The Cristero Rebellion

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size=2>When I completed my Bachelor of Arts degree in 2001, I did my History
major thesis on the Cristero Rebellion.  I have the actual 30 page thesis
with bibliography.  If anyone is interested, I can email it to them. 
I do not mind.

================================================================

Steven, I would like a copy of your thesis. 

 

Also, I did not receive the Power Point presentation.  Can you send
it?

 

Thank you

 

 


PTSIZE="10">Arturo Garza

The Cristero Rebellion

Dear Ranchos,

 

When I completed my Bachelor of Arts degree in 2001, I did my History major thesis on the Cristero Rebellion.  I have the actual 30 page thesis with bibliography.  If anyone is interested, I can email it to them.  I do not mind. 

 

Two years later, in May 2003, I prepared a Powerpoint presentation which I am now transmitting.  Hopefully, it'll inform and educate everyone as to what the Cristiada was, and who much it affected Mexico.

 

If there are any more questions, comments, or concerns regarding this topic, please let me know.  I would be quite interested in reading these.

 

Cordially,

Steven Francisco Hernandez-Lopez

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Penmanship Help...

Hi, Chris,
 
I believe it says "N. Y." for New York, don't you think?  I noticed when I viewed other pages in that county that the enumerator abbreviated other states.
 
Emilie
Port Orchard, WA
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Chris Pineda
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2005 10:16 AM
Subject: [ranchos] Penmanship Help...
 
Hi all,

I've been struggling for months to decipher a word on
the attached 1880 Census Form.  Specifically, I cannot
tell what the country of origin is for the mother of
Thomas (Tomas) Hale, my GGG Grandfather.

According to family history, he was born in Monterrey,
Nuevo Leon to Irish-born parents.  I don't know why or
how they ended up in Mexico, or even his parents names
or where in Ireland they were from.

I realize this is specific to Nuevo Leon, not a state
relevant to this listserve, but I still hope someone
with a sharper eye than my own can tell me what the
word is.

On the form, I can make out that his father was born
in Ireland but I have no idea what the word is for his
mother's country of origin. This part is not aligned
with his name, but it most certainly applies to him
(see the attached form to see what I mean)

Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Chris Pineda


           
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PBS Program on Krakatoa

Emilie, Thank you for the information. I shall be tuned in. Also, thank you for your time, and effort in assisting me with research before we joined the "Ranchos Group".

Saludos, Helyn

Emilie Garcia <auntyemfaustus@...> wrote:


Hello all,

 

Tonight, March 29, PBS TV is having a program about Krakatoa between 9-10:30 pm Pacific Time.  Thought some of you might be interested in watching it.

 

 Emilie

  Port Orchard, WA






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Irish in Mexico

I am in no way an expert...but just a little bit of history:

In the mid 1800's there was a large migration of Irish to the U.S.  
Since these Irishman were the new arrivals they were on the 'outs' 
and treated poorly.  They were harrased for being poor, uneducated, 
and Catholic.  As people were imigrating West to the new 
territories/states entering the Union, some of the Irish went South-
West into Mexico since they identified with the Catholic people in 
Mexico.

There is a movie I saw recently called "One Man's Hero" starring Tom 
Berenger.  This is taken from the Internet Movie Database: 
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0120775/

One Man's Hero (1999)
"One Man's Hero" tells the little-known story of the "St. Patrick's 
Brigade" or "San Patricios," a group of Irish immigrants who deserted 
to Mexico after encountering religious and ethnic prejudice in the 
U.S. Army during the Mexican-American War. The plot centers around 
the personal story of John Riley, an Irishman who had been a seargent 
in the American Army who leads the brigade, as he leads his men in 
battle and struggles with authorities on both sides of the border.

I did a quick google on "San Patricios" and got these website:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/San_Patricios
http://www.vivasancarlos.com/patrick.html
http://www.connemara.net/history/sanpatricios1.php

Everytime I see a red-haired mexican, I think s/he must descend from 
the "San Patricios"  :-)

Good Luck on your search,
Angie Godina


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> Hi all,
> 
> I've been struggling for months to decipher a word on
> the attached 1880 Census Form.  Specifically, I cannot
> tell what the country of origin is for the mother of
> Thomas (Tomas) Hale, my GGG Grandfather.
> 
> According to family history, he was born in Monterrey,
> Nuevo Leon to Irish-born parents.  I don't know why or
> how they ended up in Mexico, or even his parents names
> or where in Ireland they were from. 
> 
> I realize this is specific to Nuevo Leon, not a state
> relevant to this listserve, but I still hope someone

Penmanship Help...

Hi all,

I've been struggling for months to decipher a word on
the attached 1880 Census Form.  Specifically, I cannot
tell what the country of origin is for the mother of
Thomas (Tomas) Hale, my GGG Grandfather.

According to family history, he was born in Monterrey,
Nuevo Leon to Irish-born parents.  I don't know why or
how they ended up in Mexico, or even his parents names
or where in Ireland they were from. 

I realize this is specific to Nuevo Leon, not a state
relevant to this listserve, but I still hope someone
with a sharper eye than my own can tell me what the
word is.

On the form, I can make out that his father was born
in Ireland but I have no idea what the word is for his
mother's country of origin. This part is not aligned
with his name, but it most certainly applies to him
(see the attached form to see what I mean) 

Any help is greatly appreciated.  Thanks.

Chris Pineda


		
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A Bit of Oral History

this is a great story. . .please keep contributing them. If other folks
have oral history to share from Jalisco, Zacatecas, and/or
Aguascalientes please bring it on.



I knew that the Krakatau Volcano affected the whole world. . .in fact
somewhere in there there was the year that had no Summer but I think
that was earlier in the 1800's. . .not sure how that affected Mexico.



joseph



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A Bit of Oral History




My mother, was born in 1906 in Tlaltenango, she was told by her grandmother, born in 1866, that when she was a young girl in Tlaltenango, the sky turned dark, it was cold, and that little white things were falling from the sky.

 

She also said that the people in Tlalenango de Sanchez Roman were frightened,as they thought the world was coming to an end.

 

Two events happened in the world at that time.

 

The Great explosion of the Krakatau Volcano (Krakatoa") of

August 2, 1883, in Indonesia. The effects were experienced on a global scale. Fine ashes from the eruption were carried by upper level winds as far away as New York City. Tsunami waves were recorded or observed throughout the Indian Ocean, The Pacific Ocean, the American West Coast & South America.

 

November 27, 1885 - A shower of Andromedid meteors fell. On this same day an iron meteorite fell near Mazapil, Zacatecas (near Concepcion del Oro). I have sent a message to the university asking if the meteorite would have caused the sky to turn dark.

 

Thought this bit of information would be of interest to researchers. Glad I wrote this information given to me by my mother in my daughters "baby book" otherwise, I would have forgotten.

Helyn


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Hola amigo!
Gracias por tu informativa respuesta. Te lo agradezco mucho.
Entonces si hay posibilidad de que seamos parientes. Yo he visto
el apellido, 'Lopez de Elizalde. Lo mire en Los arquivos de la iglesia
Mormona.
Mi tatarabuelo Gregorio, parece que se cazo en jesus maria, en
1882.
El padre de el, se llamo Jose Maria Lopez.
Esta informacion la saque de los mismos arquivos.
Puede ser que este equivocado, pero, no estoy seguro.
Lastima que no se de los posibles hermandos de mi vis-abuelo
Vicente Lopez, hijo de Gregorio.
Pero, todavia, si tienes familia de Los Altos, yo diria que no
seria tanta coincidencia.
Seguiremos yo y tu sacando mas informacion.
Si puedes, amigo primo, me podrias hacer un 'Down-load' de tus
fotos?

Steven,



porque no los pones en la seccion de fotos del grupo? Entonces todos
pueden verlos.



gracias,



joseph


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Bueno, adios por ahora.
Sinceramente, Armando Lopez.



Pacorro73@... wrote:

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Familia LOPEZ de Los Altos, Jal., Mex.

Hola amigo!

Gracias por tu informativa respuesta. Te lo agradezco mucho.

Entonces si hay posibilidad de que seamos parientes. Yo he visto el apellido, 'Lopez de Elizalde. Lo mire en Los arquivos de la iglesia Mormona.

Mi tatarabuelo Gregorio, parece que se cazo en jesus maria, en 1882.

El padre de el, se llamo Jose Maria Lopez.

Esta informacion la saque de los mismos arquivos.

Puede ser que este equivocado, pero, no estoy seguro.

Lastima que no se de los posibles hermandos de mi vis-abuelo Vicente Lopez, hijo de Gregorio.

Pero, todavia, si tienes familia de Los Altos, yo diria que no seria tanta coincidencia.

Seguiremos yo y tu sacando mas informacion.

Si puedes, amigo primo, me podrias hacer un 'Down-load' de tus fotos?

Bueno, adios por ahora.

Sinceramente, Armando Lopez.

Pacorro73@... wrote:

Hola Armando,


 

Familia LOPEZ de Los Altos, Jal., Mex.

Hola amigo!

Gracias por tu informativa respuesta. Te lo agradezco mucho.

Entonces si hay posibilidad de que seamos parientes. Yo he visto el apellido, 'Lopez de Elizalde. Lo mire en Los arquivos de la iglesia Mormona.

Mi tatarabuelo Gregorio, parece que se cazo en jesus maria, en 1882.

El padre de el, se llamo Jose Maria Lopez.

Esta informacion la saque de los mismos arquivos.

Puede ser que este equivocado, pero, no estoy seguro.

Lastima que no se de los posibles hermandos de mi vis-abuelo Vicente Lopez, hijo de Gregorio.

Pero, todavia, si tienes familia de Los Altos, yo diria que no seria tanta coincidencia.

Seguiremos yo y tu sacando mas informacion.

Si puedes, amigo primo, me podrias hacer un 'Down-load' de tus fotos?

Bueno, adios por ahora.

Sinceramente, Armando Lopez.

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Hola Armando,


 

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Hola Armando,


 


¿Que tal, como has estado?  Espero que bien. Apenas voy viendo el mensaje donde explicas tus raíces alteñas.  He estado teniendo problemas con mi conexión al Internet aquí en casa.  Yo me llamo Steven Francisco Hernández López, y tres cuartos de mi genealogía es completamente alteña.  Mi abuelo paterno y mi bisabuelo paterno materno fueron originarios de Arandas.  Ellos dos tienen raíces profundas en Arandas, y anteriormente, en Ayo el Chico.  También por mi lado materno paterno, tengo muchas líneas arandenses.  


 


¿Dices que tienes líneas López provenientes de Arandas y Jesús María, Jalisco?  Entonces cabe la posibilidad que seamos parientes.  El año pasado tuve la oportunidad de ir a Arandas, Ayo el Chico, Jesús María, Tepatitlán, Atotonilco el Alto, San Miguel el Alto, Jalostotitlán, San Juan de los Lagos, Zapotlanejo, La Barca, Ocotlán, Lagos de Moreno, León, Guanajuato (pero no vi las momias), y Guadalajara.  Si te interesa, te pudiera mandar algunas fotos de mis viajes a los pueblos de mis antepasados en Los Altos de Jalisco.

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I Need Help with Penmanship: Ynes Flores de ??????

Hi, Alberto,
 
No, they weren't from Jerez.  Joseph attached a photo of the document he wanted help in deciphering, so I was responding to that.  His folks were from Aguascalientes and Cototlan.
 
Emilie
 Port Orchard, WA.
 
----- Original Message -----
From: Alberto Duarte
Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 5:55 PM
Subject: Re: [ranchos] I Need Help with Penmanship: Ynes Flores de ??????
 
Emile, were these families from Jerez?

Alberto

--- Emilie Garcia <auntyemfaustus@...> wrote:
> Hi, Joseph,
>
> It is a death certificate from February 7 (?)
> (siete) 1822.  He died of la grippe (gripa?).(or
> colic).  He was the  second husband of Mrs. Ramires,
> his widow, or it was his second marriage, I can't
> quite figure that out  It does look like his mother
> was Ynes Flores de Lisar.
>
> Emilie
> Port Orchard, WA
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Joseph Puentes
> Sent: Saturday, March 26, 2005 2:17 PM
> To: LosRanchos
> Subject: [ranchos] I Need Help with Penmanship: Ynes
> Flores de ??????
>
>
> If any of you have time could you look at this
> record and tell me what 
> you think Simon Torres' wife's complete name is?
> Seems to me that it is
> Maria Ynes Flores de ???Lisar. . .Lisas. . .Livar. .
> .Livan. . .???
>
> What is "Colico?"
>
> Can anyone make out the date of the record?
>
> shucks if anyone has time maybe you could give
> whatever details you have 
> time to decipher.
>
> thanks,
>
> joseph
>
> ps: Pedro Torres was my GGGG grandfather via his
> marriage to my GGGG 
> grandmother Maria Gertrudis Marquez and their