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Estoy buscando informacion sobre mi antepasado Pedro de Ledesma casado con Isabel del Grado el es originario de Zamora España nacido en 1515. No e podido encontrar mas informacion sobre sus antepasados, Alguin me puede ayudar en esta investigacion?

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> hola Alfonso
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> el documento sobre el soldado no me llego o no pude abrir, pero me llamo la atencion el enlace que pusiste en donde en las fotos eran todos pelirrojos y tu escribias rubios :) es verdad que a veces hacemos errores tan obvios que no los notamos y creo que asi te paso a ti esta vez. :)
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> pero volviendo a los ojos rojos yeux roux, encontre en un libro , que aqui te paso el enlace, al parecer yeux roux es un termino que se usaba en la epoca de Napoleon y que describia unos ojos color "castana - rojizos" y que actualmente ya no se usa, tambien los habia amarillos y anaranjados !
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> http://www.persee.fr/web/revues/home/prescript/article/pop_0032-4663_19…
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> esta en la pag 643 un cuadro sobre los colores de ojos
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> Saludos Julieta
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> ? : general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Objet : [Nuestros Ranchos] ?Pelirrojo o rubio?
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> Alfonso Reynoso Rabago
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> Totalmente de acuerdo contigo, Julieta. En mis aportes, emple? mal el t?rmino "rubio", deb? haber empleado la voz "pelirrojo". En efecto, El Diccionario de Real Academia define al rubio como "Dicho especialmente del pelo: De color amarillento, parecido al del oro." Agradezco mucho la correcci?n de mi error. Y totalmente de acuerdo contigo de que la expresi?n francesa para rubio es "blond" o "blonde" en femenino.
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> Sin embargo el problema en el documento comentado es que se diga que el soldado descrito tiene los ojos "roux". ?Ojos pelirrojos? Hasta donde s?, esa expresi?n no existe en franc?s como color de ojos. Investigar? mejor con personas de habla francesa.
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> Un saludo y mil gracias por la aclaraci?n.
> Alfonso Reynoso R?bago
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Hello, I am trying to decipher the difference in the following abbreviations, or if they actually mean the same thing just written differently?
These are all in three different baptism records I am trying to figure out:

Ps (sorry, the "s" is supposed to be written as an exponent character, but can't find that option on my keyboard)
P. nos
P.P.

I know P.s is for padrinos, and P is for padre, but trying to figure out these other ones and how they all fit in.

If anyone can help, I would be most grateful.

Thank you!

Hello my name is Ernestina Hernandez Sierra. It has been awhile since I've worked on my family tree due to serious illness in the family. Currently I am researching the Hernandez family. From my research it looks like starting with my great great great grandfather the family was from Cerrogordo Jalisco. Can any one tell me anything about this area. My grandfather was born in La Ordena? Is this a town? This is what I have found;
Grandfather Jose Ambrosia Hernandez Chaves born 7 Dec 1881 in La Ordena Jalisco
g-grandfater Pedro Hernandez born 1 July 1858 in Cerrogordo Jalisco
gg-grand Jose Andres Hernandez born 30 Nov 1824 in Cerrogordo Jalisco
ggg-grandfather Juan de dios born Aug 1790 in Cerrogordo, Jalisco
gggg- gramdfather Juan Franciso Hernandez- run into a dead end here.

My grandfather Ambrosia/o immigrated to the United States around the turn of the century.

Is there anyone out there that might be able to help with this.

Thank you so much
Ernestina

I was wondering if anyone might be able to assist me in continuing my research into the Mendoza family surname. Using FamilySearch.org historical I have been able to trace back my paternal family line (Mendoza) to San Luis Potosi. The last record I have found was a marriage of my GGGG grandfather, Jose Salbador Mendoza, to Maria Bruna Gamez dated 27 May 1812 in the Pueblo de S.Geronimo. The age of Salbador Mendoza is listed as 20 so I reasoned that he should have been born in 1792+/-. This Document list my GGGGG Grandfather as Juan Nicolas Mendoza. Unfortunately this is as far as I have been able to go. I have attached the marriage document should anyone wish to look and see if they might find additional information.

Hola Primo Armando, gracias por la informacion, lo de mi ADN fue hecho hace
varios anos, desde cuando empezaron al publico. En lo que me equivoque fue
en la traduccion del Ingles al Espanol de Scandinavian/German a
"Sueco-Aleman" actualmente debe ser "Escandinavo-Aleman". Los Visigodos
son originarios del sur de lo que hoy es Suecia (todavia existe la ciudad
de Goteburg), despues de ayudarle al Imperio Romano se les dieron terrenos
que hoy vienen siendo parte de la peninsula de Iberia, o sea Espana y
Portugal. De por ahi vinieron a Las Americas como Espanoles (y
Portugueses). La prueba de ADN que hice me puso a 80% Escandinavo-Aleman,
12% Mediterraneo, 4% Celtico y 4% de Siberia-Nativo Americano. Estudiando
mi linea Padilla de Avila y Reynoso he encontrado antepasados Sefarditos,
Vascos y de partes que hoy son de Italia. El punto de esta comunicacion es
que la gran mayoria de lo blanco en nuestros razgos son sencillamente de
Espana. De lo Celtico ha salido mucho en los Gallegos, tambien, son de
Espana. De las cifras de 48% ADN Aleman se ha verificado en varios
estudios, unos que se han visto aqui en Nuestros Ranchos. Lo de lo Nativo
en Mexico de 32% salio de los estudios modernos donde intentan identificar
los grupos etnicos de los Nativos. Creo que la confusion viene de como
hacen las pruebas hoy comparado a antes. Un primo hermano Gonzalez-Reynoso
acaba de tomar la prueba de ADN y no dice nada de lo Aleman, solo dice que
72% de Espana/Portugal, 6% Nativo, 2% Sefardito y 1% Africano (lo de mas no
me acuerdo). Creo que lo que nos confunde es lo que se llama el "Snapshot"
en Ingles, o sea, que tanto al pasado se estan haciendo las comparaciones.
Disculpa tanta palabra, solo queria decirles a mis Primos que la gran
mayoria de lo blanco viene de Espana, pero vinieron de otros lados antes de
ser Espanoles. Diosito los Cuide! Raul

2014-12-05 16:02 GMT-08:00 :

It is image (page) 257 of Matrimonios 1676 - 1829 of Diocese De Guadalajara Catholic Church Records:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18409-51684-34?cc=1874591&wc…

http://cachanilla69.blogspot.com/p/cronologia-de-fundacion-de-ciudades-…

A death record (1798) says an infant died of "Aygre". What is that? Same as Aigre? What does it mean? The only two definitions I've found don't help me much. One is "Flujo impetuoso del mar". Another source suggests it just means "air". If so, what condition does it describe?

This is not about genealogy but I wanted to help spread the word about this project that Rosa’s daughter is working on. You all know I don’t abuse my privileges often so feel free to delete this email unless you happen to know someone who can help.

Thanks,

Joseph

Joseph Puentes

Clean@h2opodcast.com

http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

From: gonzalez.rosa@comcast.net [mailto:gonzalez.rosa@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, December 02, 2014 12:19 PM
To: Joseph Puentes
Subject: Stories of Separation: Impact of Detention and Deportation on Latino Children's Attachment Representations

Hi Joseph!

I hope that this email finds you well! Unfortunately, I haven't had much time to work on my ancestry...I've been busy helping family members who have been ill and getting older. I'm writing to you with the hope that you would be open to helping me reach out to our Nuestros Ranchos group and any other group, family, and friends.

My daughter, Monique is completing her Family and Child Psychology doctorate dissertation on the impact of children who have had a primary caregiver deported or detained. She needs to find families for this very important study to share their experiences. Is it possible to ask you for your assistance in sending the information out to Nuestros Ranchos email group? Her study participants have to be living in California; however, it's important to share this study with everyone.

With her permission, I've added her intro below and I'm attaching the flyers in Spanish and English with all the details. Participants are encouraged to call her directly to ensure confidentiality. She is fluent in English and Spanish:) What do you say... would you help me spread the word? Thank you in advance!

Rosa

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My name is Monique Gonzalez and I am a fifth year doctoral student from the California School of Professional Psychology in San Francisco. I am currently living in the San Francisco Bay Area of California, applying for my post-doctoral internship. I am in the process of working on my dissertation,

entitled: Stories of Separation: Impact of Detention and Deportation on Latino Children's Attachment Representations.

The purpose of my study is to shed light on the experiences and feelings of Latino children who are separated from their primary caregiver through detention and/or deportation. I will be conducting individual interviews with children throughout California.

Citizenship or immigration status of the children are not relevant and will not be asked, and children can speak either English or Spanish (or both).

Children must:

- Be of Latino/Hispanic descent

- Be between 9 to 12 years old

- Experienced the deportation or detention (in relation to deportation) of their primary caregiver within the last three years.

- Child must be separated from their caregiver at the time of interview.

Each participating family receives a $25 Visa Gift Card, and the child receives a gift of school supplies. I have attached two flyers, one in English and another in Spanish. If you know of a family with an eligible child, please feel free to forward them the attached flyer. Interested guardians can leave me a message with their contact information and I will call them back directly. OR if preferred, the family may provide you permission to forward their information to me; I am happy to get in touch with them. This is often easier and feels more comfortable for the families.

Your participation will not need to continue beyond this point. I believe this is a much needed area of research and your support is invaluable! The study is CONFIDENTIAL and has been approved by the Institutional Review Board at CSPP-SF.

As you may all agree, this is an incredibly significant area of research that can provide families, advocates, and the psychological community a
deeper understanding of how to best support and provide culturally responsive interventions for these children. In my experience, thus far, it
truly helps when the family hears that you believe and trust in this study.

¡Muchísimas gracias!

Monique Gonzalez, M.A.

CSPP, Alliant International University San Francisco

Study Contact Info: (415) 617-9965
email LatinoChildStudy@gmail.com

En varias ocasiones leí que un obispo de la Nueva Galicia, tal vez Alonso de la Mota y Escobar, visitó la región que ahora conforman los Altos de Jalisco y describió a su población española como muchos de ellos rubios o de pelo castaño, algunos de ojos claros y muchos de piel blanca. Si alguien conoce este texto, le agradecería mucho que me proporcionara la referencia.

Mil gracias.
Alfonso Reynoso Rábago

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From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Monday, December 01, 2014 8:17 PM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: December 2014 Issue of Somos Primos

http://www.somosprimos.com/sp2014/spdec14/spdec14.htm

Dear Primos and Friends:

It is hard to believe that this December issue completes 15 years of monthly Somos Primos issues online. It has been a challenge, an education, and a joy. My historical understanding of U.S. history and the Spanish global presence has grown bit by bit, primarily through the varied submissions and family histories that readers have sent.

The wide diversity of information reflects the countless range of individual histories with a Latino connection. Every individual's story is unique, each different, a piece to the puzzle of humanity.

I have taken a simple approach: if you have a Spanish surname, you have a heritage connection to Spain, where the surname originated, and that makes you happily, a possible primo. . .

Since the heritage diversity among the Spanish language speakers in the Americas is based on the 500-year colonization period of the America, I am hopeful that as we learn our history back to the colonization period, we will find many primo connections.
I am hopeful too that as we find our historical and DNA roots connections to other groups, such as the Indigenous, African, European, Asian, and Jewish communities, it will increase understanding and respect for the cultures of others.

As we embrace diversity in the United States, we will be helping to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ. His message of love will be easier to emulate as we reinforce ourselves with historic facts and apply them to our activities in the present.

May you, your family, friends, and community rejoice, honor, and adore the Lord who brought the message of love and peace for all mankind.

MERRY CHIRSTMAS and warm hugs. . . Mimi

TABLE OF CONTENTS

UNITED STATES
Congress tried to fix immigration back in 1986. Why did it fail? by
Brad Plumer
During 1986 Amnesty Implementation Process, Over-stayed VISA Holders
Went First by Mimi Lozano
Information on the New 2014 Amnesty Laws
First Annual George Washington Patriot Prayer Breakfast, November 29,
2014, in San Antonio, TX
An Idea for Your Christmas Tree
Youtubes to enhance Christmas:
Mary Did You Know? and Our Father by Andre Bochele
Hispanics in the American Revolution - 1775-1783
The Most Latino Congress Ever Is Coming in 2015 by Roque Planas,
Huffington Post
The Land is Spanish by Pablo Ricardo Quintana
Spanish Heirs win access to Energy wealth in Texas Legislature
Were Native Americans Victims of Genocide? by David Olson
Epidemics in U.S 1657-1918 Compiled by Sandy Russell
This Is a New Story We Are Writing Together By Guy Bailey
Vaquero Reflects Heritage of South Texas By Dr. Lino García, Jr.
Vaquero – A Proud Tradition By José Antonio López
Maria Elena Durazo leaving top post at L.A. County Federation of Labor
Marta Lourdes Tellado as Consumer Reports New President & CEO
A Legacy of Smoke: a documentary film by Luis Argeo and James D.
Fernández
U.S. History Trivia . . . And Did You Know . . .

HERITAGE PROJECTS
Latinos in Heritage Conservation: Launching a National Network
DNA Proves Horses Unlike Any Others on Earth
The Colonial Spanish Wilbur-Cruce Mission Horses
Honoring Col. Juan N. Seguin Burial Site, October 25, 2014
The Reenactment of the Battle of Medina
La Belle and the Alamo Connection by Dan Arellano Author/Historian
Fojas Perdidas Project
A Tour of Tijuana’s Maquiladoras in Mexico by Barbara Zaragoza
The Importance of Promoting Hispanic History by Mimi Lozano

HISTORY TIDBITS
Remembering Pearl Harbor, December 7, 1941
The History Blog
Colorization of Civil War era and early 1900’s photos
Book: When Mexicans Could Play Ball by Ignacio M. Garcia
November 2, 1779 -- Spanish diplomat dies of head injury
November 6, 1528 Castaways begin amazing journey
November 8, 1852 - The Circus come to town!

HISPANIC LEADERS
Maestro Juan Estevan Arellano, 1947-2014
Ricard Duardo, LA Master printmaker and artist, - November 12, 2014
Lorenzo Santos Luera, California State Past LULAC President
In Memoriam Tulio Halperín Dongi (1926-2014)

AMERICAN PATRIOTS
Video Mansions, Giving Thanks to those who Gave Their Lives for our
Freedom
Hero Street, book, video and documentary
Chicano POW Of Nazi Slave Camp Speaks Out
How to Trace Your U.S. Military Ancestors
Medal of honor Chaplains
2014 Las Estrellas de Tejas Reception
History of the Marine Corps by Kelsey Driscoll

EARLY LATINO PATRIOTS
Bernardo de Galvez Plaque Natchez
Galvez Program on Tenerife TV
Video on Los Galvez de Macharaviaya
Galvez Projects of Edward F. Butler, Sr.
Call to write your senators in support of Galvez
Example of letter written by José Antonio López
Your State Senators
Granaderos y Damas de Galvez, San Antonio at the Founder's Day Event
Dorothy Perez Honored by SAR

DNA
Genetically, There's No Such Thing as a Mexican by Maggie Fox
Vast Genetic Diversity among Mexicans Found in Large-scale Study by
Krista Conger
My suspicions have been confirmed by Refugio Fernandez
Genetic Evidence Says Easter Island Had Visitors 100s Of Years Before
Previously Thought
New Mexico DNA Project Database celebrates it's 10 year anniversary
Researching Your Family Health History with the application of genetic
information.
Ambitious Google drive to put human genome online gathers steam

FAMILY HISTORY
Dec. 3, 2014 Latino Education & Advocacy Days (LEAD) Educational
Advocate of the Year
FamilySearch introduces MyHeritage's institutional service at Family
History Centers and Libraries
More Family Search Records Indexed Records and Images
What every genealogist needs to know about digital content and
preservation (100+ resources)

EDUCATION
Gates Millennium Scholarship Program
Teacher expectations produce a Pygmalian effect that influences student
achievement.
The Old Deluder Act passed in 1647
Missing Minority Ph.D.s by Scott Jaschik
Stolen Education: Screen documentary on systematic discrimination in
Texas schools

Hola Members ,I am trying to see how many Francisco de Orozcos there are cause I am getting confused.
I have a Francisco de Orozco born to a Francisco de Orozco and Magdalena Gomez de Portugal around 1645.
A Francisco de Orozco married to a Catalina de Arriola who had an Angela de Orozco marries to Juan Perez Gallo.
A Francisco de Orozco married to Ines de Villegas.
What am understanding (I think ) that Francisco was married 3 times. Magadalena Gomez de Portugal,Ines de Villegas and Catalina de Arriola. If so I don't know where Catalina de Arriola fits in. Any thoughts ?

Thank you for your time
Ronnie

I found this reference where it mentions "De La Hacienda De Minillas"

http://oi58.tinypic.com/s58mc7.jpg

I've advanced my Ruiz line to Diego Ruiz-Nunes, md to Luisa or Catalina
Delgadillo, by way of their son, also Diego Ruz-Nunes and his wife, Anna
Gonzalez de Hermosillo, natural daughter of Pedro Gutierrez de Hermosillo.
Two of Diego and Anna's four children that I have identified where
baptized in Cuquio, Jalisco: Blas b. 6 Feb, 1676, md to 23 Jan 1718 in
Cuquio to Catharina de Lisarde; Diego b 15 Sep 1691. Their other two
children are Cayatano who md Juana Rovalcaba Estrada in Cuquio 4 Feb 1712,
and Paula, who md Melchor Rubalcaba y Rodriguez de Frias.

My sources are my research on familysearch.com and Retonos de la Nueva
Galicia, Tomo VII, p 179.

I have no idea where Diego Ruiz-Nunes and Luisa or Catalina Delgadillo
live. They probably were born mid1600s. Anyone else researching this
family?

I would appreciate any assistance or suggestions anyone might have.

Thank you.

Raquel Ruiz

Hola a todos,

Me ha interesado mucho uno de los temas que se han tocado últimamente en el foro y es el de las pruebas de ADN para conocer con mejor precisión el origen étnico de nuestros antepasados. Ya que estudio Medicina conozco bien el fundamento de estas pruebas por lo que mis dudas van en relación a lo siguiente:

Estuve leyendo que las principales compañías que realizan estas pruebas son FamilyTreeDNA y National Geographic a través de The Genographic Project, y por lo que ví me convence más la segunda opción. Sin embargo, me gustaría saber, ¿Cuál ha sido su experiencia con las dos organizaciones en caso de que ya se hayan realizado estas pruebas?

Segundo, si vivo en México es posible realizar todo el procedimiento de envío y reenvío del kit con las muestras? Alguien de ustedes que viva en México ha podido hacerlo?

De antemano les agradezco sus respuestas.

Enrique Agraz

I just watched the show (I'm on the East Coast). It was excellent! I am
wondering if Maria Cortez or anyone else can share how/where one goes about
testing Native American DNA at the level described in this episode by
Carlos Bustamante of Stanford University. Also, does anyone know how much
African DNA one needs to have to be able to obtain more specific
information re areas of origin in Africa than the larger regional areas
provided by FTDNA? And where one would get it done? I looked at the
23andMe website but it didn't really offer much information.

Hopefully this gets posted in time to encourage more member to watch the
program!

I have a partial transcription of Libro 80 from marriages in Jalpa
covering 1685-1712.

I'm hoping that you can identify some of the names listed below. For
instance, I was able to ascertain that "Domingo Seballos i Castañeda"
is the same person that had been married to "Maria Garcia de la Vera"
in Nochistlan (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15187-51580-36?cc=1804458&wc…)

I'm listing only the entries with last names as those would be
identifiable. Apologies in advance for the lack of formatting, but I
tried separating the entries using an "|":

Año | Contrayente | Comentario | Padres del contrayente | Contrayenta
| Comentario | Padres de la contrayenta
1712 | Eugenio de Figueroa | Viudo de Ana Maria | | Juana Micaela | |
Juan Miguel y Maria Magdalena
1712 | Juan de la Cruz | | Juan de la Cruz y Catarina Basques |
Antonia Rodriguez | | Antonio de la Baltasar y Laila de la Cruz
1712 | Marcos de la Cruz | Viudo de Maria de la Consepsion | | Maria
Casilda | | Bernabe de Castro y Antonia de Vega
1712 | Domingo Seballos i Castañeda | Viudo de Maria Garcia | | Petra
Flores | | Pedro Flores y Maria Galdauna
1712 | Pedro Hernandez | | Francisco Lazaro y Maria | Maria Magdalena
| | Juan Sebastian y Cathalina Isabel
1712 | Juan Alonco | | Diego Zacarias y Maria de Naba | Maria
Magdalena | | Juan Martin y Ana
1712 | Joseph Antonio (Horelas) | | Nicolas y Juana Garcia | Maria
Magdalena | | Antonio de Abila y Dorotea
1712 | | Bautismo de Francisco hijo de Pedro Sánchez y Nicolasa de
Villaseñor | | | |
1684 | Gaspar de los Reyes | | | | Lusia Clara Hernandez |
1686 | Martin Sebastian | | Diego Jacobo y Ana Sebastiana | | Ysabel
Sanchez | Martin de Espinola y Beatriz Nuñez
1686 | Antonio de la Torre | | Joseph de la Torre y Francisca
Michaela | | Chatalina Lucia |
1686 | Francisco Hernandez | | (Falta nombre del padre) y Cathalina |
| Maria Lucia | Fabian Sebastian y Ana Marta
1686 | Andrés de Espinosa | | Martin de Espinosa y Beatriz Nuñez | |
Maria Lucia | Andrés Martin y Juana Clara
1686 | Lazaro de Albarado | | Nicolas de Albarado y Catalina | | Maria
Viral | Pedro Esteban y Maria Angela
1686 | Nicolas de la Cruz | | Melchor de los Reyes y Chatalina Agueda
| | Petrona de Abila | Francisco Lazaro y Ana Maria
1687 | Nicolas Hernandez | | | | Ana |
1687 | Pablo | Sirviente de Sebastian Flores | | | Petrona Beatriz |
1687 | Gregorio de Abila | Feliphe de Abila y Ana de Vera | | | Juana
Arias de Baldez | Bernardo Arias y Petronila de Sandoval
1685 | Gaspar Perez | | | | Catalina Lucia |
1685 | Gaspar de los Reyes | | Gabriel Hernandez y Pasquala Elbira | |
Juana | Juan Diego y Clara Maria

The Nuestros Ranchos website will be taken down the morning of Saturday November 29 for approximately three hours. If there are no technical difficulties, the site should be back up and running by noon Eastern time.

El sitio Nuestros Ranchos quedara suspendido por la mañana el sábado 29 de noviembre por aproximadamente tres horas. Si no hay problemas técnicos, el sitio estará funcionando de nuevo para mediodía tiempo del este.

For the past two weeks I have been putting names in the search field in an attempt to retrieve old postings that I want to update with my latest research. What pops up is "ERROR". Is this happening to other members?

RA Ricci

Hello,

Question, I noticed that when I post a new topic never comes up with the Tag "New" or "Nuevo". How do you make your post to come up with this tag?

Happy Thanksgiving!

Susana

Hola,

Estoy buscando la fuente documental para asegurar que Bernarda Chavez y Banuelos (casada con Tomas de Vela en Tlaltenango aprox. 1660) fue hija de el Capitán Juan de Chavez y Banuelos y de Isabel Ruiz de Soto y Almeida. Dicha información la he encontrado en varias genealogías publicadas en linea; pero desafortunadamente sin listar la fuente documental para unir a Bernarda con su "padre" Juan. Cualquier información se agradecería.

Gracias de antemano

Susana

hi,

I'm looking for the documental source to ensure that Bernarda Chavez y Banuelos (married to Thomas de Vela in Tlaltenango approx. 1660) was the daughter of Captain Juan de Chavez y Banuelos and Isabel de Soto y Ruiz Almeida. I found this information on several online genealogies published on-line; but unfortunately they don't list the source to link Bernarda to her father Juan. Any information is appreciated.

Thanks in advance

Susana

Hola Members ,I need help reading the parents names of Joseph Cristobal de Chavez and Maria Catarina de Tejada
matrimonios-Teocaltiche-1768-1782 image # 39.
It reads Pedro de Chavez and ????? the rest.
Thank you for your time
Ronnie

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Just wanted to remind everyone that Maria Cortez and several others from the
nuestrosranchos.org group helped with the research in the "Finding Your
Roots" PBS show that examines Jessica Alba's family history on Tuesday,
November 25th. Please spread the word.

Thanks,

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
Clean@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

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Hola a todos, mi nombre es Mario Gonzalez Gomez vivo en la cd de mexico, soy
nuevo en este foro al igual que ustedes estoy interesado en conocer mis
origenes, mi familia materna es originaria de lagos de moreno, antes Santa
Maria de los lagos. Si alguien puede decirme algunos datos que incrementen
ramas de mi arbol genealogico le agradecere profundamente, los apellidos
relacionados con mi famlia son; Gomez, Ramirez, Tavares, Ortiz, Collazo,
Gonzalez. Les presento el avance que tengo.

1.- EligioTavares se caso con Juliana Ortiz en Santa Maria de los Lagos
Jalisco. En el año de 1862

su hijos:

a) Plasida Tavares Ortiz ( 1865 Santa Maria de los lagos)

b) Sostenes Tavares Ortiz (1874 Santa Maria de los lagos)

c) Cayetana Tavares Ortiz (1878 Santa Maria de los lagos)

d) Andres Tavares Ortiz (1880 Santa Maria de Los lagos

2.- Andres Tavares Ortiz se caso con Julia Gomez Collazo

sus hijos

a) Felipa Tavares Gomez (1917 Encarnación de Diaz Jalisco)

b) Marcos Tavares Gomez

c) Pedro Tavares Gomez

d) Guadalupe Tavares Gomez

e) inocencia Tavares Gomez

3.- Felipa Tavarez Gomez se caso con Refugio Gomez Ramírez en 1935 en Lagos
de Moreno Jalisco

sus hijos

a) Esther Gomez Tavares

b) Juan Gomez Tavares

c) Pascuala Gomez Tavares

d) Beatriz Gomez Tavares

e) Angel Gomez Tavares

f) Cristina Gomez Tavares

g) Martha Gomez Tavares

h) Antonia Gomez Tavares

i) Raul Gomez Tavares

4.- Beatriz Gomez se caso con Leopoldo Gonzalez Ramirez en 1964 Naucalpan
Mexico

sus Hijos

a) Mario Gonzalez Gomez

b) Alfonso Gonzalez Gomez

c) Leopoldo Gonzalez Gomez

d) Angel Gonzalez Gomez

e) Ricardo Gonzalez Gomez

f) Beatriz Adriana Gonzalez Gomez

Espero contribuir a alguien mas que busca ver creser su arbol genealogico.