Valenzuela surname

Hello Peggy:

I went to your files to check the "Valenzuela" surname you posted but 
couldn't find it in any of your files?  I have Valenzuela in my 
ancestral files. Let me know the names and I will check them with 
mine. 

Regards,
Carol Lester




Luna family from Tlaltenango or Momax

Helyn and Esperanza,

Do either one of you have your Luna line in a file?  Just wanted to 
compare it to my Luna family.

Thanks,
Angie

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>  
> In a message dated 3/9/2005 5:07:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,  
> makas@n... writes:
> 
> Helyn is also a Luna - we discovered that we have an Herrera 
connection  from 
> Tlaltenango and believe that we also have a Luna connection - we're 
still  
> working on it.
>  
> Esperanza




Valparaiso Books

The book of the Oral History of Baudelio Sandoval sounds interesting, 
especially since it involves my old stomping grounds of Cucamonga, 
Guasti, and Upland (in the '50's). Thanks for the information.
- Natalie
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> del estado de Zacatecas.
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Juan Antonio Liendo

well its not anything as straighforward as that. . .it all depends if
this couple or one of the individuals left behind papers for someone to
save and whether they were important enough for someone to value and go
to the effort of preserving them.



If you have a strong reason to believe that this couple did leave
behind papers and you just need to find them this is what I would do.



1) narrow it down geographically where in Zacatecas they lived.



2) contact the libraries closest to your families location.



3) move outward from there searching and asking library by libary if
papers were saved on local individuals and families.



4) ask the history department of the closest College or University if
books were written on this particular location. Also ask if they know
of any archives that might be holding personal papers. . .and if these
archives are public or private.



5) basically ask ask ask.



joseph



ps: this has nothing to do with the above but here is an interesting
link: http://www.avendano.org/genealogy/avendano.html



and what happend to: Ma. Rita Guajardo?







Josie T. Trevino wrote:

Jos&#xE9; Yrineo Magallanes-Mariano, Francisco and Juan/Tlaltenango-Books

Hi Joseph!   Please tell me how I would go about finding "Family papers" (
like your info below) on a couple by the name of Juan Antonio Liendo and
Catalina de la Rosa in Zacatecas in the 1700s?  I have hit a brick wall on
this couple and desperately need help!!   Anything ANYONE can do to help me
is most appreciated!  Thanks!   

Josie in San Antonio 

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Title: 	Family papers,
1776-1901.
Author(s): 	Magallanes, José Yrineo.
Year: 	1776-1901
Description: 	57 folders.
Language: 	Spanish; In Spanish.
Abstract: 	Papers of José Yrineo Magallanes and his sons, Mariano, 
Francisco and Juan, relating to the sale, inheritance, or transfer of lands
and estates mainly in Tlaltenango and Jérez, province of Zacatecas, Mexico.
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		Tlaltenango :
las transformaciones del sentido de una fiesta popular /
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Author: Rosales Ayala, S. Héctor
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Title: 	Family papers,
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Author(s): 	Magallanes, José Yrineo.
Year: 	1776-1901
Description: 	57 folders.
Language: 	Spanish; In Spanish.

Abstract: Papers of José Yrineo Magallanes and his sons, Mariano,
Francisco and Juan, relating to the sale, inheritance, or transfer of
lands and estates mainly in Tlaltenango and Jérez, province of
Zacatecas, Mexico.

	SUBJECT(S)
Descriptor: 	Land tenure -- Mexico -- Zacutecas (Province)
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Castañeda another cousin here


Angie,

It appears that my line is from Diego de los Santos Castaneda & Maria Xacinta de Llamas. I use the word "appears" as I have a glitch down line. I have a paper trail leading to Marcos Castaneda & Lizara Contreras however, when I found their marriage record, Marcos led me to a different line.

 

Then the names of Marcos Castaneda & Lizara Contreras appear in the line of Diego de los Santos Castaneda. I am sooo confused, I need to go over years of research to attempt to decipher the mystery. So, thus the reason I have not posted the information.

Carol and I have been internet buddies for about 4 years now, and most recently have been attempting to find a connection with Eufracia Castaneda Torre. We share many surnames, but have not found a connection so, for now Carol and I are "internet cousins".


I will be happy to share the current information that I have, but need some time to put it in a better format. Perhaps then Joseph will find a link to the world of Castaneda's.....Saludos, Helyn



aajay1073 <aajay1073@...> wrote:

Casta&#xF1;eda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango

Maria,

It seems you and Carol share the same Castaneda, since she descends 
from Maria Eufrasia CASTANEDA TORRE daughter of Manuel Castañeda and 
Maria Antonia de la Torre, married to Anttonio Casimirio CAMPOS LUNA 
son of Juan Manuel CAMPOS SOTO and Maria Anttonia DE LUNA.

Here is my Castaneda Line, let me know if you recognize a name:
1. Antonio DE CASTANEDA
  sp: Mariana PEREZ
  2. Aleanando DE CASTANEDA
    sp: Anttonia PEREZ (m.3 Aug 1705)
    3. Christoval Manuel CASTANEDA PEREZ (c.1 Jan 1709-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Hernando Alfonso CASTANEDA PEREZ (c.11 Feb 1714-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Luis DE CASTANEDA
    sp: Ynes DE COVARRUBIAS (m.13 Jul 1711)
  2. Antonio DE CASTANEDA
    sp: Catarina GONSALEZ PONSE (c.29 Jun 1693-Tlaltenango,Zac;m.17 
Nov 1711)
    3. Pedro Joseph CASTANEDA GONSALEZ (b.1712-
Tlaltenango,Zacatecas,Mexico)
    3. Andrea CASTANEDA PONSE (c.25 Dec 1713-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Blas DE HERRERA (m.2 Jun 1751)
    3. Mariana Efigenia CASTANEDA PONSE (c.12 Sep 1715-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Maria de la Consepssion CASTANEDA PONSE (c.24 Dec 1716-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Juan CASTANEDA GONSALEZ (c.30 Jul 1718-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Juan de Santiago DE CASTANEDA
      sp: Maria Getrudis SESATI (m.11 Feb 1739)
      sp: Maria Quiteria Rufina VALENZUELA (m.27 Apr 1747)
    3. Pedro Joseph CASTANEDA
      sp: Maria Getrudis LOPEZ (m.20 Aug 1743)
    3. Po. Regulado CASTANEDA GONSALEZ (c.15 Sep 1724-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Anttonio CASTANEDA GONSALEZ (c.9 Feb 1726-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Ana de Santiago CASTANEDA GONSALEZ (c.25 Aug 1727-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Diego de los Santos CASTANEDA
      sp: Maria Xacinta DE LLAMAS (m.29 Jun 1752)

Thanks,
Angie

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> 
> Angie, Carol and Rosalinda:
> 
> I am researching the same surnames from Zacatecaz.  I have some 
> direct line ancestors that might tie in to yours somehow.  One 
> couple:  Manuel Castañeda married to Maria Antonia de la Torre on 
16 
> Nov 1738 in Tlaltenango de Sánchez Román.  Manuel was the son of 
> Pedro Castañeda and María Ulloa. I also have Pedro Castañeda (son 
of 
> Manuel) married to María Gertrudis Luna on 13 Jul 1765 in 
> Tepechitlán, Zacatecaz.  I have documented 9 children from the 
> marriage of Manuel Castañeda and Maria Antonia de la Torre.  Let me 
> know if any of these names tie into one of your lines.
> 
> Maria Cortez




More surnames we need to cross-check!!

Carol,

Let me know when you get a chance to post your other lines.  You only 
currently have the Campos Line posted, right?  Then I'll compare it 
to my files...

I do have all the surnames you listed in my files.

Thanks,
Angie


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Carol Lester <NanaCarolL@p...> wrote:
> Angie:
 
I was reading your files tonight and came across many other surnames 
we share, and will need to cross check to see if they connect 
somewhere:
 
Besides Campos and Castaneda: De La Torre(s); De Luna; Magallanes; 
Miromontes; Robles; Sanchez;Ulloa; Valensuela.
 
I think there are others too, but  I want to go back through my 
records to make sure what they are.  Also, they are from the same 
areas as your ancestors, and same time period.  Will get back with 
you when i have done some more research.  We absolutely connect!!
 
Regards,
Carol




Robles/Magallanes in Tlaltenango

Here is my Robles and Magallanes line in Tlaltenango.

1. Juan Manuel DE ROBLES
  sp: Maria Lucrecia DE MAGALLANES
  2. Juan Diego ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.12 Mar 1724-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Ysabel Tomasa ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.3 Apr 1725-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Mathias MARTINEZ CORREA GONSALEZ (c.11 Mar 1713-
Tlaltenango,Zac;m.3 Feb 1744)
  2. Luisa ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.28 Aug 1726-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Onofre Josseph DE MIRAMONTES (m.7 May 1753)
  2. Bisente Ferrer ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.18 Apr 1728-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Felisiano ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.28 Jul 1729-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Juan Baptista ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.28 Jun 1733-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    sp: Antonia Micaela GUSMAN MUNOS (c.5 Feb 1733-
Tlaltenango,Zac;m.12 Apr 1752)
  2. Maria Dolores ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.2 Apr 1735-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Maria Manuela ROBLES MAGALLANES (c.17 Jan 1741-Tlaltenango,Zac)

- Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mambo King!!!! 
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> I have Magallanes and Robles in my line too, 
> 
> Let me know if you need any info.
> 





Soto Family in Tlaltenango

The furthest that I can trace my Soto family is in Tlaltenango.

1. Francisco DE SOTO ALMEIDA
  sp: Juana Magdalena DE SALAZAR
  2. Anttonia DE SOTO ALMEIDA
    sp: Juan DE CAMPOS (m.22 Jun 1711)
    3. Geronima CAMPOS SOTO (c.12 Oct 1712-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Thomasa Geronima CAMPOS SOTO (c.23 Jan 1714-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Juan Manuel CAMPOS SOTO (c.5 Jun 1715-Tlaltenango,Zac)
      sp: Maria Anttonia DE LUNA (m.17 Feb 1744)
    3. Juan Joseph CAMPOS SOTO (c.20 Feb 1720-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Th. Juachin CAMPOS SOTO (c.28 Sep 1721-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Anttonia Mariana CAMPOS SOTO (c.4 Jul 1723-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Francisco Anttonio Victorino CAMPOS SOTO (c.13 Mar 1725-
Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Augustin Xavier CAMPOS SOTO (c.28 Apr 1727-Tlaltenango,Zac)
    3. Miguel Maria CAMPOS SOTO (c.4 Dec 1729-Tlaltenango,Zac)
      sp: Petra Regalada MIRAMONTES ULLOA (c.20 May 1755-
Tepechitlan,Zac;m.26 Apr 1775)
    3. Antonio Jasinto CAMPOS SOTO (c.29 Aug 1731-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Juan Miguel SOTO SALAZAR (c.19 Nov 1696-Tlaltenango,Zac)
  2. Diego DE SOTO ALMEIDA
    sp: Juana DE GAETA (m.24 Nov 1723)
    3. Anttonio Perfecto SOTO GAETA (c.28 Apr 1726-Colotlan,Jalisco)
    3. Maria Antonia Quiteria DE SOTO ALMEIDA
      sp: Fernando Silvestre URENA (m.19 Jun 1753)
    3. Francisco Eugo. SOTO GAETA (c.26 Dec 1737-Colotlan,Jalisco)

- I descend from Miguel Maria CAMPOS SOTO and Petra Regalada 
MIRAMONTES ULLOA.
- Carol descends from Juan Manuel CAMPOS SOTO and Maria Anttonia DE 
LUNA.
- Rosalinda and Stella descend from Maria Antonia Quiteria DE SOTO 
ALMEIDA and Fernando Silvestre URENA.

Angie

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wrote:
> Hi!   I am doing research on the Soto line out of Tamaulipas in the 
mid
> 1800s........does any of this sound familiar?  That is as far as I 
have
> gotten on this line but I need to get busy and dig some more.  Did 
any of
> your Soto ancestors come from Tamaulipas?  
>  
> Thanks!
>  
> Josie Trevino Trevino
> San Antonio, TX





Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman

Peggy: What other surnames do you have from Tlaltenango? I have quite a collection of names.

Helyn

Peggy Delgado <peggydee@...> wrote:


Southern California/San Gabriel Valley over here!! Parents born and bred in East Los Angeles!!!  However I?m feeling a little left out that y?all get


To make connections with possible ?cousins? because you share surnames.  Isn?t anyone related to Aguirre?s of Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman?!!??!?!


 


 


Peggy Delgado


 

Anyone else on the East Coast?


style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Southern
California/San Gabriel Valley over here!! Parents born and bred in East Los
Angeles!!!  However I’m feeling a
little left out that y’all get


style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>To make
connections with possible “cousins” because you share surnames.
style="mso-spacerun: yes"> 
Isn’t anyone related to Aguirre’s of
Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman?!!??!?!


style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 


style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'> 


style='font-size:10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Peggy
Delgado


style='font-size:12.0pt;color:black'> 

color=black>

Casta&#xF1;eda, de la Torre, Luna, and Ulloa from Tlaltenango

face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>


In a message dated 3/9/2005 5:07:10 P.M. Central Standard Time,
makas@... writes:


style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: blue 2px solid">
style="BACKGROUND-COLOR: transparent" face=Arial color=#000000 size=2>ps: of
don't forget that Helyn Sparkman de Castaneda is also a Castaneda
from
Tlaltenango, but we haven't be able to make that connection either.
And
Steven Hernandez is a Miramontes from Tlaltenango. Isn't life
grand?


Helyn is also a Luna - we discovered that we have an Herrera connection
from Tlaltenango and believe that we also have a Luna connection - we're still
working on it.

 

Esperanza

Getting Ready for Salt Lake City

I misunderstood. I thought you meant there were no batch numbers for
the older records. For privacy sake to protect those that still might
be living they stop extracting at a certain point. I have heard 110
years so that would be from 1885 going forward or so, but I might be
wrong as I've also heard 90 years mentioned. The information is
definitely there on the films you can order but just not extracted.
What ever the years are that they say they cover will be found on film.
Just make sure to call ahead so you will be able to find them on the
shelf.



joseph



ps: When are you going again. . .let me know offlist with this answer,
okay?





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