Diego Romo de Vivar ???
Buscando en pares.mcu.es encontré un registro que tiene coincidencias de nombres y fechas, con relacion a Diego Romo de Vivar el que caso con Maria Rangel
Buscando en pares.mcu.es encontré un registro que tiene coincidencias de nombres y fechas, con relacion a Diego Romo de Vivar el que caso con Maria Rangel
Am I wrong...?? Usually the early 1500's records are IGI and not always correct but "word of mouth" information.
Sandra Gómez Mendoza
San Antonio, TX
Hi Bill, Jaime, and Sofia,
I still believe Temino and Trevino are the same surname. Diego and his family were listed in the cesus in Guadaljara as Temino. Listed that way in the "Fundadores de Nueva Galicia, Guadalajara Tomo I" by Garamendia Leal who did extractions from the archives. I also believe that Temino can also be used a location as in Lenor de Temino, Lenor from Temino.
--
Esther A. Herold
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> Hi Esther, Sofia and Bill, i have followed with interest the exchange about Diego Temino de Velasco and relatives, particularly since mi maternal line (Nuevo Leon and Coahuila) descends directly from Diego Treviño and Beatriz Quintanilla. Based on the evidence presented so far, I am inclined to think that Diego Treviño (perhaps the same as the Diego Velazco de Treviño who travelled in 1538 with his mother Francisca Alcocer and brothers Alonso de Velazco and Baltazar Velazco -all listed as sons of Velazco
Esther, Sofía, Jaime, George et al
Last Friday I visited the Dallas Public Library in order to check out the book "Fundadores de Nueva Galicia, Guadalajara, Tomo I" by Guillermo Garmendia Leal. While looking for the Treviño connection, I found another book entitled "Origin of the Surnames Garza and Treviño in Nuevo León", by Tomás Mendirichaga Cueva. What they have is a translation the English language made by Edna G. Brown (Corpus Christi, Texas, 1989). I did not find this to be a good translation and will start looking for the original Spanish version. Notwithstanding, I discovered in that book that church records were indeed kept in Mexico City prior to 1575. Mr. Mendirichaga mentions the following three books:
1) Primer Libro de Bautismos de Españoles (Nov. 1536 - Oct. 1547)
2) Segundo Libro de Bautismos de Españoles (1552 - 1669)
3) Tercer Libro de Bautismos de Españoles (Ene. 1570 - Nov. 1589)
Some of the baptisms from the first book (Nov 1536 - Oct 1547) are as
Esther, Sofía, Jaime, George et al
I missed the important line "hija del Alcayde de Temyño" when copying the
information about Pedro Pacheco Rodríguez from the "Diccionario
Autobiografico de Conquistadores y Pobladores de Nueva España" by Francisco
de Icaza. The correct quotation is as follows:
"554.- Pedro PACHO, muerto, dize:
En efecto, quez vezino desta ciudad y natural de la villa de Fregenal, e
hijo legítimo de Pedro Pacho y de Beatriz rrodríguez, vezinos que fueron de
Seuilla, y que ha treze años que pasó a esta Nueua Spaña, y a la contina
después acá ha rresidido en ella, e tenydo armas e cauallos, e que ha seys
años que se casó con Doña Ana de Velasco de Temyño, hija del Alcayde de
Temyño, e que su magestad fue seruido mandar que a la persona que con ella
se casase, se le hiziese merced en qualquier aprouechamyento de la tierra, y
tiene tres hijas que la mayor ha çinco años, y que siruió en la pacificaçión
de Jalisco con Vuestra Señoría Illustrísima, desde el
I have been researching my family roots in Villa Hidalgo and Teocaltiche,
Jalisco. I noticed in both places that there is an area called Tepusco. As a
matter of fact, my family, VIDAURE, lived for several generations on Rancho
Tepusco in Paso de Sotos.
Anyway, my question is this: does Tepusco mean anything? I just found it be
an unusual word and, for it to be in two different towns, even though they
are close together, it just makes me wonder.
Does anyone know what it means?
Veronica Vidaure Rahorn
Gilbert, AZ
Actually there is only on Tepusco, its between both Teocaltiche and Villa Hidalgo,
Tepusco and Villa Hidalgo use to be part of Teocaltiche but when the 1770s hit
it seperated itself.
Bill,
Whap page was that? Thanks,
Esther
--
Esther A. Herold
-------------- Original message from "Bill Figueroa" : --------------
> Esther, Sofía, Jaime, George et al
>
> I missed the important line "hija del Alcayde de Temyño" when copying the
> information about Pedro Pacheco Rodríguez from the "Diccionario
> Autobiografico de Conquistadores y Pobladores de Nueva España" by Francisco
> de Icaza. The correct quotation is as follows:
>
> "554.- Pedro PACHO, muerto, dize:
>
> En efecto, quez vezino desta ciudad y natural de la villa de Fregenal, e
> hijo legítimo de Pedro Pacho y de Beatriz rrodríguez, vezinos que fueron de
> Seuilla, y que ha treze años que pasó a esta Nueua Spaña, y a la contina
> después acá ha rresidido en ella, e tenydo armas e cauallos, e que ha seys
> años que se casó con Doña Ana de Velasco de Temyño, hija del Alcayde de
> Temyño, e que su magestad fue seruido mandar que a la persona que con ella
> se casase, se le hiziese merced en
Esther,
The page that has the autobiography of Pedro Pacheco Rodriguez aka Pedro
Pacho in the "Diccionario Autobiografico de Conquistadores y Pobladores de
Nueva España" by Francisco de Icaza is PG. 30. The autobiographies are
numbered sequentially. The SEQUENCE NUMBER for Pedro Pacho is 554.
Bill Figueroa
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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] DIEGO TEMINO DE VELASCO
Bill,
What page was that? Thanks,
Esther
--
Esther A. Herold
Thank you Bill!
I am a little side tracked with some work so I have to wait at least a week before I start up my search again.
Sofia
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Hi Bill,
It would be great if you could see the actual documents or their microfilms where you think they are abbreviating "Pacheco" as"Pacho". Many times when abbreviating a word or name, they would wrtie the last letter or the last few letters of the abbreviated form as what we call "superscipt" on Micorsoft's World. I've seen this many times when abbreviating "Don" as "Dn", "Doña" as "Dna", "Villarreal" as "Villarrl", "Maria" as "Ma" etc. although not always, as when abbreviating "Joseph" as "Jph" .
Usually these superscript are ahown as plain text in printed transcriptions, especially older ones.
I think if you find an original document showing "Pacho" with the fnal "o" as superscript, you can bet it is an abbreviation for something else, probably "Pacheco" as you think.
Regards,
VN
I have no doubt the Temiño de Velasco, are related to this family. It seems all Velascos are related to the Dukes. Since Diego was the mayor, he might have dropeed this lineage name for
the place where he was at Temiño, his house name would have been Velasco. I still dont fint this how is he related to Bernardino? a Child or grandchild. -Daniel
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*ALCOCER*, Doña Francisca de
Madre de Baltasar Temiño de Bañuelos, Alonso de Velasco, Diego de Temiño
y Doña Francisca de Velasco, mujer de Francisco Cornejo. Doña Francisca
de Alcocer y su marido, Diego Temiño de Velasco, eran vecinos de
_Sevilla_. Pasó, el 13 de junio de 1538, con sus hijos varones, Alonso,
Diego y Baltasar, desde _España_ a _Cartagena_ a reunirse con su esposo
e hijas. Difunta en 1589 (Palomino y Cañedo, 1972: 75, 220 y 232).
alvaradj@comcast.net wrote:
> Hi Esther, Sofia and Bill,
> i have followed with interest the exchange about Diego Temino de Velasco and relatives, particularly since mi maternal line (Nuevo Leon and Coahuila) descends directly from Diego Treviño and Beatriz Quintanilla. Based on the evidence presented so far, I am inclined to think that Diego Treviño (perhaps the same as the Diego Velazco de Treviño who travelled in 1538 with his mother Francisca Alcocer and brothers Alonso de Velazco and Baltazar Velazco -all listed as sons of Velazco
DOES ANYONE KNOW A JUAN FRANCISCO VELASCO AND MARIA ANTONIA BEDOLLA FROM ZACATECAS AND AGUASCALIENTES ABOUT 1760? THEIR CHILDREN WERE JUAN, ANDRE, MARIA JOSEFA, MARIA ROSALIA,AND RAFAEL.
Alguien sabe cuando van a poner los records de Jalisco el censo como Ojuelos De Jalsico?
Gracias
Anyone have info on Andres Maria Lopez de Nava who married Maria Gertrudis Romo de vivar
ca. 1750 in Tabasco or Aguascalientes?
Hello everyone, my name is Adrian and I've been a part of this group for over a month now, but just recently had part of my family tree uploaded so I would like to introduce myself to everyone.
I have uploaded my Rojas family line to the site for anyone interested.
Here is the link, http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18752.
I have been helped by other relatives as to some basic information of the Rojas family, such as members of this family made some of the old lamp posts in Jerez. Also, this family line seems to also include Tepetongo but I think originally they came from Jerez in the early part of the 19th century. Aside from that, I haven't found much else.
Since the Rojas name is a bit more prevelent, and it seems that my ancestors did have many siblings, maybe someone out there will find a relation.
Adrian--
I have a 3rd ggrandmother, Juana Romero, who was born about 1834 in Villanueva, according to her marriage record. Her parents were Cornelio Romero and Florencia Montalvo. I tried looking for Juana's baptism record in Villanueva (hoping to find grandparents), with no success so far, although I need to complete a more thorough review.
Yes, I believe you are right in that the last name of Montalvo is uncommon in the area; I am stuck on that line. Perhaps we are distantly related through Florencia. I should try to spend some more time on this line, but I think the records do not go far enough back, and I have not yet determined where any older records would be located for Villanueva.
Let's keep in touch in case we encounter any new Montalvos in Villanueva.
Rosalinda Ruiz
Many Villanueva gamilies arrived from Aguascalientes, Calvillo, Huanusco, Jalpa, Juchipila and Tabasco areaso you might want to try there.
Regards,Daniel
I had some Montalvos come from Tlatanenango Sanchez Roman, Zac which is nearby.
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I think I have come across a Florencia Montalvo, but perhaps I am mistaken. One day I just decided to type in the surname Montalvo in the family search website under the state of Zacatecas and just look through records one by one to see exactly how many Montalvo's there could be.
Anyways, yes lets keep in touch. With such a rare name perhaps it can make it easier to trace a common ancestry.
tiene alguien informacion acerca de los ancestros de Agustin Flores de la Torre, quien caso con Catalina de VArgas Castañeda. Tuvieron a su descendencia en Teul de Gonzalez ORtega, Zac.
Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia and I am starting my work on my family in
Jalostotitlan, not sure how to go about this and will appreciate any and all help and advice. my GG grandfather Jose Juan Olivar Married Maria Crescencia Padilla 1858 in SanJuan De Los Lagos . I have tried to get info from the LDS sight and find there is not a lot of info there and happened along your sight and hope for guidance in locating family tree in Mexico. I also don't know much about G grandfather Tomas
Hello everyone, I came across Daniel Mendez Del Camino, thanks to Nuestros Ranchos. He gave me lot's of insights of my ancestors. We are related by Caminos' on my father's and mother's maternal side (they connect with Manuel (del) Camino, son of Mariano I del Camino 1853-1945 sources: Daniel del Camino and es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Juan_del_Camino). Out of Nuestros Ranchos I know more about our Camino's side of the family thanks to Daniel.
I would like to know where I can search more information on my great grandfather Romulo Renteria Garcia's 1896-1984(my father's Paternal side) ancestors.
Thanks in advance,
Vrenteria
Cecilia,
This is what I could piece together about your family:
JOSE JUAN OLIVAR married CRESCENCIA PADILLA on 13 Oct 1858 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.
They had the following children:
MARIA ENGRACIA OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 17 Aug 1859 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.
EULOGIO OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 17 Mar 1861 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.
URSULA OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 26 Oct 1862 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.
PATRICIA OLIVARES PADILLA was christened on 22 Mar 1865 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.
REYEZ DE JESUS OLIVAREZ PADILLA was christened on 11 Jan 1867 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.
POLICARPIO OLIVAS PADILLA was christened on 30 Jan 1871 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.
AURELIO OLIVARES PADILLA was christened on 31 Jul 1873 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico.
JOSE JESUS OLIVAR was born about 1867 in Coconacas,San Juan De Los Lagos.
thank you so much> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com> Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2008 17:08:19 -0700> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Olivar Family> > > Cecilia,> > This is what I could piece together about your family:> > JOSE JUAN OLIVAR married CRESCENCIA PADILLA on 13 Oct 1858 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > They had the following children:> > MARIA ENGRACIA OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 17 Aug 1859 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > EULOGIO OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 17 Mar 1861 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > URSULA OLIVAR PADILLA was christened on 26 Oct 1862 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > PATRICIA OLIVARES PADILLA was christened on 22 Mar 1865 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > REYEZ DE JESUS OLIVAREZ PADILLA was christened on 11 Jan 1867 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico. > > POLICARPIO OLIVAS PADILLA was christened on 30 Jan 1871 in San Juan De Los Lagos, Ja
lisco
Ruth Olivar Millan
Hello Cecilia,
You were asking about your family in Jalostatitlan, Jose Juan Olivar
and Maria Crescencia Padilla married in San Juan de los Logos in 1858.
I've been doing research on my Padilla line and just happen to come
across an entry on FamilySearch.com for:
Maria Engracia Olivar Padilla christened 8-17-1859
to: Jose Juan Olivar and Maria Crescencia in San Juan de los Lagos.
I don't know if that helps, but I will keep an eye out for this
couple. And, welcome to the group.
-Angelina-
>
> Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia and I am starting
> my work on my family in Jalostotitlan, not sure how to go about this
> and will appreciate any and all help and advice. my GG grandfather
> Jose Juan Olivar Married Maria Crescencia Padilla 1858 in SanJuan De
> Los Lagos . I have tried to get info from the LDS sight and find
> there is not a lot of info there and happened along your sight and hope
> for guidance in locating family tree in Mexico. I
Hi Cecilia,
Out of curiosity I searched and found the following. They seem to be baptism records of the couple whose name you mentioned. Welcome to Ranchos and good luck.
MARIA ENGRACIA OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening 17 AUG 1859
San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: JUAN OLIVAR,
Mother: CRESENCIA PADILLA
Batch C603404, Dates: 1857 - 1861, Film #0220663
EULOGIO OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening: 17 MAR 1861
San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: JUAN DE OLIVAR
Mother: CRESCENCIA PADILLA
Batch No.: C603404, Dates: 1857 - 1861, Film # 0220663
URSULA OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening: 26 OCT 1862
San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico
Father: JUAN OLIVAR
Mother: CRESCENCIA PADILLA
Batch No.: C603405, Dates: 1861 - 1863, Film #0220664
David Delgado, Albany, CA
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>
>
>Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia
Thank you so much for the help, you all are really fast. thanks again> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:16:28 -0700> From: dpdelgado@jps.net> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member Intro> > Hi Cecilia,> > Out of curiosity I searched and found the following. They seem to be baptism records of the couple whose name you mentioned. Welcome to Ranchos and good luck.> > MARIA ENGRACIA OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening 17 AUG 1859 > San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico> Father: JUAN OLIVAR, > Mother: CRESENCIA PADILLA> Batch C603404, Dates: 1857 - 1861, Film #0220663> > EULOGIO OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening: 17 MAR 1861 > San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico> Father: JUAN DE OLIVAR> Mother: CRESCENCIA PADILLA> Batch No.: C603404, Dates: 1857 - 1861, Film # 0220663> > URSULA OLIVAR PADILLA, Christening: 26 OCT 1862 > San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico> Father: JUAN OLIVAR> Mother: CRESCENCIA PADILLA> Batch No.: C603405, Dates: 1861 - 1863, Film #0220
664> >
I am Jose E Aguilar and I am researching my wife's Zacatecas family lines of Maldonado and Cruz. Rafael Maldonado married Toribia Cruz in Villa de Cos Zacatecas in 1855. Toribia was cristened on 3 may 1842 also at Villa de Cos Zac. Toribia Cruz is buried in Encinal Cemetery La Salle County Tx.
Does anyone have any Maldonados and Cruz from Zacatecas in your files.
Appreciated all your responses.
Jose
Hi, my name is Rita. Thank you for allowing me to be a member of your
group.
For about two years,I have been researching my Grandfather's ancestors in
and around Colotlan.
I too have reached my g x grandfather, Plelipe Marquez de los Olibos married
to Francisca Xaviera Sanchez in early 1700.
Other g x grandfathers include, Diego de Santiago married to Bernarda de
Casas
and Bartholome de Cardenas married to Catharina Morillo, also in the early
1700s.
Included in my research are other g x grandparents, Juan Agustin Marquez
married to Juana de Abalos, in early 1700.
Other names in my research are Saldana, Gamboa, Solis, Ramos, Medina,
Vargas, Rivera, Tostado, Guizar,
Briseno, Dimaz, de Aro and Sandoval, just to name a few. Hello to all
my cousins out there.
Once again, thank you,
Lady Ramos
Hi Rita,
Your Medina where are they from?, maybe I can help you
On Wed, Aug 26, 2009 at 3:20 PM, Rita Navarro wrote:
> Hi, my name is Rita. Thank you for allowing me to be a member of your
> group.
> For about two years,I have been researching my Grandfather's ancestors in
> and around Colotlan.
> I too have reached my g x grandfather, Plelipe Marquez de los Olibos
> married
> to Francisca Xaviera Sanchez in early 1700.
> Other g x grandfathers include, Diego de Santiago married to Bernarda de
> Casas
> and Bartholome de Cardenas married to Catharina Morillo, also in the early
> 1700s.
> Included in my research are other g x grandparents, Juan Agustin Marquez
> married to Juana de Abalos, in early 1700.
> Other names in my research are Saldana, Gamboa, Solis, Ramos, Medina,
> Vargas, Rivera, Tostado, Guizar,
> Briseno, Dimaz, de Aro and Sandoval, just to name a few. Hello to
> all
> my cousins out there.
>
> Once again, thank you,
> Lady Ramos
Hi Rita,
Welcome to the group. I am also searching in and around Colotlan.
I am not sure if you saw the emails from a couple of weeks ago but there was a discussion about Phelipe Marques de los Olivos and Francisca Xaviera Sanchez. They are also my ancestors and if you would like to compare information take a look at my files.
Also, I have done some research on Bartholome de Cardenas and Catharina Morillo. My ancestor Bartholome de Cardenas married to Barbara Gutierres lived during the same time period as your Bartholome. They both were listed as parents on marriage records in Colotlan during the same time period. So I thought they might be one in the same. With one of the women being first wife and the other second wife. I never was able to prove or disprove but I held onto the information just in case... Let me know if you are interested in what I have...
Another surname I am researching is Huizar/Huisar. I have also seen it spelled Guizar/Guisar. What are the names you
Rita Navarro
Hi Angie,
Yes,I saw the article on Phelipe Marques de los Olibos.
Thanks for allowing me to compare information in your files.
In my records I have a Luis Joseph Marquez de los Olibos who married Juana Maria de Aro Sandoval(daughter of Thomas de Aro and Petrona de Sandoval)on May 22, 1754. The records show that Luis Joseph Marquez de los Olibos was the son of Joseph Antonio Marquez de los Olibos and Juana Francisca Gamboa.
source: Matrimonial Records of Tlaltenango,Zac. LDS film # 0443969
Your records show a Pasqual Venacio Marques, son of Joseph Antonio Marquez and Juana Francisca Gamboa. I haven't been able to find him. How did you find him?
I also think that Bartholome de Cardenas was married twice. In my searching I have found a Getrudis de Cardenas, daughter of Bartholo de Cardenas, no mother. Getrudis married Miguel Orosco on 08 Feb 1740 in Colotlan. Getrudis and Miguel were the godparents of baptism on 13 March 1757 in Totatiche, Jalisco for Maria
Hi Rita,
I found Pasqual Venacio Marques by accident... I was looking for all Marquez and Romero surnames in the film I was viewing. He came up since he is married to a Romero. His name didn't come up when I was searching for Marquez since the name was inputed in as Pasqual Venancio MARQZ. Pasqual's spouse is Margarita ROMERO. They were married on 2 MAY 1773 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. [BATCH NUMBER: M604652; DATES: 1752-1790; SOURCE CALL NO.: 0443782] I descend from Feliciano Acencio MARQUES and his wife Albina Victoria ROMERO. They were married on 7 APR 1766 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico. [Same Batch Number]
Here is my Bartholome DE CARDENAS information. He was married to Barbara GUTIERRES. They had the following children:
1. Catharina DE CARDENAS who was married to Juan Mathias DE GAETA on 19 Jan 1722 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
2. Maria Antonia DE CARDENAS who was married to Nicolas GODINA, son of Nicolas GODINA and Maria Ana DE LAMAS, on
Angie,
Thanks, I found Pasqual Venacio MARQZ. I descend from Feliciano's
brother, Luis Joseph MARQUEZ DE LOS OLIBOS and his wife, Juana Maria DE ARO.
They were married on 22 May 1754, in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
Zacatecas, Mexico. (Source: Film # 0443969; Dates: 1754-1769; Batch:
M607141 )
Here is my information on Bartholome DE CARDENAS. He was married to
Catharina MORILLO. They had the following children:
1. Diego DE CARDENAS who married Maria Magdalena DE LA O, daughter of Onofre
DE LA O and Josepha PERES, on 01 Mar 1729 in San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco,
Mexico.
2. Feliciana Victoria DE CARDENAS who married Juan Domingo Ramos, son of
Diego DE SANTIAGO and Bernarda DE CASAS, on 15 Feb 1733 in San Luis,
Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico.
Note: According to the marriage document of Feliciana and Juan Domingo in
1733, Bartholome was deceased.
(Source: Film # 0443671; Dates: 1718-1743; Batch: M604651 )
I descend from Feliciana DE CARDENAS and Juan Domingo RAMOS.
Note about
Welcome to the group, it looks like you may come from the Padilla Dávila and Olivares-Mendoza
spanish families! I will try o help you the best. Daniel
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Cecilia;
Welcome to the group! I am glad that you took the initiative to pose your inquiry right out there. That is what we are all here for, to help each other on our quest to find out ancestors.
As far as your GG grandparents, they are certainly indexed in the LDS databases, as the Altos area has very good records and they have almost all been indexed. I found your GG grandparents marriage on IGI:
CRESCENCIA PADILLA
Marriages:
Spouse: JUAN OLIVAR
Marriage: 13 OCT 1858
San Juan De Los Lagos, Jalisco, Mexico
Source Information:
Batch No.: M603414 Film No. 0220711
Unfortunately the IGI extract is not very complete and is missing the parents names so that will require that you head down to your nearest Family History Center and order the film so you can look up the record and see who their parents were. You can check our film database and see if another member has the film on indefinite loan and might be willing to do the look up and transcription for you.
Good luck
Ruth Olivar Millan
Hola Cecilia,
Bienvenida, si en algo te puedo ayudar en la region de Jalos, San Miguel,
Valle, Tepa, etc me avisas.
Saludos,
Ricardo Rodriguez
Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco
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Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia and I am starting my
work on my family in
Jalostotitlan, not sure how to go about this and will appreciate any and all
help and advice. my GG grandfather Jose Juan Olivar Married Maria
Crescencia Padilla 1858 in SanJuan De Los Lagos . I have tried to get info
from the LDS sight and find there is not a lot of info there and happened
along your sight and hope for guidance in locating family tree in Mexico. I
also don't know much about G grandfather Tomas
Villalobos and his wife
So good to hear from you Ricardo, I really don't know where to start my family search in Jalos. We may still have family living in Jalos, but I am not sure. I have been trying to get information from my family and realitives, but know real help yet. The family name is Olivar
Thank you so much
Cecilia
> From: rickrod.com@gmail.com> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org> Date: Tue, 19 Aug 2008 20:35:41 -0500> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member Intro> > Hola Cecilia,> > Bienvenida, si en algo te puedo ayudar en la region de Jalos, San Miguel,> Valle, Tepa, etc me avisas.> > Saludos,> > Ricardo Rodriguez> Valle de Guadalupe, Jalisco> > > > -----Mensaje original-----> De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de tiffany> Enviado el: Tuesday, August 19, 2008 8:09 PM> Para: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org> Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member Intro> > > Hello , to everyone in the group my name is Cecilia and I am
Ruth Olivar Millan ...I am new to this site. I have been working on my family tree for over 30 years....and my have enough information to answer some of your questions. I have used many resources and can help you cross references including
Church records, vital statistics, ship records Portuguese Angola , land grants, government information during the Spanish inquisition etc. WIth your help maybe I can get it done for my son, and my grand child before I die.
Joseana Padilla and Narcisa Alvarez are my great great grand parents
J. Juan Olivar and Cresencia Padilla are my greatgrand parents
I have some information up to now and passed relatives On both side of our tree.
contact me so me can cross reference.
Ruth Olivar Millan
Hi Ruth, I am glad you have joined our group! I am asking where were you able to find Portuguese ship records of pasage etc. I have some portuguese on my father's side of the family. Also land grants, Ive been looking like crazy but without results. Many Thanks,
Daniel Méndez del Camino
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I have a picture of Mariaengracia Olivar (First child of Cresencia Padilla and Juan Olivar San Juan de los lagos Jalisco Oldest sister of Jose Ana Olivar)with the older children of Jose Ana Olivar and Cresenciana Gutierrez. Around 1923 Nebraska before the family was deported back to Mexico in trains 1930 at the Great Depression. I just can't uploaded.
Does any one know how to add pictures to this site?
Thanks,
Ruth Olivar Millan
Ruth Olivar Millan
Ricardo , who were your parents? Who were your grand parents?
I have information.....that you may be interested in.
Ruth Olivar
Daughter of J. Luciano Olivar
Grand daughter of Jose Ana Olivar
Great Grand child of J.Juan Olivar and Cresencia Padilla
Great Great Grand Child of Joseana Padilla and Narcissa Alvarez (albares)
I can go further back.
Ruth Olivar
Hi, I'm researching Herrera Escobedo. These surnames come from an Hacienda Jaula de Arriba, Zacatecas.
Hi, I'm researching Herrera Escobedo. These surnames come from an Hacienda Jaula de Arriba, Zacatecas.
I want to thank all on this site who led me to http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/ and for the IGI files on the site.
Any help with more information would be appreciated.
I uploaded an ancestor report on my grandmother, Maria Luisa Echeverria. It's mostly in Guadalajara and surrounding areas.
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/17223
Surnames include:
Would appreciate any information (birth certificate, marriage or death certificates) on Jose Cornelio Calvillo, born abt. 1750-60 in Aguascalientes, Mx.
In talking to our older relatives, we heard comments that there were Land Grants given to families from Spain (hundreds of years ago) for land in Mexico, including Jalisco.
I have just uploaded the most recent genealogy file for my Reynoso lineage. It can be found under Valencia, Esther (Reynoso).
Hola Grupo,
I'm sure this is going to reveal my beginners status, but here it goes. This is the first time that I've found a film listed on the Nuestros Ranchos website that has an ancestor of mi
Hi Alice
If you don't have an answer to your Petra Maria Sepulbeda 11/3/1735, then send me your request. Rich and I will be in the FHL in SLC this coming August. We would be happy to look it up for you.
When we go to the FHL in SLC we ONLY do complete lookups and we don't do any 'hunting' If anyone else has a brick wall AND you know the film number, date, names of the parties, then send to us a request off-line and we will try to get them for you. Which means we will print them off in SLC and then come home and scan them and send them off to you. I know we might be opening up a can of worms here, but we will try to do as many as we can. Put in your subject line:
FHL SLC lookup
Then list
Film Number - Bapt/Marriage - Date - all Names known
We will be in SLC for a wedding anniversary on the 19th of August and plan on staying to visit the library. Let us know if any other members will be there about that time and we will meet up with you.
Please keep your request off
Hi--
If there is someone in the group who has the film on reserve, the name would be listed under the "Borrowers" column in the films area. I don't see anyone listed for the film you mentioned, so it looks like no one has it as an indefinite film. Good luck!
Rosalinda
We have been accompanying you on this search. Let us know what you find.
Thanks Rick
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From: Alice Blake
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:35:52
To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] NR films
Hola Grupo,
I'm sure this is going to reveal my beginners status, but here it goes. This is the first time that I've found a film listed on the Nuestros Ranchos website that has an ancestor of mine. This particular film could solve my which of two Marcos Sepulbeda's is mine mystery. It's an Atotonilco el Alto, Jalisco film #222109, batch C603001. My ancestor listed on the film is Petra Maria Sepulbeda baptised 11/03/1735. Parents listed are Marcos Sepulbeda and Ma Margarita Franco. If the grandparents are listed, that would solve my long-lasting mystery.
The question is: does the listing of these films on the NR site mean that a member has these films and can do a look-up? Thank you so much for your help in this matter. Alice
Querido Grupo,
Thank you so much for your encouraging words and well wishes... What about the films listed on the NR website? Thanks again, Alice
From: mygenes2000@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] NR films
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 3:17 AM
We have been accompanying you on this search. Let us know what you find.
Thanks Rick
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-----Original Message-----
From: Alice Blake
Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 17:35:52
To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] NR films
Hola Grupo,
I'm sure this is going to reveal my beginners status, but here it goes. This is the first time that I've found a film listed on the Nuestros Ranchos website that has an ancestor of mine. This particular film could solve my which of two Marcos Sepulbeda's is mine mystery. It's an Atotonilco el Alto, Jalisco film #222109, batch C603001. My ancestor listed on the film is Petra Maria Sepulbeda baptised 11/03/1735. Parents listed are Marcos
Some of the members have films checked out to them on a permanent basis.
You need to contact the particular member who has the film that has your
data of interest, ask him if he (she) can help you by looking up the names
of the people you are researching.
John Gonzalez
Wildomar, CA.
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Good Morning Group,
It's my understanding now about the NR films, that if the film I'm interested in has no name listed under "borrower", then opening it on the NR site is the same as accessing it through IGI--no more or less info to be had. Thanks again for your help, and it's back to the FHC for me! Alice
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] NR films
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Friday, June 4, 2010, 5:02 AM
To: Alice Blake
Some of the members have films checked out to them on a permanent basis. You need to contact the particular member who has the film that has your data of interest, ask him if he (she) can help you by looking up the names of the people you are researching.
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I've been here 3 years; every day at NuestrosRanchos is a first day for me whenever I find an ancestor.
Enjoy the adventure, Primo!
Jose Carlos de Leon
I updated the pdf. files for some of my ancestral lines down to and including my parents Elias de Leon and Maria Carlos
How do I go Updating my file for Nuestros Ranchos?
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Updated pdf. files
Sent: Jun 3, 2010 8:51 PM
I updated the pdf. files for some of my ancestral lines down to and including my parents Elias de Leon and Maria Carlos
go to files to members genealogies to Gomez, Paul
(http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18210)
click on "edit" and then you can delete your old files or add new ones.
You can find all this information in the NR user's guide:
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/userguide
joseph
ps: if you make a change send a message to research@nuestrosranchos.org
and include the URL (http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/18210) of
your folder with just a brief bit of info on the changes you've made.
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paul.gomez@verizon.net wrote:
> How do I go Updating my file for Nuestros
Does anyone know what this means:
ORIGINARIA DE (illegible)
Thats the place where she was born, originally from....
Daniel
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: maria.cortes@trin.net
> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:40:35 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
>
>
> Does anyone know what this means:
>
>
>
> ORIGINARIA DE (illegible)
Originaria De.. Means This Person is From.. (Is From)
Hello I Have Been Looking For Some More Info for Some more of my Family...
But Yet Again I Need Help finding more about the following People...
I have relatives from Zacatecas with the last name Haro. If you want to check out my tree to see if any of the names are familiar to you, it is under the name Aurelia Haro Robles in the member geneologies.
Thanks you I will.. is the last name De Haro or HAro?or is it the Same thing...?
Yup the same whenever theres a DE it just means OF,its more common with many place names in the colonial era but can be found out today. Order the record!
Daniel Mendez de Camino
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> From: antonio2214@verizon.net
> Date: Wed, 2 Jun 2010 15:21:48 -0700
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Haro
>
> Thanks you I will.. is the last name De Haro or HAro?or is it the Same thing...?
>
You will find the name listed in records as Haro, De Haro and Aro. I also have them in my records from Jerez. I have them on Rootsweb.com and my file name is Mexico. You can check the index for Haro. I just discovered a film I forgot to enter and will update when it's completed, it's baptisms for Jerez 1875 (0439856)
When I enter records I use a uniform spelling regardless of what the record says but then I put the record so you can see how they originally put it. In this case they are all Haro. My biggest problem has been Morillo/Murillo since every other record seems to be one or the other, very frustrating!
good luck in your search,
Linda in Marietta
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Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 6:21:48 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Haro
Thanks you I will.. is the last name De Haro or HAro?or is it the Same thing...?
I know exactly how you feel! I was stuck for a long time searching my Santelices. I had searched the logical misspellings: Santelizes, Santelises, and de Santelices. It took the help of Eduardo Seoane who found him under Santeliz ! After that, I got extremely creative and found some listed Sante Elises. All of these spelling variations have been found in Mexican IGI entries. I have traced them directly to Santander, Spain where the spelling has been consistantly Santelices, as I originally thought. So I'm not sure what to make of it. Alice
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From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Haro
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, June 3, 2010, 2:02 PM
You will find the name listed in records as Haro, De Haro and Aro. I also have them in my records from Jerez. I have them on Rootsweb.com and my file name is Mexico. You can check the index for Haro. I just discovered a film I forgot to enter
Hi.. I Have Been Looking all Over...
Family Search gives me Only Her Marriage Record
has Her Married to Juan Villegas in 16 of Jan 1873 in Chimaltitan, Jalisco
I have Been Looking in their daughter's Records and nothing...
so kinda stuck.. : (
Thank you... yeah I am very confused on those sides... i wanted to find more on my Villegas,Payares,Airada and those listed,
I found two kids for Petronila and Carlos:
Maria Concepcion baptized 24 aug 1902Domingo 26 dec 1899 both in Chimaltitan
Petronila and Carlos were married 21 jan 1899 in ChimaltitanCarlos parents, were Quirino and Bonifacia Lujan.I think you might have an error Margarita and Isabel married in Chimaltitan.26 april 1900. Margarito's parents were Narciso Rivera and Juliana BugarinI found several kids for Juan Villegas and Maria Haro not sure if you have there info?Juan and Maria married 16 jan 1873 in Chimaltitan, you might want to order th record.
Daniel
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Sorry it reads like this
MARÍA CISNEROS DE DIEZ Y OCHO AÑOS DE EDAD – ORIGINARIA DE (ilegible) Y VECINA DE SAN JUAN DE DIOS DURANGO -
María Cisneros de diez y ocho años de edad, soltera originaria del Suchil y vecina de este en El Carrisal, hija legitima de José María Cisneros y María del Refugio Ortis...
Is this the part of the record?
-----Mensaje original-----
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de maria.cortes@trin.net
Enviado el: jueves, 03 de junio de 2010 12:45 p.m.
Para: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
Sorry it reads like this
MARÍA CISNEROS DE DIEZ Y OCHO AÑOS DE EDAD – ORIGINARIA DE (ilegible) Y VECINA DE SAN JUAN DE DIOS DURANGO -
And again my question was what what does (Originaria de (ilegible) means.
Yes yes thank you so much.
Maria Cortes (HRIS Administrator)
Trinity Industries
Maria.Cortes@trin.net
Phone 214-589-8036
Fax 214-589-8810
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From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Rick Rodriguez
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:28 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
María Cisneros de diez y ocho años de edad, soltera originaria del Suchil y vecina de este en El Carrisal, hija legitima de José María Cisneros y María del Refugio Ortis...
Is this the part of the record?
-----Mensaje original-----
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de maria.cortes@trin.net
Enviado el: jueves, 03 de junio de 2010 12:45 p.m.
Para: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
Sorry it reads like this
MARÍA CISNEROS DE DIEZ Y OCHO AÑOS DE EDAD –
De nada prima... just about an hour ago I was working on a person from El Suchil that moved to Los Altos.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Maria Cortes
Enviado el: jueves, 03 de junio de 2010 02:31 p.m.
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
Yes yes thank you so much.
Maria Cortes (HRIS Administrator)
Trinity Industries
Maria.Cortes@trin.net
Phone 214-589-8036
Fax 214-589-8810
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From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Rick Rodriguez
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:28 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
María Cisneros de diez y ocho años de edad, soltera originaria del Suchil y vecina de este en El Carrisal, hija legitima de José María Cisneros y María del Refugio Ortis...
Is this the
Thanks Ricardo.
Maria Cortes (HRIS Administrator)
Trinity Industries
Maria.Cortes@trin.net
Phone 214-589-8036
Fax 214-589-8810
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From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Rick Rodriguez
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 2010 2:37 PM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
De nada prima... just about an hour ago I was working on a person from El Suchil that moved to Los Altos.
-----Mensaje original-----
De: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] En nombre de Maria Cortes
Enviado el: jueves, 03 de junio de 2010 02:31 p.m.
Para: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Asunto: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
Yes yes thank you so much.
Maria Cortes (HRIS Administrator)
Trinity Industries
Maria.Cortes@trin.net
Phone 214-589-8036
Fax 214-589-8810
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From: research-bounces@lists
You can send me the record, Ill try reading it.
Daniel
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: maria.cortes@trin.net
> Date: Thu, 3 Jun 2010 10:45:16 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
>
> Sorry it reads like this
>
>
>
> MARÍA CISNEROS DE DIEZ Y OCHO AÑOS DE EDAD – ORIGINARIA DE (ilegible) Y VECINA DE SAN JUAN DE DIOS DURANGO -
>
>
> And again my question was what what does (Originaria de (ilegible) means.
> We have tried further research on Juan Tejeda on the Films on the website - still struggling trying to confirm which Juan Tejeda is the father of Toribio Tejeda (grandfather of my Dad).
Ken,
Have you looked at the actual films or are you taking your information from the FHC website.
The films will show the same thing that's on the actual record.
Alicia
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From: KEN TEJEDA
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wed, June 2, 2010 8:47:11 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Tejda in Teocaltiche
> We have tried further research on Juan Tejeda on the Films on the website - still struggling trying to confirm which Juan Tejeda is the father of Toribio Tejeda (grandfather of my Dad). Juan Tejeda was married to Nicolasa Enrriques in 1863. There are two Juan Tejedas born in the early to mid-1840's. One of our relatives think he was born in 1827 in Calera (?), and his parents were Narzio Tejeda and Brigida Munos who were married in 1842. This does not make any sense as he would be born before their marriage (15 years before) . There also is a Faustino Munos Tejeda, male, who was born in 1843, and his parents are Narzizo Tejeda and
My twin sister and I first began researching our family history four years ago. We have found a lot through Ancestry.com and FamilySearch.org.
Compañeros
Tendrá alguien infrmación acerca de los padres de Yrineo del Muro y de María Candelaria Félix de Arellano? casados aproximadamente en 1770 en Jeréz, Zacatecas.
SALUDOS.
larsenfamilytree:
here's a tip on your Robles: try looking under Plasencia, Placsencia, Placensia and other variations of this name.
One of my male Robles (from Moyahua, close to Mezquital) was listed under both names. Still a mystery to me, but perhaps they wanted to carry on a name from one of the Matrilineal lines.
Good luck.
Thank you! I will keep that in mind!
Solo para avisarles que aprovechando las fiestas navideñas, quiero seguir con mi investigacion sobre las familias Romo y Gutierrez, ya que esta es la unica epoca en que le puedo decicar tiempo debido
Te felicito Paco y creo que en esto reside la diferencia entre el genealogista "de corazon" y el genealogista "por negocio". Yo tambien he aprendido con el tiempo que entre mas compartes mas recibes, tambien entiendo a aquellas personas que habiendole invertido tanto de su tiempo como de su dinero quieran vender la informacion obtenida, no las juzgo solo digo que me da gusto leer de alguien como tu que esta dispuesto a compartir lo que sabe.
Los Romo que yo tengo apenas los estoy organizando, yo tambien me estoy moviendo de Plano,TX a Salt Lake City, UT asi que lo que se te ofrezca desde aca cuenta conmigo incondicionalmente.
Te mando un afectuoso saludo y que Dios te bendiga por aquellas frias tierras.
Sinceramente,
Arturo Cuellar Gonzalez
Gracias Arturo! Cualquier cosa que te pueda compartir solo hazmelo saber,
seguimos en contacto. Ojala tengamos Ascendencia en comun para compartir
datos!
Saludos y seguimos en contacto!
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From:
Sent: Thursday, May 27, 2010 8:46 PM
To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Romo y Gutierrez
> Te felicito Paco y creo que en esto reside la diferencia entre el
> genealogista "de corazon" y el genealogista "por negocio". Yo tambien he
> aprendido con el tiempo que entre mas compartes mas recibes, tambien
> entiendo a aquellas personas que habiendole invertido tanto de su tiempo
> como de su dinero quieran vender la informacion obtenida, no las juzgo
> solo digo que me da gusto leer de alguien como tu que esta dispuesto a
> compartir lo que sabe.
> Los Romo que yo tengo apenas los estoy organizando, yo tambien me estoy
> moviendo de Plano,TX a Salt Lake City, UT asi que lo que se te ofrezca
> desde aca cuenta conmigo incondicionalmente.
>
Hola Paco
Me llamo Humberto Pro V. y soy nuevo en este grupo, estoy investigando mi apellido Pro y actualmente estoy trabajando los datos de mi bisabuelo Hilario Pro (1836) casado con Ricarda Romo (1839) en Zacatecas, Zac. y al ver tus comentarios sobre el apellido Romo me gustaria preguntarte si te has topado con el apellido Pro, de antemano gracias.
Humberto
Hola Humberto, a ver si te puedo ayudar, que es to ancestro PRo mas antiguo que tienes, sabes los padres deHilario Pro? He visto este apellido como DEL PRO o DE PRO. No se si creerlo pero segun PRO es italiano. Si hay bastanteitaliano en Mejico pero mas investigacion es necesario. Ojala que esto te ayuda en una manera u otra.
-Daniel Camino
> To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: frio@prodigy.net.mx
> Date: Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:46:24 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] SOBRE LOS PRO ROMO
>
> Hola Paco
> Me llamo Humberto Pro V. y soy nuevo en este grupo, estoy investigando mi apellido Pro y actualmente estoy trabajando los datos de mi bisabuelo Hilario Pro (1836) casado con Ricarda Romo (1839) en Zacatecas, Zac. y al ver tus comentarios sobre el apellido Romo me gustaria preguntarte si te has topado con el apellido Pro, de antemano gracias.
> Humberto
Yo encontre este apellido cuando estaba investigando el arbol de un primo. La linea de mi primo salio que su familia no se llamaba pro pero provedano o a veces lo encontre como Pobedano.
Puede ser otra familia de los Pro
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] SOBRE LOS PRO ROMO
Sent: Jan 25, 2010 7:46 PM
Hola Paco
Me llamo Humberto Pro V. y soy nuevo en este grupo, estoy investigando mi apellido Pro y actualmente estoy trabajando los datos de mi bisabuelo Hilario Pro (1836) casado con Ricarda Romo (1839) en Zacatecas, Zac. y al ver tus comentarios sobre el apellido Romo me gustaria preguntarte si te has topado con el apellido Pro, de antemano gracias.
Humberto
Como dice Daniel; Humberto, seria bueno que nos mandes tu genealogia, a lo
mas avanzado que haz llegado y vemos en que te podemos ayudar, yo he visto
tu apellido en algunos gedcoms, aunque no propiamente el mio pero igual
podriamos encontrar algo.. con la ayuda de LSD.
Saludos!!
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From:
Sent: Monday, January 25, 2010 10:46 PM
To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] SOBRE LOS PRO ROMO
> Hola Paco
> Me llamo Humberto Pro V. y soy nuevo en este grupo, estoy investigando mi
> apellido Pro y actualmente estoy trabajando los datos de mi bisabuelo
> Hilario Pro (1836) casado con Ricarda Romo (1839) en Zacatecas, Zac. y al
> ver tus comentarios sobre el apellido Romo me gustaria preguntarte si te
> has topado con el apellido Pro, de antemano gracias.
> Humberto
Paco: tus ancestros son de Encarcacion de Diaz?
En mi arbo, genealogico temgo muchisimoas Romo y Zermeño seguro somos parientes, pues mi linea materna esta llena de Romos y Zermeños de La Chona.
Tal vez algo de lo que tengo te pueda servir.Si estas en busca de alguien en especifico, y te puedo ayudar , me daría gusto.
Miguel Beltran
Uuu miguel pues seguro que vamos a coincidir mi linea Romo totalmente de la
chona!!, mira en esa linea es donde estoy mas atorado pero en estos dias te
mando lo que tengo a parte dejame te digo que mi esposa es Zermeño y acabo
de descubrir que somos parientes la mama de su tatarabuelo era hermana de mi
bisabuelo asi que su tatarabuelo era Zermeño Romo asi que por ahi vamos a
andar!!
de hecho en donde estoy atorado es en mi bisabuelo lo unico que he
conseguido son los nombres de sus padres despues te mando informacion
gracias por tu ofrecimiento
igual... si quieres algo del archivo Historico de Aguascalientes que te
sirva nomas dime...
Saludos!
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From:
Sent: Tuesday, December 22, 2009 6:09 PM
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] De regreso! para investiguar
> Paco: tus ancestros son de Encarcacion de Diaz?
>
> En mi arbo, genealogico temgo muchisimoas Romo y Zermeño seguro somos
> parientes, pues mi linea materna esta
Ok aqui les pongo la primer pagina de la lista de Testamentos que les puedo compartir despues vienen las otras..
A los que quieran alguno de la lista por favor envienme un correo con el siguiente
Encabezado (Subject): Testamentos de Nuestros Ranchos
Es escencial que pongan esto en el subject del email para poder filtrarlos e irles dando seguimiento en orden.. tardo 1 o 2 dias en enviarlos
Saludos...
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27-04-1687 AGUASCALIENTES ALONSO DE NAVARRETE ARGOTE JUAN DE ESPARZA 8
11-02-1687 AGUASCALIENTES ALONSO DE NAVARRETE ARGOTE NICOLAS PONCE 9
20-01-1687 AGUASCALIENTES ALONSO DE NAVARRETE ARGOTE JUAN FERNANDEZ DE CASTRO, REGIDOR 6
11-01-1687 AGUASCALIENTES ALONSO DE NAVARRETE ARGOTE NICOLAS MARTIN GALLARDO 26
30-12-1686 AGUASCALIENTES ALONSO DE NAVARRETE ARGOTE MARIA NUÑEZ DE ORTEGA 6
15-09-1686 AGUASCALIENTES ALONSO DE NAVARRETE ARGOTE FRANCISCO DE
Hola Paco,
Recuerda que somos nietos de Julian Gutierrez & Paula Munoz. Hemos hablado antes y por lo visto tienes varios testamentos de mis antecedentes como Juan Macias Valadez casado Maria Manuela Ramirez de Hermosillo y Jacinto Lozano casado con Francisca Vasquez-de-Lara. Si no es mucho trabajo si me interesaria mucho ver estos testamentos.
Gracias de antemano,
Irma Gomez Gtz
Northern California
Que tal paco me gustaria que me pudieras enviarme el Testamento de Jacinto Lozano puesto que yo desciendo de esta persona agradeceria tu ayuda y de antemano muchas gracias. Saludos!!!
Paco, pudiéras mandarme el testamento de jacinto Lozano a mi también ? Gracias.
Ruben Casillas M.
--- El vie 5-mar-10, gus_quezada@yahoo.com.mx escribió:
De:: gus_quezada@yahoo.com.mx
Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Testamentos de Nuestros Ranchos Jacinto Lozano
A: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Fecha: viernes, 5 de marzo de 2010, 20:32
Que tal paco me gustaria que me pudieras enviarme el Testamento de Jacinto Lozano puesto que yo desciendo de esta persona agradeceria tu ayuda y de antemano muchas gracias. Saludos!!!
Les envio el link para que empecemos cuanto antes saludos!!
www.romogutierrez.com/Transcripciones
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From: "ruben casillas moreno"
Sent: Saturday, March 06, 2010 11:45 AM
To: ;
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Testamentos de Nuestros Ranchos
JacintoLozano
> Paco, pudiéras mandarme el testamento de jacinto Lozano a mi también ?
> Gracias.
>
> Ruben Casillas M.
>
> --- El vie 5-mar-10, gus_quezada@yahoo.com.mx
> escribió:
>
>
> De:: gus_quezada@yahoo.com.mx
> Asunto: [Nuestros Ranchos] Testamentos de Nuestros Ranchos Jacinto Lozano
> A: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Fecha: viernes, 5 de marzo de 2010, 20:32
>
>
>
> Que tal paco me gustaria que me pudieras enviarme el Testamento de Jacinto
> Lozano puesto que yo desciendo de esta persona agradeceria tu ayuda y de
> antemano muchas gracias. Saludos!!!
Estoy trabajando en una pagina donde pienso poner la lista completa de
Trestamentos con los que cuento, y asi poder trabajar en la transcripcion
con el grupo.
Espero el proximo fin de semana tenerla ya armada para que puedan bajar los
testamentos
Saludos a todos los interesados!
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From:
Sent: Friday, March 05, 2010 9:32 PM
To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Testamentos de Nuestros Ranchos Jacinto Lozano
>
> Que tal paco me gustaria que me pudieras enviarme el Testamento de Jacinto
> Lozano puesto que yo desciendo de esta persona agradeceria tu ayuda y de
> antemano muchas gracias. Saludos!!!
Un agradecimiento a todos los que me han ofrecido su ayuda, estoy haciendo una lista de lo que tengo y de ese modo sepan exactamente que les pueda servir para enviarles; De ese modo pueden hacer las consultas ustedes mismos, ya que me plague rapidamente de correos con preguntas sobre lo que tengo jeje!!
Asi que en estos dias subo la lista aqui al post y por supuesto que cualquier cosa que quieran solo me la piden ok??
Saludos a todos y espero que tambien en estos dias pueda tener la lista de las dudas que tengo en mi arbol ojala alguien me pueda ayudar, ya que es practicamente imposible para mi pedir rollos de los mormones por el problema de mis viajes constantes. Ojala alguien tuviera las actas que requiero si no gracias de cualquier forma por ofrecerme su ayuda.
Seguimos en contacto
Me uno a la lista de interesados en los testamentos que mencionas.
En lo pesonal soy Romo por parte de madre, Quiza coincidamos en más de algun ancestro. Lo poco que tengo tal vez te sirva, e igual que, tu no tengo ningun problema en compartirlo.
Miguel Beltran
Que nombres exactos buscas de los Romo y Gutierrez?
Miguel Gutierrez de la Torre
----- Original Message -----
From: pacoromog@hotmail.com
To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 4:23 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] De regreso! para investiguar a los Romo y a losGutierrez y con los deseos de compartir lo que tengo!
Solo para avisarles que aprovechando las fiestas navideñas, quiero seguir con mi investigacion sobre las familias Romo y Gutierrez, ya que esta es la unica epoca en que le puedo decicar tiempo debido a mis constantes viajes por trabajo, por ahora resido en Toronto y espero segui aqui durante un mes... asi que pongo a su disposicion todo lo que he logrado obener durante este año y que apenas ahora puedo empezar a ordenar y analizar.
Tengo Testamentaria antigua del Estado de aguascalientes (Practicamente toda la existente en el Archivo Historico de Aguascalientes)
Fotografias Antiguas de la ciudad y el Estado de
Hola Paco ,
Me llamo Welester G. Alvarado y todavia estoy atorado con mi tatarabuelo Candelario Alvarado que creo que su familia llego desde Aguascaliente o Zacatecas , bueno si me interesa mucho lo que tienes .
Si me ayuda EXCELENTE ! Si no , pues esta muy padre a tener ese informacion y si algen que yo conozco le puede ayudar se lo pasa . Como vez .
Muchas gracias ,
Welester
>
> Tengo Testamentaria antigua del Estado de aguascalientes (Practicamente toda la existente en el Archivo Historico de Aguascalientes)
>
> Fotografias Antiguas de la ciudad y el Estado de Aguascalientes.
>
> Cartas notariales, documentos de orden judicial y civil que se encuentran en el Archivo historico, Etc. etc....
>
> Si alguien esta interesado en obtener alguno de estos documentos hagamelo saber, no tengo ningun empacho en compartirlos.
>
> La idea es compartirlos, Ojala esta fuera la idea general del grupo jiji!!
>
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hola Welester:
Oye fijate que de tu familia la verdad no tengo nada en mi arbol...pero como
te digo si por ahi en tu investigacion sabes de la existencia de algun
documento que pueda tener el archivo historico sobre tu familia hazmelo
saber, yo veo si lo tengo y te lo envio ok??
El problema es que no tengo aun una lista de todo lo que tengo del archivo
historico en cuanto la haga, te la paso y asi ves lo que te sirva sale?
Saludos!!! seguimos en contacto
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From: "Lester Alvarado"
Sent: Tuesday, December 15, 2009 7:54 PM
To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Hola Paco
>
> Hola Paco ,
>
>
>
> Me llamo Welester G. Alvarado y todavia estoy atorado con mi tatarabuelo
> Candelario Alvarado que creo que su familia llego desde Aguascaliente o
> Zacatecas , bueno si me interesa mucho lo que tienes .
>
> Si me ayuda EXCELENTE ! Si no , pues esta muy padre a tener ese
> informacion y si algen que yo conozco le puede ayudar se lo pasa
Hola Paco,
Ok , Gracias !
Welester
> hola Welester:
>
> Oye fijate que de tu familia la verdad no tengo nada en mi arbol...pero como
> te digo si por ahi en tu investigacion sabes de la existencia de algun
> documento que pueda tener el archivo historico sobre tu familia hazmelo
> saber, yo veo si lo tengo y te lo envio ok??
>
> El problema es que no tengo aun una lista de todo lo que tengo del archivo
> historico en cuanto la haga, te la paso y asi ves lo que te sirva sale?
>
> Saludos!!! seguimos en contacto
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