(UPDATE)After years, I have demolished my Villalpando fam brick wall: Diego Villalpando Diaz Pichardo and Gert Rodriguez de Aro
Hello everyone,
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Congratulations! I don’t know much about the Villalpando’s, other than Maria Sotelo was Tomas’ second wife, his first wife being Maria de Leon y Vargas, daughter of Francisco de Leon and Matiana de Vargas.
Here’s the IM for Juan Pichardo and Gertrudis Narbais, dated 10 Feb 1706, San Matias, Pinos. He was born around 1679 in Toluca, son of Joseph Picardo and Josepha de Arzate y Flores. Gertrudis Narbais was born around 1686 in San Luis Potosi, hija de padres no conocidos. There were 2-3 families named Narvaez in SLP; it’d be impossible to say which one she descends from.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BL3M-T?i=221&wc=MC7X-W…
Here’s their marriage record, 24 Feb 1706, in Pinos:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-BW9S-5G?i=37&wc=3PS9-P…
Here’s the IM for Juan Antonio Villalpando cc Josepha Flores, dated 3 Feb 1727, Real de Asientos. The 3rd witness was Pedro Narvaes, born around 1670; he said he was related to one of the bridal couple
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Thank you so very much for that extra info on my Diaz Pichardo y Flores family.
Question, how do you know Juan Diaz Pichardo's mother went by de Arzate y Flores (and not just de Arzate). Is there a document where she goes by the Flores surname too? On her son Juan Pichardo's marriage document she just goes by de Arzate. I mean it makes sense if she is Flores too since her granddaughter Josepha (married to Juan Antonio de Villalpando) went by Josepha Flores.
Kind Regards
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Juan Diaz Pichardo married twice; after the death of Gertrudis Narvaez on Puesto de El Tuliyo in Asientos, he married Catalina Nieto, on 5 Jul 1728 in Asientos. On the partida for that marriage, his mother is called Josepha Flores:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-67YS-DDQ?i=179&wc=M6QX…
Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo
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Thank you Manny! Greatly appreciate it!
Question, do you or anyone here know where I can find the dispensas for Mexico City, Centro Asuncion?
I found the matrimonio for a Joseph Sanchez Pichardo and Josepha Garcia de Arzate in Mexico City married on 10 March 1672. Their son, my ancestor, Juan Diaz Pichardo married Gertrudis Narvaes 24 Feb 1706. He is said to be natural of Toluca. On the possible marriage doc of his parents Joseph Sanchez Pichardo and Josepha Garcia de Arzate, it says that Joseph Sanchez Pichardo is also from Toluca, so that makes me think that these should be Juan's parents. The fact that both are named Joseph and Josepha, and both have Pichardo and de Arzate, respectively, also makes me believe it's them. Plus, the timeline as well. If Juan Diaz Pichardo married in 1706, then that puts him born about ~1680. This couple, possible parents of Juan married in 1672, so perfect, it fits.
But now, I want to check informacion matrimonial and the dispensa (since it says
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