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Thank you for your response.  Needless to say it's been difficult getting any "hits" so far!  But I'll keep trying.
 
Teri Romero

----- Original Message ----
From: Santos Luna
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 9:38:25 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] FILOMENO & PERFECTO ARTEAGA Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman

I have a Ulloa line that starts 1679 in Tlaltenango however, I do not have any of the names you mention. Perhaps Maria Josefa Ulloa connects back a few generations.
  Lots of Luck in your research.
  Helyn
  San Jose, CA
 
 
teresitar wrote:
 
Filomeno was Perfecto's father, Perfecto's mother was Maria Josefa Ulloa. Filomeno & MaJosefa were married on 22 Feb 1843 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zac., according to Mormon records. I would like to find records of any kind related to Filomeno and MaJosefa.

I have been able to trace the family pedigree from him but I do not have anything else other than a marriage date. I would like to be able find their birthdates and birthplaces, perhaps even their parents!

Mormon church records also indicate that they had a son, his name was Perfecto Arteaga, born on 23 Apr 1844 also in Tlaltenango. Perfecto married Refugio Casanova. Refugio's parents, Lino Casanova and Maria Prudencia Albares were married on 14 Feb 1838 in Tlaltenango.

Perfecto & Refugio had 5 children, at least two of them were born and christened in Rancho del Terrero, Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, these were; Filomeno II and Lino both born on 3 Jun 1873, twin boys. Also one of their other children was my great grandfather, Jacinto Casanova Arteaga I, born on 10 Sept 1869. Jacinto married Sara Bracamontes Berumen. I have been told that her father, Jose Rafael Berumen was at one time Mayor of Aguascalientes.

Perhaps you may have seen these names somewhere or in another website? Please let me know. I would like very much to find any information related primarily to Filomena and Maria Josefa Arteaga.

Can you please direct me to where the Nuestros Ranchos user guide is.
 
Yvonne

----- Original Message ----
From: arturoramos
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, October 13, 2008 7:36:52 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Uploading a Genealogy Tree

Greetings to all:
My family trees have been posted under Member Genelogy Files/Anita Morales,

Names shown under "Ancestors of Pedro G Alvarado" from San Luis Potosi are: Alvarado, Galvan, Rodriguez, Tobar, Soto, Lozano, Ybarra, Carmona, Mireles, Martinez, Morales, Ybarra. Others shown: Gonzalez, Lopez, Perez, Molinas, Luera, Medina, Garcia, Munis
Places: Matehuala, San Luis Potosi, Encarnacion, Rancho de la Viuda, Catorce, Bocas de Caballero, San Geronimo Moctezuma, Hacienda de Piotillo, La Mesita or La Morita, Villaldame and Bustamantes NL and San Antonio Texas.

Names listed under "Ancestors of Maria Gonzalez" from Zacatecas are: Gonzalez, Breña, Bañuelos, Rodriguez, Carlos, Hernandez, Salinas, Correa, Sepulveda, Sanchez, del Muro, Gallegos, de la Torre, Valdez, Carrillo, Gamboa, Felis Arellano, Aro, Quero. Robles, de los Santos. Others shown: Valdez, Talabera, Delgado, Silva, de los Reyes, Davila, Tenorio, Ortiz de San Pedro.
Places: Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Jerez, Tepetondo, Juanchorrey, Real de Panuco, Monte Escondedo and San Antonio Texas.

I appreciate the members review and comments. Hopefully, we can make connections. Thanks - Anita

I UPLOADED MY PEDIGREE SO EVERYONE CAN REVIEW IT AND POSSIBLY FIND A MATCH. ALL THE FAMILY LINEAS ARE LISTED.

SUBI MI ARBOL GENEALOGICO ESPERANDO PUEDAN REVISARLO Y ENCONTRAR UNA POSIBLE CONEXION, ESTAN INCLUIDAS LAS DISTINTAS FAMILIAS O APELLIDOS QUE BUSCO.

THANKS

Filomeno was Perfecto's father, Perfecto's mother was Maria Josefa Ulloa. Filomeno & MaJosefa were married on 22 Feb 1843 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zac., according to Mormon records. I would like to find records of any kind related to Filomeno and MaJosefa.

I have been able to trace the family pedigree from him but I do not have anything else other than a marriage date. I would like to be able find their birthdates and birthplaces, perhaps even their parents!

Mormon church records also indicate that they had a son, his name was Perfecto Arteaga, born on 23 Apr 1844 also in Tlaltenango. Perfecto married Refugio Casanova. Refugio's parents, Lino Casanova and Maria Prudencia Albares were married on 14 Feb 1838 in Tlaltenango.

Perfecto & Refugio had 5 children, at least two of them were born and christened in Rancho del Terrero, Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, these were; Filomeno II and Lino both born on 3 Jun 1873, twin boys. Also one of their other children was my great grandfather, Jacinto Casanova Arteaga I, born on 10 Sept 1869. Jacinto married Sara Bracamontes Berumen. I have been told that her father, Jose Rafael Berumen was at one time Mayor of Aguascalientes.

Perhaps you may have seen these names somewhere or in another website? Please let me know. I would like very much to find any information related primarily to Filomena and Maria Josefa Arteaga.

Hello, I've just joined this group and am looking forward to interacting and exchanging information with all of you. I am researching Ruiz, Zavala, Castellanos, Dias, Mendes, Rodrigues and Quevedo. Currently I
am researching the Castellanos and Zavala families that lived near or in La Barca. I've been fortunate to find some records of baptism for Porfirio Castellano Zavala (Sep 17 1875) my GG Grandfather. The records indicate that the baptism took place in San Juan Bosco so this suggests that they lived near that local parish. What is curious to me is the criss-crossing of surnames. For example, Porfirio Castellanos Zavala was married to Guadalupe Castellanos (born October 7th 1875 in La Barca). However, Porfirio's mother Refugia (born about 1860) was also a Castellanos! Unfortunately, I cannot find much more information about Refugia's family.

Guadalupe's parents were Guillermo Castellnos (born about 1849) and Rita Mendes (born about 1850). I was very fortunate to find a record of baptism for one of their other children Cenobio Castellanos (1 Nov 1865, La Barca) that includes both sets of grandparents. From my experience, this was a great find. I'm glad to have names, but have little else. This also suggests that these sets of grandparents were present in the region. Is this a correct assumption, that the records of baptism include people who were physically present? In any case, the grand parents (my GGGG grand parents) were Jose Antonio Castellanos / Dorotea Dias (Guillermo's parents) and Eduwiges Mendes / Dolores Rodrigues (Rita's parents). I'm making the guess that they were born around the 1830's. Incidentally, Eduwiges (Edubigen) and other variants are very, very strange to me. In the original baptismal record it is next to impossible to read. A transcriber on family search labs rendered in Eduwiges. Does anyone have any history behind such a name? Needless to say researching my family history in Mexico is quite the learning experience!

Regards,

Rudy

I am about ready to post my research on my Alvarado tree from San Luis Potosi and my Gonzalez tree from Zacatecas. I need guidance as to how to post on this site and what information I should provide (i.e sources). Thanks - Anita

Ah Stuart,

I like your analogies. Apparently, there are other distant cousins who are
also into genealogy with my family lines. At first I was impressed with the
"supposed" association of alleged royalty.....

But it takes one wise elder to put things in perspective. When asked her
why this was never shared with the rest of us: she responded rather strongly:
IT IS NOT WHO WE ARE TODAY.

Could she have been saying that this was not proven....could she have been
looking in the mirror and said there are other "truths", could she have harsh
memories of her own upbringing....no doubt....and some "truths" don't matter
in one's current reality.

Esperanza
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Hi,

I'm getting further and further behind on creating folders for and then
uploading NEW members genealogies to them.

Eventually the process will take 1 hour or less per week on average.

let me know if you can help.

I'll only consider people for this from those that are not currently
volunteering,

thanks,

joseph

ps: since I'm not fluent in Spanish I think it would be easier if you
were fluent in English.

====================

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http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Greetings: At one time I saw on the FHC site that copies of individual records could be ordered in lieu of ordering films. Now I cant locate this and someone had also commented that copies could be ordered. Is this still available? If so, where on the FHC site? Thanks - Anita

Hello Everyone!

I've just joined the group; having found it through a couple of search engines.

I am researching my wife's family. Her maternal grandmother, Maria Eutiquia Escobar (b. 1883), is from Aguascalientes. Her ancestors have roots in Aguascalientes (Aguascalientes), Zacatecas (Trancoso, Pinos), and Jalisco (Lagos de Moreno). My wife's father's family (Lara) is from Guanajuato, as is her materal grandfather (Eutiquia's second husband, Juan Navarro).

Names in the family are Escobar, de la Torre, Macias, Perez, Gonzales, Pedrosa, Castro, Arias, Gallegos, Salas, Garcia, Martinez, Ponze, Salazar, Montoya, Cordova, Escoto, Quesda, Dias, Alons, Sandoval, Lopes de Nava, and Flores. Some families have been traced to the early 1700's, others to early 1800s/late 1700s.

Families from Guanajuato are Lara, Arevalos, Pulido, Saldana, Navarro from San Francisco del Rincon; and Navarro (again), Serrano from Romita/Silao. These families go back to the early 1800s.

I have not yet posted a gedcom, but plan to do so soon.

Note: I know only enough Spanish to pick out essential info from baptismal and marriage records, and know when to ask my wife to translate (she's fluent)!

George (gpf13)
Pleasanton, CA

Hello Everyone!

I have just joined the group. I have been reading some of your research work and it is quite impressive. You are all so very helpful to everyone and look forward to communicating with all of you.

I am researching my mothers family (Suarez/Guiterrez) for now but eventually my father's family (Guillen).

The Suarez and Guiterrez families were from Sombrerete, Zacatecas. My grandfather Suarez was born around 1887 or 1889 not sure where. My grandmother Guiterrez was born 8/25/1900 in Sombrerete and they were married around 1915. My G grandfather was Felipe Suarez and married Petra Barajas. My G grandfather Guiterrez was Christino Guiterrez and married Wenselada Sanchez. My GG grandfather was Epefanio Guiterrez and married Maria DeJesus Villalobos. I have not been able to find much else thru other ancestry search methods. Eventually my mother's family migrated to Juarez, Mexico and then to El Paso, Texas.

I am hoping to start researching church records to find more detail or even family. Thank you so much, I appreciate any help you can provide or a direction you can point me to.

Yoli Matranga

Thursday, October 9, 2008

Dear Rudy,

The following are microfilms I have on permanent loan at the Family History Center:

281,017 Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1769-1801 La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico
281,018 Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1779-1801 La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico
281,023 Bautismos de hijos legítimos 1828-1836 La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico
281,070 Matrimonios 1681-1768 La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico
281,071 Matrimonios 1768-1814 La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico
281,073 Matrimonios 1836-1861 La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico

These might be too far back for you now. I also think the 1930 Census is in the Bonita Family History Center. The # is 1,507,533 and 1,507,534.

Keep in touch.

Sincerely,
Patricia Burton
San Diego, Calif.

--- On Thu, 10/9/08, Emilie Garcia wrote:

> From: Emilie Garcia
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction / Research Questions
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Thursday, October 9, 2008, 4:43 PM
> Rudy, I said St. Helwig, but it is really Hedwig (Eduviges).
>
> Emilie
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Emilie
> Garcia
> To:
> research@nuestrosranchos.org
>
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 4:24 PM
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction / Research
> Questions
>
>
> Welcome, Rudy,
>
> My father had among his ancestors people named Eduviges,
> or Edubiges, or Edubigen. St. Helwig was a Saint born in
> Bavaria in the 1100s. Read about her here:
> http://saints.sqpn.com/sainth03.htm>
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
> ----- Original Message -----
> From:
> roodee>
>
> To:
> research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org>
>
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2008 11:03 AM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Introduction / Research
> Questions
>
>
>
> Hello, I've just joined this group and am looking
> forward to interacting and exchanging information with all
> of you. I am researching Ruiz, Zavala, Castellanos, Dias,
> Mendes, Rodrigues and Quevedo. Currently I
> am researching the Castellanos and Zavala families
> that lived near or in La Barca. I've been fortunate to
> find some records of baptism for Porfirio Castellano Zavala
> (Sep 17 1875) my GG Grandfather. The records indicate that
> the baptism took place in San Juan Bosco so this suggests
> that they lived near that local parish. What is curious to
> me is the criss-crossing of surnames. For example, Porfirio
> Castellanos Zavala was married to Guadalupe Castellanos
> (born October 7th 1875 in La Barca). However, Porfirio's
> mother Refugia (born about 1860) was also a Castellanos!
> Unfortunately, I cannot find much more information about
> Refugia's family.
>
> Guadalupe's parents were Guillermo Castellnos (born
> about 1849) and Rita Mendes (born about 1850). I was very
> fortunate to find a record of baptism for one of their other
> children Cenobio Castellanos (1 Nov 1865, La Barca) that
> includes both sets of grandparents. From my experience, this
> was a great find. I'm glad to have names, but have
> little else. This also suggests that these sets of
> grandparents were present in the region. Is this a correct
> assumption, that the records of baptism include people who
> were physically present? In any case, the grand parents (my
> GGGG grand parents) were Jose Antonio Castellanos / Dorotea
> Dias (Guillermo's parents) and Eduwiges Mendes / Dolores
> Rodrigues (Rita's parents). I'm making the guess
> that they were born around the 1830's. Incidentally,
> Eduwiges (Edubigen) and other variants are very, very
> strange to me. In the original baptismal record it is next
> to impossible to read. A transcriber on family search labs
> rendered in Eduwiges. Does
> a
> ny
> one have any history behind such a name? Needless to
> say researching my family history in Mexico is quite the
> learning experience!
>
> Regards,
>
> Rudy
>
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I have updated my FAMILY TREE files which include BANUELOS, CARLOS, COVARRUBIAS , DE ESCOBEDO, DE LEON, DEL REAL, ENRIQUEZ, FLORES, QUESADA, SANDOVAL, and VILLANEDA.

Does anyone know of anywhere someone can access, Mexican Newspaper archives, without having to goto the Newspaper in Mexico?

thanks,
Jonathan Walker

Wow Welester,

He MUST have an amazing memory! I can barely remember whom I spoke with
yesterday!

Special saludos to him and to the gentleman in the photo, who made my trip
most memorable.

Thanks Welester for the update. I am so looking forward to what he will
share with you and hope that it can bring some new light for your own family.

Esperanza

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Hi, I'm researching the surnames Rivas, Valdez,Llanos, Salas, and Flores
from the Val Paraiso, Zacatecas area. I have been working on a family tree
and some research has led me to these names and a consistent occupation
here.

My GGGG Grand Mother on my Grandmother's father's side is the farthest I've
been able to trace. All the information I have is that the woman was of the
maiden name "Llanos". She and an unknown Valdez man had my GGG Grandfather
"MARGARITO LLANOS Y VALDEZ" in 1829. MARGARITO LLANOS Y VALDEZ married
MARIA ROSA RIVAS DE VALDEZ. For some reason, their child MARIA DEL REFUGIO
RIVAS has the maiden name Valdez.

It gets even weirder because my GG Grandfather, AURELIO RIVAS, was the first
cousin of MARIA ROSA RIVAS DE VALDEZ and they were married. AURELIO RIVAS
and MARIA DEL REFUGIO RIVAS(VALDEZ) had 6 children, of which my Great
Grandfather JESUS RIVAS was one.

I have a small history from this point, but, anything older than JESUS RIVAS
has yet to come up and be reliably concrete in relation. Does anyone
recognize these names?

Note: AURELIO RIVAS was an administrator for the Hacienda de San Jose about
10 miles from Val Paraiso, Zacatecas. Supposedly him and the family were
wealthy and owned part of Val Paraiso called "El Siglo", which had a post
office and stables and some shops and the like. I've had issues finding
this Hacienda though and suspect perhaps it may be San Jose de Llanetes or
San Jose de Llanos because of the name/areas of these seem related to the
Llanos ancestor.

Any help or details on this would be appreciated. I have a good amount of
dates, names, and some facts but did not feel it would be appropriate to
overwhelm readers with my first message. Thanks in advanced.

Gary, I was looking the information you submited and we have an Apodaca line that matches, we both descend from Jose Antonio APODACA. I´d like to be in contact with you and look forward.

Best regards.

Alessandro

Hello everybody:

I see many of you search families in Jalpa, Zac. but I don't find any match with your lastnames, however, as you have been searching in those records, I would like to ask you if you have seen VITELA in Jalpa? My grand-father was born there in 1866 - 68 and his name was Francisco Vitela, his parents were Gorgonio/Aurelio Vitela and Fermina/Emigdia Lopez (I found them with two different names both). It has been difficult to me to find more information. I have read several microfilms and nothing comes up. What I found in IGI were many Vitela from Miguel Auza, Zac. (Mezquital del Oro) but among the many names no-one matches my G-Grand-parents Gorgonio and Fermina. I haven´t been able to relate them. As I found many Vitelas there by the same years (1850-1870) y think they may be relatives, but I haven´t conffirm that.

If anyone have some ideas, sugestions or recomendations, hints or informations to share, please let me know because I feel a little lost and frustrated. Hope someone can help me.

Thanks in advance.

Best regards.

ALESSANDRO

Hi, Roberto:
Isn't it great to get reorganized? I am doing just that very same thing. I
got bogged down by too much information and not enough organization.

Good to hear you are back with us. My family is also from Los Altos, though
it is Martin del Campo, but I have heard some of them went by Martinez.

Best of luck,
Corrine Ardoin
Santa Maria, California

Hi Rick,

Hope all is well in Valle de Guadalupe. I just wanted to follow up and see if
you had an update on the video from the conference down there in August. Drop
me a line when you get a chance. I'm very interested in getting a copy.

Thanks,
Juan

------ Original Message ------
Received: 02:03 PM PDT, 09/30/2008
From: "Rick Rodriguez"
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Huizar Surname

Hello,

Are any of you related to CANDELARIO HUIZAR GARCIA DE LA CADENA (1883-1970)
from Jerez, Zacatecas

-----Mensaje original-----
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de eric edgar
Enviado el: Tuesday, September 30, 2008 12:37 PM
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Huizar Surname

Amelia,

I am researching my sister -in-laws family from this area. There are Carillo
and Gaeta surnames. You can find the information in the files area under
Edgar, Eric ( Tlatenango. etc)

Eric Edgar

On Mon, Sep 29, 2008 at 11:17 PM, roots wrote:

>
> Hi Angie, My name is Amelia Macias and my family surnames are Huizar,
> Gutierrez, Del Real, Carrillo. They were from Colotlan, Bonquilla,
> Cuculiten and Totatiche, Momax, El Zapote
>
> Some names: Victor Nunez Huizar1847, Bonquilla
> Ygnacio Carrillo Huizar1821, Bonquilla
> Jose Antonio Del Real 1819, Momax
> Maria Gaeta, 1846, Totatiche
>
> My brother Felipe Huizar Gutierrez still lives in Colotlan

Amelia, below are the available church and civil records. All you have to do
is request the films from any Family History Center in an LDS church. There
is a nominal charge for each film $6.00 per film. You do not have to be a
member of the LDS church and the equipment is free to use. Good Luck!!

Title Registros parroquiales, 1814-1944 Authors _Iglesia Católica.
Nuestro Señor de Jalpa (Jalpa, Zacatecas)_
(http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.as…
=Iglesia+Católica.+Nuestro+Señor+de+Jalpa+(Jalpa,+Zacatecas),+null) (Main
Author)
Note Location
Film Bautismos 1909-1919 VAULT INTL Film
1158671 Confirmaciones 1880-1900 FHL INTL Film
1158672 Item 1
Información matrimonial 1864-1875 FHL INTL Film
1511832 Items 3-4
Información matrimonial 1874-1897 VAULT INTL Film
1511824 Información matrimonial 1898-1904 VAULT INTL Film
1511825 Información matrimonial 1905-1923 VAULT INTL Film
1511833 Información matrimonial 1923-1924 FHL INTL Film
1506870 Item 1
Información matrimonial 1944 FHL INTL Film
1158673 Item 3
Matrimonios 1827-1838, 1913-1918 FHL INTL Film
1158672 Items 2-4
Matrimonios 1917-1920 FHL INTL Film
1158673 Items 1-2
Defunciones 1814-1917 FHL INTL Film
1158673 Items 4-5
For a printable version of this record click _here_
(http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/printing/titledetail…
1&last=100) then click your browser's Print button.
Title Registros civiles del municipio de Jalpa, 1884-1999 Authors _Jalpa
(Zacatecas). Registro Civil_
(http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.as…
tecas).+Registro+Civil,+null) (Main Author)
Note Location
Film Nacimientos 1884-1890 FHL INTL Film
773875 Nacimientos 1891-1895 VAULT INTL Film
773876 Nacimientos 1896-1898 VAULT INTL Film
773877 Nacimientos 1899-1902 VAULT INTL Film
773878 Nacimientos 1903-1905 VAULT INTL Film
773879 Nacimientos 1906-1909 VAULT INTL Film
773880 Nacimientos 1910-1912,1918-1920 VAULT INTL Film
773881 Matrimonios 1884-1888 VAULT INTL Film
773882 Matrimonios 1889-1894 VAULT INTL Film
773883 Matrimonios 1895-1899 VAULT INTL Film
773884 Matrimonios 1900-1905 VAULT INTL Film
773885 Matrimonios 1906-1909 VAULT INTL Film
773886 Matrimonios 1910-1912,1918-1920 VAULT INTL Film
773887 Defunciones 1884-1892 FHL INTL Film
773888 Defunciones 1893-1898 FHL INTL Film
773889 Defunciones 1899-1903 FHL INTL Film
773890 Defunciones 1904-1908 FHL INTL Film
773891 Defunciones 1909-1912,1918-1920 VAULT INTL Film
773892 Nacimientos 1921, 1929-1930 -- Matrimonios 1928, 1930-1951 --
Defunciones 1928-jul. 1935 VAULT INTL Film
2177094 Defunciones jul. 1935-1970 FHL INTL Film
2177095 Defunciones 1971-1995 VAULT INTL Film
2177096 Defunciones 1996-1999 -- Matrimonios 1946 VAULT INTL Film
2177108
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1&last=100) then click your browser's Print button.
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Oral History is welcome in the nuestrosranchos.org group. Many of the
valuable pieces of my family's genealogical information were verified as
a result on following leads gained from tidbits of stories or accounts
of family folklore. However I think we should all, as adults, keep a
tight check on our senses and realize that Oral History is something
that is subject to verification and should not be posted as fact. I do
not want any messages sent by a few people to discourage anyone from the
group from sharing their oral history as long as they understand that it
is, "Oral History."

La Historia Oral esta bienvenida en el grupo nuestrosranchos.org Muchos
de los pedazos valiosos de la información genealógica de mi familia
fueron verificados de resulto de primero estar ganados de cuentas del
folklore de familia. Sin embargo pienso que deberíamos todos, como
adultos, guardar un control apretado en nuestros sentidos y realizar que
la Historia Oral es algo que es sujeto a la verificación y no debería
ser fijado como el hecho. No quiero que ningún mensaje enviado por unas
personas desaliente a alguien del grupo de compartir su historia oral
mientras ellos entienden que es, "Historia Oral."

joseph

====================

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http://h2opodcast.blogspot.com/ (Blog for above)
http://PleaseListenToYourMom.com (Women's Peace Podcast)
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com (Latin American History Podcast)
http://nuestrosranchos.org (Jalisco, Zacatecas, and Aguascalientes
Genealogy)

Hi everyone,
I'm Roberto Martinez, until recently an inactive member of Nuestros Ranchos for a while. I'm proud to say that I've reorganized myself and have been busy with the family history research these last couple of months. After (more than) a little help from my NuestrosRanchos and months of hard work, I'm proud to announce that my files are updated. At least 95% of my work is focused in Los Altos de Jalisco.

Thanks,
Roberto

Amelia,

I sent you an e-mail last week. I can help you with all your names below. Call me.

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From: roots

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> Searching for my father's family in Jalpa. Surnames: Macias, Tostado, Luna,
> Alvarado and Marin. Thanks!