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Jaime yo dije que don es una abreviación de las palabras de origen noble.

Si los romanos llamaban a los propietarios dueños es otra cosa, no le busque las etimologías, ese es el origen del término.

Usted es libre de pensar lo que guste.

Rodolfo Sinaí Gómez

> Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 00:20:14 +0000
> From: alvaradj@comcast.net
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Don y Doña
>
> Perdoneme Rodolfo pero la etimologia de Don , NO es de las siglas De Origen Noble. De acuerdo al Diccionario de la Real Academia Española, viene de el Latin dominus (proprietario o señor). De acuerdo con la Enciclopedia Britanica, en la epoca romana se utilizaba dominus para el dueño de propriedad y esclavos. Fue de echo el emperador Diocleciano (284 to 305 DC) el primero en utilizarlo y sus sucesores fueron conocidos como dominate ( dominatus ).
>
> Ahora, estoy de acuerdo que su uso original era reservado para el trato de aquellas personas de noble origen

Hello Luis,
As I previously mentioned I've only researched 2 years 1857/1858 on the Aguas, Aguas. pilot site--entry by entry--and I've come across so many last names I've never heard of before, and my mother is from there. Including an entry 10/22/1858 that reads: "en la Calle de la Carcel: hijo legmo. de D.Amacio Martel y Da. Dolly Levy!" Anyway, don't despair. I've been searching for about two years now with no luck locating/connecting my Onate's, Santelice's, Balderrama's, and Candelas, all from the Zacs, Aguas, and Jalisco areas. All very illustrous names, but no connections. Buena suerte, Alice BB

I'm interested how you found this out because I'm in the same situation with my dead end ancestor, Jorge JAIME (de Xaime) "Espanol, nacido de padres no conocidos." I assume that someone knew who his parents were in El Puesto de San Miguel DE LOS ALBA because he's clearly labeled an "Espanol" and also given a (somewhat rare) surname, which doesn't exist in Ags. in that

Daniel,

On one of your posts you said
"On there records baptisms ( they have the last name López but "de padre no conocido" y Gorgonia de Mendoza" Everyone knew he was the father except his wife and his other family. THe list goes on of escándolos. Thought I just share this part of Alteño history in my family. -Daniel"

I'm interested how you found this out because I'm in the same situation with my dead end ancestor, Jorge JAIME (de Xaime) "Espanol, nacido de padres no conocidos." I assume that someone knew who his parents were in El Puesto de San Miguel DE LOS ALBA because he's clearly labeled an "Espanol" and also given a (somewhat rare) surname, which doesn't exist in Ags. in that time period when he was baptized...

thanks,
Luis

Luis Jaime

 With knowledge comes responsibility. I personally have chosen to be quiet about things learned that would affect family members who are still living. My information is not gathered to cause pain or split families. The things I've learned from the records of the past are another story, those I will report accurately. I have heard more than once that is was not uncommon for the men of Mexico to have more than one family or to have a family plus a "carida". My Father told me on his vist to Jerez in 1936 his elderly uncle took him to meet his "carida" and told Dad as long as she knew her place and it was never put to his wife and he could afford to support both so it was acceptable. His marriage had been arranged as many were in old Mexico. His marriage was more of a partnership so you wonder if this was the way to find love in those days. I don't think it would have been allowed for women but for the men it seemed to happen many times. I did try
to find the children of this

I am fairly new to this group but really appreciate how much I have
learned already. I enjoyed reading people's reasons why they are doing
their family genealogy. I am doing my own because of the skeletons in our
closest and the weird inaccuracies that have formed because of secrets. By
now family members don't know how they are related, where we come from
(other than just Mexico), and why. We have nearly lost the important
stories of our family. This is of particular importance to me as I have
pursued graduate education. My education has been at times uncomfortable
for family members. I have one family member that likes to say "we come
from people with dirt floors" as a reminder that we were not meant for
much. A very sad message to pass on.

In doing genealogy I have in fact learned that I had family members that
were university educated (one was a lawyer) and were able to enjoy
luxuries. None of these families had dirt floors when they were in Mexico.
It was only when they came to

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Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
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From: R.A.Ricci
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, February 26, 2009 1:36 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Francisco ? Suazo

Can somebody read the attached marriage recording and figure out what the middle name is?

George,

Thomas Alejo de Villalpando married twice:

1. María de Vargas (aka María de Heredia) on 7 Oct 1677 in Aguascalientes. They had four children, all baptized at Parroquia de la Asunción de Aguascalientes:

i. Antonio chr. 07 Oct 1682 baptized when he was1 month old.
ii. Maria chr. 25 Apr 1684 (22 days old)
iii. Maria (second with that name) chr. 5 Dec 1685
iv. Thomas chr. 29 Mar 1687

María de Vargas died 18 Mar 1687 of childbirth complications, 11 days before the baptism of her fourth child. Thomas de Villalpando remarried three years later at Parroquia de la Asunción.

2. María Ruiz de Esparza (aka María Sotelo, aka María de Jaén) on 12 Mar 1690. She was the daughter of Ignacio Ruiz de Esparza and Elena Sotelo de Jaén, and the great-granddaughter of Lope Ruiz de Esparza and Francisca Gabai. Thomas de Villalpando and María de Jaén had the following six children:

i. Juan Manuel chr. 27 Dec 1690
ii. María Theresa chr. 10 May 1693
iii. María Antonia chr. 04 Apr 1695
iv

Hola Bertha,

Yo tambien desciendo de los ACEVES de Tepa, originalmente de la Capilla de Guadalupe, de Don Antonio Faustino el "Amo" Aceves, fundador de la Capilla. Si hay algo en que te pueda ayudar me dices, y tambien de algunas familias NAVARRO de Tepa y Capilla.

Puedes revisar esta parte de mis ancestros en
http://miarbolfamiliar.com/familias/rodriguez-camarena/bot08.htm

Hasta luego,

Ricardo

I have found the name Lara to extensive throughout the area of Jalpas de Canovas, formerly known as Hacienda Jalpas de Canovas, Guanajuato, which at one time was owned by the Braniff family who intermarried into Mexican families. Incidentally, the same Braniff Air line family. My grandmother was a Lara from this area and my grandmother spoke affectionately of Aguascalientes. She told my father what indigenous group she belonged to but he did not remember. My research is in this area and in Arandas, Jal. and Ayotlan, Jal has been on the Cano line.

From: Jen Derby
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] New Member-surnames Lara, Guardado in Lagos de Moreno and AguasCalientes
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Sunday, February 15, 2009, 4:45 PM

Hello,
 
I am doing genealogical research--my family comes primarily from the Lagos de
Moreno area with many of them being 'indios' from the Pueblo de Moya
which is now a neighborhood in present-day Lagos de Moreno. One branch of the
family then

Daniel,

Thanks for all the valuable information you provide to everyone in the group.

Now in regards to your inquiry, I don't know if this will answer your question below but I recently bought this book from one of the nuestros ranchos members in Escondido Calif. The book is titled Cronica de la Provincia de Santiago de Xalisco, Escrita por. Fr. Nicolas Antonio De Ornelas Mendoza y Valdivia~ 1719-1722. He may be one of your relatives. The book was published in Guadalajara by the Instituto Jaliscience de Antropologia e Historia. INAH 1962.

Pages 59-63 refer to XUCHIPILA, year 1543. There is the following paragraph.

Después que dejó el capitán Juan Delgado le encomienda de el Teul, por sus achaques, la sirvió el capitán Miguel González, el mozo, y este se avenia con mucha amistad con los religiosos y con el encomendero de Xuchipila, que era el señor capitán Hernán de Flores, yerno de el licienciado Diego Pérez de la Torre: y con la ayuda de entreambos, cogieron corriente estas dos

Hola Daniel. I have found in old records pertaining to one of my ancestors, that the "Flores Alatorre" and "Flores de la Torre" surnames were used interchangeably. At least, this was the case 1794 and 1821 in Juchipila, Zacatecas.

Archival records pertaining to my 6th GG-father, Nicolas Flores, who served as a judicial official in Juchipila during those years, show both names were used in this period.

Good luck with the rest.

Claudia Reynoso

Jaime

Thank you for the reply. As you have concluded, I also think that Isabel Ramires and Isabel Esparza are the same person.

I looked in the IGI, doing a search for all children of Antonio and Isabel (without last names). In the period of interest, most are children of Isbael Ramires, and only one of Isabel Esparza (this is Luis de los Reyes), but that one fits right in with the others. There is also a child of Antonio de los Reyes and Isabel "Jamines," I did not have time to look at the record today, but I would not be surprised if this were a transcription error.

I've looked in the IGI for a marriage to Antonio de los Reyes and Isabel Ramires or Esparza, but did not find one.

I would appreciate it if you could send the jpg of the Information Matrimonial for Joseph de los Reyes and Beatriz de Medina (Thank you!). My e-mail is gpf13@aol.com.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

I have Antonio de los Reyes (I cant find him on the IGI for some reason) as son of Luís de los reyes and Juana Tiscareño de Molina. Luís' parents are Luís de Murguía and María de la Cruz. Juana's parents are uknown. -Daniel

I am third generation and so I had a mother, (father died when I was 3) who was fully Mexican-American, she only spoke English to her children, Spanish to her family and Spanglish with her friends.

Like my husband with the same experience-- we are 3rd and 4th generation, depending which side you count, our parents did not have any interest in Mexico. They were children of the Great Depression and served in World War II, some in WWI.

I will never understand why not.

When I was about 8 my father's birth certificate was taken out and I was thrilled, just thrilled to see this absolutely exotic name where my paternal grandfather was born: Teocaltiche, Jalisco. It took me until 1994 searching LDS records to find my grandfather's baptismal record.
Also, my maternal grandmother had for her era done an awful thing by deserting her husband, my natural grandfather in San Antonio Texas and getting a divorce. I always hated being the half-cousin and half niece. My step-grandfather

Oh, yes, I forgot to add that genealogy enabled me to discover where
the policystic kidney disease entered our family in Scotland, Canada,
and the US. My mother's father and 2 of his brother's died of it.
Two of my mother's sisters had it and died of its consequences. My
aunt Margaret had eight kids, five had PKD but are still alive because
medical treatment is much better. My aunt Sheila's only child has it
and, although married, my cousin does not want children so as to not
pass this on to them. Blessedly, none of my sisters nor I have it. It
came in through my ancestress Margaret--my great-great-great
grandmother. I'd never have found where the PKD came in at earlier
because the records in Scotland weren't made available sooner than I
found them.:) Marge V.:)
On Feb 21, 2009, at 11:42 AM, mexicanfhr wrote:

I just wanted to ask the group, why are we doing genealogy? I have
been asked ti give a talk about why we do genealogy? It has made me
think

I started doing genealogy when I was a child, only I didn't know
that's what I was doing. I was gathering information from the elders
in my father's family. I was the only child allowed to eat at the
grownups' dinner table because I kept quiet and didn't squirm around.
Then when I was a little older I asked questions specifically about
family and then quit cold turkey for years until I was in my 30s where
I did some oral interviews with my mother AND my father, separately.
Then in my 40s, I went whole hog (and having learned from my then-job
how to conduct data gathering, interviews, and citation techniques)
and learned a whole lot!!!!

Isn't it funny that someone (with the initials MLE :) ) with an
unusual surname (which I discovered is in my ancestry) wished for a
common surname, whereas, I, who had a super common Spanish surname
always loved my great-grandmother's surname of Saldivar, just because
it WAS so unusual. And it was THAT surname and the

Jonathan,

I started doing genealogy back in the early 80s when I used to take my mother to see her siblings in Los Angeles and in New Mexico. My father had passed 20 years before.

I used to listen to my mother and her siblings speak that New Mexican lingo that my father, who was from Zacatecas and spoke good Castellan, would so often criticize. My husband, descended from Altenos, also criticized their Spanish. Those "Manitos", as they called themselves, were a breed all their own. I discovered through my research that they were descended from Pueblo Indian tribes and Spaniards of hidden Jewish descent. I found a cousin who was a war captain for our tribe of Piro-Manso-Tewa. They didn't like the Mexicans "del otro lado" and vice-versa.

My mother had to learn to cook "Mexican" food when she moved to California. Her people had been isolated in the pueblos of New Mexico since the 1600s when they had been baptized and Hispanicized. I was able to trace their ancestry back to

For me it started almost 5 years ago, when I was 12. In church we were taught it was important to know where we come from and from whom. I have a couple of Mulatto (half black/half white) lines, mestizos, couple of native American and spanish lines. What a mix! For me I started because my grandfather and mother were both doing genealogy and I caught the bug at age of 12. As i go through my geenalogy I can almost feel them its a special feeling that I cannot describe. Knowing that all tthose who have died and are still alived made me. We can know our roots and take them into the future. From genealogy I have learned were I come from and where I will go. Also it is for my future descendants.
-Daniel Méndez Camino

My grandparents and later my parents were into family history. My
grandmother made coloring books of our ancestors. A basic character with
clothing that told us about the person. She later stitched these images
on a quilt. When my mother started she would tell the same stories over
and over. I thought, family history was for old people and some day I
would be involved in it. Today at 30 I don't feel so old, but I am a very
passionate genealogist. I am working on my husbands lines. This venture
has healed the relationships I have had with his family. I'm not sure
what the problem was to begin with.......but those hard feeling have gone
away. I am learning about the living and those who have passed. My
husband knew he was related to people but he could never tell me there
names or how. Now I remind him, I take him to visit.......These are
wonderful people who have stories, wisdom, thoughts that enrich our
lives. And sometimes we discover unpleasant things as well, but I am no
ones judge

Jonathan, why did you start doing genealogy?
 
Linda in Everett

--- On Sat, 2/21/09, mexicanfhr wrote:

From: mexicanfhr
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Why are we doing genealogy?
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Saturday, February 21, 2009, 9:42 AM

I just wanted to ask the group, why are we doing genealogy? I have been asked
ti give a talk about why we do genealogy? It has made me think, about why I
started my genealogy about 30 years ago. And I just wanted to get, some more
ideas or thoughts from the group members.

Jonathan

About 20 years ago at a Castanon family reunion I noticed my grandmother Juana Sanchez Castanon crying quietly as she watched the family.  I asked her why and she said that in 50 years there would not be a Mexican left in our family. A great number of my generation, including me had married into so many different nationalities we look like a United Nations but very few spoke Spanish, had the classic dark features refered to as Mexican looking and our children did not claim Hispanic heritage at all.  I was one of the few remaining grandkids who understood some Spanish but did not speak it either.  I was also from a generation that did not take pride in our heritage since we were told we were different, inferior and only good for labor by our community.  I felt it my "calling" to try to learn what our history was. I've been working on this quest for 15 years now.  I not only have an immense sense of pride in myself and my ancestors but have a sense
of responsibility to those who came

I got the genealogy bug 20 years ago when my kids were little and we got our
first video camera. I started interviewing my parents, aunts, uncles,
grandmother, and grandaunts, and eventually graduated to researching
ancestors when I learned about familysearch.org. Like Angelina, it was a
way for me to stay connected to my large, extended family, since they are in
California and I've been on the East Coast for 31 years now. Many of my
relatives are on my group email list. I'm able to share my small successes
with them and invariably at least one responds. But there is a real
spiritual component to this quest. I feel like I really honor each one of
my ancestors and past family members by finding them, saying their names
again, fitting them into our family tree. I like to think that somewhere in
the spirit world they are smiling, happy to be remembered, relieved to be
included.

On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 12:42 PM, mexicanfhr wrote:

>
> I just wanted to ask the group, why are we

Jonathan,

Funny.

I've been asking myself why I WOULD want to seek my ancestry. I haven't done much but, what little history I know of the "conquest" is that these invaders didn't really bring their women and families to settle Nueva Espana in the way the English did. Especially in the beginning, they mostly raped the indigenous women and killed the ones that would try to fight them off. Much like the slave owners in the united states, many were raped by their European slavemasters, impregnated and left for dead. It's been said that "the Child is what the Mother is." I suspect it would be much more difficult to trace the lineage of our mother's mother's mother... How many Mestizos are the result of rape whether married or not? Sure science says a father is a father but, I don't know if I would consider a man who raped my mother and left her for dead to be my father.

I'm not putting genealogy down, these are just questions I've asked myself and because of Jonathan's question

Hello to Everyone,my reason was kinda of a wierd . I grew up in a mexican neighborhood and constantly being told I didn't look mexican ,what happened to me.. I too wondered why looked the way I did ,light complexion, hazel eyes. I began to notices my extended family on my dads side 98 % light,my grandmother with a green eye and blue eye.My maternal grandfather was very dark but it was frustrating I allowed people to make me feel odd.I began to ask questions ,study history of mexico and tracing my ancestors ,to find my answer.

Chinese Proverb:What is a tree without roots,What is a stream without its source ?

Now I know why I look the way I do,and I have met cool new primos in my search.

Ronnie Reynoso, pariente acasi todos de Los Altos de Jalisco

> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:42:21 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Why are we doing genealogy?
>
>
> I just wanted to ask the group, why are we doing genealogy? I

Hi Jonathan -

I grew up hearing "stories" from aunts and uncles - unbelievable stories,
such as we were French, Spanish and Indian heritage on my mother's side and
derived from royal blood on my father's side. I wanted to verify these stories.

I grew up in the US - my mother's grandparents died before I was born - they
had come during the time of Revolution, and no aunt or uncle kept in touch
with that side of the family in Mexico (Zacatecas). On my father's side, he
had died when I was a baby - and all of his family lived in Mexico (Coahuila)-
I would hear the aunts and uncles tell us many stories when I visited.

Today, I feel it is as if the ancestors want me to whisper their name and
write it down so they are not forgotten. By the way, I am still looking for
verification of our French blood and trying to verify the royal blood story.
In the meantime, I did discover that I came from a long legacy of educators -
and I am one today - seems like some

Jonathan

For me there are two reasons:

(1) Knowing where we came from tells us something about who we are.
(2) It is a gift to my children.

George

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Jonathan,

When I was a little girl we moved to U.S. I didn't like the move because I loved my grandparents so very much and I hated to leave them. Both paternal and maternal. That's when the seed was planted and I wanted to know more about my ancestors. I had a ggg-mother named Maria Dolores Diaz who lived to a ripe old age of 103 - so I am told - I have not verified that. What I do know is that she made my clothes when I was a baby. She used to make beautiful knit and crochet clothing for a living and always made extra for me. She would work very hard for 3-4 months straight; would buy more material to make more projects, and would spend the rest of the money on her drinking binges until all the money was gone. Then she would start all over again. :-)

Another ggg-father named Jose Rafael Lopez Aguilar lived to 102 and I did take a picture of the little cemetery house where he was buried. I come from families that were big in numbers. One of my ggg-aunts had 17 children. My

For me genealogy began about 10 years ago at my father's funeral. I asked some of my nephews and nieces if they knew my father's father's name. None of them knew. I vowed then not to let my father's ancestors die with him, too.

Jose Carlos de Leon

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> To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: jonathan@mexicanfhr.com
> Date: Sat, 21 Feb 2009 09:42:21 -0800
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Why are we doing genealogy?
>
>
> I just wanted to ask the group, why are we doing genealogy? I have been asked ti give a talk about why we do genealogy? It has made me think, about why I started my genealogy about 30 years ago. And I just wanted to get, some more ideas or thoughts from the group members.
>
> Jonathan

Hi Jonathan,

My experiences with family history is as follows. I became intensely curious about my ancestry as pre-teenager. I found myself doubting all the oral traditions passed on by my parents and grandparents and their siblings. Growing up is hard enough without adding the element of being treated by everyone else as unacceptably "different." Just like old Sergeant Friday, I wanted just the facts.

Learning the "facts" continues to be a life-altering process for me. I'll be 71 in less than three months. I have been researching off and on since the 1970's. The "facts" continue to surprise me. Curiosity is no longer the force driving my research. I feel a compelling need to understand myself better. I also see the results of investigation as a very worthwhile legacy for my children and their children and so on.

I have come to believe that well-done family history research helps us to include others in our lives. It does not drive wedges between and among us. I could

Hi there Jonathan,

I always had a yearning for my beginings . When I was 10 yrs. old my dad picked me up from my friends house ( Ramon Palacios ) he lived in front of Roosevelt High School in East Los Angeles . Anyway , as we were driving I asked my dad where my name came from . My name is Welester G. Alvarado . You can only imagine how i took the blows for a name such as mine . All my friends were Henry , Richard , John etc. etc. and here I was with a name like Welester . The kids called me Chester , Dexter , Fester and the list goes on and on .

Well back to my dad and the big question ¨where did my name come from ¨ I was certain that he would tell me . So, I asked ¨hey pop ( that´s what I called my dad ¨ Where did my name come from . He quickly turned and in a very sharp tone said ¨WHY ! don´t you like it ! I slowly slid down the car seat and softly replied .....yes . That was that ! No more questions about my name .

That in short Jonathan made me start to question my

For me genealogy is a way to connect to family. While I came from a relatively large family (6 kids) we were raised away from our extended family in Mexico. I really enjoyed the few visits we made as kids and relished in the feeling of being surrounded by family. This need to connect with family was intensified when my father died in 2006 and so I discovered genealogy .... I think of my father each time I make another connection, I can picture him sitting next to me sharing the joy of each and every new discovery.

Hello Jonathan,

My father and I started genealogy back in 1987 when he was diagnosed with ALS, also known as Lou Gehrig's disease. His doctors were curious to know if there was a family history of this. My father died in 1988 and his brother followed in death also from ALS. This fueled my desire to find out more about our family. Since beginning, I have now found 31 family members who died from some motor neuron disease such as ALS througout the years as far back as 1850's when it was known as 'creeping paralysis' or 'loco motor ataxia'. This information has allowed us to participate in studies of this disease in pursuit of a cure. Two more family members passed away last year, my dad's aunt and a cousin.

Hope this helps.

Catherine Wood

Hi Jonathan!

I wish I had started doing genealogy 30 years ago!!! :-) The reason
I do genealogy is probably a selfish one......I only have one
brother.....I come from a small family and always wanted a larger
family......my parents had other ideas!! :-)

I have always had this "yearning" to find the rest of my
family.......although I knew very little about them. It gives me
great satisfaction when I discover a bit of information about them. I
am absolutely overjoyed when I finally meet one of my distant cousins
through genealogy! It is the very best feeling (for me) in this world!

My grandfather (Julian Trevino) was born when his father was age 71
and his mother was age 41! He was the last of 17 children from two
families of my great-grandfather!!! To me it is a great miracle that
I even exist!!! :-) When my grandfather was born he was given to his
padrinos (also his cousins) with the understanding that they never
change his Trevino surname. He was

I just did a quick exact name search and found the following in the IGI.

ANASTASIA RAMOS MASCORRO, 27 APR 1868  Ledesma, Ojuelos,
ANTONIO RAMOS/ JESUS MASCORRO, C602244, 1865 - 1871,  0641030
JUSTA RAMOS MASCORRO, 15 AUG 1870  Ledesma, Ojuelos, Jalisco
MA. PRECILIANA RAMOS MASCORRO, 14 JAN 1866 Ledesma, Ojuelos
Justa and Preciliana have same batch and film numbers.

JUANA RAMOS MASCORRO, 02 JUN 1856  Ledesma, Ojuelos
ANTONIO RAMOS/ JESUS MASCORRO, K602242, 1855 - 1861, 0641028
JERONIMA RAMOS MASCORRO, 07 OCT 1860  Ledesma, Ojuelos
TILANA RAMOS MASCORRO, 10 OCT 1858 Ledesma, Ojuelos
Jeronima and Tilana have same batch as Juana above.

LONJINA RAMOS MASCORRO, 23 MAR 1863 Ledesma, Ojuelos, Jalisco
C602243 1861 - 1865 0641029

Hope this is of help to you. Good luck.

David in Albany, CA

-----Original Message-----
>From: Del
>Sent: Feb 19, 2009 7:32 PM
>To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
>Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ramos families from Ledesma, Ojuelos, Jalisco, Mexico
>
>
>My

Hi Daniel!

Let me know when you get into Nuevo Leon.......I am also researching
the "Liendo" surname and so far have hit a BIG brick wall in Zacatecas
in the 1700s. If you ever see the surname LIENDO anywhere it will
probably tie into my lineage. I know it is pretty common in South
America and Spain but I need to get everything out of Zacatecas before
I go there......Thanks again! Josie in Houston

On Feb 22, 2009, at 2:48 PM, Daniel M�ndez del Camino wrote:

> Hi Josie, I always see the last names you mention all over the
> place! Sagrada Mitra, several books and a bunch of documents. Right
> now I am focusing on

Hi Josie, I always see the last names you mention all over the place! Sagrada Mitra, several books and a bunch of documents. Right now I am focusing on Los Altos de Jalisco and there "families" (Aguascalientes, Nochistlán. Huanusco, Juchipila, Pinos etc. and Michoacan (Zamora, Tangícuaro, Chilchota, cOtija and Guanajuato (León, Ciudad Manuel DOblado, Silão.) Eventually Ill research the NuevoLeón Spanish families too. Its funny how all of these people are related through marriage and blood! -Daniel

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As I have been thinking about why I started and still do genealogy. Several things have come to mind:

I remember as brand new boy scout, going through my trusty handbook, looking the merit badges. I came across the Genealogy merit badge. I decided that the genealogy merit would be one of my first merit badges. If I remember right it was one of my 5 merit badges. I remember working on it, filling out the pedigree charts and the family group records, visiting the then local genealogical library (now called Family History Centers), seeing the records that they had available.

As I continued into my teenage years, my active interest in genealogy got put onto the back burner. And I didn't pursue any research for several years. But as I was raised in the LDS church, I had several opportunities, to participate in activities, that helped me to think of and to remember, my ancestors.

After I, got married, my wife and I moved to Idaho. Where for some reason, that I don't remember. I