Araiza y Medina, del Castillo, de Gusman, Gomes

Estimados Miembros del Foro:

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Sergio, ¿haz logrado obtener mayor información? ¿tienes datos de quienes son los padres de María Antonia de Zambrano y María Antonia Martínez? Tengo entendido que una hija de Sebastián de Guzmán, Antonia Manuela Guzmán, casó el 11 de mayo de 1783 en Tuxcacuesco, Jalisco, con Juan Rafael Villa y Alcaraz. De esa línea desciendo yo. Saludos.

Yaomautzin Olvera

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Hola Yaomautzin,

Te tengo un poco m[as de informacion:

Sebastian de Guzman y Maria Antonia Martinez casaron el 21 de Nov de 1757. Tengo transcrita el acta, pero parece queno guarde el link. Tengo la imagen si la quieres, pero segun recuerdo los documentos de Amacueca estaban bien organizados.
"En veinte y un dias de el mes de Nove. de stecient. y cinq.ta. y siete añ en este Pueb.o de Amac.a se casaron, y velaron in facie Ecce Sebastian Gusman Español orig.o. de el Pueb.o de Autlan, y vezo. de el de Sayula, y María Antt.a Martinez orig.a y vez.a de este ___ de Amac.a Española; haviendo presedido las deligens. que ordena y manda el Sto. Concilio de Trento principalm.te en amonestarlos en tres días festivos inter missaru solemnia assi en esta Parrochia como en la de Sayula, y no resultando impedim.to pasé a celebrar dho. Matrim. con licencia de el Parrocho de dho. pretenso ____ Padrinos Ignacio Martinez, y María Gertrudis Contreras. assistie___ a el tiempo de celebración de testigos

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Hola Sergio, igual que tú ando apurado con los tiempos porque ya entré a clases y es el primer semestre que me toca ir al hospital. En fin, dí una checada rápida a los nuevos posts y quiero decirte que los padres de Juan de Araiza y Medina casado con María del Castillo son Juan de Araiza y Medina y María de Isla. Gracias a la dispensa que nos dio a conocer nuestro amigo Ramirez (no recuerdo su nombre pero ese el de usuario) y ésta: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18413-5066-5?cc=1874591&wc=M…
Ya se había publicado en un foro anterior y creo que ya la habías visto, en ella se menciona a Gertrudis de Araiza esposa de Pedro de Aguilar y Solórzano como hermana del Juan de Araiza casado con María del Castillo.

Sobre los Zambrano también estoy conectado, me parece que tu antepasada María Antonia de Zambrano (bau. 21 de Diciembre de 1902 en Sayula) es la hermana de mi antepasada Ignacia Francisca de Zambrano y Munguía nacida en 1704 y fallecida en 1744, que casó

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Hola Enrique y Yaomautzin,

Sobre los Zambrano tengo lo siguiente:
Efectivamente los padres de María Antonia de Zambrano fueron Francisco de Zambrano y Sebastiana de Mungía y Villela. Francisco fue bautizado el 23 de abril de 1673 en Sayula

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18576-42849-56?cc=1874591&wc…

Los padres de María Antonia fueron Nicolás de Zambrano y Margarita de Rivera sobre quienes no he encontrado más información. Desafortunadamente los matrimonios en Sayula parecen empezar en 1708, demasiado tarde para encontrar el matrimonio de Nicolás y Margarita.

Sebastiana de Munguía y Villela fue bautizada el 22 Sep 1677 en Tamazula de Gordiano. Fue hija de Christobal de Munguía y de Justina María Villela. Lo que no he encontrado es la imagen, porque la hoja de Septiembre de 1677 no están donde debe estar en el libro parroquial. Tendremos que buscar imagen por imagen. Por lo pronto yo pondría los padres de Sebastiana como probables, pero no seguros.

https:/

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Hola Enrique y colegas,

Aquí te va otra pieza del rompecabezas de nuestra ascendencia, esta sobre la línea de los Zambrano. En el índice de Capellanías de Katy Brecht Quesada, encontré este recibo de pago que hace referencia a Nicolás de Zambrano [Zayago], padre de Francisco de Zambrano y Rivera. Nos da dos puntos de información:
1) Parece ser que Nicolás era dueño de la hacienda de Amatitán en la jurisdicción de Sayula for 1689.
2) 2) Nicolás aún vivía cuando el documento fue escrito en 1689. Esto nos da una fecha muy posterior a la que teníamos para el curso de su vida. Habrá muerto pues después de 1689.

Aquí está el link: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18402-56537-97?cc=1874591&wc…

Muchos saludos,
Sergio

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Hola Sergio:

Muchas gracias por la información que proporcionaste de Nicolás de Zambrano, te felicito por tu arduo trabajo. Espero puedas ver un post que publiqué el día de ayer con muchos datos nuevos sobre los Araiza y Medina y los Guzmán.

Saludos,
Enrique Agraz

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Yo tengo dos ramas de Zambrano de Michoacan, de donde son tu familia?

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago "El Euforia".

2015-09-20 18:35 GMT+00:00 :

> Hola Sergio: Muchas gracias por la información que proporcionaste de
> Nicolás de Zambrano, te felicito por tu arduo trabajo. Espero puedas ver un
> post que publiqué el día de ayer con muchos datos nuevos sobre los Araiza y
> Medina y los Guzmán. Saludos, Enrique Agraz
>

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Hola Ayaomautzin,

Solamente tengo el link de la informacion, del matrimonio de Juan Rafael Villa con Antonia Manuela Guzman mas no la imagen. El archivo de Tuxcacuesco esta desorganizado, por lo que hay que buscar imagen por imagen. Me costo trabajao encontrar el matrimonio de Sebastian con Maria Antonia Martinez.

Pero te animo a que busques. Aunque esta desorganizado, creo que esta bastante completo.

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/JHKT-FCK

Sergio Salés

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Moises Sánchez López, Mis investigaciones han llegado hasta Juan de Araiza quien por cierto murió en 1665,desde luego que estoy dispuesto a compartir toda la información disponible, pues, aprovecho para opinar que ésta no es de ninguna manera patrimonio de nadie en especial y menos para ser guardada en algún baúl, sería éste un pensamiento muy pobre por no decir otra cosa!En mi persona llevo los genes de Araiza y pienso que eso no me hace ni menos ni más que nadie ya que de ningun modo soy responsable de eso, pero si lo soy de darlo a conocer para asi llegar al conocimiento de la Historia y sus satisfacciones.

Locating a "libro reservado" in baptismal records, Asuncion de Maria, Aguascalientes

In reviewing the digital copy of an indexed baptism, the priest indicated that the names of the parents and the grandparents paternos and maternos were located in the "libro reservado," Checking sever

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I'm wondering if it would be quicker to write a letter to the parish priest at Asuncion de Maria to inquire about the libro reservado. You can easily find the addesss on Google.

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Hi Renee,
I don't know what a libro reservado is, but, the record you're looking for is here:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11811-103746-23?cc=1502404…

Jose Pedro is listed as being born in Rancho de la Trinidad, hijo legitimo de D. Francisco Luebano y de Da. Cleofas Prieto. Abuelos Paternos, D. Mateo Luebano y de Da. Manuela Moreno. Abuelos Maternos, D. Santiago Prieto y de Da. Gertrudis Castaneda. Padrinos, D. Jose Maria Perez y de Da. Petronila Esparza.

You mention a discrepancy with the surname of Da. Gertrudis Castaneda, but, do not mention the discrepancy. I'm guessing that she also uses the surname Lopez, which, is the last name of her mother, Michaela Lopez.

Christopher de Cuellar

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Thank you Christopher. That is the record I sought, it appears to have been entered twice, once with the family and once without - hard to believe I read right over that entry on the proceeding page. The discrepancy was exactly as you state, Da. Gertrudis Castaneda was identified as Da. Gertrudis Lopez. I'm hoping that you are related to this family, since you knew that Lopez was the name of her mother MIcaela, yes?
Thank you for your help.

Renée Capels

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Thank you Christopher. That is the record I sought, it appears to have been entered twice, once with the family and once without - hard to believe I read right over that entry on the proceeding page. The discrepancy was exactly as you state, Da. Gertrudis Castaneda was identified as Da. Gertrudis Lopez. I'm hoping that you are related to this family, since you knew that Lopez was the name of her mother MIcaela, yes?
Thank you for your help.

Renée Capels

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Hi Renee,

No, I'm not related to this family. I just looked at the marriage of D. Santiago Prieto and Da. Gertrudis Castaneda, so it was just a guess that she was going to use her mother's last name of Lopez, although, she could've also used her grandmother's name of Esparza too. Actually, I just looked and there is a Gertrudis Esparza married to a Santiago Prieto, so, that's probably also the same person as Gertrudis Castaneda.

Chris

    

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I'm wondering if it would be quicker to write a letter to the parish priest at Asuncion de Maria to inquire about the libro reservado. You can easily find the addesss on Google.

Escrituras/Tierras 1691 - 1735

I was at the LDS Center tonight and finished reviewing the remainder of the microfilm number 0169054.

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Can you give me some reference to the Santiago. This is what i have so far,http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/23069-
itzcoatzin@gmail.com
Phone 5622483339 I am in California USA.

En 1800, la Hacienda de la Encarnación tenía 33 sitios de Ganado Mayor, uno de Menor y dos Caballerías. Linda esta Hacienda con la Hacienda de Palomas y de Tayahua, la primera de Don José de la Borda y la segunda de Don Ventura de Arteaga, tiene al poniente la Hacienda del Salto de los herederos de Don Juan Martínez, la Hacienda del Huacasco de la Obra Pía de la Quemada y con los naturales de Colotlán, al sur, con la Hacienda de Santiago de la Laguna y con la de Juana Catic de Ordóñez del Bachiller José Barragán y socios y por el norte con el sitio de Ciénega de Morones que fue de Don José Ibarrola del ojo negro de los herederos de Juan de Zúñiga Fajardo y de los fuertes. Beltrán y Juan Tarasco, que se dicen de Doña María Prudencia del Río.

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Here is the list of Escrituras/Tierras with microfilm numbers. I finished reviewing the first one microfilm number 169054:

https://familysearch.org/search/catalog/130728?availability=Family%20Hi…

I may be interested in looking at the next two 169055 (1729 - 1778) and 169056 (1700 - 1715). But I want to look at 169056 first to see if I can find my GGGGGGG Grandfather Antonio Madera that passed away sometime before 1709 of Minillas, Mezquitic, Jalisco

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Thank you for that link. I'm a descendant of Francisco Martín Gallardo, the
son of Francisco Martín Gallardo and Teresa de Rodas. married to Catalina
Manrique de Guzmán on 5 November 1645 in Irapuato through their son don
José Martín Gallardo married to Teresa Camacho Riquelme. They had a
daughter Catalina Guzmán Gallardo born in Jalostotitlán that married Miguel
Moreno de Ortega from Lagos de Moreno for which they received a dispensa 26
December 1697. The genealogy of the Martín-Gallardo family is in *Retoños
de España en La Nueva Galicia* Tomo VI volumen 1.

Teresa de Rodas was the daughter of Benito Martín from Galicia, Spain and
founder of Irapuato and Teresa de Rodas, from from Trujillo, Cáceres,
Extremadura. Spain, daughter of Francisco Solano Calderón and Francisca
Jiménez Altamirano.

Francisco Martín Gallardo and Teresa de Rodas were also the parents of
Nicolás Gallardo de Rodas who married Juana Rincón de Ortega on 2 February
1650 in Irapuato , Guanajuato. Juana Rincón de

Transportation of "Giant Indio" Antonio Cano 1792 on ship Santa Agueda

There was a "Giant Indio" by the name of Antonio Cano that was transported on the ship "Santa Agueda" in 1792 and he was described as "Antonio Cano que tiene una extraordinaria y gigantesca estatura"

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Jose Leon de Pena=Maria Juana Soto

Seeking informaron about my maternal 6th grandparents. Jose Leon de Pena was born abt. 1709; and Juana Maria Soto abt. 1701. Both deceased bef. 08 Nov 176. Thank you.

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To Find Don Fernando Campa y Cos "Pasajero" document in archives

I am trying to find when Don Fernando De La Campa y Cos traveled by ship to Nuevo Espana (Mexico).

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Search techniques:

In the Pars website I would try searching for:

"Pasajero" gives me a list of individual names of passengers that traveled on the Pasajero de Indias (Americas).

"Pasajeros" with an "s" gives me lists of ships that include passengers lists. These are nice to look at because it starts out with name of the ship and the Capitan. Then it has a list of names of people on the ship and sometimes with a brief description of each person where they are going.

Now since I want to look for Don Fernando De La Campa y Cos, who is from Burgos.

I had the idea of doing a search for:

"Pasajeros Burgos" So it gives me lists of people that were from Burgos that traveled to the Americas.

For example I searched for "pasajero burgos" and got list of people who were from Burgos. I filtered by years. This one is a document of 86 pages and it is people that went to Zacatecas in the year 1682. Here is the first page where it says they were to travel on the "Nuestra Senora De

Juan Alonso de los Inojos & Isabel Ramirez

Can anyone tell me whether the names of the parents of Isabel Ramirez appears in the marriage record of Juan Alonso de los Inojos, son of Pedro Alonso de los Inojos and Ana Domingues, with Isabel Rami

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Austin, thank you. I spent all night looking for it and was about to give
up.

Danny C. Alonso

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Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

Does anyone in the Forum know where the baptism of Isabel Ramirez is? She's
the daughter of Capt. Luis Lopez Ramirez and Catalina Rubio. It's in Family
Search that she was baptized on July 2nd 1628. But it doesn't look like
it's there. Has anyone found it yet? It should be around this page:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18576-10996-15?cc=1874591&wc…

But it doesn't look like it's there.

Name Ysabel Lopez Rubio
Gender Female
Christening Date 02 Jul 1628
Christening Place SANTA MARIA DE LOS
LAGOS,LAGOS DE MORENO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Luis Lopez
Mother's Name Catalina Rubio

Danny C. Alonso

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Here's a clue, Juan Alonso de los Hinojos and Isabel Ramirez had a
son named Juan Alonso de los Hinojos baptized 25 Jul 1664 in Aguascalientes.
Prior to this Juan there was another, probably died young, only this Juan
is specifically baptized as Juan Ramirez baptized 17 May 1655 in Aguascalientes.
They gave this Juan Ramirez although his father was also Juan maybe this is
a clue. Have you tried informacion matrimonial?
Daniel

Does anyone know where to find Bautimos (1665 - 1678) Santo Domingo Church of Zacatecas Ciudad?

I am talking to a Cronista of Zacatecas (historian) who is asking me if I know where bautismo records of the years 1665 - 1678 of the Santo Domingo Church of Ciudad Zacatecas, Mexico can be accessed?

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I looked in the Family History Catalog for Zacatecas church records, and this is what the film notes for Sagrario state:

Notes:

Microfilme de manuscritos en el archivo de la parroquia.

La parroquia Sagrario antes se denominaba Santo Domingo.

Parish registers of baptisms, confirmations, marriages, and deaths from Sagrario Parish (formerly known as Santo Domingo), Zacatecas, Zacatecas, Mexico.

Includes a book of marriages performed in 1824-1829 in the dependent parish church of San Nicolás de Bernárdez.

This seems to be what you are looking for.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

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A quick look in the internet shows that this temple was founded on 1746, if there are some records of this specific area in that time, they are likely mix with the metropolitan church "sagrario", its a matter of manually checking those, which in turn happen to be the only ones going back to the 1600's in Zacatecas city.

Joseph Francisco Tejada Sandobal from Jerez

Hi,

I have been researching the Tejada line in Jerez and I found this Francisco Tejada, son of Juan Antonio Tejada and María Ascensión Sandobal.

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Katy I have this.

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baptism 16 Oct 1757 in Jerez, Zac
Joseph Francisco Espanol
parents: Juan Antonio Texada and Maria Sandoval
godparents: Bernardo Puente and Maria Michaela
source: 439845 film
page 453 Familysearch online
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marriage 7 Sept 1783 in Jerez, Zac
Josef Francisco Texada Mestiso from San Thomas de Buenavista
parents: Antonio Texada deceased and Maria Sandoval
with Maria Ylaria Martinez Espanola from San Thomas de Buenavista
parents: Julian Sereno Martinez and Felisiana Liverata Dias
source: 0440060 Jerez marriage
page 357 Family search online
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thanks erlinda. luckily i found francisco's marriage record today. so yes the one who married ylaria martinez is the same one who married francisca saldivar.

also did you see my post on this thread about luis lopez?
i think his dad luciano maybe another son of casiano hipolito lopez and marcela alva
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mexico&id=I48…

also i think casiano and marcela weren't from jerez/tepetongo. besides the fact luis was born in villa del refugio, my mom remembers being told that while felix was born in jerez, some of his family came from somewhere else. not sure where though exactly. he's kind of a mystery in that sense. it doesn't help that he died when my great grandma maria victoria was young.

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yeah i'm thinking it's quite possible they are the same person. but of course there's the possibility of 2 francisco's who happen to be brothers. for example one of my 4th great grandpas, celedonio, had two sons with the name francisco who made it to adulthood and had children of their own.

on another note: cosme's brother martin is my 4th great grandfather also

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3 of Martins children married into my lines. Juliana married to Romulo Luna, Antonia married to Miguel Carrillo and Julian married to Maria Refugio Carrillo
Linda in Olympia, Wa.

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i happen to be descend from martin through his daughter antonia. antonia is the mother of my double great grandma jeronima carrillo.

also linda you made a mistake on who the parents of victor garcia mentioned on this link
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mexico&id=I37…

this marriage record in the link below states his parents are pioquinto garcia & nicolasa espinosa
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15068-24142-87?cc=1804458&wc…

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thank you for the heads up but looks like he had two different fathers listed on the two records. Which one do you think is correct?
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marriage information recorded 23 Jan 1795 in Jerez, Zac
Victor Garcia Espanol single from la Gavia age 25
parents: Joaquin Garcia deceased and Nicolasa Espinosa
with Maria Petra Gomes Espanola single from Nino Jesus age 25
parents Gregorio Gomes living and Maria Josefa Garai deceased
source: 439900 film
page 29 Familysearch online
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15065-19623-87?cc=1804458&wc…
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church marriage 6 Feb 1796 in Jerez, Zac
Jph Victor Garcia Espanol vecino
parents: Juan Pioquinto Garcia deceased and Nicolas Espinosa
with Maria Petra Gomes Espanola from Nino Jesus
parents: Gregorio Gomes living and Maria Josefa Garai deceased
source; 440060 film
page 431 Familysearch online
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15068-24142-87?cc=1804458&wc…
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Katy I'm going with this record for the baptism of Victor Garcia. This would also explain the record for her child that says her surname is Morillo.
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baptism 7 Sept 1773 in Jerez, Zac
Jose Bictor Espanol born in la Gabia 30 days old
parents: Juachin Garcia and Nicolasa Morillo
godparents: Jose de Espinosa and Juana de Espinosa
source: 439847 film
page 105 Familysearch online
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so i guess she went by 2 different surnames. on anoother note i'm trying to find francisco tejada and francisca saldivar's marriage record starting with looking through Información matrimonial 1793-1795.

also i think luciano lopez maybe a son of casiano lopez and marcela alvarez
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mexico&id=I49…
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=mexico&id=I03…

due to this baptism record (i'm pretty sure the luis lopez in the link below is a triple greatgrandfather of mines)
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15094-3467-35?cc=1804458&wc=…

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I have all 3 Francisco's in my records as separate people but Jose could be Antonio.
My file is on Rootsweb.com. My file is called Mexico and you can go to the index to find what you are looking for. Cosme Tejada is cousin by marriage and his daughter Mariana also married a family member.
Linda

Titles in Marriage Record

I came across my 2X great grandfather's marriage record, Anastacio Lopez and Urcina Arrieta. They were married in Jalpa, Zacatecas on September 4, 1836.

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I guess the C. may stand for Caballero, since "Damas y caballeros" is the equivalent of "Mesdames et messieurs" or "Ladies and gentlemen".
VN

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Maria: actually I think is a very interesting detail, since is not that common (or a least not on the records I've seen) Its always good to find little clues here and there that at the end help us understand no just who our ancestors were but what environment and conditions they lived in.

Vicotoriano: that's interesting, but now that I found the record again it actually says "Cno." as you suggested before it looks like "Ciudadano." in this case the women are called "Madama" or just "Ma."

Just for the fun of it here it is the link to my record, on the right panel, second to first entry "Jose Ma. Bato", in those two pages there is no other entry with those titles, there are more "here and there" within that book though.

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I also came across a record with exactly the same titles, and also just for some specific records, at first glance I though it was the writer style but like this record as soon as I checked the continuous entries I realized it was for some specific people. I do suspect that this is kind of the equivalent of "Don" and "Doña" from the Spanish days in Mexico, probably used soon after the Independence but something that never got its way trough.

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Thank you for your comments. After I made my first post, I realized that Ursina (or Urcina) Arrieta was the daughter of Felipe Arrieta, the first "presidente municipal" of Jalpa, Zacatecas proceeding independence. I'm not trying to make a mountain out of a mole hill LOL, but this could be why the distinction.

Maria Elena Lopez Trilevsky

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After Independence in 1821 (or maybe until 1824 when Mexico became a Republic) C. meant ciudadano or citizen, since they were no longer subjects of a King, but it usually appears in all the records, not just in one. I had never seen the use of Madame in these records.
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Fernando, Antonio and Pedro (De La Campa y Cos)

Don Fernando De La Campa y Cos was he Conde of Hacienda San Mateo, Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico.

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In 1675:

Antonio De La Campa y Cos was "Teniente de Capitan De Las Minas de Sombrerete"

Pedro De La Campa Y Cos was "Teniente De Capitan General De Las Costas De Nueva Galicia"

Supposedly the are brothers of "Fernando de La Campa Y Cos" who was born in 1676 in Burgos, Espana.

And son of Domingo De La Campa and Juliana Cos.

Fernando De La Campa Y Cos' brothers must have been a lot older than him.

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Here in this link there is a reference that Antonio De La Campa y Cos was Governor of Nueva Galicia:

"1677
Don Antonio de la Campa y Cos, Gobernador de la Nueva Galicia, manda a la Villa de Santiago del Saltillo que las tierras de los guachichiles recaigan en los tlaxcaltecas, a la vez dispone que los religiosos no cobren derechos de fábrica y rotura."

http://www.plandeguadalupe.mx/efemerides-coahuilenses/

Here in the PARS website is the defunto record of "Juan Antonio Gutiérrez Terán"
He was the Alcalde of Sombrerete, Zacatecas, Mexico in 1693 when he recommended Don Fernando De La Campa Y Cos.

The reference number of the defunto is: CONTRATACION,5707,N.1,R.7

Just a note that when you go to the pars website and enter that reference number to go to the description page and click on it to go to the second description page before going to the document?

On that second description page to the left is a menu and submenu. clicking on the menu "Bienes de Defuntos" brings lists of names

Faded Record

Hello everyone,

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I got a friend to load it the record up to Photoshop. I have the info thanks.

What did Rey Carlos De La Gracias De Dios have to do with Sombrerete in 1684?

On image 44 of this document:

Reference No. GUADALAJARA,44,N.24

Pars website:

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

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Hello Madera,

No, the King did not visit Sobrerete, because no Spanish Monarch ever visited the Americas prior to their independence in the 19th century. In the 1680s, the King of Spain was Charles II (and last of the Hapsburg monarchs of Spain) But it was his prerogative to give and confirm political/judicial appointments. It was also customary before the French Revolution for European rulers to use their name, speak of themselves in the first person plural, and assert that they ruled by the Grace of God.

The document won't open for me, but usually all such documents if written at Court would start something like this:
"We, Charles, by the Grace of God, King of Castile, Aragon, Count of Barcelona, Emperor of the West Indies, etc. do confirm D. ____ in the office of ____."

In Spanish is would be:
"Nos, Carlos, de la Gracia de Dios, Rey de Castilla, Aragón, Conde de Barcelona, Emperador de la Indias Occidentals, etc. confirmamos a D. _______ en el oficio de ______."

Hope that

genealogy errors-Confused

I am sorry for the confusion
Juan Manuel casillas and Juana Maria Valdivia are the parents of jose thomas casillas

jose antonio salgado and Ma de san Joseph de la paz are the parents of maria gertrudis Salgado

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Mariano Gonzalez Leal states in his book that Jose Maria Casillas and Lugarda Villalpando are the pair that was married in Jalostotitlan, Jalisco. The source he gave was my great uncle, my tio Rito Romo Franco. My Tio Rito Romo Franco kept meticulous records. When I was a child, through my early twenties, I often went on family visits with my Tio Rito where he would explain how the person we were visiting was related to us. Even though my Tio Rito Romo Franco took great notes and Mariano says he used this information to identify the parents of Francisco Casillas as the Jose Maria Casillas and Lugarda Villalpando married in Jalostotitlan, some of the people that my uncle identified as being closely related to me through my father's side are not related closely if these are truly the parents of Francisco Casillas Villapando. Or so I thought.
My Tio Rito Romo Franco identified these people as close relatives but I had believed this to be true only if Francisco Casillas Vallalpandos

Was Texas/Los Californias Part of La Nueva Galicia?

I was reading this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nueva_Galicia

" Nueva Galicia's territory became the present-day states of Aguascalientes, Colima, Jalisco, Nayarit and Zacatecas"

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I don't think they were part of the Kingdom of Nueva Galicia, but rather separate provinces. They just were under the religious authority of the Bishop of Guadalajara since they did not have yet their own bishops.
I'm currently checking some Diócesis de Guadalajara microfilms from the 1700's where they mention "la cuidad de Monterrey, del Nuevo Reino de León, de este obispado", so, it is a city in a different Kingdom under the authority of the Bishop of Guadalajara. Nuevo León didn´t have its own bishop until 1776 when the Linares Diocese was established.
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Need Help On Old Newspapers (Colonial Times)

La Gaceta was one of the newspapers that was in circulation since 1722 in Mexico and I had gone to a website of the UNAM where you just enter what you want to look for in basic search.

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Lista De Pasajeros (Ships)

I didn't realize this but I did a search in the Pars website for "Lista De Pasajeros" and a lot comes up.

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

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Don Fernando De La Campa y Cos was born in 1676 in Burgos, Spain and was the Conde of Hacienda San Mateo in Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico.

He traveled from Burgos, Spain to Mexico. So I may try to review the "Lista De Pasajeros" in the age he may have traveled to Nueva Espana (Mexico) and see if I can find his name on the list somewhere. What was the name of the ship and who was the Capitan of the ship.

This person traveled to Zacatecas in 1726:

http://oi59.tinypic.com/5a9op.jpg
http://oi58.tinypic.com/2luz4lv.jpg

Reference Number for Pars website: CONTRATACION,5468,N.2,R.144

And on pg 183

Physical Description of Juan De Rebolledo 1717

I was reading the pasajero de indias (Cadiz, Espana) a la Nueva Espana of Juan De Rebolledo year 1717 and here is a physical description of him:

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Here is another Juan Olivan Rebolledo year 1712 Pasajero de Indias

Reference code to enter into Pars website:

CONTRATACION,5466,N.2,R.30

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

Now I am getting confused when I filtered my search on Juan Rebolledo for years 1702 - 1719:

http://oi59.tinypic.com/smrkuo.jpg

Seems like Juan Olivan Rebolledo traveled overseas in 1712 but had an esclavo name Juan Marcial. They traveld on a navio "Almiranta" I think it is a class type of a ship (pg 11):

http://oi61.tinypic.com/fzcdwn.jpg

Which looks like the one that says "equivalent Almirante"

http://www.todoababor.es/vida_barcos/organizacion.htm

But on pg 6 of that document it says "Galeon Almirante"

http://oi62.tinypic.com/104g86v.jpg

Mentions several times through out the document that Juan Olivan Rebolledo was "Oydor de La Audencia en Guadalajara de La Nuevo Espana"

http://oi60.tinypic.com/2ns6ukw.jpg

Also looks like he had a salary of 2 mil ducados de plata por his role as Oydor

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On page 8, gives another description about Juan De Rebolledo in the Pasajero de Indias.

But where I put a blue arrow it mentions that he was on the Flotilla of the "Jefe De Escuadra Don Antonio Serrano."

http://oi61.tinypic.com/zkiphy.jpg

Here is a painting of Teneniente General De La Real Armada Antonio Serrano (1649 - 1733)

http://cvc.cervantes.es/actcult/museo_naval/sala3/personajes/personajes…

De Santiago, Zacatecas,Jalisco

Hello guys this is my family from my mother side.

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I just started doing research on Gertrudis De Santihiago Dias de Leon (K2MP-MPL) this is Id number for www.familysearch.org. She is the daughter of Joseph de Santhiago and Juliana Dias de Leon (abt 1660). They are from Pinos, but there are many in Guanajuato. Gertrudis marries Juan Francisco Morales (padres no conocidos).

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can you join yor tree with my so i can see how we are related.LJPW-1D6 my
granpa

My dna is in 23andme.com have you tested?

Jose Luis Zambrano De Santiago "El Euforia".

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 2:45 AM, wrote:

> I just started doing research on Gertrudis De Santihiago Dias de Leon
> (K2MP-MPL) this is Id number for www.familysearch.org. She is the
> daughter of
> Joseph de Santhiago and Juliana Dias de Leon (abt 1660). They are from
> Pinos,
> but there are many in Guanajuato. Gertrudis marries Juan Francisco Morales
> (padres no conocidos).
>

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I will work on it this afternoon and see if I can join them with a common ancestor.

I did get the dna but from ancestry.com

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I am interested in which records you were able to find the De Santiagos in Villanueva and Tabasco? I have a Catarina De Santiago daughter of Felipe De Santiago and Maria de la Candelaria Albares in Villanueva in 1803. The films that were available online did not show anything for bautismos though. I managed to find this through an indexed marriage record on family search. Any of those names ring a bell to you?

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Welcome aboard.. nice job on your file and thank you for sharing. My family was from Jerez, Zac and lots of people from Colotlan lived there. I did not find any shared family but do appreciate you sharing your research.
Linda Castanon-Long
Olympia, Wa.

FW: Retonos de Espana en Nueva Galicia

For those that are interested in purchasing this set of books please contact Ignacio Narro. If you want more information about Mr.

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If this is legit, I would be quite interested. But does Ignacio Narro have permission from the author or the publisher to reprint? I understand that if the books is in public domain, he can reprint it, but I don't think this is the case. I would like to read the feedback from Josie Trevino.

Steve in NC

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This doesn't sound legitimate. Only Mariano Gonzalez Leal holds the rights to publish his books. Please don't provide his person your crediit card data until you are sure it is legit.
R. A. Ricci

links to my indexes in progress

https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0BwHOEIz09mFeRmpWcmxLYmx3LVE&usp…

to anyone here who wants to see what indexes i'm working on but haven't finished yet

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