Internet

Lynn Turner

Cómo usar el Centro de Historia Familiar

Mike Provard

Registros parroquiales

Peggy Ryskamp

Investigación en archivos nacionales de España y Latinoamérica desde los
Estados Unidos

George Ryskamp

12:00

Almuerzo (por su propia cuenta)

1:00

Cómo preparar nombres para TempleReady

José Sanchez

Genealogía en La Argentina

Leandro Soria

Cómo usar el catálogo de la Biblioteca de Historia Familiar (FHLC)

Irene Jiménez

Cómo usar el registro civil

Candela Romero

Archivos municipales

George Ryskamp

2:00

Proyectos para la creación de índices

FCH/Leandro Soria

Genealogía en España

Peggy and George Ryskamp

Cómo superar obstáculos en la búsqueda

Jennifer Kerns

Censos y similares

Liz Miller

Cómo leer la escritura antigua

Ruth Schirmacher

3:00

Consultas de investigación genealógica - B1

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