DNA Forum


okay, i just know that some of you are itching (pues rasca) to know
about your Mexican DNA. And i just know you wish this group provided you
with a lot more high quality messages for you to increase your learning
on this subject. . .well never fear the Mexico DNA forum is alive and in
operation thanks to Gary Felix. why not have a look and get all your
questions asked and wait for some good answers. . . .well those answers
won't be coming from me because I'm still in the asking mode.


http://www.ybase.org/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=511

joseph

ps: the main DNA page for this project is found at:
http://members.tripod.com/~GaryFelix/index63.htm




Everton's Newsline--13 May 2004

Joseph,

I have been really busy and have not contributed for a
while.  Is that why I no longer have access to the ranchos
group?

 

Nena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg


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Sent: Thursday, May 13, 2004 9:17
PM

Subject: [ranchos] Everton's Newsline--13
May 2004



New file uploaded to ranchos


Hello,

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  Description : Kinship between Roberto Martínez and Steven Hernández 

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New file uploaded to ranchos


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New Files Added for Los Altos de Jalisco

Hey everyone,
Hope you all are having a good weekend.  I made time today to add 
some files to my new Jalisco folder, more specifically 
Jalostotitlan, San Miguel El Alto, and San Juan de los Lagos.  The 
most common names in these files are Gonzalez, Martin, & Padilla.

I'm not all that far into the history of my familia in Jalisco.  But 
I'll be making a lot of additions in the next four months.  I'm 
fortunate to be able to go to Salt Lake City and the Family History 
Library there, and will make a lot of additions to these files in 
early December and early February. 

Check it out.

Take care,
Roberto




Necesito una Traduccion



Hey,



is there anyone out there up to a translation request? I send out the
below email to all prospective members. Lately I've found the need to
have the same email in Spanish but I don't feel up to the challenge. .
.well of course I could do it and make it so it sounds like a 3rd
grader did it, but I'd like it to read right. Anyway this letter is an
example and not written in stone (this means if you have suggestions
for a completely new letter to send out sounds good to me, but at the
minimum keep the 2 requirements to be part of the group part of your
version. . .I won't budge on this part!).



thanks,



joseph



============================================



Roberto Martinez de Los Altos



que te dije!



I told you that you and Steven would probably hook up. I'm glad you
have caught his interest as now you and those other cousins he
mentioned will have plenty to talk about. If possible it
would be way cool if you could keep the "non personal" discussions on-list
but you guys have to decide that one. Its just good to see some of
my effort paying off in discussion among the members. Anyway if you
keep it on-list very fine and if you go off-list esta bien tambien.



Be ready for the rush of material and in your research if you find that
you expand to other geographical areas of Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or
Aguascalientes please share this info as well as others might care to
join your primos network.



oh by the way tambien soy Padilla but my Padillas are from the Juarez,
Chihuahua area and maybe came from Los Altos but I don't have any proof
of that.



oh another thing that would be so very cool would be this DNA thing you
mentioned. It would be great if you get sold
on the DNA testing if you would then try to do a "Los Altos de Jalisco"
DNA sub-project within the Mexico Surnames project by Gary Felix. Maybe
you came into the group just at the right time to motivate other folks
to invest a few "shekles" (My DNA said I have a very small % of Jewish
in me. . .shalom) anyway invest a few shekles to get some of the
possible relations confirmed via DNA. . .if you all decide to do this
please let me know before you proceed as I'd like to talk to you
beforehand. I want to make sure the "tiny" bit I know about it is comon
knowledge with you.



thanks,



Joseph from Rancho de Animas, Santa Maria de Los Angeles, y Colotlan,
Jalisco/Sombrerete, Villanueva, y Zacatecas, Zacatecas



-------- Original Message --------

Hey hey

Hope everyone is doing well.  Just wanted to introduce myself.  I'm Roberto Martinez living in Albuquerque, Nuevo Mexico.  First want thank Joseph for putting in time to create this space. 


I was born in San Jose CA & found my way to Albuquerque NM.  My mother was born in Taft, Texas & my father in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.  In Jalisco, my grandfather Brigido Martinez Padilla & his family were from Jalos & San Juan de los Lagos.  My grandmother Soledad Gonzalez Padilla & her family were mostly from San Miguel & Jalos, & she in Villa Obregon (Canadas).    



Names

Irma,

 

I'll tell you right now who all those fathers were:  "Espanoles aprovechados."  I like your speculations. 

 

Alice

Irma GomezLucero <igomezlucero@...> wrote:

wrong Las Animas, sorry

Hola, Jose. I'm a new comer to Los Ranchos but not to the quest for family information. Your family name prompts me to share some of my findings with you on the chance that there may be a connection. I recently learned that my grandmother's name was/may be Maria Macias...and not Maria Garcia which is the name/person my mother Guadalupe (12/12/03), was searching for until the day she died. Grandmother Maria died prematurly 1906 (age 17) Por. Diaz Hospital/ Ciudad Chihuahua leaving Guadalupe in the care friends (Petra/Tomas Dominguez). Maria's husband had been pressed into military service by fed. gov. Maria Macias would die before he returned to reclaim his daughter Guadalupe..age2-3. When Petra/Tomas died, Guadalupe was "adopted" and taken away to the USA by foster grandparents Alejandra Castillo and Gaspar Flores whom I came to know as my grandparents. Guadalupe later married Leonardo Felix (Antonia Fernandez, Jerez, Zac/Trinidad Felix-Hermita Guadalupe, Zac.). Once in the USA, Guadalupe never heard again from her father. I can supply you with more details... if any of these names or situations make sense to you. A review of Maria Macias' death notice indicates she was single, age 17, and hailed from Parral. Maria was believed to have married "Jose Carrillo" ( Zac.) in Ciudad Chihuahua but I have been as yet unable to find any birth or marriage record during my visits there. I also visited the archives at Parral (1999) but the records were not yet accessible for research. Please advise if any of this makes sense to you./Adelante-Raul Felix   


-----Original Message-----
From: zendean
Sent: Sep 15, 2004 10:43 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [ranchos] wrong Las Animas, sorry

wrong Las Animas, sorry

When
we visited Jerez, Zacatecas, about 10 years ago, I noticed people would come in
bus loads from Santa Maria de los Angeles, Jalisco, to Jerez to do their
shopping on Saturdays.  Also, I met an elderly gentlemen that lived in
both Jerez and Santa Maria de los Angeles. 

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There
may have been families from Santa Maria de los Angeles that had family
ties in Jerez, since Jerez was the largest city in the area for many years. Who
knows?

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size=2>Regards,

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size=2>Alberto Duarte Prieto.


size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: Joseph Puentes
[mailto:makas@...]
Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 2:26
PM
To: loulou_rodriguez; LosRanchos
Subject: [ranchos]
wrong Las Animas, sorry

oops sorry I should have read
further before I just posted my message.
My relatives came from Las Animas
that is close to Santa Maria de Los
Angeles not the one close to
Nochistlan,

sorry,

joseph



My Genealogy

Hello Lourdes,

 

I also descend from that area of Nochistlan/Tlachichila Zacatecas. I have friends that are said to be distant family here in San Jose that are Rodriguez and are from that area. My surnames are Avelar, Olmos, Aguayo, Ruiz, Esparza, Munoz.

 

I have often heard family members talk about Las Animas and the Rodriguez, Oropeza and Delgadillo surnames. I have relatives in LA who are Olmos Delgadillo who are from Tlachichila just outside of Nochistlan and I have an uncle who's ex wife is Dolores Oropesa, she also lives in San Jose and is from the same area.

 

This should be interesting to see where or if our families intersect.

 

Happy Hunting................Alicia

loulou_rodriguez <loulou_rodriguez@...> wrote:

Hi Everyone!
I realize my introduction to the Ranchos Group is well overdue. My
name is Lourdes Rodriguez Jimenez. I have been researching my
ancestors off and on for a few years now but have dedicated much time
to my research over the last year. My family is from a ranch called
Las Animas (also known as Daniel Camarena) which is located
approximately 1-2 miles outside of Nochistlan, Zacatecas.

The surnames I am researching are as follows: Rodriguez, Jimenez,
Romo, Oropesa, Ramires, Ortega, Contreras, Martines, Borrayo,
Lomelin, Cervantes (Quesada), Melendres, Padilla, Donlucas, Nunon
(Nunez), Delgadillo, Quirarte, Prieto and Macias. I have not traced
any of my ancestors outside of Nochistlan, yet! My earliest data
dates back to the mid 1800s - late 1700s.

I was really exciting about finding this group and I truly look

forward to working with all of you, sharing ideas, tips and
information.

Sincerely,
Loulou




Genealogy Humor

Here is some humor that I found in a message board.  I
hope you get a laugh out of it like I did and realize
that all of our ancestors did this.
 
ANCESTORS GUIDE TO NAMING

  1) Thou shalt name your male children: James, John,
  Joseph, Abel, Richard, Thomas or William.

  2) Thou shalt name your female children: Elizabeth,
  Mary, Martha, Maria, Sarah, Ida, Virginia or Mae.

  3) Thou shalt leave NO trace of your female
children.

  4) Even after naming your children using the above
  lists, thou shalt never refer to them by those names
  again; instead, thou shalt call them by strange
  nicknames, such as: Ike, Eli, Polly, Dolly, and
Sukey.

  5) Thou shalt not use any middle names on ANY legal
  documents or census reports and whenever possible,
use only initials on legal documents.

  6) Thou shalt learn to sign all documents illegibly
so that your surname can be spelled, or misspelled in
  various ways: Tipper, Topper, Hopper, Tucker,
Tapper.

  7) Thou shalt, after no more than 3 generations,
make
  sure that all family records are lost, misplaced,
  burned in a court house fire, lost at sea or buried
so that NO future trace of them can be found.

  8) Thou shalt propagate misleading legends, rumors
and vague innuendo regarding your place of origin:
    a) You MAY have come from England, Ireland,
  Scotland, Wales ... or Iran.
    b) You MAY have American Indian Ancestry.
    c) You MAY be descended from one of three brothers
  that came over.

  9) Thou shalt leave no cemetery records, or
headstones with legible names; nor will any of the
dates thereon match those in any public records.

  10) Thou shalt leave no family bible with records of
  birth, marriage or death.

  11) Thou shalt ALWAYS flip thy name around. If born
  James Albert, thou must make the rest of thy records
  in the name of Albert, AJ, JA, AL, Bert, Bart or
Fred.

  12) Thou must also flip thy parent's names around
when making reference to them, although "Unknown" is
an
  acceptable alternative.

  13) Thou shalt name all generations of children with
  the identical first names, as well as all of your
  brothers so that all cousins are named the same.



		
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My Genealogy

Hi Everyone!
I realize my introduction to the Ranchos Group is well overdue. My 
name is Lourdes Rodriguez Jimenez. I have been researching my 
ancestors off and on for a few years now but have dedicated much time 
to my research over the last year. My family is from a ranch called 
Las Animas (also known as Daniel Camarena) which is located 
approximately 1-2 miles outside of Nochistlan, Zacatecas. 

The surnames I am researching are as follows: Rodriguez, Jimenez, 
Romo, Oropesa, Ramires, Ortega, Contreras, Martines, Borrayo, 
Lomelin, Cervantes (Quesada), Melendres, Padilla, Donlucas, Nunon 
(Nunez), Delgadillo, Quirarte, Prieto and Macias. I have not traced 
any of my ancestors outside of Nochistlan, yet! My earliest data 
dates back to the mid 1800s - late 1700s.

I was really exciting about finding this group and I truly look 
forward to working with all of you, sharing ideas, tips and 
information.

Sincerely,
Loulou