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From: Joseph Puentes <makas@...>
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?
Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:10:28 -0500

other than California I know that we have a member in VA, I'm in NC, you in
OH, and TX oh and UT and MA

anyone else on the East Coast?

joseph


Carol Lester wrote:

It is so exciting isn't it?!! As for a reunion, that would be grand!!! I
live in Ohio, however..and I am assuming a lot of the ranchos group live in
California, and the surrounding states?

 Carol


-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes
Sent: Mar 9, 2005 2:54 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family

Familia. . .la Familia esta Reunida!

what joy. . .congratulations you all. . .when is the party? Am I invited? I
might be in CA in August. Long Beach again for a Diaz-Roman reunion.

joseph


Carol Lester wrote:

Hello right back to you also!! I just posted a reply to Angie on the
mesage board. There are many other names that are in her files that I
also have in mine. I have not put them all into a genealogy report form
as yet, but I do have the records!! And YES!!!, I definately want all the
details! It is so awesome to find "kin"! Your Cousin,

Carol




-----Original Message-----
From: lareina2@...
Sent: Mar 8, 2005 11:43 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family

Thanks, Angie. Carol, you are related to me, since, as Angie noticed, you
descend from Juan Manuel Campos, the son of Juan de Campos and Antonia de
Soto Almeyda. Antonia was the daughter of Francisco de Soto Almeyda and
Juana Magdalena de Salazar, and Antonia was the sister of my ancestor,
Diego de Soto Almeyda. How exciting! Welcome to ranchos, cousin! Write
to me if you want more details.

I'm a Castaneda, Miramontes, Rodriguez (mostlikely) and Diaz from
Tlaltenango. . .unfortuneately I don't have a lot of info and trying to
make those connections with the 4 of yall might be somewhere down the
road as in months or even years. But I just wanted you all to know that
I might easily be your primo as well. . .might I suggest you make me an
"HP" in the mean time (honorary primo) and if we find the connection
we'll delete the "H" or if we find proof of "no relation" then we'll
remove both the "H" and the "P"? what do you all think, primas?

joseph

ps: of don't forget that Helyn Sparkman de Castaneda is also a Castaneda
from Tlaltenango, but we haven't be able to make that connection either.
And Steven Hernandez is a Miramontes from Tlaltenango. Isn't life grand?

Carol Lester wrote:

Hello Maria:

I have been working most of the day on all these surnames and I think I may go crazy!!  Anyway..I have all of those surnames and will check yours with  mine and get back with you...I am sure we will connect somewhere!  Thanks so much for letting me know!

Regards,
Carol

-----Original Message-----
From: readysetgo95814 <nena@...>
Sent: Mar 9, 2005 2:15 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango



Angie, Carol and Rosalinda:

I am researching the same surnames from Zacatecaz. I have some
direct line ancestors that might tie in to yours somehow. One
couple: Manuel Castañeda married to Maria Antonia de la Torre on 16
Nov 1738 in Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román. Manuel was the son of
Pedro Castañeda and María Ulloa. I also have Pedro Castañeda (son of
Manuel) married to María Gertrudis Luna on 13 Jul 1765 in
Tepechitlán, Zacatecaz. I have documented 9 children from the
marriage of Manuel Castañeda and Maria Antonia de la Torre. Let me
know if any of these names tie into one of your lines.

Hello Maria:

I have been working most of the day on all these surnames and I think I may go crazy!!  Anyway..I have all of those surnames and will check yours with  mine and get back with you...I am sure we will connect somewhere!  Thanks so much for letting me know!

Regards,
Carol

-----Original Message-----
From: readysetgo95814 <nena@...>
Sent: Mar 9, 2005 2:15 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Castañeda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango



Angie, Carol and Rosalinda:

I am researching the same surnames from Zacatecaz.  I have some 
direct line ancestors that might tie in to yours somehow.  One 
couple:  Manuel Castañeda married to Maria Antonia de la Torre on 16 
Nov 1738 in Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román.  Manuel was the son of 
Pedro Castañeda and María Ulloa. I also have Pedro Castañeda (son of 
Manuel) married to María Gertrudis Luna on 13 Jul 1765 in 
Tepechitlán, Zacatecaz.  I have documented 9 children from the 
marriage of Manuel Castañeda and Maria Antonia de la Torre.  Let me 
know if any of these names tie into one of your lines.

Maria Cortez





 
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Angie, Carol and Rosalinda:

I am researching the same surnames from Zacatecaz.  I have some 
direct line ancestors that might tie in to yours somehow.  One 
couple:  Manuel Castañeda married to Maria Antonia de la Torre on 16 
Nov 1738 in Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román.  Manuel was the son of 
Pedro Castañeda and María Ulloa. I also have Pedro Castañeda (son of 
Manuel) married to María Gertrudis Luna on 13 Jul 1765 in 
Tepechitlán, Zacatecaz.  I have documented 9 children from the 
marriage of Manuel Castañeda and Maria Antonia de la Torre.  Let me 
know if any of these names tie into one of your lines.

Maria Cortez

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I have Magallanes and Robles in my line too, 

Let me know if you need any info.

--- Carol Lester <NanaCarolL@...> wrote:

---------------------------------
Angie:
 
I was reading your files tonight and came across many
other surnames we share, and will need to cross check
to see if they connect somewhere:
 
Besides Campos and Castaneda: De La Torre(s); De Luna;
Magallanes; Miromontes; Robles; Sanchez;Ulloa;
Valensuela.
 
I think there are others too, but  I want to go back
through my records to make sure what they are.  Also,
they are from the same areas as your ancestors, and
same time period.  Will get back with you when i have
done some more research.  We absolutely connect!!
 
Regards,
Carol

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Javier M. Barrios

Alicia,

In reviewing the batch numbers to Nochistlan, there are many batch
numbers for Nochistlan, they go from 1627 to 1875.  1875 to about 1885
seems to be the magic cutoff years, for the extraction program. 

Jonathan



--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@p...> wrote:
> Joseph, Jonathan and the Group,
>  
> In preparation for my trip to Salt Lake City and while scouring the
family history website I find that for my area of research,
Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico there is no extracted data to be found
before 1875. 
>  
> My question to the group is could that mean that the records prior
to 1875 were stored some place else under another municipality's name
or could it be that they just haven't been extracted, therefore not on
the IGI database.
>  
> According to the family history catalog, they show the film logs
from the present all the way back to the 1600's with the authors as
Mexico, Zacatecas, Nochistlan-and identify if they're church records
or civil records. This leads me to believe that the records do exist
because they have film numbers assigned to them, I just can't find any
data associated with film numbers of data and facts dated before 1875.
>  
> I did send an e-mail to the SLC family history center inquiring
about this but I have not received a response yet.
>  
> Alicia Carrillo

Rosalinda

-----Original Message-----
From: aajay1073
Sent: Mar 8, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family


Carol and I share the same Campos family.  I have traced this Campos
family to the early 1700's in Tlaltenango, Zacatecas.  She also has
Castaneda from Tlaltenango, Zacatecas that are from the same time
period and location as my Castaneda...so well see if there is a match
there.

Note to Rosalinda and Stella,
Carol also shares our Soto family.  Maria Antonia De Soto, married to
Fernando Silvestre De Urena, is a cousin to Juan Manuel Campos Soto.

Angie

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-----Original Message-----
From: aajay1073
Sent: Mar 8, 2005 3:25 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family


Carol and I share the same Campos family.  I have traced this Campos
family to the early 1700's in Tlaltenango, Zacatecas.  She also has
Castaneda from Tlaltenango, Zacatecas that are from the same time
period and location as my Castaneda...so well see if there is a match
there.

Note to Rosalinda and Stella,
Carol also shares our Soto family.  Maria Antonia De Soto, married to
Fernando Silvestre De Urena, is a cousin to Juan Manuel Campos Soto.

Angie

I can't match your name to your email address. contact me please.

thanks,

joseph

Carol and I share the same Campos family.  I have traced this Campos 
family to the early 1700's in Tlaltenango, Zacatecas.  She also has 
Castaneda from Tlaltenango, Zacatecas that are from the same time 
period and location as my Castaneda...so well see if there is a match 
there.

Note to Rosalinda and Stella,
Carol also shares our Soto family.  Maria Antonia De Soto, married to 
Fernando Silvestre De Urena, is a cousin to Juan Manuel Campos Soto.

Angie

Hello Alicia,

This sounds like a similar case to Valparaiso, Zac.  and other 
localities, where there are films but the data hasn't been extracted 
yet for the IGI.

Please let us know when you get a reply from SLC Family history 
Center.

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@p...> wrote:
> Joseph, Jonathan and the Group,
>  
> In preparation for my trip to Salt Lake City and while scouring the 
family history website I find that for my area of research, 
Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico there is no extracted data to be found 
before 1875. 
>  
> My question to the group is could that mean that the records prior 
to 1875 were stored some place else under another municipality's name 
or could it be that they just haven't been extracted, therefore not 
on the IGI database.
>  
> According to the family history catalog, they show the film logs 
from the present all the way back to the 1600's with the authors as 
Mexico, Zacatecas, Nochistlan-and identify if they're church records 
or civil records. This leads me to believe that the records do exist 
because they have film numbers assigned to them, I just can't find 
any data associated with film numbers of data and facts dated before 
1875.
>  
> I did send an e-mail to the SLC family history center inquiring 
about this but I have not received a response yet.
>  
> Alicia Carrillo

To read more about the conference to be held at National Archives, 
Washington, DC, see the Somos Primos website - at the bottom, click 
on NARA.  The basics, as I understand them: there will be 4-tracks - 
five sessions each:
1) Basic Concepts; 2) Intermediate/Advanced; 3) Resources - 
Washington, DC and beyond; 4)NARA
Track 1-Basics: getting started; internet resources; "El lugar es 
importante" - finding the place; parish records; civil records
Track 2-Intermediate/Advanced: Immigration & emigration records; 
reconstructing ancestral daily lives; researching in AGN in Mexico 
and from U.S.; Spanish military records; cesuses of Hispanic countries
Track 3-Resources: LOC (Library of Congress)Hispanic Reading Rm; LOC 
local history and genealogy reading rm; resources for Hispanics; 
Hispanic research in LDS Family History Centers; researching in 
National ARchives of Spain from the U.S.
Track 4-NARA:Hispanics in the Civil War; Hispanics in U.S. censuses; 
Mexican border crossing records; Hispanic research in NARA regional 
archives; Hispanic land claim records.
The site directs that for more information you contact George Ryscamp 
at BYU: cfhg-director@...
Hope this helps. Looks like some great presenatations - hard to pick 
just five. The conferece is still in planning- so check Somos Primos 
for updates.
- Natalie

great announcement. I'm going to try to get there. maybe we can meet for
breakfast on Sunday or coffee Saturday.

if you have those details handy why not post them to the group. I will
eventually dig them out but I'm not sure when. Is it only the one day?

thanks again,

joseph


Natalie wrote:

Is anyone planning to attend the Hispanic Family History and Research
Conference on Sept. 24, 2005, at National Archives in Washington,DC?

Details on the Somos Primos website <www.somosprimos.com>
-ncc

Is anyone planning to attend the Hispanic Family History and Research 
Conference on Sept. 24, 2005, at National Archives in Washington,DC?
Details on the Somos Primos website <www.somosprimos.com>
-ncc