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Marge, I believe you are searching for relatives with
the last name of Olague.  Today in the obituary column
of the Santa Barbara News-Press newspaper, I found the
following:

"On March 8, 2005, our beloved grandfather, Felipe
Olague Menchaca peacefully passed away due to a long
term illness, with his closest family members at his
side.  Felipe was born  on May 26, 1919 in Jerez,
Zacatecas, Mx, to Alejo Menchaca and Aniceta Olague. 
He migrated to the United States in the 1940's and
settled in Santa Barbara, CA where he contributed to
the establishment of our railroad for several years. 
Two of Felipe's greatest accomplishment were marrying
the beautiful love of his life, Pauline Menchaca and
becoming an American citizen."

There was other information and you want me to send 
it to you, please let me know.  Both names, Olague and
Menchaca, are names that go back to the beginning of
Jerez when it was first settled.

My grandfather, Alberto Duarte Vasquez, who was from
Jerez, probably knew him or knew his father and
mother.  

Regards.

Alberto Duarte Prieto.


		
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Awhile back Steve Campos posted his website. . .I might be wrong but I
understood that he completely transcribed some of the films and put the
results on his page. For those of you doing research in Jerez:

URL: http://home.earthlink.net/~jerez/index.htm

joseph

are you the member of the church that submitted these records? If not
maybe you have a cousin out there that you need to contact:

GUADALUPE GARCIA ARROYO  	
  	Male 	  	
			
Event(s):
	Birth:  	
1868   	Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico
	Christening:
	Death:  	
1941   	
	Burial:
			
Parents:
  	Father:  	MARCIAL GARCIA 	Family
  	Mother:  	MARIA DEL REFUGIO ARROYO 	
	
Messages:

Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record
includes some persons who were alive and some who were deceased at the
time of submission. The film cannot be sent to family history centers
and has limited access at the Family History Library.

Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the
submitter's name and address and may include source information. The
address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know
the batch and sheet number.

				
Source Information:
	Batch Number:  	0760035 	  	
	Sheet:  	00 	  	
	Source Call No.:  	1553592   	Type:  	Film
=============================================================
EULOGIA GARCIA ARROYO  	
  	Female 	  	
			
Event(s):
	Birth:  	
1869   	Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico
	Christening:
	Death:
	Burial:
			
Parents:
  	Father:  	MARCIAL GARCIA 	Family
  	Mother:  	MARIA DEL REFUGIO ARROYO 	
	
Messages:

Family group record submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The record
includes some persons who were alive and some who were deceased at the
time of submission. The film cannot be sent to family history centers
and has limited access at the Family History Library.

Form submitted by a member of the LDS Church. The form lists the
submitter's name and address and may include source information. The
address may be outdated. Details vary. To find the form, you must know
the batch and sheet number.

I was at the local FHC yesterday to view film #1164746/Valparaiso 
Church Records- Informacion matrimonial, 1904-1907. I was perusing 
the film - wanted to see who was from Astillero, besides my 
grandfather and grandmother, when I came across a record that just 
made me wonder (these are the basics, not finite details because I 
didn't write them down): The bride and groom were both surnamed 
Ramirez; the groom was 24 years old; the bride was a 40-something 
widow; the bride was the sister of the groom's father. Has anyone 
else come across a similar record/situation? I wonder what the story 
is? I know that this isn't exactly what this board is for - but just 
thought I'd share a "research" experience.
Natalie

Hello, I, too, am new to the group.

My Great Grandmother was Demetria Olague born in 1888 in Torreon, 
Coahuila, married 'Jose MIGUEL PACHECO Garcia' on Aug. 1, 1911 in
Torreon, Coahuila.  My Great Grandfather Miguel Pacheco was born in 
Valparaiso and is the son of Bruno PACHECO Galicia(b.1855) & Cesarea 
GARCIA Arroyo(b.1858) born and married in Valparaiso, Zacatecas.

Demetria is the daughter of Eufemio Olague & Ysabel Gomez and was 
christen in Jerez De Garcia Salinas, Zacatecas.  My Pacheco Garcia 
line from records found show Valparaiso, Zacatecas.  Cesarea's 
parents Marcial Garcia (b.1832) & Maria Del Refugio Arroyo (b.1832) 
were born & married in Valparaiso, Zacatecas.

Do any of these names sound familiar? Have been unable to find any 
additional linking info on the OLAGUE's. Have heard through family 
that Demetria had a brother but no one knows his name and have been 
unable to make a connection.

My great grandparents Miguel & Demetria migrated sometime during 
1911 to Redondo Beach, California where my grandmother 'Mary 
Pacheco' was born in 1912. Where some of our family still resides to 
this day.  

Thanks!
Sonya
Anaheim, CA


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilia" <auntyemfaustus@h...> wrote:
> 
> Hello, I am new to the group.
> 
> My father was Guadalupe Olague born in Jerez on Jan. 28, 1903. He 
> died in Sept 1966 in San Jose, CA.   His father was Francisco 
Olague 
> (born around 1874 in Jerez or Tepetongo and died in Brush, 
Colorado 
> on May 9, 1943) and his mother was Gorgonia Garcia who died in 
Jerez 
> around the turn of the last century.  Francisco's father was Pedro 
> Olague.  His mother was Rafaela Tinajero (born about 1838 in Jerez 
or 
> Tepetongo and died in Brush Colorado on April 14, 1941).  Pedro 
and 
> Rafaela were married in Tepetongo on March 21, 1863.  Pedro's 
father 
> was Santiago Olague and his mother was Eduviges Suriano.  
Rafaela's 
> father was Hilario Tinajero and her mother was Teodosia Flores.  
> Gorgonia's father was Ignacio Garcia and her mother was Maria 
> Guadalupe Rodriguez.
> 
> I am 65 years old, was born in Brush Colorado, and we are 
retired.  
> We moved from Silicon Valley to Washington State in 1996.
> 
> Hoping to make a connection,
> 
>      Emilie
>       Port Orchard, WA.

Well it's one month away from Axe Time and I've narrowed the field down
to an Unlucky 13 members. I've been in private email with this group and
believe that when it is said and done the list will only be about 5-8. I
am very happy that so few are on the list.

in the meantime the sparks are flying as I sharpen and sharpen and
sharpen. . . .

joseph the Axe

Well I am going to have to find a map of zacatecas and look at how far these
places are from each other. I only know that we have family in El Teul and
Florencia Zacatecas, but I am not ruling out any surrounding areas until I
know for sure.

Hi Gloria,
No that's all the information I have.  Did you look at my file for Correa?
Most of my Correa's are from the Tepechitlan, Zacatecas,
Area, although later my great-grandmother Maria was born in Tlaltenango.
Good luck!
Peggy

-----Original Message-----
From: glo Sandoval-Fuentes [mailto:gloriafuentes@...]
Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 11:47 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman


Peggy,

Do you have any other information on your Correa, my great grandmother was a
  Correa, all I know is that she married an Arellano, and they had my
grandmother who was
Maria Guadalupe Arellano she married my grandfather Martin Sandoval. They
had my Father Agapito Arellano Sandoval.

My dad was born February 27, 1927

The whole family is from Zacatecas, the only places I am sure of is:  El
Teul Zac and Florencia Zac.

I am planning a trip to sac april 15th and plan on a long visit with my Tia
while I am there. Hopefully she can fill in some more blanks for me.

If only I could find out more information on Correa and Arellano's.





               ~~glo~~






From: "Peggy Delgado" <peggydee@...>
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: RE: [ranchos] Re: Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman
Date: Fri, 11 Mar 2005 17:10:54 -0800

Hi Angie!
Yes, thanks to your help earlier last year, I was able to fill in some of
the Raigosa lines.

My Correa line is through my paternal great grandmother, Maria Correa, born
8/1891 in Tlaltenango.
Her mother was Maria Antonia Correa.  In the civil registry/birth record, it
was said that her father was "unknown', and that she would keep
Her maternal surname of Correa.  However in anther record, they DO list the
father as Runaldo Herrera who's parents were Pedro Herrera and Maria Lopez)

Maria Antonia Correa's parents were Eugenio Correa and Maria Jesus Dorado (I
forgot to put the "Dorado" name on my list) married in
5/1839 in Tepechitlan, Zacatecas, Mexico.  Eugenio was born in 1819 and
Maria Jesus Dorado in 1823, both in Tepechitlan.  Maria Jesus Dorado's
parents were
Franco Dorado and Venancia Estrada.  Eugenio's parents were Ygnacio Correa
and Juliana de la Torre, years not yet known.
They also had the following children:
Maria Ygnacia Correa, b 1821
Maria De La Trinidad Correa, b 1817
Maria Basilia Correa, b 1818
Maria Encarnacion, b 1823

Hello,

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Peggy,

Do you have any other information on your Correa, my great grandmother was a
Correa, all I know is that she married an Arellano, and they had my
grandmother who was
Maria Guadalupe Arellano she married my grandfather Martin Sandoval. They
had my Father Agapito Arellano Sandoval.

My dad was born February 27, 1927

The whole family is from Zacatecas, the only places I am sure of is: El
Teul Zac and Florencia Zac.

I am planning a trip to sac april 15th and plan on a long visit with my Tia
while I am there. Hopefully she can fill in some more blanks for me.

I have LOTS of family in sacramento.



              ~~glo~~






From: "Maria/Mark Uhlenburg" <uhlenburg@...>
Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: Re: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 07:35:26 -0800

I'm from Folsom, California, which is in the county of Sacramento.

Maria-Elena Uhlenburg-Gutierrez
  ----- Original Message -----
  From: glo Sandoval-Fuentes
  To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
  Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2005 3:14 PM
  Subject: RE: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?


  Southern California over here.



                 ~~glo~~






  From: Joseph Puentes <makas@...>
  Reply-To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
  To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
  Subject: [ranchos] Anyone else on the East Coast?
  Date: Wed, 09 Mar 2005 18:10:28 -0500

other than California I know that we have a member in VA, I'm in NC, you
in

  OH, and TX oh and UT and MA

  anyone else on the East Coast?

  joseph


  Carol Lester wrote:

>It is so exciting isn't it?!! As for a reunion, that would be grand!!!
I
>live in Ohio, however..and I am assuming a lot of the ranchos group live
in

  >California, and the surrounding states?
  >  Carol
  >
  >
  >-----Original Message-----
  >From: Joseph Puentes
  >Sent: Mar 9, 2005 2:54 AM
  >To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
  >Subject: Re: [ranchos] Re: Campos/Soto Family
  >
  >Familia. . .la Familia esta Reunida!
  >

>what joy. . .congratulations you all. . .when is the party? Am I
invited? I

  >might be in CA in August. Long Beach again for a Diaz-Roman reunion.
  >
  >joseph
  >
  >
  >Carol Lester wrote:
  >
  >>Hello right back to you also!!  I just posted a reply to Angie on the
  >>mesage board.   There are many other names that are in her files that I

>>also have in mine. I have not put them all into a genealogy report
form
>>as yet, but I do have the records!! And YES!!!, I definately want all
the

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Hi Edward,
	The Quinta Real in Zacatecas is beautiful.  It was once a Bull Ring,
but you probably already knew that. I was there only for the day, but I
checked it out with my tia and primas.  It was very cool because they have
built shops into it, a restaurant, etc.,  The center which is where the
bulls ran, is a huge beautiful, outdoor plaza for receptions. The entire
city is gorgeous.  The Spanish colonial presence is very real in this city
with rod iron rejas & balconies.  There is a wonderful museum on the Mexican
Revolution which is definitely worthwhile.  There is a display of currency
from that time period too.  There is an old convent built during the Spanish
reign which is missing it's ceiling due to the Mexican Revolution.  Can't
say enough!
	Zacatecas to Aguascalientes is quite a distance.  I went two years
ago, and the trip was essentially a day trip.  I would stay in both cities.
Aguascalientes is another worthwhile city to visit.  There is a lot of
history there as well.  Calle Madera has the most gorgeus old homes. In
April is the upcoming Feria de San Marcos.
Irma

-----Original Message-----
From: Victor Villarreal [mailto:vela_este@...] 
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2005 9:53 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Re: Zacatecas travel



Ed,

Here's a list of links with some information about your destinations. 
As you can see, Colotlán is not listed on the internet but I found the name
of some local hotels.  Depending on who's travelling with you and if you're
in adventurer mode or not, maybe it is better to make plans to stay
somewhere else when visiting Colotlán.

Zacatecas, Zacatecas
http://www.zonaturistica.com/hoteles-mexico.php?idCd=617

Valparaiso, Zacatecas
http://www.zonaturistica.com/hoteles-mexico.php?idCd=615

Sombrerete, Zacatecas
http://www.zonaturistica.com/hoteles-mexico.php?idCd=613

Colotán, Jalisco
  Hotel Hacienda de los Gálvez
  Hotel Colotlán
  Hotel San Luis

Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes
http://www.zonaturistica.com/hoteles-mexico.php?idCd=1

Last year I travelled to Zacatecas and Jalisco, but not exactly the same

Hola-I am Raul Felix, son of Leonardo Felix/Guadalupe Flores. I am originally from delano, California with Felix lineage in Jerez, Zac. My grandmother, Antonia Fernandez married Simon Felix and later Trinidad Felix who became my grandfather...all fom Jerez. I have a birth doc. that says the father of Trinidad was Tomas Felix. Personal events at present prevent me from going into further detail at present but maybe we can explore this later on to see if there is a Felix connection somewhere?/Adelante 

-----Original Message-----
From: Emilia <auntyemfaustus@...>
Sent: Mar 14, 2005 6:24 PM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Reveles-Acevedo-Felix of Jerez and Tepetongo, Zacatecas



Hello,

I am new to the group.  I am doing research for a friend of mine who 
lives in San Diego.

His grandfather was Nicolas Reveles who was born on Dec 6, 1878 in 
Jerez.  He died in Los Angeles CA on Dec 31, 1947.  His first wife 
was Carmen Velasquez.  They were married in June 1902.  She died 
around 1905 in Jerez.  Nicolas' father was Francisco Reveles (born 
about 1852) in Tepetongo.  His mother was Petra Acevedo (born about 
1856) in Tepetongo.  Francisco's father was Leandro Reveles (born 
around 1835, died June 8, 1901).  His mother was Tomasa Felix.  
Petra's father was Diego Acevedo, her mother was Eduviges Perez.

Hoping to make a connection,

     Emilie
        Port Orchard, WA.







 
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Ed,

Here's a list of links with some information about your destinations. 
As you can see, Colotlán is not listed on the internet but I found 
the name of some local hotels.  Depending on who's travelling with 
you and if you're in adventurer mode or not, maybe it is better to 
make plans to stay somewhere else when visiting Colotlán.

Zacatecas, Zacatecas
http://www.zonaturistica.com/hoteles-mexico.php?idCd=617

Valparaiso, Zacatecas
http://www.zonaturistica.com/hoteles-mexico.php?idCd=615

Sombrerete, Zacatecas
http://www.zonaturistica.com/hoteles-mexico.php?idCd=613

Colotán, Jalisco
  Hotel Hacienda de los Gálvez
  Hotel Colotlán
  Hotel San Luis

Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes  
http://www.zonaturistica.com/hoteles-mexico.php?idCd=1

Last year I travelled to Zacatecas and Jalisco, but not exactly the 
same towns you're planning on visiting. In Zacatecas, Zac. there are 
many options available.  The smaller towns have fewer options and you 
have to be prepared for the very basic hotel accomodations.

Some important and friendly recommendations:  

plan your itinerary very carefully;  know your point A, point B, 
etc.; carry a good map.

travel only by day;  roads are narrow with few signs; watch for speed 
bumps in every town.

check your fuel level often; there aren't many gas stations as you're 
accustomed to.

pay with pesos;  small denomination is preferable.

drink bottled water. (But everyone knows that, right?)

keep a low profile; try to blend as much as possible;  leave your 
jewelry at home.

take your cel phone; charge your battery;  have at hand a list of 
numbers from your contacts. (service is not available everywhere, 
though)

Victor

p.s. If I think of something else I'll let you know.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Edward  Serros <ed@s...> wrote:
> I am planning to go to Zacatecas in four weeks. My original plan 
was to stay
> in Zacatecas, Zacatecas (Quinta Real Zacatecas Hotel) as a base, 
traveling
> on day trips to Valparaiso, Sombrerete, Colotlan, and 
Aguascalientes. I
> would appreciate any comments on alternative accomodations, 
alternative

Emilie, welcome to our group.  Hey, I'm also from the
Garcia de la Cadena from Jerez, Zacatecas.  

Alberto Duarte Prieto

--- Emilia <auntyemfaustus@...> wrote:
> 
> Hello, I am new to the group.
> 
> My father was Guadalupe Olague born in Jerez on Jan.
> 28, 1903. He 
> died in Sept 1966 in San Jose, CA.   His father was
> Francisco Olague 
> (born around 1874 in Jerez or Tepetongo and died in
> Brush, Colorado 
> on May 9, 1943) and his mother was Gorgonia Garcia
> who died in Jerez 
> around the turn of the last century.  Francisco's
> father was Pedro 
> Olague.  His mother was Rafaela Tinajero (born about
> 1838 in Jerez or 
> Tepetongo and died in Brush Colorado on April 14,
> 1941).  Pedro and 
> Rafaela were married in Tepetongo on March 21, 1863.
>  Pedro's father 
> was Santiago Olague and his mother was Eduviges
> Suriano.  Rafaela's 
> father was Hilario Tinajero and her mother was
> Teodosia Flores.  
> Gorgonia's father was Ignacio Garcia and her mother
> was Maria 
> Guadalupe Rodriguez.
> 
> I am 65 years old, was born in Brush Colorado, and
> we are retired.  
> We moved from Silicon Valley to Washington State in
> 1996.
> 
> Hoping to make a connection,
> 
>      Emilie
>       Port Orchard, WA. 
> 
> 
> 
> 


		
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I am planning to go to Zacatecas in four weeks. My original plan was to stay in Zacatecas, Zacatecas (Quinta Real Zacatecas Hotel) as a base, traveling on day trips to Valparaiso, Sombrerete, Colotlan, and Aguascalientes. I would appreciate any comments on alternative accomodations, alternative towns I can use a base, local hotels, rental cars, or guides. Actually the Quinta Real Zacatecas, sounds like a neat place.



Maybe some of you have traveled there. I have never seen much of Mexico except the tourist resort spots or the border towns.



Thank you,



Ed Serros.

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Hello, I am new to the group.

My father was Guadalupe Olague born in Jerez on Jan. 28, 1903. He 
died in Sept 1966 in San Jose, CA.   His father was Francisco Olague 
(born around 1874 in Jerez or Tepetongo and died in Brush, Colorado 
on May 9, 1943) and his mother was Gorgonia Garcia who died in Jerez 
around the turn of the last century.  Francisco's father was Pedro 
Olague.  His mother was Rafaela Tinajero (born about 1838 in Jerez or 
Tepetongo and died in Brush Colorado on April 14, 1941).  Pedro and 
Rafaela were married in Tepetongo on March 21, 1863.  Pedro's father 
was Santiago Olague and his mother was Eduviges Suriano.  Rafaela's 
father was Hilario Tinajero and her mother was Teodosia Flores.  
Gorgonia's father was Ignacio Garcia and her mother was Maria 
Guadalupe Rodriguez.

I am 65 years old, was born in Brush Colorado, and we are retired.  
We moved from Silicon Valley to Washington State in 1996.

Hoping to make a connection,

     Emilie
      Port Orchard, WA. 

Hello, I am new to the group.

Most of my maternal lines hail from the 400 year old gene pool of el 
Reino de Nuevo Mexico (up and down the Rio Grande from Taos to 
Juarez), but I recently traced one line back to Nochistlan and 
Mexticacan in Jalisco.  

My g-g-g-g grand-parents were Jose Andres Felix Yanez and Paula 
Josefa Lopez of la Hacienda de los Delgadillos en el Pueblo de 
Nochistlan.  Their son Jose Pablo Nanes (born at that Hacienda in 
Nochistlan around 1788) married Ma. del Carmen Ramona Membrila in 
Juarez on April 27, 1822.  Andres and Paula had other children born 
in Mexticacan.

Hoping to make a connection,

    Emilie
      Port Orchard, WA.

     

Hello,

I am new to the group.  I am doing research for a friend of mine who 
lives in San Diego.

His grandfather was Nicolas Reveles who was born on Dec 6, 1878 in 
Jerez.  He died in Los Angeles CA on Dec 31, 1947.  His first wife 
was Carmen Velasquez.  They were married in June 1902.  She died 
around 1905 in Jerez.  Nicolas' father was Francisco Reveles (born 
about 1852) in Tepetongo.  His mother was Petra Acevedo (born about 
1856) in Tepetongo.  Francisco's father was Leandro Reveles (born 
around 1835, died June 8, 1901).  His mother was Tomasa Felix.  
Petra's father was Diego Acevedo, her mother was Eduviges Perez.

Hoping to make a connection,

     Emilie
        Port Orchard, WA.

I am new to the group.

I am researching my husband's ancestors.  HIs great-grandfather was 
Simon Garcia who was born in Enc. de Diaz, Jalisco on Oct. 28, 1864.  
He died in Los Angeles CA in 1930.  His father was Estanislado Garcia 
(born about 1825)his mother was Antonia Ornelas.  Antonia is listed 
as "Hija natural de Ramona Ornelas".  Estanislado's father was Jose 
Maria Garcia (born about 1797) and his mother was Gregoria Morones 
(born about 1792).  They were married on June 10, 1818.  Jose Maria's 
father was Jph. Cayetano Garcia, his mother was Anacleta Calzada.  
They were married on Oct. 5, 1791.  Gregoria's father was Trinidad 
Morones, her mother was Ygnacia Gonzales.

I am 65 years old, retired.  We moved to Washington State from 
Silicon Valley in 1996.

Hoping to make a connection,

    Emilie
     Port Orchard WA.