There will be a genealogy conference held at the University of Aguascalientes (Mexico) on Aug 28-29. Arrangements are being made at the Hotel Francia Aguascalientes for anyone wishing to stay there.
I heard the stories by my grandmother of when the men of "Che Che Campos" attacked our town in 1912. They took money and sometimes women along with them.
Este 2014 se cumplirán los primeros 100 años en que se conmemora el acto revolucionario que dio origen a cambios en nuestra sociedad.
i've tried finding death records for some people on my family tree and have had no luck.
Kathy have you tried 440991
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15671-28568-32?cc=1804458&wc…
or civil death records 2177920. The civil death record drops records after 1875 to before 1916, index is on page 693
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-22324-2056-52?cc=1916240&…
I also found this civil marriage/death records but can't find a number but here is the way in. marriages/deaths 1871-1919 with the index on this page
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-22319-20499-89?cc=1916240…
happy hunting
Linda Castanon-Long
i just searched through those documents and had no luck finding the people listed previously. I did find the death record for Felix's third wife geronima carrillo though
update i found a death record for my great grandma's sister elodia .
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-22324-13635-7?cc=1916240&…
-----Original Message-----
From: mimilozano@somosprimos.com [mailto:mimilozano@somosprimos.com]
Sent: Thursday, July 31, 2014 10:02 PM
To: mimilozano@aol.com
Subject: Somos Primos August 2014
Cli
Hello fellow members,
I'm so glad to have found this group for our little area in Nueva Galicia
and have enjoyed my genealogy research for some time.
Jorge,
I forgot to mention that Maria de Guadalupe Bernales is listed as hija legitima de Luis Bernal and Maria de San Juan de Santos. On the Marriage record of Luis Bernal and Maria de San Juan de Santos in Aguas Calientes on 4 Feb 1731, Luis Bernal is listed as hijo legitimo de Juan de Dios Bernal y de Yldephonsa Delgado. On some records Juan de Dios Bernal is listed as Juan de Dios Bernal Marmolexo, so Marmolexo may be his mothers name, but, I don't have that record. Yldephonsa Delgado died on 16 Mar 1748 and it lists her as viuda de Juan de Dios Bernal and hija legitima de Luis Delgado y de Theresa López de Elizalde. Luis Delgado is the son of Joseph Delgado and Francisca Gabai. On the marriage record of Francisca Gabai she is listed as hija legitima de Luis Tiscareño de Molina y de Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza. It lists Joseph Delgado's father as Diego Delgado and his mother as Juana Diaz? maybe. It's kind of hard to read. Theresa Lopez de Elizalde was
married to Luis Delgado on 4
Luis Tiscareño de Molina y Márquez and Lorenza Ruiz de Esparza were married
16 May 1623 in Aguascalientes. He was the son of Juan Tiscareño de Molina
and Elvira Márquez. She was the daughter of Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Anna
Francisca Gabai Navarro de Moctezuma. See the post by Bill Figueroa at
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15316
Alonso de los Hinojos is a compound surname
The parents of María Antonia Abad Alonso de los Hinojos y Vernales were
married 30 Jan 1766 in Aguas.
Film 299829
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-12126-33499-41?cc=1502404&…
Her paternal grandparents Antonio Alonso de los Hinojos and Margarita López
Velarde were married 7 Feb 1734 in Teocaltiche.
639755
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19052-57017-98?cc=1874591&wc…
The parents of Antonio Alonso de los Hinojos were Pedro Alonso de los
Hinojos and Gertrudis de Chávez Fregoso. I believe Pedro was the son of
Juan Alonso de los Hinojos and Isabel
The marriage document of Fernando Fermín García y Alonso de los Hinojos and
María Antonia Abad Alonso de los Hinojos y Vernales states that they had a
dispensa de los tres parentescos de consanguinidad en cuarto grado puro.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18564-58801-15?cc=1874591&wc…
A dispensa or dispensation is a waiver by the bishop of Guadalajara to
allow them to marry even though they were 3rd cousins through three
different lines. People related in the fourth degree (cuarto grado) are 3rd
cousins.
Siblings (share parents) is the 1st degree
Cousins (share grandparents) is the 2nd degree
2nd cousins (share ggrandparents) is the 3rd degree
3rd cousins (share gggrandparents) is the 4th degree
I searched www.guadalajaradispensas.com for all Hinojos and this dispensa
was indexed by Katy Brecht at
http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/2012/08/1794-fhl-source-film-168088…
That shows it is on image 167 and that there is an explanation of their
Edgar Olguin Diaz
buenas noches armando
una pregunta
tienes las dispensas de Fernando Fermín García y Alonso de los Hinojos and
María Antonia Abad Alonso de los Hinojos y Vernales?
la dispensa de los tres parentescos de consanguinidad en cuarto grado puro?
me podrias pasar de favor el link de estas dispensas?
te lo agradezco mucho la atención prestada saludos
espero noticias
gracias
excelente dia
Edgar Olguin Diaz
hola armando
un cordial saludo
amigo una pregunta:
quienes son lo padres de pedro alonso de los hinojos esposo de ana magdalena dominguez?
en este comentario dices que los padres de pedro alonso de los hinojos que son
juan alonso de los hinojos y beatriz lopez del castillo .
tienes el documento donde se mencionan a esta pareja? me lo podrias pasar?
te lo agradeceria mucho
que tengas un excelente dia
saludo
Jorge and Chris,
From George Fulton's index of Aguascalientes Informacion Matrimoniales, we know that the parents of Juan de Dios Bernal were Pedro Bernal and Francisca de Marmolejo. The record can be found at: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11671-60802-23?cc=1410092&…
Many thanks George for this invaluable resource! Your hard work in creating these indexes and generosity in sharing them is greatly appreciated! (http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18014)
Best regards
Austin Perez
Hi Jorge,
Those are my 7th great grandparents, but, I'm afraid my response is going to be equally convoluted and probably not that much help, since I dead end on Joseph Garcia and Josepha Fernandez also, although they'd probably have been born towards the end of the 17th century. This was one of my very first lines when I started last year and I was just saving records to my computer and not notating the image numbers and such. But, on the marriage record of Fernando Fermin Garcia on 3/26/1794 in Aguas Calientes, it lists him as Don Fernando Garcia, Esp. hijo de Jose Garcia y de Maria Alonso de los Ynojos, viudo de Doña Trinidad de Alba. As far as don Fernando and his father being married to half sisters, they weren't, but, I'm sure they're related somehow. Don Fernando Garcia's wife is listed as Doña Antonia Alonso de los Ynojos, Española, hija de Don Jose Alonso de los Ynojos and Doña Maria Guadalupe Bernales. Fernando's parents were married 16 April
1752 in Aguas Calientes. On the
updated my Family Tree on rootsweb.com/ This is a free website.
My Tree is called
DE LEON AND CARLOS FAMILY TREE under "Jalisco Families"
This link is very helpful in reading records in Spanish.
https://familyhistory.byu.edu/Downloads/Spanish_Extraction_Guide/Defaul…
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From: research-request
Hi,
I'm trying to decipher the child's maternal grandfather's name. Something Rodriguez. Also the rancho.
It's the one on the bottom right. Jose Margarito.
Laura,
17 de junio de 1810 - Xéres
Al margen: Santa Fé - José Margarito - Español, No. H., Folio 103
“En la Sta. Parroquial Yglesia de Xeres en dies y siete de junio de mil ocho cientos dies años: yo el Presbo. Don Cosme Damián Hinojos, bautiçé solemnente a José Margarito, espl de ocho días nacidos en Santa Fé a las quatro de la mañana, hijo lexítimo de Manuel Segovia y de Christina Rodrigues. Sus abuelos paternos: Rafael Segovia y Gertrudis Ramires. Los maternos: Santana Rodrigues y Barbara Sanches. Fueron padrinos: Carmen Rodrigues y Atilana Ruiz.” [Firma] Martín de Gongora [Firma] Cosme Damián Hinojos.
Santa Fé was a rancho in colonial Xérez and subsequently renamed to Ignacio Allende de Santa Fé. A major cristero battle took place here during the Cristero war.
Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino
Laura,
Looks like Santana Rodriguez to me. Says he was born in Santa Fe, not sure if that's the rancho.
Alice
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On Wed, 7/30/14, mayangrl@sonic.net wrote:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Need help reading baptismal cert
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2014, 5:48 AM
Hi,
I'm trying to decipher the child's maternal grandfather's
name. Something Rodriguez. Also the rancho.
It's the one on the bottom right. Jose Margarito.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15049-20544-78?cc=1804458&wc…
Thanks.
Laura Gonzalez
I'm wondering if anyone in the group has any information on my 9th Great Grandparents don Esteban de Aguiar y Quiroga and his wife Doña Maria de la Vega y Rivas aka Maria Guadalupe de Rivas. I'm trying to locate their parents. They would be from Ayo El Chico, Atotonilco de Alto or San Juan de los Lagos. They would've been born around 1690-1700. The mother of one of them is a Doña Ana Sanchez de Medina according to the baptism of this child that says the madrina is the abuela of the infant: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-19623-30913-24?cc=1874591&wc…
But, I'm not sure which parent she's the mother of. If anyone has any information on this family that would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
Christopher de Cuellar
Hi Laura,
It looks like it says he was born in Santa Fe and the grandfather's name is Santana Rodriguez.
Christopher de Cuellar
________________________________
From: "mayangrl@sonic.net"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2014 10:48 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Need help reading baptismal cert
Hi,
I'm trying to decipher the child's maternal grandfather's name. Something Rodriguez. Also the rancho.
It's the one on the bottom right. Jose Margarito.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15049-20544-78?cc=1804458&wc…
Thanks.
Laura Gonzalez
Laura--
The paternal grandparents are Rafael Segovia & Gertrudis Ramires, and the maternal grandparents are Santana Rodriguez & Barbara Sanches.
Rosalinda
Is the paternal grandmother Gertrudis?
Laura Gonzalez
Hola Members y Primos , I am a bit lost.
Ronnie,
Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtado were married in San Juan de Los Lagos
even though some people have it as San Miguel el Alto, which was at one
time a part of San Juan de Los Lagos.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18563-49215-15
The reason you are confused about Gertrudis Ramirez de Hermosillo and Paula
Gertrudis Garcia de Hermosillo is because her ancestors would
interchangeably use the compound surnames Ramírez de Hermosillo and García
de Hermosillo. They are descendants of Diego Alonso Ramírez del Pedrozo y
Hermosillo the son of Juan González de Hermosillo and María Muñoz.
According to licencia de pase a Indias for Juan González de Hermosillo his
father was Gonzalo García de Hermosillo. We aren't sure which ancestor had
the Ramírez surname but Diego Alonso Ramírez del Pedrozo y Hermosillo was
the first documented person to use the Ramírez surname.
The parents of Ignacia Hurtado were Julio Cayetano Hurtado and Maria de los
Dolores Maltide Macias-Valdez
http:/
Thank you
Ronnie
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 22:44:33 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Jose Munoz y Margarita Ramirez
>
> Ronnie,
>
> Ygnacio Munoz and Ygnacia Hurtado were married in San Juan de Los Lagos
> even though some people have it as San Miguel el Alto, which was at one
> time a part of San Juan de Los Lagos.
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18563-49215-15
>
> The reason you are confused about Gertrudis Ramirez de Hermosillo and Paula
> Gertrudis Garcia de Hermosillo is because her ancestors would
> interchangeably use the compound surnames Ramírez de Hermosillo and García
> de Hermosillo. They are descendants of Diego Alonso Ramírez del Pedrozo y
> Hermosillo the son of Juan González de Hermosillo and María Muñoz.
> According to licencia de pase a Indias for Juan González de Hermosillo his
> father was Gonzalo García de Hermosillo. We aren't sure which ancestor had
> the Ramírez surname but
Edgar Olguin Diaz
buenas tardes
el cuadro genealogico de la pareja de jose quilino ramirez y maria ignes pedrosa
es el siguiente:
PRETENSO:
jose quilino ramirez muñoz(1)
>
jose isidro ramirez muñoz(2) y maria ignacia muñoz de nava(2)
>
bartolome ramirez marques(3) y paula muños(3)
manuel muñoz de nava (3) y maria de san juan martin padilla (3)
>
agustin ramires(4) y josefa marques martin del campo(4)
esteban martin(4) y juana padilla gutierrez(4)
>
diego marquez(5) y maria de la cruz martin del campo(5)
christobal padilla (5) luiza gutierrez(5)
PRETENSA:
maria ygnes pedrosa(1)
>
felipe de pedrosa (2) y maria de san juan marques(2)
>
blas marquez (3) y maria antonia albares(3)
>
jose marquez(4) y catarina padilla(4)
>
diego marquez(5) y maria de la cruz martin del campo(5)
christobal padilla(5) y luiza gutierrez(5)
excelenete dia a todos
Here is a message I received from a person looking for their living
relatives.
Joseph, I have lots of relatives living in Guadalajara and I can have
contact with them to help. Please let this person know that I may be able
to help.
Thank you,
Esther Jordan
On Sat, Jul 26, 2014 at 4:43 PM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
> Here is a message I received from a person looking for their living
> relatives. If anyone would like to help this person please email me and
> I’ll
> put you both in contact with each other: joseph@nuestrosranchos.org
>
>
>
>
>
> My father passed away and my mother took his ashes to his hometown in
> Guadalajara Mexico. She was going to take me there but she passed away
> suddenly and now I don't know how to get there to visit his side of the
> family. I need help to find them.
>
>
>
>
>
> Aquí hay un mensaje que he recibido de una persona buscando a sus parientes
> vivos. Si alguien quiere ayudar a esta persona por favor envíeme un correo
> electrónico y voy a poner a ambos en contacto: joseph@nuestrosranchos.org
>
>
>
> Falleció mi padre y mi
My grandmother and uncle both resided in Guadalajara and visited us before my father's death when I was a child. After his death, I received some correspondence from my uncle, but lost contact about 1988. While my grandmother would no longer be living, there is a slight chance that my Uncle Armando is still alive. I have sent letters to his last known address over the years, but I think the city is laid out differently now. If anyone has ideas about locating information regarding him or his death, or the death of my grandmother, I would greatly appreciate it.
Alejandro
The way I have found living "Puentes" family in Guadalajara is by getting
either a good international telephone calling plan or a long distance
calling card and with a current listing of the "Becerra's" from a
Guadalajara phone book just go down the line explaining in Spanish about my
grandmother and uncle (giving details) and asking if the person happens to
know anyone with those names/history.
My project about 10 years ago took me several weeks as there were a lot of
"Puentes" in Guadalajara but I did find some that were related.
The hardest part might be finding some way of getting a current Guadalajara
phone book. Maybe you can get someone to SCAN those particular pages for
you.
Joseph
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Joseph Puentes
Clean@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html
> -----Original Message-----
> From: General [mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On
> Behalf Of becerracuse@verizon.net
> Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2014 10:16 PM
> To: general@lists
Joseph,
I was also told that the way to get people interested in helping find lost relatives is to contact the local radio station and they will have one of their moderators put the message on air. Of course, this might be more successful in a smaller community like Jerez in Zacatecas (Guadalajara is many times larger). In Guadalajara, many people have smart phones and there must be websites and chat rooms that can help. I found those in Jerez and elsewhere helpful even many years ago.
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
> From: makas@nc.rr.com
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Mon, 28 Jul 2014 06:40:58 -0400
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Locating information about Guadalajara family
>
> The way I have found living "Puentes" family in Guadalajara is by getting
> either a good international telephone calling plan or a long distance
> calling card and with a current listing of the "Becerra's" from a
> Guadalajara phone book just go down the line explaining in Spanish about my
>
Yes, I have tried looking for digital phone books for Guadalajara, but haven't had any luck. I even have the last known number, but it's so outdated that it only has 6 digits. Ideas for locating phone book listings would be helpful.
Of course, if he's still living he'd be about 80, and may no longer be living on his own. As far as I know, he did not marry or have children. He and my grandmother seemed to have resided in the same home for well over 20 years, so I had thought that the parish near his last known address might know of them, but it's been difficult to determine the neighborhood and parish.
If anyone is familiar with Guadalajara, perhaps they'd have a better understanding of where they were living based on the old address I have.
Alejandro
AJB
You can do a white pages search online at www.telmex.com but you will need
to access with a valid Telmex account. I used to have Guadalajara phone
books but they stopped leaving them here in town many years ago. I can look
for you online but it only gives 25 search results, maybe we can get lucky
Rick
I also have lots of family Guadalajara . I visit Guadalajara twice a year.
Deseo saber si alguien sabe si además de Lope Ruiz de Esparza y sus padres vinieron otros Ruiz de Esparza de España en los años siguientes y siglos siguientes.
Saludos, José Ruiz de Esparza
BUANAS DIAS A TODOS
tengos muchas dudas
salvador esparza se caso con franca xaviera de luna en 1734
el hijo de diego de esparza y maria de la torre
Hola Edgar,
¿En donde se encuentra la dispensa que mencionaste? Según una entrada de
Geni.com, Martín Ruiz de Esparza cc Francisca Sotelo de Jaen tuvo un medio
hermano llamado Nicolás López de Elizalde, hijo de Juan de Luevana cc María
López de Elizalde, que casó con Juana Ortega y Bonilla en Lagos de Moreno
alrededor de 1642 donde tuvieron hijos entre 1643 y 1664. Por lo que
escribió Bill Figueroa en http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/15402 y lo
que se encuentra en Retoños de España en La Nueva Galicia, María López de
Elizalde se casó dos veces, la primera vez con Juan de Luévana y la segunda
con Martín Ruiz de Esparza.
Saludos.
Armando
2014-07-22 11:29 GMT-05:00 :
> BUANAS DIAS A TODOS
>
> tengos muchas dudas
> salvador esparza se caso con franca xaviera de luna en 1734
> el hijo de diego de esparza y maria de la torre
> y este diego hijo de ignacio ruiz de esparza y de( ines garcia (pendiente )
> y este ignacio ruiz de esparza hijo de martin ruiz de esparza y de
> (francisca
Edgar Olguin Diaz}
hola armando
aqui te envio los link
es muy interesante esta dispensa ya que se mencionan varias generaciones:
aqui es donde se mencionan la dispensa
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/22184
este es el link en familysearch
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18410-38083-82?cc=1874591&wc…
gracias por responderme
estamos en contacto
que tengas un excelente dia
saludo
Como se ha hablado mucho en el foro sobre los descendientes de Moctezuma, les paso esta información que me llegó:
Conversando con nuestros investigadores 2014
Se escucha interesante este libro. Busque en amazon y ahi esta disponible la version digital.
http://www.amazon.com/%C3%BAltima-princesa-Inter%C3%A9s-General-Spanish…
Can anyone help in locating -Isidro Mercado- this is what I know of him.
Carmen Mosqueda Melendy
I have recently found information that Maria Luisa Mercado Topete and Jose German Feliciano Mercado Topete were half sister and brother of Priest Jose Maria Anacleto Mercado Luna.
The Mercado Topete brother and sister were married to Orendain sister and brother.
They were also the children of Jose Santiago Mercado and his second wife Maria Rita Topete.
Jose Santiago Mercado died Feb 14 1811 in San Blas Nayarit.
He was hung for assisting his son the Priest Jose Maria Anacleto Mercado during the independence war.
I am still trying to make the connection of these Orendain to Zenon Orendain the owner of the hacienda de San Andres.
Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Carmen M
Carmen Mosqueda Melendy
I forgot to state that Ciro Mercado was born on the Hacienda de San Andres
Volumes 5, 6, and 7 of "Catálogo de pasajeros a Indias durante los siglos XVI, XVII y XVIII" can be downloaded from Family Search. They are searchable pdf files.
I was under the impression that all the files in the Catálogo de Indias were already indexed and available on the PARES website (pares.mcu.es), please correct me if I'm wrong.
RJ Quiralte
i just browsed volume 5 and found a melchor carrillo davila, son of pedro carrillo davila and maria velmar
Thanks you were very helpful. could any of you Nice Gentlemen will tell me where can i get this excellent information.
Ignacio
Go to Family Search at https://familysearch.org/
Under "Search," select "Books" from the drop down menu.
Enter "pasajeros a indias" in the search field, then click "Search"
Click on the title of the book to download it. Books with the "stop" image (circle with a line through it) cannot be downloaded.
George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA
too bad only the second part of volume 5 is aviailable to read online
buenos dias a todos los miembros
alguien sabe quienes son los padres de Pedro Alonso de los Hinojos ?
casado con Ana Magdalena Dominguez medel el 3 Mayo 1620 en Sierra de pinos zacatecas.
When responding to a Research Digest please change the subject line and
delete irrelevant messages in the body of the email, as I have done, or
simply start a new email and send it the email address
Armando, Alicia, thank you for answering my question. That's what I'm
trying to do is break through a brick wall on a direct paternal ancestor. I
think Y-DNA67 sounds like the one I need. Thanks everyone. And, thanks for
taking the time to help me.
Paige
The time period of the FamilyTreeDNA myOrigins results can go back as far
10,000 years per a post at
http://dna-explained.com/2014/05/11/family-tree-dna-releases-myorigins/
National Geographic states
Armando,
Very interesting. I will read the links later when I have time. When you say "The Mesolithic are more
Northern European like and the Neolithic are more Mediterranean like" does that mean in appearance, or does appearance not enter into it at all? I ask because my husband looks like my nephrologist, who is from Iran, but the doctor is dark-skinned and my husband is light-skinned. They have the same features: tall, roman noses, bald, very hairy; in appearance they could almost be brothers.
Emilie
> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 06:30:19 -0500
> From: fandemma@gmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Time period of FTDNA Family Finder
>
> The time period of the FamilyTreeDNA myOrigins results can go back as far
> 10,000 years per a post at
> http://dna-explained.com/2014/05/11/family-tree-dna-releases-myorigins/
>
> National Geographic states that it can go back further. They use similar
> equipment and the markers are compared with
Hello Emilie,
The blog post referred DNA only. There is a change in the DNA between the
Mesolithic and the Neolithic which corresponds with a change in culture.
The Northern European DNA shows to have been in Europe in the Mesolithic
and therefore is older. The DNA of the Mesolithic people is similar whether
the remains are from La Braña in Spain or Sweden.
Armando
On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:47 PM, Emilie Garcia
wrote:
> Armando,
>
> Very interesting. I will read the links later when I have time. When
> you say "The Mesolithic are more
> Northern European like and the Neolithic are more Mediterranean like" does
> that mean in appearance, or does appearance not enter into it at all? I
> ask because my husband looks like my nephrologist, who is from Iran, but
> the doctor is dark-skinned and my husband is light-skinned. They have the
> same features: tall, roman noses, bald, very hairy; in appearance they
> could almost be brothers.
>
> Emilie
>
> > Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 06
Sent from my iPad
> On Jul 16, 2014, at 6:47 PM, Emilie Garcia wrote:
>
> Armando,
>
> Very interesting. I will read the links later when I have time. When you say "The Mesolithic are more
> Northern European like and the Neolithic are more Mediterranean like" does that mean in appearance, or does appearance not enter into it at all? I ask because my husband looks like my nephrologist, who is from Iran, but the doctor is dark-skinned and my husband is light-skinned. They have the same features: tall, roman noses, bald, very hairy; in appearance they could almost be brothers.
>
> Emilie
>
>> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2014 06:30:19 -0500
>> From: fandemma@gmail.com
>> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
>> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Time period of FTDNA Family Finder
>>
>> The time period of the FamilyTreeDNA myOrigins results can go back as far
>> 10,000 years per a post at
>> http://dna-explained.com/2014/05/11/family-tree-dna-releases-myorigins/
>>
>> National Geographic states
we all seem to assume that we are descendant of Spain, but just like my DNA, it reveal that my blood line has a minor percentage of an Iberian marker and more with northern and eastern Europe and Eas
You are taking your autosomal DNA results literally which is what a lot of
people that are new to DNA do with their results. If you were to see the
results of both parents or aunts and uncles and also of siblings and
cousins you would very likely see different results. That is what happens
with most people. The different results are a sign that the results have to
be looked at in a general sense and compared with lots of people to better
understand them. One of the very few ethnicities found in Mexicans that can
be detected in autosomal DNA by the three DNA testing companies and the
freely available calculators is the Native American DNA. Other than that
you would see that Europeans with no Iberian ancestry show Iberian in their
genealogy. That means that autosomal SNP markers that Iberians have are
attributed to Iberians and not Europeans in general as they should be. All
Europeans have some shared ancestry which is why you show northern European
and eastern European in your results
Hi Armando,
I did my autosomal DNA and mtdna with Family tree. What time period does it reflect? Is it recent or over 1000 years old? Thanks. Maven200
> On Jul 15, 2014, at 10:41 AM, Armando wrote:
>
> You are taking your autosomal DNA results literally which is what a lot of
> people that are new to DNA do with their results. If you were to see the
> results of both parents or aunts and uncles and also of siblings and
> cousins you would very likely see different results. That is what happens
> with most people. The different results are a sign that the results have to
> be looked at in a general sense and compared with lots of people to better
> understand them. One of the very few ethnicities found in Mexicans that can
> be detected in autosomal DNA by the three DNA testing companies and the
> freely available calculators is the Native American DNA. Other than that
> you would see that Europeans with no Iberian ancestry show Iberian in their
> genealogy. That means that
Armando,
What does "castellanos" mean? Does it mean they were from Castile, or is that a term for people from the Iberian Peninsula? My Spanish friend told me her father was a castellano because he was born in Castile and spoke castilian, but she said she was a Pamplonica because she was born in Pamplona, Navarre, and those people spoke another language. Actually, when we were on vacation in Spain, we found that each province had their own languages or different words from what we thought they were; they also were very provincial about their own area, telling us that we wouldn't like Barcelona as much as Madrid, things like that. So even over there, they debate their origins and which province and people, etc. are better.
My father had Basque ancestors, and my husband's DNA showed T1 Mesopotamian. Being a woman I can only find my mother's DNA which is Native American, Pre-Columbian. I wish I had had brothers or male cousins who carried my father's line.
Thanks,
Emilie
Emilie, I should have edited that comment with - castellanos [Iberians] . I
am sure that is more what Daniel meant since we all have ancestors from
other parts of the peninsula although a majority is from the south of Spain
and Portugal. Probably about 70%.
Armando
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