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Hi Peggy,

It appears to be so.  Such is the case of those films from Valparaiso 
that started this discussion.  What you can do is go to the Family 
History Library Catalog and do a Place Search

http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

Then select the place out of the list;  in the place details select 
the topic of your interest, for example, Church records.  Then in 
topic details select one of the titles.  Finaly, in the title details 
click the upper right button "View Film Details".  

There you will see all the films that are available for the locality 
of your choice, whether they are in the IGI or not.  Hope this helps!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Peggy Delgado" <peggydee@c...> wrote:
> I have a question.  I was looking for some film numbers on the LDS 
library
> (for my great-grandmother) and they stopped at a certain year and I 
needed
> them to go farther.  Does this mean that they, the microfilms and 
their
> numbers, haven't been captured yet?  I was afraid that they
just 
didn't
> exist.
> 
> Peggy Delgado
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Victor Villarreal [mailto:vela_este@y...]
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 8:41 PM
> To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: [ranchos] Re: % of Films Transcribed to IGI
> 
> 
> Joseph, I'm afraid that the percentage of films yet to be captured 
to
> the IGI is quite significant, because using the batch number list in
> Ranchos2 and going thru the list number by number for several
> localities of my interest many of them didn't return any records.
> And I mean any records, not just the ones I'm looking for.
> 
> This is an unexpected finding for me.  Any comments?
> 
> Victor
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> > well thank you so much for this work you are 
doing. . .commendable.
> I
> > thought about doing it but realized I couldn't commit to that kind
> of
> > committment. I did a volunteer job on the 1910 Census and boy that
> use a
> > lot of time. So I can't do it again unless my situation changes.
> Thanks
> > for your efforts. What area are you working on? Have you done 
other

Joseph, I'm afraid that the percentage of films yet to be captured to 
the IGI is quite significant, because using the batch number list in 
Ranchos2 and going thru the list number by number for several 
localities of my interest many of them didn't return any records.  
And I mean any records, not just the ones I'm looking for.

This is an unexpected finding for me.  Any comments?

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> well thank you so much for this work you are doing. . .commendable. 
I 
> thought about doing it but realized I couldn't commit to that kind 
of 
> committment. I did a volunteer job on the 1910 Census and boy that 
use a 
> lot of time. So I can't do it again unless my situation changes. 
Thanks 
> for your efforts. What area are you working on? Have you done other 
> films? Is there a list of films somewhere that has which films are 
in 
> "Que" to be done next? Are there other Jalisco, Zacatecas, or 
> Aguascalientes films that might be happening soon.
> 
> Gracias Jose para su trabajo!
> 
> joseph
> 
> zendean wrote:
> 
> > Joseph;  Yes, I am one of the those volunteers that 
does "extraction" 

Go to http://home.earthlink.net

If you have a problem logging on to Steve's
genealogical website, go to www.google.com and just
put-Steve Campos genealogical-and hopefully it will
come up.

There are above 22 Macias listed on Steve's website,
all from Jerez.

Good luck.

Alberto.

--- zendean <usa20@...> wrote:

> Albert;  Thank you for your reply. How would I get
> to Steve Campos' 
> genealogy site ? I don't know how to do it.
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Jose Macias
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alberto Duarte" <albertodua@...>
> To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 1:17 PM
> Subject: Re: [ranchos] Los Macias de Jerez,
> Zacatecas-Alberto
> 
> 
> >
> > No, I don't, but if you check Steve Campos
> genealogy
> > on our group site, I believe you may find a Macias
> > listed.
> >
> > Good luck.
> >
> > Alberto.
> >
> > --- zendean <usa20@...> wrote:
> >
> >> Alberto;  My grandparents came from Jerez,
> >> Zacatecas. That is all that I
> >> know about them. Maybe you can help me, if you
> will.
> >> My grandfather was
> >> Feliciano Macias. Do you have a link to the
> Macias
> >> clan in Jerez?
> >>
> >> Jose Macias
> >> usa20@...
> >>
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Alberto Duarte" <albertodua@...>
> >> To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
> >> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:08 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ranchos] Soriano de Zacatecas
> >>
> >>
> >> >
> >> > Welcome.  My father's side of the family was
> also
> >> from
> >> > Jerez, Zacatecas--great people.
> >> >
> >> > Alberto.
> >> >
> >> > --- heliotropx
> >> <Jeannette_Soriano@...>
> >> > wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Hola!
> >> >>
> >> >> I'm glad I stumbled onto this group because my
> >> >> mother and I just
> >> >> started researching into our family's roots
> and
> >> we
> >> >> would love to learn

Victor; I don't know the percentages. I know that I have a stack of 2,500
names that must be reviewed for posting and I am still working on the film..
I think that there are others who still are working on a film for the
postings. I wish I had a book with just names to use as a reference !
After I finish there is a review of those that I've done soas to be sure
that the names i have cleared are then reviewed for correctness. Those that
still can not be read are reviewed and later posted to Salt Lake. Some I can
clearly read but have never seen such a name before.
Yes, you are correct, there are new names being cleared everyday and
sent for posting. I am working on a the baptisms for a church in South
American from 1890-1895. Others are extracting names from films in other
countries and locations. It takes a long time because I want it to be
correct and hopw someone somewhere is extracting the line I am waiting to
see.

Jose Macias

----- Original Message -----
From: "Victor Villarreal" <vela_este@...>

Alberto; Thank you for your reply. How would I get to Steve Campos'
genealogy site ? I don't know how to do it.

Thank you,

Jose Macias

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alberto Duarte" <albertodua@...>

To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, February 21, 2005 1:17 PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Los Macias de Jerez, Zacatecas-Alberto

No, I don't, but if you check Steve Campos genealogy
on our group site, I believe you may find a Macias
listed.

Good luck.

Alberto.

--- zendean <usa20@...> wrote:

Alberto;  My grandparents came from Jerez,
Zacatecas. That is all that I
know about them. Maybe you can help me, if you will.
My grandfather was
Feliciano Macias. Do you have a link to the Macias
clan in Jerez?

Jose Macias
usa20@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alberto Duarte" <albertodua@...>

I just started a new Album in the Photos section of the group. It's
called Ranchero's y Rancherita's. If anyone else would care to why not
put your picture (singular) in the Album. Make sure you put your
complete name on it and email address would be good too if there is
enough room. 

thanks,

joseph

ps: Thank you Alicia Carrillo for sending along the picture of you and
Helyn, Rich and Kitty that got this started. 

No, I don't, but if you check Steve Campos genealogy
on our group site, I believe you may find a Macias
listed.

Good luck.

Alberto.

--- zendean <usa20@...> wrote:

> Alberto;  My grandparents came from Jerez,
> Zacatecas. That is all that I 
> know about them. Maybe you can help me, if you will.
> My grandfather was 
> Feliciano Macias. Do you have a link to the Macias
> clan in Jerez?
> 
> Jose Macias
> usa20@...
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Alberto Duarte" <albertodua@...>
> To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:08 PM
> Subject: Re: [ranchos] Soriano de Zacatecas
> 
> 
> >
> > Welcome.  My father's side of the family was also
> from
> > Jerez, Zacatecas--great people.
> >
> > Alberto.
> >
> > --- heliotropx
> <Jeannette_Soriano@...>
> > wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> Hola!
> >>
> >> I'm glad I stumbled onto this group because my
> >> mother and I just
> >> started researching into our family's roots and
> we
> >> would love to learn
> >> and contribute to this group.  My name is
> Jeannette
> >> Soriano Gonzalez
> >> and most of my family on both sides lives in the
> Los
> >> Angeles/Ontario,
> >> CA area.  However, my father's family is from La
> >> Ermita de Guadalupe,
> >> a pueblo near Jerez, ZAC.  I am looking for the
> >> following surnames
> >> from La Ermita:  Soriano, Ultreras, Trujillo &
> >> Landeros.  My mother's
> >> father is from Venustiano Carranza (formerly San
> >> Gabriel), JAL.  The
> >> surnames I'm looking for there are Gonzalez and
> >> Baltazar.   My
> >> mother's mother family moved around a lot, but
> they
> >> originated from
> >> Michoacan towns such as Iztlan, Tanuhato & Sauayo
> >> (sp?).  The names
> >> I'm looking for there are Alvarez, Espinoza,
> Ramirez
> >> & Salazar.
> >>
> >> I'm looking forward to reading through the list
> and
> >> putting our
> >> geneology line up once we input into the Family
> Tree
> >> Maker software we
> >> bought recently!  Would appreciate any help and
> tips
> >> as we start out

Hello Jose,

Thanks for your message and for your magnificent work.  I suppose 
there are many more volunteers like you.  The work you have done
ís 
outstanding, to say the least!

So, if I understand correctly, even for those batch numbers that are 
already published on the IGI database, is it possible that you might 
have skipped one or more of those illegible entries?  How frequently 
are you faced with a situation like this?

Well, that means that even if we haven't found a particular record on 
the IGI there's still hope that we could find it in the microfilm 
itself.  And that goes also for the records in those microfilms that 
haven't been captured yet, of course.

Anyway, back to the original question.  Do you have an idea, just an 
approximation about the percentage of films that have already been 
transcribed to the IGI?

Thanks again!

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "zendean" <usa20@e...> wrote:
> Joseph;  Yes, I am one of the those volunteers that 
does "extraction" from the films for posting. It takes a long time 
because I can't do it full time and there are names that I come 
across that I have never seen before and have no clue as to what they 
are. Especially the Indian names and the ancient fathers spelled 
names as they sounded.  Two different fathers will spell a name 
different for the same person - baptism and later marriage.  Maybe we 
haven't gotten to the records in question yet. It is a slow process.
> 
> Jose
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Joseph Puentes 
>   To: esteban vela ; LosRanchos 
>   Cc: Jonathan Walker 
>   Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 3:58 PM
>   Subject: [ranchos] % of Films Transcribed to IGI
> 
> 
>   Well I'm thinking about it and I'm taking this discussion to the 
group. . .
> 
>   oh absolutely I understand what you are asking now. Yes yes it 
takes volunteers to transscribe the info off of the films to then 
input into the IGI and other databases. When it comes down to it I'm 
sure that only a very small % of the films available are online. If 
you want Valpariso maybe you should call SLC and ask them about 
it. . .hey maybe you could be one of the volunteer transcribers 
though it would take an enormous amount of time. I'm going to forward 
this conversation to Jonathan Walker to see if he might care to 
comment. 
> 
>   Jonathan what % of the films would you guess are on the IGI? This 

Alberto; My grandparents came from Jerez, Zacatecas. That is all that I
know about them. Maybe you can help me, if you will. My grandfather was
Feliciano Macias. Do you have a link to the Macias clan in Jerez?

Jose Macias
usa20@...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alberto Duarte" <albertodua@...>

To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, February 20, 2005 5:08 PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Soriano de Zacatecas

Welcome.  My father's side of the family was also from
Jerez, Zacatecas--great people.

Alberto.

--- heliotropx <Jeannette_Soriano@...>
wrote:

Hola!

I'm glad I stumbled onto this group because my
mother and I just
started researching into our family's roots and we
would love to learn
and contribute to this group.  My name is Jeannette
Soriano Gonzalez
and most of my family on both sides lives in the Los
Angeles/Ontario,
CA area.  However, my father's family is from La
Ermita de Guadalupe,
a pueblo near Jerez, ZAC.  I am looking for the
following surnames
from La Ermita:  Soriano, Ultreras, Trujillo &
Landeros.  My mother's
father is from Venustiano Carranza (formerly San
Gabriel), JAL.  The
surnames I'm looking for there are Gonzalez and
Baltazar.   My
mother's mother family moved around a lot, but they
originated from
Michoacan towns such as Iztlan, Tanuhato & Sauayo
(sp?).  The names
I'm looking for there are Alvarez, Espinoza, Ramirez
& Salazar.

I'm looking forward to reading through the list and
putting our
geneology line up once we input into the Family Tree
Maker software we
bought recently!  Would appreciate any help and tips
as we start out
journey!

Gracias,

Jeannette Soriano Gonzalez

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Welcome.  My father's side of the family was also from
Jerez, Zacatecas--great people.

Alberto.

--- heliotropx <Jeannette_Soriano@...>
wrote:

> 
> Hola!
> 
> I'm glad I stumbled onto this group because my
> mother and I just
> started researching into our family's roots and we
> would love to learn
> and contribute to this group.  My name is Jeannette
> Soriano Gonzalez
> and most of my family on both sides lives in the Los
> Angeles/Ontario,
> CA area.  However, my father's family is from La
> Ermita de Guadalupe,
> a pueblo near Jerez, ZAC.  I am looking for the
> following surnames
> from La Ermita:  Soriano, Ultreras, Trujillo &
> Landeros.  My mother's
> father is from Venustiano Carranza (formerly San
> Gabriel), JAL.  The
> surnames I'm looking for there are Gonzalez and
> Baltazar.   My
> mother's mother family moved around a lot, but they
> originated from
> Michoacan towns such as Iztlan, Tanuhato & Sauayo
> (sp?).  The names
> I'm looking for there are Alvarez, Espinoza, Ramirez
> & Salazar. 
> 
> I'm looking forward to reading through the list and
> putting our
> geneology line up once we input into the Family Tree
> Maker software we
> bought recently!  Would appreciate any help and tips
> as we start out
> journey!
> 
> Gracias,
> 
> Jeannette Soriano Gonzalez
> 
> 
> 
> 


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Hola!

I'm glad I stumbled onto this group because my mother and I just
started researching into our family's roots and we would love to learn
and contribute to this group.  My name is Jeannette Soriano Gonzalez
and most of my family on both sides lives in the Los Angeles/Ontario,
CA area.  However, my father's family is from La Ermita de Guadalupe,
a pueblo near Jerez, ZAC.  I am looking for the following surnames
from La Ermita:  Soriano, Ultreras, Trujillo & Landeros.  My mother's
father is from Venustiano Carranza (formerly San Gabriel), JAL.  The
surnames I'm looking for there are Gonzalez and Baltazar.   My
mother's mother family moved around a lot, but they originated from
Michoacan towns such as Iztlan, Tanuhato & Sauayo (sp?).  The names
I'm looking for there are Alvarez, Espinoza, Ramirez & Salazar. 

I'm looking forward to reading through the list and putting our
geneology line up once we input into the Family Tree Maker software we
bought recently!  Would appreciate any help and tips as we start out
journey!

Gracias,

Jeannette Soriano Gonzalez