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Deciphering marriage certificate

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I need some help in figuring out the bride's mother's name on the marriage certificate for Agustin Ursua and Bernardina Gutierres at https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-G5BH-B?mode=g&i=359&wc

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Nicolas de Ursua married to Josepha Rodriguez Martin de Chabes (IM-1708 attached)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BL51

The parents of Nicolas de Ursua are listed as Augustin de Ursua and Bernarda Rodriguez and originally from Aguascalientes. The record you attached to deciper Ana de Chabes states an explanation of aguascalientes being his place of origin but the birth record states Jalisco. They seem to be the same person except for the timeframe of birth and IM date of birth. Of course, the priest could have made mistakes as in the case in several of my ancestors records.

Are they the same person, perhaps I missed something. I just found this record of marriage yesterday as he is married to my 1st cousin 8x removed.

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On 7 May 1708 in Lagos, Nicolas de Ursua provided information to marry Josefa Martinez, 'espanola' from Hacienda la Pendencia in Sierra de Pinos, daughter of Pascual Rodriguez and Matiana Martinez (deceased). In the IM he states that he is from Rio de Santa Maria in the 'parroquia' of Lagos, he is the legitimate son of Agustin de Ursua and Bernarda Gutierrez, 'espanoles'. He declares that he is 24 years old which is 7 years older than the age of the Nicolas baptized in Lagos on 30 Sept 1677. Perhaps he didn't know when he was born and therefore didn't know his true age (not uncommon) or maybe the Nicolas born in 1677 died young and this is a second Nicolas?

The IM is at: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-V1N9-C?i=110&wc=3J8Q-L2S%3…

Saludos
Austin Perez

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Hi Austin - My line of descent is actually through the brother of Nicolas, Manuel. He was born in 1679 https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-K9D1-P?mode=g&i=71&wc=3J86… and married Petra Ornelas in 1707. https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-K98W-N?mode=g&i=162&wc=3J8…

The marriage certificate also states that Manuel is from Rio de Santa Maria and that Petronila is from Hacienda de San Matias. But unfortunately it doesn't give parents' names. I can verify Manuel's from his death certificate, but I haven't been able to find Petra's.

I get really frustrated with trying to work with información matrimonial. Do you have any suggestions? Almost every time I have tried, I can get to a month before the marriage in question and then it skips to six months after. I am really interested in this particular marriage because I can't find any other

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Hi Daniel,
I too descend from this couple. They are my 7th great grandparents. Below is the relavent information from their IM which is located at:
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-VY9S-WC?i=119&wc=3JZP-L29%…

agos, 29 enero 1707: Manuel de Ursúa, español [de edad veintiún años], originario y vecino de esta feligresía en el Río de Santa María, hijo legítimo de Agustín de Ursúa y de Bernarda Gutiérrez, parezco ante vuestra merced como mejor haya lugar y digo que tengo tratado y concertado el contraer matrimonio según orden de Nuestra Madre Iglesia con Petronila de Ornelas, española [de edad de dieciocho años], originaria y vecina de esta feligresía en la hacienda de San Matías, hija legítima de José de Ornelas y de Ángela Pérez

testigos: Felipe de Espinoza, español y vecino de esta villa, dijo ser de edad de treinta y un años y que en las generales no le tocan; José Manuel Ramos, español y vecino de esta feligresía

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Hello Daniel. My stepfather Anastacio Sanchez married my mother and they had five children. I had one of my half sisters take the dna test. The results were 60% Native American. I found one family member for Urzua that are identified as Indian. My step father's and all his siblings had blue, green or hazel eyes and white skin. My stepfather was born in 1914. His gggrandfather Onofre Sanchez Married Maria Jesus Gutierrez in 1847, Villa de Garcia, Nuevo Leon. Do you have these names in your family tree?

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Thanks Austin

Two would make sense. The two Nicolas' are surely related, first they marry into the Chabes, and Rodriguez, as many of us know, families seem to marry into the same families.

What is a mystery are the differences in surnames of bernarda, it could mean two bernardas which was a name in fashion at the time and the "original de Aguascalientes" for Agustin. I will keep looking for answers and hope someone else has a piece to contribute.

Arizmendi (Jalisco/Zacatecas/Aguascalientes/San Luis Potosi)

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Juan del Muro and his wife Maria de Arizmendi were married in Aguascalientes 8 January 1668. Many descendants of this couple spread throughout Aguascalientes, Jalisco, and Zacatecas.

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Published by The_Genealogist – Sun, 2016-04-03 13:20 | Permalink

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Thank you for sharing this ordones. It is proving to be very useful.

Who is this PEDRO GUTIERREZ ?

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There is a marriage at https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-F79B-5S?mode=g&i=215&wc=3J… (bottom right).

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Published by dcalonso – Sat, 2016-04-02 13:57 | Permalink

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Ruben,

There is a son of Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Ana Gonzalez Florida that uses the name Pedro Gutierrez de HErmosillo. I'm not sure if it's the same as yours but it does tell you that there were descendants of the Gonzalez de Hermosillo's that use the name Pedro Gutierrez. I'm not sure when your Pedro was born but this Pedro Gutierrez de Hermosillo would have been born before 1666. you can find see him here:

http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Guti%C3%A9rrez_de_Hermosillo-32

Danny C. Alonso

Nuevo en el grupo. Un respetuoso saludo a cada uno de uds.

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Mi nombre es Ruben Hernandez y mis ancestros provienen principalmente de Tepatitlan y Lagos de Moreno en Jalisco.

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Help 1769 slave from London

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Hello Group,
I'd appreciate help interpreting this unusual baptismal entry (on right)
from 1769 San Martin Texmelucan, Puebla, image 161.

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Published by ElizabethN – Tue, 2016-03-29 19:12 | Permalink

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Alice,
I did a search of those without a last name from England in the 17th Century looking for similar baptisms. I wasn't able to find anyone else listed as a slave. If you find out more information, could you please post it here? I will be interested in what you learn. Elizabeth

Published by dcalonso – Mon, 2016-03-28 22:59 | Permalink

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I can't really help you read this, but it's really interesting to see. I didn't realize that they brought slaves from london. wow. i wonder how often that happened.

Danny C. Alonso

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Hi Danny,
I was just doing my usual ancestral research and came across this entry and thought others would find it interesting. It was a first for
me, but then I haven't been doing genealogy as long as many group members. If I
could interpret what was written, it might give some clue as how a negro English slave came to 1769 Puebla?! I thought maybe by way of Cuba, as the English took over Habana in 1762 and brought 10,000+ African slaves, but he claims to be from
London, England. How interesting?!
Alice Blake

Hello everyone...New to Group.

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Hello everyone. My name is Jaime Barba. I live in California but my entire family is from Tepatitlan, Jalisco and its surrounding areas.

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Published by dcalonso – Mon, 2016-03-28 22:57 | Permalink

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Welcome to Nuestros Ranchos Jaime. Do you have anybody that your looking for specifically that we might be able to help with?

Danny C. Alonso

Introduction - Reynoso/Mejia/Sandoval/Iniguez

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Hello,

My name is Jose Reynoso, born in La Boquilla, Moyahua, Zacatecas.  I'm new to the group and just started researching my family's genealogy.  I've been reading some of the posts, I'm very e

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Published by blankcast75 – Fri, 2012-08-03 14:35 | Permalink

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I believe that we may be tracking one of the same family lines. I know for a fact that my great-grandfather, Hilario de Jesus Castaneda, was born in San Jose, Moyahua (1867) to a Manuel Castaneda and a Secundina Yniguez. I have found information about Hilario Castaneda that shows his maternal grandparents listed as Antonio Iniguez and Josefa Sandoval. The way I figure it, Secundina may have been Inez's sister.

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Jose, you did a great job of presentation, thank you.  I'm afraid I don't have any info or links to your family but watch for some of the surnames you shared. 
Welcome to the group, I do think you will be a great asset  and do hope some in the group do connect to your lines.

Linda Castanon-Long in Marietta, Ga

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From: Jose Reynoso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Fri, January 15, 2010 12:53:33 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction - Reynoso/Mejia/Sandoval/Iniguez

Hello,

My name is Jose Reynoso, born in La Boquilla, Moyahua, Zacatecas.  I'm new to the group and just started researching my family's genealogy.  I've been reading some of the posts, I'm very excited to join such a great group of people.

>From the Reynoso side, I've traced my grandfather, Melecio, Reynoso, b. 8 Dec 1893 in Guadalajarita, Zacatecas.  Melecio's father, Juan Reynoso, b. 30 Mar 1857 in Guadalajarita, Zacatecas.  Juan's father, Nasario Reynoso, b. 1830 around

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Miguel Reynoso was the son of Francisco Reynoso y Renteria and Margarita Quintero.

Link 1:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18425-76593-34?cc=1874591
Mexico, Jalisco, Catholic Church Records, Guadalajara Diócesis de Guadalajara
Matrimonios 1815, parte 1, images 60-65 (Reynoso tree image 62)
Marriage dispensation (investigation) of Jose Felisano Santillan and Maria Rosalia Reynoso in Santiago de Moyahua (20 February 1815), listed currently as of Conitlan, a village near both Juchipila and Moyahua. The Reynoso name was spelled in most of document as Reinoso.

Jose Felisano Santillan stated he was orginally from Cuquio, Jalisco, Mexico, the legitimate son of Francisco Santillan and Maria de la Cruz Reynoso.

Maria Rosalia Reynoso stated she was orginally from Ranchos de Contitlan (near Moyahua and Juchipila), and 18 years old in 1815, placing her birth circa 1797, the legitimate daughter of Miguel Reynoso and Maria Potenciana Flores

The document stated that bride/groom were

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Maria Leonor Vásques de Retamosa

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The lines that I am currently working on have Leonor Vásques de Retamosa in several different places.

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Published by dcalonso – Thu, 2016-03-24 17:06 | Permalink

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Alonso de Alba and Nicolas Macias Valadez are not the same person at all. But Alonso Macias Valadez and Nicolas Macias Valadez probably are. Most people say he was born around 1557, not 1527.

Alonso de Alba is married to Leonor de Retamosa, daughter of Leonor de Retamosa and Nicolas/Alonso Macias Valadez. Juana Bautista de Alba y Retamosa is the daughter of Leonor de Retamosa the younger and granddaughter of the original Leonor de Retamosa.

Maria de Alba was married to Francisco de Cerbantes y Villasenor. She was the daughter of the older Leonor de Retamosa and Nicolas/Alonso Macias Valadez.

So, there are two Leonor de Retamosa's. The second Leonor was daughter of the first. The older Leonor was married only once and Nicolas Macias Valadez and Alonso de Alba are two different people.

You can find more about them here: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/De_Retamosa-1

The sources and dispensas linking them are at the bottom

Danny C. Alonso

A Self Introduction

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Hello everyone. I'm so beyond happy to have been pointed in your direction!

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Published by dcalonso – Thu, 2016-03-24 16:42 | Permalink

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Welcome to Nuestros Ranchos Stephanie. glad you are here.

Danny C. Alonso

Victoriano Lomelin and Maria de la Trinidad Guerra

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Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I'm looking to see if anyone knows anything about my ancestors Don
Victoriano Lomelin and Doña Maria de la Trinidad Guerra. They are the
parents of Jose Maria Lomelin.

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Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Thu, 2016-03-24 00:17 | Permalink

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Juan Otxoa Ybarlucea and Juana Ibanez de Esteibar parents of

Martin Otxoa Ybarlucea (aka Machin Ochoa Garibay) and Maria Solis de Rodriguez parents of

Diego Ochoa Garibay and Juana Nunez de Sotomayor parents of

Juan Ochoa Garibay y Nunez de Sotomayor + Cecilia Vasquez Solis parents of

Nicolas Ochoa de Garibay + Juana Ortiz de Zarate parents of

Jacinto de Ochoa Garibay and Maria Gomez de Mendoza parents of

Juan Jose de Ochoa Garibay and Paula Gertrudis Tiscareno parents of

Anna Maria Simona Ochoa and Miguel Santos Romo de Vivar parents of

Maria Thomasa Romo and Antonio Lomelin parents of

Jose Maria Lomelin and Maria Guadalupe Guerra parents of

Jose Maria Victoriano De Jesus Lomelin Guerra married to Maria de la Trinidad Franco

To see more of the Ochoa ancestry go to my post on Capitan Diego Ochoa Garibay.

Source of Ochoa Ancestry: Mygenes2000, book by R.A. Ricci

Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Thu, 2016-03-24 00:09 | Permalink

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Dear Danny,

Here are some more of your ancestors

Image 721 of 849

Jose Maria Lomelin is the son of Antonio Lomelin and Maria Tomasa Romo Ochoa

Please check out my post last week on Diego Ochoa Garibay for his ancestors. Juan Joseph de Ochoa is a descendant of his.

Jose Ma. Lomelin
Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
marriage: 5 April 1826 La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico

Miguel Santos Romo is Tomasa Romos father but she has two different mothers listed in different baptismal records. Most of the time her mother is listed as Anna Maria Ochoa Her marriage record records her mother as Anna Maria Ochoa. The second mother listed is a stepmother. Miguel Santos Romo de Vivar Gallardo remarried after his first wife, Ana Maria Simona Ochoa y Tiscareno passed away.
Juan Joseph De Ochoa
mentioned in the record of Miguel Santos Romo De Vibar and Ana Maria De Ochoa
Name Juan Joseph De Ochoa
Gender Male
Wife Paula Gertrudis Tiscareno
Daughter Ana Maria De Ochoa
Name Miguel

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Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Sun, 2016-03-20 21:09 | Permalink

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Bernabe was Francisco Bernabe

Fransisco Ruis de Esparsa
Mexico, Aguascalientes, Catholic Church Records
Name Fransisco Ruis de Esparsa
Event Type Death
Event Place Asunción de María, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Burial Date 11 Jun 1786
Father's Name Jose Ruis de Esparsa
Mother's Name Maria Dolores Calvillo
Spouse's Name Maria Gertrudis Martines
CITING THIS RECORD

México, Aguascalientes, registros parroquiales, 1620-1962, database with images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N86T-MXQ : accessed 21 March 2016), Fransisco Ruis de Esparsa, ; citing Death, Asunción de María, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico, parroquias Católicas, Aguascalientes (Catholic church parishes, Aguascalientes

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Franco. Ruis De Esparza
mentioned in the record of Franco. Ruis De Esparza and Anna Gertrudis Martines De Sotomayor
Name Franco. Ruis De Esparza
Spouse's Name Anna Gertrudis Martines De Sotomayor
Event Date 08 May 1776
Event Place El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico
CITING THIS RECORD

"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JHPT-XXQ : accessed 21 March 2016), Franco. Ruis De Esparza and Anna Gertrudis Martines De Sotomayor, 08 May 1776; citing El Sagrario,Aguascalientes,Aguascalientes,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 299,830

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Dear Danny,

Your welcome, but I've got more for you. Two death records, the first is Francisco Ruiz de Esparza, the second is his mother Maria Dolores Calvillo. Her husband is Jose Cristobal Ruiz de Esparza. (Jose +)

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HY-DRRS-P6X?i=287&wc=M6QX-YNP…

Maria Dolores Calvillo
mentioned in the record of Fransisco Ruis de Esparsa
Name Maria Dolores Calvillo
Gender Female
Husband Jose Ruis de Esparsa
Son Fransisco Ruis de Esparsa
Name Fransisco Ruis de Esparsa
Event Type Death
Event Place Asunción de María, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, Mexico
Gender Male
Marital Status Married
Burial Date 11 Jun 1786
Father's Name Jose Ruis de Esparsa
Mother's Name Maria Dolores Calvillo
Spouse's Name Maria Gertrudis Martines
CITING THIS RECORD

México, Aguascalientes, registros parroquiales, 1620-1962, database with images, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N86T-MXW : accessed 21

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Dear Danny,

Luis Franco's parents are Marcelino (Jose Marcelo) Franco and Maria Roberta Gallardo.

Luiz Franco
mentioned in the record of Luiz Franco and Marcelina Villalobos
Name Luiz Franco
Spouse's Name Marcelina Villalobos
Event Date 06 May 1826
Event Place La Encarnacion,Encarnacion De Diaz,Jalisco,Mexico
CITING THIS RECORD

"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC8Z-JN5 : accessed 21 March 2016), Luiz Franco and Marcelina Villalobos, 06 May 1826; citing La Encarnacion,Encarnacion De Diaz,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,155,497.

Marcelino Franco and Maria Roberta Gallardo

Jose Maria Lopez Villalobos and Ygnacia Esparza

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-V5SH-3K?mode=g&i=723&wc=3J…
Image 358 of 544

Manuel Antonio Franco and Maria de la Trinidad Pedrosa paternal grandparents of Jose Luis Franco Gallardo
Manuel Antonio Franco is

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Thank you again Mr. Ricci. This helped me out a lot.

Danny C. Alonso

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Victoriano Lomelin
mentioned in the record of Victoriano Lomelin and Ma. De La Trinidad Franco
Name Victoriano Lomelin
Spouse's Name Ma. De La Trinidad Franco
Event Date 07 Feb 1849
Event Place La Encarnacion,Encarnacion De Diaz,Jalisco,Mexico

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-VR9W-DB?mode=g&i=562&wc=3J…

Victoriano parents are Jose Maria Lomelin and Guadalupe Guerra
And Maria de la Trinidad parents are. Luis Franco and Marcelina Esparza Villalobos

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-VR9W-DB?mode=g&i=562&wc=3J…

A baptismal record gives Luis Franco and Marcelina Villalobos as Maria de la Trinidads parents
Good luck
R.A.Ricci

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Dear Danny,

Victoriana Lomelin
mentioned in the record of Jose Maria Dela Encon. Lomelin Franco
Name Victoriana Lomelin
Gender Male
Wife Trinidad Franco
Son Jose Maria Dela Encon. Lomelin Franco
Name Jose Maria Dela Encon. Lomelin Franco
Gender Male
Christening Date 01 Apr 1850
Christening Place LA ENCARNACION,ENCARNACION DE DIAZ,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Victoriana Lomelin
Mother's Name Trinidad Franco
Maternal Grandfather's Name Luiz Franco
Maternal Grandmother's Name Marcelina Villalobos
CITING THIS RECORD

Glad to help,
Rick A. Ricci

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Marcelina Villalobos
mentioned in the record of Simon De Jesus Franco Villalobos
Name Marcelina Villalobos
Gender Female
Husband Luis Franco
Son Simon De Jesus Franco Villalobos
Name Simon De Jesus Franco Villalobos
Gender Male
Christening Date 20 Feb 1831
Christening Place LA ENCARNACION,ENCARNACION DE DIAZ,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Luis Franco
Mother's Name Marcelina Villalobos
Maternal Grandfather's Name Jose Maria Villalobos
Maternal Grandmother's Name Ygnacia Esparsa
CITING THIS RECORD

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:N1GR-F7M : accessed 21 March 2016), Marcelina Villalobos in entry for Simon De Jesus Franco Villalobos, 20 Feb 1831; citing LA ENCARNACION,ENCARNACION DE DIAZ,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,155,175.

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Jose Maria Villalobos
mentioned in the record of Jose Maria Villalobos and Yga. Esparza
Name Jose Maria Villalobos
Spouse's Name Yga. Esparza
Event Date 28 Feb 1810
Event Place La Encarnacion,Encarnacion De Diaz,Jalisco,Mexico
CITING THIS RECORD

"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC8D-XJX : accessed 21 March 2016), Jose Maria Villalobos and Yga. Esparza, 28 Feb 1810; citing La Encarnacion,Encarnacion De Diaz,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,155,497.

Jose Maria Villalobos
mentioned in the record of Marcelina Villalobos Esparza
Name Jose Maria Villalobos
Gender Male
Wife Ygnacia Esparza
Daughter Marcelina Villalobos Esparza
Name Marcelina Villalobos Esparza
Gender Female
Christening Date 04 Jun 1811
Christening Place LA ENCARNACION, ENCARNACION DE DIAZ, JALISCO, MEXICO
Father's Name Jose Maria Villalobos
Mother's Name Ygnacia Esparza
Paternal Grandfather's Name Bartolome Villalobos
Paternal Grandmother's Name

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Juan Antonio Esparza
mentioned in the record of Maria Juliana Esparza Gonzales
Name Juan Antonio Esparza
Gender Male
Wife Josefa Gonzales
Daughter Maria Juliana Esparza Gonzales
Name Maria Juliana Esparza Gonzales
Gender Female
Christening Date 02 Feb 1805
Christening Place LA ENCARNACION, ENCARNACION DE DIAZ, JALISCO, MEXICO
Father's Name Juan Antonio Esparza
Mother's Name Josefa Gonzales
Paternal Grandfather's Name Bernabe Esparza
Paternal Grandmother's Name Antonia Martines
Maternal Grandfather's Name Jose Gonzales
Maternal Grandmother's Name Micaela Macias
CITING THIS RECORD

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NXHC-GL1 : accessed 21 March 2016), Juan Antonio Esparza in entry for Maria Juliana Esparza Gonzales, 02 Feb 1805; citing Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico, reference 2:VVDPXM; FHL microfilm 1,155,173.

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Francisco Bernave Ruis De Esparza
mentioned in the record of Juan Antonio Romualdo Ruis Martines
Name Francisco Bernave Ruis De Esparza
Gender Male
Wife Maria Antonia Martines
Son Juan Antonio Romualdo Ruis Martines
Name Juan Antonio Romualdo Ruis Martines
Gender Male
Christening Date 16 Mar 1754
Christening Place NUESTRA SENORA DE LOS DOLORES,TEOCALTICHE,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Francisco Bernave Ruis De Esparza
Mother's Name Maria Antonia Martines
CITING THIS RECORD

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JM3B-KYM : accessed 21 March 2016), Francisco Bernave Ruis De Esparza in entry for Juan Antonio Romualdo Ruis Martines, 16 Mar 1754; citing NUESTRA SENORA DE LOS DOLORES,TEOCALTICHE,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 634,019.

Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Sat, 2016-03-19 16:20 | Permalink

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Dear Danny,

I don't know who the grandparents of Jose Maria Lomelin Y Guerra are but his marriage record says that his parents were still alive at Jose Maria Lomelins marriage in 1870. In la Chona. Check the actas de defuncion after 1870 and you may find something there.

Also check out this record for possible connection and clues

Jose Maria Victoriano De Jesus Lomelin Guerra
Mexico Baptisms
Name Jose Maria Victoriano De Jesus Lomelin Guerra
Gender Male
Christening Date 25 Mar 1827
Christening Place LA ENCARNACION,ENCARNACION DE DIAZ,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Jose Maria Lomelin
Mother's Name Guade. Guerra
Maternal Grandfather's Name Franco. Guerra
Maternal Grandmother's Name Ma. Gertrudis De Alba
CITING THIS RECORD

"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NJ1H-NNL : accessed 19 March 2016), Jose Maria Victoriano De Jesus Lomelin Guerra, 25 Mar 1827; citing LA ENCARNACION,ENCARNACION DE DIAZ,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL

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Ayuda con traduccion de acta de Matrimonio de 1703

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Buenas Tardes necesito ayuda con esta acta de matrimonio, no tengo mucha experiencia y necesito los nombres del padre del novio para seguir con mi busqueda.

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Published by campezina – Fri, 2011-06-17 17:15 | Permalink

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Yo leo

**Es el acta de Juan De Mercado, casado con Maria de Albas Navarro**

-No se si en el Padre del novio es Juan o Jose de Mercado

-------------Yo leo: Jce. de Mercado. Usualmente Jce. es abreviacion para "Jose". Jn. es para "Juan"

-la madre Ynes o Juana Rangel

-------------Yo leo: Jna. Rangel. Parece la abreviacion usada para "Juana". No me parece Ynes.

-y los de la novia Pablo de Alba

--------------Aqui yo leo Po. que puede ser Pedro. Solo he visto esta abreviacion asociada con el nombre de Pedro, tambien asi: Pdro.
Para Pablo asi: Pbl y Plo para Pablo.

Parece que estas abreviaciones varian bastante.

-Florencia Hermosillo.

---------------Aqui yo leo definitivamente 'Lorenza' por que en la imagen #80 (actas de mayo -Maio-en el centro esta el acta de Joseph Lorenzo escrito igual excepto por la o final.

Espero esto ayude.

Elvira

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Segun yo es Jose mercado el padre y la madre Ynes (se ve diferente la
primera letra por lo tanto no es J, parece Y", la mama de la novia no es
lorenza???, donde esta la F?, al nombre del padre de la novia, nomas no le
entiendo.

Ella es española originaria de Colotlan reside en el pueblo hace 2 años, El
es español originario de Fresnillo y residente en este pueblo desde hace 6
años
Hijole, esta horrible la letra, espero te haya podido ayudar en algo
2011/6/7

> Buenas Tardes necesito ayuda con esta acta de matrimonio, no tengo mucha
> experiencia y necesito los nombres del padre del novio para seguir con mi
> busqueda. Es el acta de Juan De Mercado, casado con Maria de Albas Navarro
> el 19 de Feb de 1703. en el libro es la acta que se encuentra a mano derecha
> en la parte inferior. No se si en el Padre dell novio es Juan o jose de
> Mercado y la madre Ynes o Juana Rangel y los de la novia Pablo de Alba y
> Florencia Hermosillo. Les agradezco cualquier pista que me den para
>

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Textualmente esta partida dice Juan de Mercado esp originario de el Real de Fresnillo
(este es Fresnillo, Zacatecas) y vecino deste pueblo (Tepatitlan) de seis ans hijo legitimo
de Juan de Mercado difunto y Dna. Ynes Rangel de Acuna. (Debe ser Ynes y
no Juana porque las letras no son los mismos J vs. Y. son distintas). . .y a
Maria de Alba Navarro esp originaria de Ocotlan (Obispado de Michoacan)
vecino este pueblo (Tepatitlan) dos ans. hija legitima de Pedro de Alba y
Lorenza Gonsales de Hermosillo (no es Florencia).

Nota los testigos Sebastian Gonzalez de Hermosillo, Pedro Navarro Gaytan,
Juan de Agundiz. Padrinos Cayetano Navarro y Dna. Francisca Navarro.
De esta pareja sólo tengo que Pedro de Alba Navarro y Lorenza González
de Hermosillo tuvieron una hija llamada Antonia bautizada en Ocotlán
el 7 Oct 1687 donde sus padres eran vecinos.

De aquí adelante trabajarás
con líneas de Hermosillo y Navarro Gaytán. En realidad Pedro era
de Alba [Navarro Gaytán]. Aun no he

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Gloria Casillas

Muchas gracias por su ayuda,esta acta es del hermano de Antonio Mercado,a Juan Mercado junto con su esposa Maria de Alba Navarro los encontre como padrinos de uno de los hijos de Don Antonio, que es mi ancestro, pero como no he podido encontrar el acta de matrimonio de Don Antonio con Maria de Placencia, busque la de Don Juan Placencia para localizar a los padres de ambos. Muchas gracias por toda la informacion que me han proporcionados, aun sigo en la busqueda y si encuentro algo mas de ellos lo hago saber,gracias a esta pagina he avanzado mucho, estoy muy agradecida con todos ustedes =)

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Daniel,

Pedro de Alba y Lorenza González también bautizaron a
Joana el 10 Jul 1694 -
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
Petronila el 27 Jul 1696 -
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…

Armando

2011/6/15 Daniel Méndez de Torres y Camino

>
>
>
> Textualmente esta partida dice Juan de Mercado esp originario de el Real de
> Fresnillo
> (este es Fresnillo, Zacatecas) y vecino deste pueblo (Tepatitlan) de seis
> ans hijo legitimo
> de Juan de Mercado difunto y Dna. Ynes Rangel de Acuna. (Debe ser Ynes y
> no Juana porque las letras no son los mismos J vs. Y. son distintas). . .y
> a
> Maria de Alba Navarro esp originaria de Ocotlan (Obispado de Michoacan)
> vecino este pueblo (Tepatitlan) dos ans. hija legitima de Pedro de Alba y
> Lorenza Gonsales de Hermosillo (no es Florencia).
>
> Nota los testigos Sebastian Gonzalez de Hermosillo, Pedro Navarro Gaytan,
>

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Por coincidencia encontré a otra hija de Pedro de Alba y Lorenza Gonzalez de
Hermosillo de nombre Catarina casada con Tomás Macías de Villalobos el 3 de
febrero 1710 en Tepa. Este Tomás era viudo de Josepha de Aceves y Ruiz de
Velasco e hijo de Pedro de Villalobos y Catalina Alonso Ramirez. Por una
dispensa de 4 de mayo 1787 en el microfilm 168073 se sabe que Pedro de
Villalobos era hermano de Tomás de Villalobos Macías Valadez y ambos hijos
de Tomás de Villalobos y Pérez de Nava y Catarina Macias Valadez y Villegas.

Matrimonio de Tomás Macías de Villalobos y Catarina de Alba y González de
Hermosillo
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

Armando

2011/6/15 Armando

> Daniel,
>
> Pedro de Alba y Lorenza González también bautizaron a
> Joana el 10 Jul 1694 -
> http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…
> Petronila el 27 Jul 1696 -

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Ya encontré el registro de matrimonio de Pedro de Alba con Lorenza Gonzalez
de Hermosillo. Se encuentra en
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

Pedro de Alba fue hijo legitimo de Joseph de Alba y de María de Estrada.
Lorenza fue hija legitima de Pedro Navarro Gaytan y Catalina Gonzalez.

El Pedro Navarro Gaytan que fue testigo de la boda de Maria de Alba y
Navarro podría haber sido el abuelo de María.

Armando

2011/6/16 Armando

> Por coincidencia encontré a otra hija de Pedro de Alba y Lorenza Gonzalez
> de Hermosillo de nombre Catarina casada con Tomás Macías de Villalobos el 3
> de febrero 1710 en Tepa. Este Tomás era viudo de Josepha de Aceves y Ruiz de
> Velasco e hijo de Pedro de Villalobos y Catalina Alonso Ramirez. Por una
> dispensa de 4 de mayo 1787 en el microfilm 168073 se sabe que Pedro de
> Villalobos era hermano de Tomás de Villalobos Macías Valadez y ambos hijos
> de

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Gloria Casillas

Daniel Mendez,gracias a los datos que me dio voy a poder comprobar o descartar un acta de matrimonio que encontre de un Antonio Basquez Mercado casado con Maria de Plazencia el 29 de Jun de 1704 en San Felipe Cuquio. Desgraciadamente esto tendra que esperar, ya que no esta el libro en linea, asi que ire a buscar el microfilm al Archivo Dioscesano, esperando se encuentre ahi o ir al pueblo de Cuquio por el acta.

Published by Claudia_Reynoso – Tue, 2011-06-07 15:39 | Permalink

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Parece que los padres del novio son:
Juan de Mercardo, difunto y Dona Ignacia Rangel de Acuna.

De la novia:
Pedro Albas (tambien parece que dice "dinfunto," - Albas puede ser corto por Albares) y Lorenza Gonzalez de Hermosillo

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Dice que el novio es "Español originario de el Real de el fresnillo y vecino
de este pueblo seis años ha"

Parece que la novia es "María de Alba y Nabarro española originaria de
Ocotlan y vecina de dicho puesto dos años ha hija legitima de Pedro de Alba
defunto y de Doña Lorenza González de Hermosillo"

Pedro de Alva y Lorenssa Gonssales casaron en Ocotlan el 03 Nov 1684
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…

Tuvieron a Joana, Petronila y Antonia

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…

http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordimage&c=f…

fueron testigos a la selebracion de dicho matrimonio Sebastian González de
Hermosillo Pedro Nabarro Gaitan Juan de ? y otros ? españoles vecinos de
dicho pueblo padrinos Caetano

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El matrimonio va a estar en el microfilm 280854. Usando la lista de rollos
de Ocotlán 280854 corresponde a "Bautismos 1610-1723 (incluye algunos
matrimonios)"
https://www.familysearch.org/search/catalog/show?uri=http%3A%2F%2Fcatal…

Ese microfilm se encuentra en
https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/show#uri=https%3A//api.family…

Saludos
Armando

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Gloria Casillas

Muchas Gracias Armando por su ayuda, voy a seguir con todos los datos que me han dado para seguir investigando esta ramita de mi familia =)

Juan Antonio Esparza and Josepha Gonzalez

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Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

on this marriage of Juan Antonio Eparza and Josepha Gonzalez could someone tell me what the name of the father of Juan Antonio Esparza is,I can't read it

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Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Mon, 2016-03-21 11:20 | Permalink

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Here is a research project for you. Look for the children and grandchildren of Juan Martinez Calvillo (b. Ant 1638) (died. 17-Apr-1673) married in about 1662 to Josepha Aguilera de Sandi (died about July 1677)

They are the parents of Heugenio Martinez Calvillo b 18/dec 1669 married to Xertrudis Ruiz de Estrada Alvarado Lopez

I believe that Maria Dolores Calvillo is possibly a granddaughter to Juan Martinez Calvillo and Josepha Aguilar de Sandi.
Good Luck,

R.A.Ricci

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Dear Danny,

His name is Francisco Bernabe Ruiz de Esparza, his father is Jose Cristobal Ruiz de Esparza. I included this information in the other blog.

Presently, I have not confirmed who his father is but I have a Thread to pull. Many years back I worked on a family members Palomar ancestry. In that ancestry there is Ruiz de Esparza married to Martinez Calvillo. In That branch there is a sibling Cristobal (Salado) Ruiz de Esparza. His sibling married into the Martinez Calvillo family. I would need to reopen my research and look over all my notes on this family to see if there is a connection.

There is a possibility that Jose Cristobal Ruiz de Esparza is the same person as Jose Cristobal (Salado) Ruiz de Esparza who is the son of Cristobal Ruiz de Esparza and Antonia Lopez de Alvarado, this Xrtobal Salado Ruiz de Esparza was baptized 2/dec/1668

I also need to revisit the Martinez Calvillo family to find Maria Dolores Calvillo ancestry.

Maria Dolores Calvillo is the

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Hi Danny, Juan Antonio's father is Bernabe de Esparza.

Buen dia!
Austin Perez

Don Augustin Perez and Doña Maria Dolores Cuellar

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Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I'm trying to see if someone knows information on my ancestors Don Augustin
Perez and Doña Maria Dolores Cuellar mentioned here as parents of Maria
Theresa Perez

http

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Published by iChristopher – Sun, 2016-03-20 18:15 | Permalink

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Hi Danny,
I descend from this couple on my mom's side, but I haven't done any research on them. But, my guess is that Agustín Pérez is the same as Juan Agustín Pérez Franco married to Ana María de Lomelín. That would make María de los Dolores Cuéllar his second wife. If he is the same, and I think he is, he's the Son of Francisco Pérez Franco and Teresa Martín del Campo seen here:
http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Pérez_Franco-19
Chris

From: Danny Alonso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sunday, March 20, 2016 5:04 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Don Augustin Perez and Doña Maria Dolores Cuellar

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I'm trying to see if someone knows information on my ancestors Don Augustin
Perez and Doña Maria Dolores Cuellar mentioned here as parents of Maria
Theresa Perez

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-V5SQ-TR

Danny C. Alonso

Family tree poster showing familial relationship of Mexican presidents

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A few years ago there was a poster showing that some ex-presidents of Mexico were related to each other was posted on the Internet.

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Published by The_Genealogist – Sun, 2016-03-20 09:28 | Permalink

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President Victoriano Huerta is descended from two couples:

Phelipe Marquez de los Olivos and his wife Francisca Xaviera Sanchez.

Juan Augustin Marquez and his wife Juana de Abalos.

Many people, including many researchers here at Nuestros Ranchos, are descended from these two couples.

Don Lino Villalobos and Doña Cenovia de Alba

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Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Could someone tell me the names of the parents of my ancestors Don Lino
Villalobos and Doña Cenovia de Alba.

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Published by iChristopher – Sat, 2016-03-19 16:30 | Permalink

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Hi Danny,
The parents of Don Lino Villalobos are Juan Jose Villalobos and Doña Ysabel Franco. The parents of Doña Cenobia de Alba are Don Juan Agaton de Alba and Doña Atanacia Verdin.
Chris

From: Danny Alonso
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2016 4:05 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Don Lino Villalobos and Doña Cenovia de Alba

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Could someone tell me the names of the parents of my ancestors Don Lino
Villalobos and Doña Cenovia de Alba. I can't read what it says

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-VR9W-62

Danny C. Alonso

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Ysabel Franco
mentioned in the record of Juan Josef De Villalobos and Ysabel Franco
Name Juan Josef De Villalobos
Spouse's Name Ysabel Franco
Event Date 27 Oct 1820
Event Place La Encarnacion,Encarnacion De Diaz,Jalisco,Mexico
CITING THIS RECORD

"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch(https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC8Z-YM7 : accessed 20 March 2016), Juan Josef De Villalobos and Ysabel Franco, 27 Oct 1820; citing La Encarnacion,Encarnacion De Diaz,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 1,155,497.

And

Name Ysabel Franco
Gender Female
Husband Juan Jose De Villalobos
Daughter Maria De La Merced Gumecinda Villalobos Franco
Name Maria De La Merced Gumecinda Villalobos Franco
Gender Female
Christening Date 13 Jan 1828
Christening Place LA ENCARNACION,ENCARNACION DE DIAZ,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Juan Jose De Villalobos
Mother's Name Ysabel Franco
Maternal Grandfather's Name Tiburcio Franco
Maternal Grandmother's Name Maria Ybarra

Juan Agaton De Alva

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Durango Birth Record

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Would someone please let me know if you recognize or are able to make out the paternal's grandmother's surname of the upper right corner birth listing on the attachment for Andres Amado Reyes?

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El Potrerillo, San Miguel el Alto Jalisco donde se encuentra en un mapa actual?

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Buen dia
Mi nombre es Jesus Ramirez .

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Published by ROHdez – Tue, 2016-03-15 20:09 | Permalink

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Hola Jesús,

Bienvenido al grupo, espero que el link a continuación te sea útil y que este sea El Potrerillo que andas buscando. En esta página encontrarás localidades pequeñas que por lo regular no se encuentran en un mapa común.

http://mexico.pueblosamerica.com/i/potrerillo-14/

Suerte,
Roberto Hdez

Onafna ???

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Onafna

I've not see this name. Can someone give me some input on what some
possibilities are for this name?

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Published by LasFlores – Tue, 2016-03-15 15:18 | Permalink

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I think it may be Onofre.

Published by dcalonso – Wed, 2016-02-24 20:00 | Permalink

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Joseph,

Do you have the actual record to see? that doesn't like a real name

Danny C. Alonso

Francisco de Reynoso

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A quien esté interesado en el estudio de los Reynoso:

Estimados Señores,

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Published by juan_francisco… – Thu, 2014-04-17 23:52 | Permalink

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Sanchez-Castellanos

Por mi lado materno soy Reynoso de San Crsitobal de la Barranca, Jalisco y estoy atorado con José Antonio Reynoso y Felipa Rita de Ocampo. Les envio este link para Juan Reynoso y Padilla https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-42719-12144-42?cc=1937239…

al parecer era vecino y viudo de Compostela y se caso en Tacotan y el dia de su boda 30 de mayo de 1694 sus padres estaban muertos.

Saludos

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Don Juan Francisco:

Gracias por proporcionarnos el valioso link e información; don Juan de Reynoso nació en Junio de 1632 por lo que ese matrimonio debió efectuarse cuando tenía 62 años...

Mariano González-Leal menciona a una esposa: Isabel de Estrada con quien tuvo a Juan de Reynoso y Estrada en 1677 en Teocaltiche y gracias a esa dispensa que encontró podemos ver también como esposa a Juana de ¿Ayllón? ¿Aragón? y Tovar y a María de Zúñiga.

Es también de importancia su hallazgo debido a la mención de su condición como "hombre noble"; lo que -independiente de su origen en tierra de Campos donde tenían sus señoríos- refuerza los actos positivos de hidalguía de la familia en Nueva Galicia. Los actos positivos en las 3 generaciones son los diversos cargos que desempeñó el Capitán Francisco de Reynoso Rico (1º generación en Nueva Galicia), los de Alcaldías Mayores y de la Santa Hermandad de sus hijos los Reynoso y Padilla donde se menciona su condición (2ª generación), la del Capitán

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Sanchez-Castellanos

En este link hay un Joseph Antonio Reynoso originario de Juchipila que se casa el 5 de junio de 1758 con Maria Magdalena Reynaga en Mezquital del Oro y dice que el es originario de Juchipila pero no dice si era viudo de Felipa Rita de Ocampo, lo que si viene son sus padres Juan Manuel Reynoso y Maria Josefa de (ydroas) ??

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-11201-36723-34?cc=1804458&wc…

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I was able to track my Reynozo line to Alexo Reynozo married to Ana Maria Martinez aka: Ana Maria Chumacero to the year 1819 when one of their sons got married in Moyahua Zacatecas. Alexo and Ana Maria had several kids: Jose Alexo, Dionicio , Maria T and Lazaro Reynozo but I have been unable to locate any of them. I have tried looking in Zacatecas and in Jalisco area but no luck. I have read that originally there were two Reynozos one went to Zacatecas and the other stayed in Jalisco but not sure where mine came from. If you have any information please help.
Bertha Alicia Casanova

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I tracked my Reynoso line to Miguel Reynoso married to Maria Potenciana Flores to the year 1815 when the oldest daughter, Rosalia married in Moyahua Zacatecas. According to the 1825 census, Miguel was born abt 1772 (age 53) and resided in "La Hacienda de Santa Rosa". I too have had no luck in finding any other information. I've looked in the nearby parishes in both Zacatecas and Jalisco, but I have not found any additional information. I would appreciate any information anyone has..

Jose Reynoso Mejia

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I found a couple of records for a Santa Rosa in the district of Jerez, Zac and also in the district of Tamazula in Jalisco..
Linda
guess that just complicates your search...

________________________________
From: "jmreyn2@pacbell.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:53 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Francisco Reynoso

I tracked my Reynoso line to Miguel Reynoso married to Maria Potenciana Flores to the year 1815 when the oldest daughter, Rosalia married in Moyahua Zacatecas.  According to the 1825 census, Miguel was born abt 1772 (age 53) and resided in "La Hacienda de Santa Rosa".  I too have had no luck in finding any other information.  I've looked in the nearby parishes in both Zacatecas and Jalisco, but I have not found any additional information.  I would appreciate any information anyone has..

Jose Reynoso Mejia

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I think one of your biggest problems will be the spelling of Reynosa since I've found it so many different ways
good luck in your search..
Linda

________________________________
From: "jmreyn2@pacbell.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, August 29, 2012 9:53 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Francisco Reynoso

I tracked my Reynoso line to Miguel Reynoso married to Maria Potenciana Flores to the year 1815 when the oldest daughter, Rosalia married in Moyahua Zacatecas.  According to the 1825 census, Miguel was born abt 1772 (age 53) and resided in "La Hacienda de Santa Rosa".  I too have had no luck in finding any other information.  I've looked in the nearby parishes in both Zacatecas and Jalisco, but I have not found any additional information.  I would appreciate any information anyone has..

Jose Reynoso Mejia

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Hi Jose just wanted to share my info, I have Miguel Reynoso and Potensiana Flores in my father's mother line. Maria Rosalia Reynoso married on 8 Feb 1815 in Moyahua, Zac. to Jose Felisiano Santillan Reinoso aka; Jph Feliz Santellan Reynoso (born on 8 Dec 1794 in Cuquio, Jalisco) hijo de Jose Francisco Santillan and Maria de la Cruz Reynoso. Jose Feliciano and Maria Rosalia were the parents of Secundino Santillan Reynoso married to Ricarda Garcia daughter of Ricardo Garcia and Maria Manuela Reynoso on 12 Jun 1844 in Moyahua, Zacatecas. Secundino and Ricardas daughter was Narcisa Santillan Reynoso Married to Manuel De Esparza around 1870 probably in Ixtlahuacan del Rio. Manuel de Esparza and Narcisa Santillan Reynoso were my 3G-Grandparents. Which line do you come from? Bertha Alicia Casanova

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Jose Reynoso

Bertha Alicia,

My 3G-Grandparents on my father's is Jose Teodosio Reynoso (b. abt 1805) and Maria Bacilia Flores (b. abt 1807). Teodosio's parents is Miguel Reynoso and Maria Potensiana Flores. Bacilia's parents are Jose Maria Flores and Maria Gertrudis Reynoso. Teodosio and Basilia are listed in Hacienda de Contitlan in the 1825 census. Teodosio and Basilia were the parents of Nasario Reynoso married to Maria Juana Sandoval on 7 may 1856 in Moyahua, Zacatecas. Juan and Nicolasa's son was Juan Reynoso married Juana Reynoso in 24 Nov 1880 in Moyahua, Zacatecas. Juan and Juana are the parents of my grandfather Melesio Reynoso born 5 dec 1893 in Guadalajarita.

Jose Reynoso Mejia.

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Hi Bertha,

I am new to the group and ran across your Reynoso family when researching for my spouse, Judith Ingram, maiden name Martinez. The collateral families of my wife include both the Lozano and Renteria surnames, mainly in the Monterrey and surrounding areas of Nuevo Leon, but the Lozano/Renteria families were also from Zacatecas/Jalisco.

Long story short; the Lozano and Renteria families both link to the Moyahua/Juchipila Reynoso family. Anyway, that was just a short intro into how I found your family, and have not found that the Reynoso's are directly related to my spouse's Martinez family. It does appear that branches of the Renteria/Reynoso/Lozano families all migrated from Jalostotitlan/Lagos, Jalisco to Juchipila/Moyahua, Zacatecas very early on.

The marriage dispensation of Miguel Reynoso's daughter Maria Rosalia Reynoso to Joseph "Jose" Francisco Feliciano Santillan stated that these two were distantly related via two sons of Diego Reynoso, Cristoval and Sancho

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Bertha and José:

The main ancestor of the Reynoso line in Nueva Galicia is the Captain Francisco de Reynoso Rico, as stated above. He married Mariana de Padilla-Dávila and they had 6 children (5 male, 1 female: Francisco, Juan, Diego, Sancha, Joseph and Antonio). The eldest son -Francisco- had descendants mainly in Jalisco, Guanajuato and Michoacán; Joseph de Reynoso had a daughter called Angela who married the Alferez Real Cristóbal Lagunes de Soria.

Diego, the third son, was baptised on January 5th 1634 in Guadalajara, he married Margarita de Rentería y Valdés and had many descendants in the region of Zacatecas. You should be looking for the connection to Diego de Reynoso y Padilla-Dávila.

Best regards,

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Mr. De Tejada, Thank you for the information you provided. Today I found the marriage certificate for Joseph Reynoso y Renteria hijo de Diego De Reynoso y Padilla and Doña Margarita de Renteria with Juana Sanchez Alvarez Tostado and according to the record all were "orginarios de Juchipila, Zac. en la Hacienda Buena Vista" Marriage date 26 Mar 1714 in San Felipe Cuquio, Jalisco. The only problem is that in Juchipila, Zac. there are no records till the year 1825 so would their records be in other towns?
Bertha Alicia Casanova

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Dear Bertha,

Congratulations of finding the marriage certificate of Joseph and Juana; Mariano González-Leal (Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia, 2010) mentions the following children of Diego de Reynoso and Margarita de Rentería:

a) Diego, married to Juana Lozano.
b) Joseph, married to Juana Sánchez de Porras y Álvarez de Luna (Sánchez Álvarez-Tostado).
c) Juan Manuel, married to Josefa de Vargas-Machuca y Ramírez de Hermosillo.
d) Juan Antonio, married to Nicolasa Díaz de Santiago y de Ayllón.
e) María, married to the Captain Alejandro Sánchez de Porras y de Hermosillo.
f) Mariana, married to Jerónimo Sánchez de Porras y Álvarez de Luna.

Regarding the records of Juchipila: Since there are no ecclesiatical records previous to 1825 I suggest looking for the last will of Miguel Reynoso; this search must be made in situ because there are no digitalized records of them so far but perhaps someone in the region can help you.

I wish I could help you more, Bertha. I will let you know

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Published by salvagr – Tue, 2012-08-28 11:15 | Permalink

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Una Pregunta, ? Este es el Capitan Francisco Reinoso que se casó con Doña Mariana Padilla Davila?

Published by Erik_Andrs_Rey… – Tue, 2012-08-28 12:07 | Permalink

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Sí, en 1652 aparece como Alcalde Ordinario de Primer Voto en Guadalajara; en una conversación que tuve con don Pedro Franco me comentó que Francisco de Reynoso no alcanzó a terminar su periodo como Alcalde en Guadalajara -por razones que desconozco- y coincide con el hecho de que al año siguiente, en 1653*, fuera Alcalde Mayor de Llerena y Minas de Sombrerete.

Un cordial saludo,

Erik Reynoso.

*Retoños de España en la Nueva Galicia. 2010. Mariano González-Leal.

Published by rmcneal103 – Mon, 2012-08-27 16:37 | Permalink

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Randy McNeal
Thank you for this post Erik. Have you uploaded a gedcom of your family tree? I would really like to compare your Reynoso line with mine. My grandfather was a Reynoso.
If you are interested I have uploaded my gedcom to Nuestros Ranchos so you are able to search family there.

Gracias por este Erik post. ¿Ha cargado un gedcom de tu árbol genealógico? Realmente me gusta comparar su línea Reynoso con la mía. Mi abuelo era un Reynoso.
Si usted está interesado He subido mi gedcom a Nuestros Ranchos por lo que son capaces de buscar familia allí.

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Dear Randy,

Not yet but I can send you my Reynoso line in an e-mail so that we can make the comparison.

Best regards,

Erik

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