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Tomas de Villalpando and Michaela Romo de Vivar had several children, most likely born in Rincon de Romos, which included Juan Villalpando. I have not found their marriage record.

Juan Villalpando married Refugio Gonzales, and had Bacilio, among others in the early 1800s. Tomas and Michaela are named in the baptismal records.

Bacilio Villalpando married Tomasa Martinez and Maria Librada Mendosa, and had children by both wives in the 1840-60 period. Juan and Refugio are named as grandparents in the baptismal records.

My question: who were the parents of Tomas de Villalpando and Michaela Romo de Vivar?

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Hola prim@s,

On 16 May 1566, in Guadalajara, Alonso de Rubalcava appears as a witness in the PROCESO CONTRA JUAN DE BERMEO. His testimony is only in regards to the case, and gives no genealogical information - but it does list him as “maestro de la obra de nra sta yglesia(?), plus it gives us his approximate age (42/1524) and a signature (so we now know what he called himself: Alonso de Rubalcava or Robalcava).

Does anybody know his origins? Most have him as son of Mateo Rubalcava cc Juana Maria Gonzalez, and a grandson of conquistador Ruy Gonzalez and an Indian woman. I’ve seen books referenced, but I am leery of secondary resources, since we’ve seen some disproven with newer findings.

This new birth year raises new questions: if Alonso de Rubalcava was born ca 1524, that’s going to make it difficult for him to be grandson of a 1st conqueror. Ages given on these documents are rarely 100% accurate; I usually give them plus or minus 10 years. But even if he were born in 1534, it would be a tight squeeze. Anybody?
Gracias y saludos,
Manny Diez Hermosillo

I had found Padrones (Census) of Huejuquilla and Mezquitic, Jalisco, Mexico year 1783:

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

SGU,LEG,7015,2

Page 178.

Doesn't list them at all anymore. What happened?

Hi,

1. Has anyone with Ramirez surname from Nochistlan done a DNA test and found British/Irish dna?
2. Does anyone have info about parents for Antonio Ramirez (b. ~1733. d 27 Jun 1809 in Las Animas) or his wife Maria Gertrudis Rodriguez?
3. Any other thoughts based on below?

I ask this because dna test came back with some British/Irish dna. I filtered my dna matches by surname. All the common surnames for that area came back 0.0%, except for people who listed Ramirez. The Ramirez surname is only on one side of my family, which was expected based on the maternal vs paternal dna.

Based on the dna%, that they are great x5 grandparents, and how many children of theirs I descend from, I am guessing one of them is 25 or 50% British/Irish.

Hello All,

I am trying to find out some information on Cristobal Araiza(b. 1639) in Aguascalientes.

He is the son of Juan Araiza Medina and Maria De Isla Lossano.

In another forum on this site, Cristobal is mentioned as being married to a Bernarda De Mendoza.

There is a marriage in Aguascalientes on October 27, 1675 of a Xtoval Araiza and a Bernarda De Aldavo. I am trying to figures out if this is the same Bernarda.

Is there a connect to the Aldavo and Mendoza lines?

Now to Eztatlan...

There is an Antonio Araiza (b.abt 1675) married to a Jesus Bentura, I believe Antonio may be a son of Cristobal. In a baptism of their son Juan, I see a Bernanda Mendoza as a godmother. This makes me think there is a connection to Cristobal Araiza.

Cristobal Araiza and Bernarda Mendoza are godparents in Etzatlan as early as 1689.

My last question, is has anyone come across information on a Pedro Araiza Medina?

He is married in Guadalajara in 1688 and I suspect there is a relation to Cristobal.

Thank You all for your help.

Michael Araiza

Juan ARAISA y MEDINA and Maria LOSANO had another son, Gabriel, who married Micaela de BARGAS:

Grabiel ARAISA Lossano
hijo de Jn. de ARAISA MEDINA y Ma. LOSSANO
bap. 19 Mar 1650, Ags, Ags. #299421, C604761

Gabriel de ARAISA Y MEDINA
Married Micaela de BARGAS
16 Nov 1676, El Sagrario, Ags. Ags. #299823, M604845

Gloria Delgado

Hi,

Is the GEDCOM not working at the moment?

Buen día, primero muchas gracias por aceptarme en esta página, tengo algunas preguntas, ojalá me puedan ayudar, buscando mi árbol genealógico, me tope con José María Plascencia y con Agapita Huerta me gustaría si alguien pudiera dar mas información sobre ellos, la información que tengo es:
Esposo: José María Plascencia.
Esposa: Agapita Huerta.
Fecha de matrimonio. 07-mayo-1828.
Lugar de matrimonio: Jalostotilán, Jalisco.
Hijos: Pedro (1840), José Lino (1828), Pablo (1838), Severo (1842), Margarito (1832), Anastacia (1832 o 1838) y Juan (1843).
Algunos de sus hijos nacieron en San Miguel y algunos se casaron en Tepatitlán de Morelos.

Cita de este registro

"México matrimonios, 1570-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JC81-K4S : 10 February 2018), Jose Ma. Placencia and Agapita Huerta, 07 May 1828; citing Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion,Jalostotitlan,Jalisco,Mexico, reference ; FHL microfilm 279,302.

Since this is about the Macias, this might have been posted already. However it was good practice in creating tree (thanks Manny).

Pg 258 IM Christoval Masias Espl. 56 yo, vdo. De Maria Toscano con
Phelipa de Oliba Masias

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-62T7-BT2

Pg. 260 is another marriage of brother Joseph to another Mary Masias (possibly step as christoval has different wife).
Pg. 261 is the following tree
Alonso Masias Hermanos Rodrigo Masias
Thomas Masias 1st Rodrigo Masias
Christoval Masias Pretenso 2nd Rodrigo (espuesto y luego reconocido como hijo)
3rd Christobal Masias
4th Phelipa Masia Pretensa

Testigo de don Juan Calvillo, Espl. De 72 anos
That through his ancestors he knows that Alonso Masias and Rodrigo are brothers….etc. He then states that because they are distant it wasn't known, but when Joseph Peres Masias (masias peres) brother of the pretense married Maria Masias, Hermana de esta Phelipa de Oliva con dispensa. That is when Gregorio Masias relative of hers knew that they had to be related. This caused fights amongst each other.

I was wondering whether anyone has any information on this couple Juan
Gonzalez and Catarina Barrera. They would've been born about 1650 in
Aguascalientes probly. They're the parents of my ancestor Blas Gonzalez who
is usually listed as a mestizo.

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6XGS-2WT

some of the grandchildren use the name Gonzalez de Hermosillo, so I'm
guessing they're related to them in some way and probably the Juan Gonzalez
that's married to Catarina Barrera is probably Juan Gonzalez de Hermosillo
and I'm just wondering whether anyone has any information.

Danny C. Alonso

Hello Nuestros Ranchos Researchers,
I ran across an extremely unusual entry for 09/1859 in the Baptisms.
The September 2nd entry is not of a baptism at all, but refers to a celestial event.
I wish I had a better knowledge of reading Spanish, but I gleaned that
in the middle of the night colorful lights appeared. Googling the date I found that a
worldwide Solar Storm of 1859 of enormous magnitude occurred. Telegraph operators of the time were experiencing shocks and other power was disrupted.
I would love for someone to read the entry --it's not very long--and please translate it for us all to enjoy. What a great slice of life at the time and history worldwide. I can only imagine the conversations the next day!
Who says genealogical research is not exciting?!

Thanks so much,
Alice B Blake

Here's the info needed:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9Q97-YSLZ-XS4?i=501&wc=3PMG…

Hello Everyone,
I need help with a death record for Diego de Padilla. I can't figure out what is stated after it says " asi mismo mando inponer cuatro mil ???"
Please help. Here is the link; https://l.facebook.com/l.php?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.familysearch.org%2Fark…

Hello everyone

I'm usually not too bad at reading the handwriting, but I have the marriage record of Juan de Sandoval and Maria Guzman 9 Feb 1660 and I'm not quite sure about Juan's mother's name and where he's from.

bottom left:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BRBZ-Q?i=278&wc=3PS7-7…

"Ju. de Sandoval soltero hijo legitimo de Nicolas de Sandoval y (madalena? ana del??) y natural de ??titlan?"

Thanks for any help

~ Andrea

Dear Members,

Because of Alex's help I now know have primary documentary proof of who the parents and paternal grandparents of Hernán González Corona (1577-1622) were through the Testamento (will) of Juan Fernandez Nieto found in Jorge Palomino y Canedo "Los protocolos de Rodrigo Hernández Cordero, 1585-1591 : escribano público de Guadalajara," Jal. 1972, pp. 145-147. I had seen the names mentioned, here on Nuestros Ranchos (but without citation), and on less than trustowthy sites. But now there is a primary document. As the testamento/will document shows in relation to Hernan:

Parents: Juan Fernandez Nieto (?-1590) cc. Catalina de León (?-?). Hernán's paternal grandparents were Alonso Martín (?-before 1590) cc. Isabel Álvarez (? - after 1590). Juan Fernandez Nieto, the testator, also gives us the critical information that his own father (Hernan's grandfather), Alonso Martin, was "conquistador que fue de este Reyno de la nueva Galizia."(p. 145). The will also gives the age of Hernán as 13 in 1590, which would mean he was born around 1577. That would make better sense than what I previously had which was that he was born ca. 1590. He died ca. 1622 since there is a "Bienes de Difuntos" (in PARES, Archivo General de Indias, 1 Documento(s). Folios 307-309.) list that gives the names of his wife, Ines de Tapia y Aguayo and children.

So, here is my puzzle, and I return to it after I first asked here on NR in 2014 (maybe someone has new info). I have not been able to prove definitively how I descend from Hernan Gonzalez Corona because there are at least two but probably three people of the same name and there is a lacuna of information in the mid 1600s. I have THREE Diego Gonzales (a. Diego Gonzalez Corona y Piña, b. Diego Gonzalez de la Madriz, and c. Diego Gonzalez Corona y Tapia de Aguayo. The one I can prove direct descent from is a Diego Gonzalez-Corona y Piña (or Peña). He is married to Juana de Santa Cruz. According to Agraz's "Esbozos Históricos de Tecolotlán," Diego Gonzalez Corona y Piña is married to Mariana Ruiz Galindo (p.356). This would make it easy because that would make Diegos a and b above of to be the same person given the Bienes de Difuntos info. However, there is a dispensa from the 1780s (admittedly a LONG time after) https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-653X-SN?i=96&cc=1874591 which clearly shows Diego as the son of a Pedro Gonzalez, of whom I have not found any other evidence. I suppose that if they were wrong and Pedro=Hernan, then the mystery would be solved.

Any insight anyone?

Thanks!

Sergio

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18379-41013-45?cc=1874591&wc…

i'm having a hard time understanding some parts of this page

Good Morning Grupo,
Anyone else experiencing technical difficulties scanning familysearch entries?
For the last few days the site "freezes up" on me after scanning about 30 pages.
Sometimes refreshing the page gets it back up for another 30 pages.
Usually, I've got to restart the search from initial page to continue where I left off.
Frustrating, but not sure if the problem is with the site or on my end.
I'm patient, but knowing how intense I get when researching, I hesitate to start at all.
Any computer savvy help would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much,
Alice BB

Hola Members, I just wondered if any one heard that Ana de La Mota y Vera (married to un Diego Padilla) ancestors were of Jewish origin.
Ronnie Reynoso
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It's been a long time since I've posted. Since that time, my research has intensified and extended to actually looking up one of the few living relatives still in Mexico who took me around to the place of our ancestors, which turns out to be a "rancho" called Aguajes, Zacatecas.

There was a woman who contact me after seeing my tree - her name is Martha Vogel who is related to me via the Herrera line. It turns out that her great grandfather Tranquilino Herrera was also the great grandfather of the relative that took me around all of Zacatecas. As life has it, I have a picture of her great grandparents because he was the grandfather of my grandmother Norberta Herrera Luna. Yes, in this small rancho community, it appears everyone had inter-married, which was a common practice back then, but really hell to try to figure out as relates to geneology.

Hello Group,
Could someone please tell me if the name Lino is a short form or nickname
for another name. Thanks so much.
Alice BB

These marriages have not been extracted from the Asientos film entitled Matrimonios 1751/61 (note error in date, this is actually 1757/67:

12 Sep 1757 (images 7-80
• Jose Miguel Lopez, padres no conosidos
• Maria de la Concepcion Villalpando, d/o Francisco Villalpando and Petra de la Candelaria Luebana

31 Aug 1758 (images 32-33)
• Antonio Mendes Ydalgo, s/o Juan Ygnacio Mendes Ydalgo and Maria Gertrudis Ponce de Leon
• Anna Maria Gertrudis de Villalpando, d/o Eusebio de Villalpando and Nicolasa Francisca Lopez; vda Juan Darien Chispas

18 Feb 1760 (image 74)
• Jospeh Antonio Villalpando, s/o Miguel Villalpando and Gertrudis Theresa de Santiago
• Maria Antonia Esparza, Nicolas Vizente Esparza and Maria Getrudis Bernal

29 May 1760 (images 81-2)
• Nicolas Antonia de Villalpando, s/o Antonio de Villapando and Petra de la Candelaria Luebana
• Anna Lucia de Araiza, d/o Joseph Dines? De Ariaiza and Maria Victoria Serrano

6 Oct 1760 (image 89)
• Juan Antonio de Araizo, natural son of Francisco Araizo and Maria Victoria de la Cruz
• Francisca Narcisa de Villalpando, d/o Francisco de Villalpando and Petra de Luebana

10 Nov 1760 (image 92)
• Francisco Xavier de Villalpando, s/o Juan Antonio de Villalpando and Josepha Pichardo
• Clara Ypolita Dolores Fonseca, d/o Marcos Fonseca and Josepha Manuela Rodrigues

30 Mar 1761 (image 99)
• Joseph Antonio de Villalpabdo, s/o Eusebio de Villalpando and Nicolasa Francisca Lopez, vdo Dona Juana de Dios Esparza
• Juana Maria Francisca del Mercado, d/o Juan de Dios Mercado and Barbara Castorena

29 Aug 1762 (image 118)
• Joseph Nasario Peres Calbillo, s/o Joseph Ygnacio Peres Calbillo
• Rita Michaela Romo de Vibar, d/o Miguel Romo de Vibar and Marzela Martines de Sotomayor

19 Feb 1765 (image 159)
• Balentin Juan Nepomuceno Serrano, s/o Miguel Serrano and Monica Quiteria Quintana
• Maria de la Luz Lopes alias Villalpando, d/o Nicolasa Francisca Lopez, and padrfe no conosido

3 Jun 1765 (image 163)
• Joseph Vizente Larranaga, s/o Bruno Larranaga and Ana Ruiz de la Fuente
• Maria Antonia Guadelupe de Villalpando, d/o Juan Miguel de Villalpando and Gertrudis Theresia de Santiago

29 Oct 1766 (image 192)
• Francisco Yssidoro Peres de los Rios, s/o Yldefonso Peres de los Rios and Anna Maria de Torres
• Phelipa de Jesus Villalpando, d/o Pedro Joseph Villalpando and Michaela Martines

2 Mar 1767 (image 199)
• Joseph Mathias Moran, s/o Roque Moran and Maria Gertrudis Esparza
• Maria Joseph de Villalpando, d/o Joseph Anotnio de Villalpando and Juana Maria de Olibar y Messa

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Does anyone have information about Yldelfonso Gonzalez Placensia born around 1680 in Cuquio? He is the son of Maria Ana Placensia and unknown Gonzalez. I hope someone knows the name of the husband of Maria Ana Placensia.

Yldedfonso G. P. married Josefa Rodriguez around 1700-05, possibly in Cuquio. Their son Luis received a dispensation in 1729 to marry Manuela Becerra Gutierrez. The dispensation states that Yldelfonso Gonzalez Placensia and Petrona Gutierrez "son primos segundos." Petrona Gutierrez Placensia (mother of Manuela B. G.) is the daughter of Balthazar G. & Maria Placensia.

Thanks,
Arturo

Estoy buscando los padres de Felipe Neri de Alba , el habitaba en el Tigre , Encarnación de Diaz , Jalisco.

Su esposa es Maria Ignacia Josefa Ximenez
y sus hijos son

Maria Alba Ximenes
1746–Fallecido(a)

Miguel Antto. Alba Ximenes
1749–Fallecido(a)

Juan Maria De Guadalupe Alba Ximenes
1752–Fallecido(a)

Miguel de Alva Jimenez
1759–Fallecido(a)

Rafael Martin de Alva Jimenez
1760–Fallecido(a)
Jose Antonio Alva

si alguien tiene idea de quienes son su padres o como encontrarlos se los agradecería

Don Manuel de Villalpando and his wife Dona Maria Gregoria Guardado (d/o Eugenio Jose Guardadp and Maria Gertrudis Garcia) had at least 9 children from 1778 the late 1790s, of whom 8 are in the baptismal registers of Asientos, AGS. For one, Rafael, there is no baptism record, but his marriage record, and the baptism records of his children place him in this family.

I have not found a marriage record for Manuel and Gregoria.

Does anyone know who Manuel's parents are?

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Hola Forum,

About 2 years ago, I was helping my cousins the Pedrozas with their family tree. I stopped at Joseph Miguel de Pedroza because in his marriage record it states he was from Padres no conocidos. I looked over the record yesterday and noticed someone had added that he was born in Sauces, Lagos de Moreno but there was no source for it. I found their IM and in the image it stated he was natural de Dionicia (so he did have a mother listed) and from the Sauces in Lagos. I then read the testigos and a Francisco Xavier de Pedroza stated he knew Joseph since he was just born. I looked up Francisco Xavier and right under him born in 1706 was Maria Dionicia Pedroza.

Joseph Miguel de Pedroza LKRL-BZ4 cc 19 May 1748 Magdalena Munoz De Alba

Marriage Image: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-DTDQ-JS5

IM Image: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-6919-Y3W

Maria Dionicia Pedroza Macias (25 yo) was married to Nicolas Dias Tiscareno (44yo) vdo. de Juana Maria del Campo Yssasi Pedroza… They had a dispensa because his wife and wife to be were 3rd blood relation, but I had not read it 2 years ago. He states he has had a long standing illicit relationship with her and being that she is a Huerfana (mother was still alive) and very poor and their relationship was well known publicly that she would not be able to find someone to marry her.

Dispensa: https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-629D-TF

(Rollo 167991 OAH 2353 (Luz Monejano 197/1060 per Retornos de Espana de la Nueva Galacia por Mariano Gonzalez Leal)

From all this information it seems Nicolas Dias is the father of Joseph Miguel Pedroza. Here is the problem, Joseph Miguel would have been born around 1725, and they did not get married until 1731 6 years later but Nicolas Dias would have still been married as he was a vdo. for only 7 months in April 1731.
I have not searched to see if any of Joseph Miguel Pedroza used Dias or Tiscareno though that might have started a quarrel with his other children maybe.
Would love some other insight. Thanks