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Yeah, my mom, born near Magdalena, New Mexico, also used old Spanish 
words:
estijeras instead of tijeras
estenazas instead of tenazas

The following site, states:
Origen de estenazas y de estijeras parece aragonés.
http://www.hoyabunolchiva.org/iec/iec/publicacions/REV2/B5.HTM

She said muncho instead of mucho.

My dad who was from Mexico thought it was funny.

An interesting url for the Ladino Language:
http://www.home.earthlink.net/~benven/ladino.html

Gloria
who sometimes forgets and say muncho!!

Great link Victor.  You are better than a search engine!  Thanks.

Maria Cortez

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" <raices_regias@y...> 
wrote:
>
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Pacorro73@a... wrote:
> >
> > Now who ever said that the Jáuregui family was not discussed in 
José 
> > Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez de Frías' book titled Genealogía de 
> > Nochistlán, Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII.  
That 
> > is totally NOT TRUE.  I already read the whole book from cover to 
cover 
> > and entered much of the information from the book into my own 
family 
> > tree.  Despite the abundance of errors, José Luis Vásquez y 
Rodríguez 
> > de Frías has a lot of great original research.
> > 
> > If anyone has the book, I invite them to open it to pages 76 
through 
> > 78, Capitulo 21-Descendencia de Juan de Chávez Salguero y 
Francisca de 
> > Siordia.  Their daughter Josepha de Siordia-Chávez, married Juan 
> > Francisco Jáuregui, in Nochistlán on 4 Dec 1662.  Juan Francisco 
de 
> > Xáuregui was born in San Sebastián, Señoría de Vizcaya, España.  
San 
> > Sebastián is largest port city of the Basque country.  Jáuregui 
is a 
> > BASQUE surname and our Jáuregui ancestor was very BASQUE.  
> > Unfortunately the 1662-marriage document never mentions his 
parents.  
> > Very unfortunate indeed.  
> 
> Steven,
> 
> Seems like you have to take your search across the big pond:
> 
> http://www.elizagipuzkoa-artxiboa.org/artxiboa/index.html
> 
> Enter the "Archivo Histórico Diocesano de San Sebastián" and then
> click on Registros Sacramentales.
> 
> Good Luck!
> 
> Victor
>

John, I was mistaken about the organization the
gentlemen belong too; he told me it was called SHHAR,
not Somos Primos.  I'm trying to contact him through
SHHAR and once I do, I'll get his email address and
forward it to your attention.

In my search for the above unknown gentlemen, I found
a genealogist that does has information on the
original Gonzalez families from Los Altos that may
help you in your research. I've listed his name and
email address below.  Please contact him.

Steven F. Hernández
pacorro73@...
sfhernandez1@...

Regards,

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California


 
--- John Gonzalez <1gnzlz@...> wrote:

> 
> 1gnzlz@...
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Joseph Puentes 
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Saturday, December 24, 2005 3:32 AM
>   Subject: [ranchos] Alberto Duarte: 1550: Suave!!!
> 
> 
> 
>   can you contact the Westwood FHC and ask them if
> they know who you are talking about? Maybe he is a
> regular patron of that FHC. I would very much like
> to interview him for the NFU Podcast Project. I
> contacted the "Somos Primos" group trying to find
> information about this person. They had no record of
> him and he is not, at the present time, an active
> member. They have no idea of his whereabouts.
>   John.  
> 
>   I would also like to interview any member of
> Ranchos who feels they could concisely put their
> research into a nutshell of 10-15 minutes in an
> audio file. What do you think John Gonzalez?
> 
>   Thank you for the invitation, I appreciate it.  I
> feel that at the moment I am not ready because I
> would like some more time to gather  more
> information on my family in order to give a more
> complete account.
>   John Gonzalez.
> 
>   if any of the ranchos members would like to
> participate let me know. . .this would not be an
> interview but a monologue of you describing your
> beginning, middel and end discoveries and the
> process involved. . . .call it your own genealogical
> research oral history. It could be in English or
> Spanish. Steven? Victor? Francisco? Rosalinda?
> Angie? José Roman? Arturo? Kitty/Rich? Arturo?
> Connie? Deena? Lorenzo? Maria? Irma? Nena? Alicia?
> Helyn? Ronnie? Gloria? Gloria? Peggy? Ed? Evie?
> Javier? Josie? Mickey? Carol? Carol? Jonathan?
> David? Alberto? los demas? the rest?
> 
>   joseph
> 
> 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Pacorro73@a... wrote:
>
> Now who ever said that the Jáuregui family was not discussed in José 
> Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez de Frías' book titled Genealogía de 
> Nochistlán, Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII.  That 
> is totally NOT TRUE.  I already read the whole book from cover to cover 
> and entered much of the information from the book into my own family 
> tree.  Despite the abundance of errors, José Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez 
> de Frías has a lot of great original research.
> 
> If anyone has the book, I invite them to open it to pages 76 through 
> 78, Capitulo 21-Descendencia de Juan de Chávez Salguero y Francisca de 
> Siordia.  Their daughter Josepha de Siordia-Chávez, married Juan 
> Francisco Jáuregui, in Nochistlán on 4 Dec 1662.  Juan Francisco de 
> Xáuregui was born in San Sebastián, Señoría de Vizcaya, España.  San 
> Sebastián is largest port city of the Basque country.  Jáuregui is a 
> BASQUE surname and our Jáuregui ancestor was very BASQUE.  
> Unfortunately the 1662-marriage document never mentions his parents.  
> Very unfortunate indeed.  

Steven,

Seems like you have to take your search across the big pond:

http://www.elizagipuzkoa-artxiboa.org/artxiboa/index.html

Enter the "Archivo Histórico Diocesano de San Sebastián" and then
click on Registros Sacramentales.

Good Luck!

Victor

Now who ever said that the Jáuregui family was not discussed in José
Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez de Frías' book titled Genealogía de
Nochistlán, Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII. That
is totally NOT TRUE. I already read the whole book from cover to cover
and entered much of the information from the book into my own family
tree. Despite the abundance of errors, José Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez
de Frías has a lot of great original research.

If anyone has the book, I invite them to open it to pages 76 through
78, Capitulo 21-Descendencia de Juan de Chávez Salguero y Francisca de
Siordia. Their daughter Josepha de Siordia-Chávez, married Juan
Francisco Jáuregui, in Nochistlán on 4 Dec 1662. Juan Francisco de
Xáuregui was born in San Sebastián, Señoría de Vizcaya, España. San
Sebastián is largest port city of the Basque country. Jáuregui is a
BASQUE surname and our Jáuregui ancestor was very BASQUE.
Unfortunately the 1662-marriage document never mentions his parents.
Very unfortunate indeed. José Luis Vásquez y Rodríguez de Frías
provides A LOT of excellent information about this family.

Descendants of Juan-Francisco de Jáuregui

Juan-Francisco de JÁUREGUI Born: ca 1640 in San Sebastián, Guipúzcoa,
Señoría de Viscaya, España Died: Unknown in Mexticacán, Jalisco
+Josepha de CHÁVEZ Y SIORDIA Born: ca 1643 in Nochistlán,
Zacatecas Married: 04 Dec 1662 in Nochistlán, Zacatecas Died: 22 Mar
1693 in Mexticacán, Jalisco Father: Juan de CHÁVEZ SALGUERO Mother:
Francisca de SIORDIA

1 Pedro de JÁUREGUI Born: ca 1663 in Nochistlán, Zacatecas Died:
20 Dec 1693 in Mexticacán, Jalisco
+María PONCE DE LEÓN Born: ca 1669 in Nochistlán,
Zacatecas Married: 06 Jan 1685 in Nochistlán, Zacatecas Died: 27 Dec
1693 in Mexticacán, Jalisco Father: Sebastián PONCE DE LEÓN Mother:
Juana de MEDINA

Alicia,
while I think it's a wonderful idea, I don't think I (or every 
member) could commit to reading the same book. How about one member 
reads a book of their choice and makes a presentation to the rest of 
the group on the highlights of the book.  We could also consider a 
book-exchange.  I loan you one of mine and you loan me one of yours 
and we exchange back at the next meeting.  At any rate, I'll add this 
topic to our next meeting's agenda.
Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo" 
<alliecar@p...> wrote:
>
> OK Northern Californian's, this is a challenge to us all. What if 
we 
> plan that for our next meeting in March we each present the name of 
1 
> book along with the author, the possible merits of the book to the 
> group and we vote on it as the book of the quarter. As the first 
book 
> it might be best if it's a book in english, a book we can all get 
> either through Amazon or any of the on-line booksellers and that 
the 
> book should be $50.00 or less because some of these books are very 
> expensive.
> 
> Once we have decided on a book we can communicate it to all of the 
> Ranchos members. Anyone from Ranchos who wants to participate can 
do 
> so.
> 
> And here's to all of Ranchos, what say you on this matter because 
it 
> is now on the table for commentaries, suggestions etc.
> 
> Feliz Año a todos........Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo 
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen <mary.allen3770@s...> 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Victor:  
> >    
> >   I know this was addressed to Joseph, but I couldn't help but 
> overhear!  It sounds like a wonderful set of ideas.  Book reviews 
are 
> good because most of us have limited time and to be directed to 
good, 
> useful or interesting books is critical.  On the other hand,  it 
> would be a real service to catalog vital information from certain 
> books so that everyone doesn't have to search through the same 
> books.  It would be a great reliable bank everyone could draw 
from.  
> But we have to give credit where credit is due....Alicia did get 
this 
> started. 
> >    
> >   Isn't it great?  The group weaves in and out but is never 
> stagnant. The group is like a great tapestry. From the bottom you 
see 
> a lot of apparently disconnected threads.  But, from the top, it 
all 

Feliz Año Nuevo!
So - what are your genealogical research resolutions or goals for 2006? 
A year ago I had hoped to be able to do much more than I accomplished 
(which, alas, was very little) - so I am once again going to establish 
some goals in hopes of focusing my efforts and making new discoveries.
I was just thinking of this today, so I haven't made any concrete goals 
yet, but I hope YOU will share YOUR goals, and I can get some good 
inspiration.
BTW - I like Alicia's idea of "Book of the Quarter" - a good way to 
increase one's knowledge; I look forward to seeing your recommendations.
Thank you all for sharing your knowledge, ideas, expertise, and 
adventures. It has been a great year!

Blessings to you all for 2006.

Natalie Castro Coleman in Virginia,
Primarily researching Castro, Garcia, and Dueñas from Hacienda 
Astillero, Valparaiso district, Zac., who eventually settled in the 
Guasti and Cucamonga, CA area.

OK Northern Californian's, this is a challenge to us all. What if we 
plan that for our next meeting in March we each present the name of 1 
book along with the author, the possible merits of the book to the 
group and we vote on it as the book of the quarter. As the first book 
it might be best if it's a book in english, a book we can all get 
either through Amazon or any of the on-line booksellers and that the 
book should be $50.00 or less because some of these books are very 
expensive.

Once we have decided on a book we can communicate it to all of the 
Ranchos members. Anyone from Ranchos who wants to participate can do 
so.

And here's to all of Ranchos, what say you on this matter because it 
is now on the table for commentaries, suggestions etc.

Feliz Año a todos........Alicia Avelar Olmos de Carrillo 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Mary Allen <mary.allen3770@s...> 
wrote:
>
> Hello Victor:  
>    
>   I know this was addressed to Joseph, but I couldn't help but 
overhear!  It sounds like a wonderful set of ideas.  Book reviews are 
good because most of us have limited time and to be directed to good, 
useful or interesting books is critical.  On the other hand,  it 
would be a real service to catalog vital information from certain 
books so that everyone doesn't have to search through the same 
books.  It would be a great reliable bank everyone could draw from.  
But we have to give credit where credit is due....Alicia did get this 
started. 
>    
>   Isn't it great?  The group weaves in and out but is never 
stagnant. The group is like a great tapestry. From the bottom you see 
a lot of apparently disconnected threads.  But, from the top, it all 
comes together into a great design!  
>    
>   My work is wonderful but very stressful.  I coordinate volunteer 
services for the terminally ill, my second career after 38 years in 
education.  At the end of the day, I am sometimes emotionally drained 
but I  kick off my shoes and head for the computer to see what 
everybody has to say.  It is refreshing. Sometimes I smile at the 
polite exchanges.  Sometimes I wonder.  But it is always 
motivating.   Then I am ready for the next day.  Thanks.  
>    
>   Mary
> 
> "v.h.villarreal" <raices_regias@y...> wrote:
>   Joseph,
> 
> I've thought of something similar but instead of getting a group
> together to simply comment about or review a history book which is

I am willing to join a group like this.  If the chapter and book 
assigned to me is in English.  It sounds like a great idea and a way 
for many of us to contribute to our joint research.

Linda
Romero

I am willing to join a group like this. If the chapter and book
assigned to me is in English. It sounds like a great idea and a way
for many of us to contribute to our joint research.

Linda Romero