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If the books include a list or index of surnames, sharing it would be greatly appreciated.   Thanks so much,  Alice is provided

--- On Thu, 7/15/10, mendezdelcamino@live.com wrote:

From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Libros
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, July 15, 2010, 9:04 PM

COmpre hace unos dias los libros La familia Rincón Gallardo y su latifundio de Ciénega de Mata, 1593-1740. Por Jesús Gómez Serrano. Con la colaboración de Francisco Javier Delgado Aguilar y Las Familia mas antiguas de Mexico y los Titulos de Castilla en Indias. Los ordene de Europa, no puedia contrar copias en los EEUU
o Mexico. Estos libros estan "Out of print" y son muy preciados, aun cuando los recibo si alguien quiere un lookup de algo digamelo. Debe llegar en una semana.

Daniel Mendez de Camino

What time period did that take place? The following is the only result that comes close to matching using anyone of the surnames or combination of them.

Groom's Name: Jose Luis Macias Valadez
Groom's Birth Date: 1810
Groom's Age: 22
Bride's Name: Maria Ysidora Ruis De Esparza
Bride's Birth Date: 1814
Bride's Age: 18
Marriage Date: 13 Jun 1832
Marriage Place: Cienega De Mata,Ojuelos,Jalisco,Mexico
Groom's Father's Name: Juan Jose Macias Valades
Groom's Mother's Name: Maria Nepomuceno Navarro
Bride's Father's Name: Domingo Ruis De Esparza
Bride's Mother's Name: Juana Maria Valadez
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M60232-7
System Origin: Mexico-ODM
Source Film Number: 641017
Collection: Mexico Marriages, 1570-1950
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=recordima…

Armando

Yes, thank you.

Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon

> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 14:57:56 +0000
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] matrimonio de Rafael Romo y Maria de la LuzAlonso
>
> Daniel,
>
> Did you receive the scanned Record I e-mailed to you yesterday afternoon?
>
> Paul Gomez
> Rancho Cucamonga, CA
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> From: Daniel Mendez de Camino
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> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] matrimonio de Rafael Romo y Maria de la LuzAlonso
> Sent: Jul 15, 2010 7:53 AM
>
>
> this is cool, you can see Rafael's signature and others.
>
>
> Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon
>
>
>
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> > To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > From: migueltran@gmail.com
> > Date: Thu, 15 Jul 2010 06:15:57 -0700
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] matrimonio de Rafael Romo y Maria de la Luz Alonso
>

I'm wondering if Daniel has a virus.  His messages are coming in unreadable in a
script that looks like symbols.

Linda in Marietta

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From: Emilie Garcia
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wed, July 14, 2010 10:04:44 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] SPAM?

Arturo and Jospeh:

Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re: [SPAM]Re:

I am getting in the heading of messages the word SPAM.  Why is that?  They seem
to be just regular messages from known members of the group.

Also, my computer had a pop-up that said that malicious script was coming in,
then I had all these messages from Nuestros Ranchos that I thought I had seen
before.  Was that related to the SPAM?

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA
                       

La informacion que dieron el 2 de abril de 1774 para contraer matrimonio se encuentra en las paginas 149,150 y 151 del libro "informacion matrimonial, 1774"

Miguel Beltran

Hi Paul,

Manuel Rafael ROmo de Vivar did not marry in Aguascalientes he married in Encarnacion de Diaz, I think

thats why you cant find the record. Eventhough you donthave a copy the parents of Manuel Rafael

were Miguel Romo de Vivar and MAria Rosa Eugenia de Aranda who married 18 Oct 1740 in Cienega

de Mata, Jalisco. I havent looked up this marriage so this is as far as I can help. If you do order it,

could you share that information with me? What I do know is that Miguel Romo was from aguas and

Eugenia was from Lagos. The parents of your Maria de la Luz Alonso de los Hinojos were Antonio

Alonso de los Hinojos and Maria de los Dolores Lopez. MAnuel and Luz were related as I can see,

you could also look for a dispensa, although worth it, it make take a long time,

I have not found any info on these last

guys, I might have a potential candidate as to the parents of Antonio (based on location and

time frame) but with no marriage its not for sure.) Let me know what you find

Wait, Ana and Marina are sisters. They both used their mothers name

MAcias Valadez. MArina was maried to Eusevio de Mata y Rebollar

while Ana was married to Cristobal de Santos Bustos.

Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> Date: Wed, 14 Jul 2010 13:53:39 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Marina Rendon
>
> I found the Death Record for "Marina Rendon", 09 Dec 1775 in Aguascalentes. She was 54 years of age. Her name is recorded as"Anna". The parents are correct: Bartholome Rendon and Maria Macias Valades. The Record indicates that she was the Widow of Christobal de Santos y Busto. If it is the same "Marina/Anna", my information was that she married to Eusebio de Maya y Rebollar. Any ideas are welcome.
>

dont have too much info but PEREZ DE LA BASTIDA is a compound name formed when

Diego Perez married Luisa de la Bastida in Mexico City. They at least had three children

Garcia PEREZ DE LA BASTIDA and DIEGO PEREZ DE LA BASTIDA, baptized 5 JUNE 1573

and 18 DEC 1571 both in the parish of SANTA CATARINA MARTIR. in MEXICO CITY.

They had a daughter named Leonor who married N. on 12 aug 1593 in SANTA VERACRUZ,

MEXICO CITY. Hope this helps?

Regards,

Daniel

> From: angelina@markleweb.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Sun, 11 Jul 2010 09:58:51 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] My Brick Wall
>
> I was wondering if anyone has any info on this couple or family. I believe that my 5th g-grandfather Francisco Sotomayor was their son. His marriage record to Anna Gertrudis Mendez showed his parents as Diego Soto and Maria Lorensa Peres ..... also he used several surnames on various family documents - always paired with Anna Gertrudis Mendez - these were Soto, Sala y

I have no way of knowing if this is your Timoteo Reveles but the baptism date for him makes him a candidate for your Timoteo.  You will need to order the film to confirm it. 
good luck, Linda in Marietta

baptism 25 Aug 1867 in Jerez
Timoteo born in Ojo de Agua 22 Aug 1867 4am
parents: Julio Reveles and Atilana Santiago
pat grn: Leandro Reveles and Gertrudis Soto
mat grn: Calixto de Santiago and Josefa de los Santos
pad: Timoteo Castano and Amadora Hernandez
Source Information:
Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type:
J600809 1867 - 1869 0439852 Jerez baptism

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From: "BPerk930@aol.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sun, June 20, 2010 2:18:28 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Reveles in Jerez de Garcia Salinas

Using the Family History pilot site [I haven't checked the microfilm yet], 
I found Miguel Reveles born Sep 29, 1896, and baptized in Parroquia de la 
Inmaculada Concepción, Jerez de Garcia Salinas.  His

They also had Maria Antonia who died
28 Jul 1732 and should have been born 1717.

Marina was baptized 14 jun 1721 in Aguascalientes.

Even if we were to find the marriage record it would not list

the parents of Bartolome they should have married after 1700

by 1701 the priest does not mention parents until 1724

or so.

Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:22:53 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Bartholome de Rendon = Maria Macias Valdes
>
> Can anyone help me with this couple? Bartholome died on 07 Jan 1728 in Aguascalientes, and he and Maria Macias Valdes had at least two children: Marina Rendon, and Joquin Rendon. They are my maternal 6th Great Grandparents.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Paul Gomez

I want to say he is GOMEZ RENDON, but there is no proof, the Rendon family, theres only

one I know of GOMEZ RENDON from Teocaltiche and Aguascalientes. These guys

also had a ANA MACIAS VALADEZ (she used her moms name) who married Cristobal

de SANTOS BUSTOS they had several kids and at least two grandkids.

Daniel Mendez de Camino y Garcia de Leon

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> Date: Tue, 13 Jul 2010 22:22:53 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Bartholome de Rendon = Maria Macias Valdes
>
> Can anyone help me with this couple? Bartholome died on 07 Jan 1728 in Aguascalientes, and he and Maria Macias Valdes had at least two children: Marina Rendon, and Joquin Rendon. They are my maternal 6th Great Grandparents.
>
> Thank you.
>
> Paul Gomez

Do you know when another geographical part of Nueva Galicia specifically, Nayarit, will be online?
------Original Message------
From: Daniel Mendez de Camino
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] PILOT SITE UPDATE
Sent: Jul 12, 2010 10:24 AM

The records for the state of Hidalgo (church records) are now online.

http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/s/search/index/record-search-advanced#se…

Groom name
Juan Antonio Guerra

Bride name
Maria De Sor. San Joseph Gonzales

Marriage date
04 Feb 1773

Marriage place
Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico

Batch number
M60418-5

Record group
Mexico-ODM

Film number
221516>
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Groom name
Diego Guerra

Bride name
Maria De La Trenidad

Marriage date
08 Jan 1772

Marriage place
Santa Maria De Los Lagos,Lagos De Moreno,Jalisco,Mexico

Batch number
M60418-5

Record group
Mexico-ODM

Film number
221516

Jose De Los Dolores Felipe Santiago Guerra Gonzales
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#searchType=close&…
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Como es Diego Guerra pariente de Juan Antonio Guerra? nieto?

Daniel

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: pattyharo@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 10:16:44 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gonzalez Guerra ó Guerra Gonzalez en Lagos de Moreno
>
> Hola,
> Necesito ayuda para encontrar a mis ancestros, alguien tiene información sobre los Guerra de Lagos de Moreno o Union de San Antonio?
>
> He logrado rastrear desde mi tataraabuelo Salvador Gonzalez Guerra nacido 21 de octubre 1845, hijo de Jose Epifanio Gonzalez y Ana Antonia Guerra casados alrededor de 1844.
> Epifanio Gonzalez, hijo de Rafael Gonzalez y Cesarea Moreno casados en 1784
> Ana Antonia Guerra, hija de Santiago Guerra y Juana Gertrudis Guerra
> Santiago Guerra, bautismo 14 de mayo 1780, hijo de Diego Guerra y Trinidad Gonzalez.
> Juana Gertrudis Guerra, hija de Juan Antonio Guerra y Maria de San Jose Gonzalez
>
>
> Alguien me podría ayudar por favor con mas sobre los Guerra y los Gonzalez de

Hola Marta,

Usando http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=home hago busquedas de bautismos usando Birth en Event, Jalisco, Mexico en Location, solamente el apellido paterno en Father, solamente el apellido materno en Mother y Exact and Close Match porque pueden variar mucho las letras ej. Gonzalez/Gonsales. Eso me da resultados de los hermanos de una persona aparte de la persona que busco. Tambien me da resultados sin importar el pueblo. Para las busquedas de matrimonio pongo solo el apellido del los dos, Marriage en evento, y Jalisco, Mexico en Location. Eso no me ha servido igual con http://fsbeta.familysearch.org/

Name: Maria Agapita Juana Nepomucena Antonia Guerra Guerra
Baptism/Christening Date: 17 Mar 1817
Baptism/Christening Place: UNION DE SAN ANTONIO,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name: Jose Santiago Guerra Gonsales
Mother's Name: Juana Gertrudis Guerra Gonsales
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Juan Antonio Guerra De San Roman
Maternal Grandmother's name: Maria De San

Es posible que localizo algo de Lagos de Moreno, ya que Diego Romo de Vivar

era un fundador de Lagos de Moreno. Tambien se debe reconocer que el

apellido compuesto ROMO DE VIVAR es muy limitado el Vivar es mas comun,

pero ROMO es que esta limitado a solo una rama. Voy a buscar en PARES

pero si se sabia que ya era de Rielves en los Reynos de Toledo. Aver que encuentro.

Daniel

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Thu, 8 Jul 2010 14:35:13 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Diego Romo de Vivar
>
> Tengo una inquietud en cuanto al genearca del apellido "Romo de Vivar", Diego, esposo de María Rangel...
>
> Creo que todos tomamos como un hecho que se trata del mismo Diego el esposo de Maria Rangel y el Diego Romo del que Mariano Gonzalez-Leal localizo partida de bautismo en Rielves, Toledo, España, de fecha 12 de marzo de 1589, hijo de Diego Romo y Catalina Perez.
> Desconozco si existe algun documento que pruebe que es la misma

Hola Miguel,

Estoy muy interesado en obtener una copia del libro mencionado. Como vivo
en los EE.UU. te agradecería cualquier ayuda para conseguirlo. Muchas
gracias de antemano.

Saludos

BILL FIGUEROA

----- Original Message -----
From:
To:
Sent: Monday, July 05, 2010 12:36 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Libro "Bautismos,matrimonios y defunciones en el
primer siglo de Santa Maria de LosLagos"- Mario Gomez

Si a alguno de ustedes le interesa comprar este libro, que contiene todos
los registros sacramentales de la villa de Lagos hasta el año en que cumple
una centuria de fundada, ademas de importantes anotaciones, se los puedo
conseguir;contactenme.

Im interested! THanks,

Un Saludo,

Daniel Mendez

To learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

please visit www.mormon.org

> To: announce@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: migueltran@gmail.com
> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 10:36:55 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Libro "Bautismos, matrimonios y defunciones en el primer siglo de Santa Maria de Los Lagos"- Mario Gomez
>
> Si a alguno de ustedes le interesa comprar este libro, que contiene todos los registros sacramentales de la villa de Lagos hasta el año en que cumple una centuria de fundada, ademas de importantes anotaciones, se los puedo conseguir;contactenme.
> _______________________________________________________________________
>
> If any of you are interested in this book, which contains all the sacramental records of the town of Lagos until it reaches a century after its foundation, in addition to important notes, I can get. contact me

Gracias

Sergio Gutierrez

En cuanto sale el libro? No sabe donde puede estar en venta en Lagos de Moreno? Voy a vistar a Lagos durante mi vaciones en Agosto.
Sergio Gutierrez

Sergio,

The best bookstore in Guadalajara that I have found is Libreria Cervantes.
The proprietor, Alberto Cervantes García, is very knowledgeable and helpful
in finding the type of books we are interested in. He sells both new and
used books and the bookstore is centrally located. I visited 5 or 6 other
bookstores, including the University (UDG) bookstore, and found Librería
Cervantes had one of the books I had been looking for--an out of print book
published in 1972. The address and phone number are: Av. Juarez No. 582-A,
Guadalajara, Jal. Tel. 36-13-99-12

Librería Porrúa (which is like the Borders Bookstore of México) has several
branches in Guadalajara. Here is the link that lists all the branches in
Guadalajara: http://porrua.com/tienda_sucursales.asp?Edo=14.

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La mejor libreria que yo he encontrado en Guadalajara es la Librería
Cervantes. El propietario, Alberto

Sergio:

Las librerias del Fondo de Cultura Economica son muy buenas, especialmente para libros de historia, sociologia, etc. La sucursal de Guadalajara queda en:

Av. Chapultepec Sur 198, Col. Americana, C.P. 44310, Guadalajara, Jalisco.
Teléfono(s): (0133) 36 15 12 14 con 7 líneas
Horario: Lunes a sábado de 9:00 a 21:00 hrs.
Contacto: Enedina Reyes Benicio, Ma. del Carmen Arreaga.

http://www.libreriasdelfondo.com/LF_LibreriasFondo2.asp

Hay una cadena de librerias muy buena en Mexico llamada Librerias Gandhi...

http://www.gandhi.com.mx/index.cfm/id/Categoria/source/libros/cid/1208

Creo que el Colegio de Jalisco, que publica muchos libros sobre el tema tambien tiene una libreria que valdria la pena, pero no puedo encontrar la informacion sobre su ubicacion.

Están la librerias de la Secretaria de Cultura de Jalisco
Buscalas en WWW.JALISCO.GOB.MX

Inicio > Gobierno > Dependencias > Secretaría de Cultura > Servicios Especializados > Librerías de Secretaría de Cultura >

Miguel Beltran

She probably is....would not be suprised. But we need to verify through

documentation..it looks like this is a "natural" line or illigitmate where the

father is not listed. The only way now is just to look for other documents

such as the death record.

Daniel

To learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints

please visit www.mormon.org

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: gpf13@aol.com
> Date: Sat, 3 Jul 2010 10:15:42 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Maria Ignacia Alonzo
>
> Maria Ignacia Alonzo was the mother of Andres Alonzo; his father is not named in the documents I've found. Andres married Maria Josefa Teresa de Jesus Sandoval, 8 Jan 1810 (Aguascalientes), and according to the marriage records (marriage certificate and matrimonial investigation) was born about 1789, in Aguascalientes. The matrimonial investigation names only his mother and not his father.
>
> I have not been able to find a baptismal record for Andres.
>
> There is

Hi, my name is Roberto Santa Cruz. But my grand grand father was born in Aguascalientes, near San Juan de los Lagos. He married with María Rodríguez and had the following sons: Florencio, Rafael, Esteban and Josefina. My grand father was Esteban. He was born in 1907 in Aguascalientes, but the familiy have rooths probably in Perú or Spain.

Thanks

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: mendezdelcamino@live.com
> Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2010 11:33:00 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] The Santa Cruz y Orozco family
>
> I found documentation proving the Santa Cruz familiy and Santa Cruz y Orozco families are one in the same a some switched the names around like
> de ORozco y Santa Cruz. A branch eventually made it to San Juan de los LAgos
> and Jalostotitlan.
>
> Daniel

To learn more about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saintsplease visit www.mormon.org

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: paul.gomez@verizon.net
> Date: Thu, 1 Jul 2010 19:55:27 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Joseph Andres ALONZO = Maria Rafaela ROMO
>
> I am researching the above referenced family. They are my maternal (PENA) 3rd GG's. Joseph Andres was born 30 Nov 1771 in Estanzuela, Aguascalientes, Aguascalientes, MX. They were married 10 Feb 1802 in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco, MX. I have discovered six children:
>
> l. Joseph Prudencio, Bap. 21 Nov 1802 Encarnacion de Diaz
> 2. Maria de la Ascencion = Pablo Gonzales, Bap.(Maria) 28 May 1805 Encarnacion 3. Juan Jose, Bap. 28 Jun 1807 Estanzuela, Aguascalientes
> 4. Jose Ynes, 03 May 1815 Encarnacion de Diaz
> 5. Similiano Alonzo, 13 Jan 1818 Encarnacion de Diaz
> 6. Jose Quirino = Petra de la Paz Bap. (Jose Q.) 11 Jan 1823 Encarnacion de Diaz
>
> Any sharing of infomation regarding this

de http://pilot.familysearch.org/

Name: Jose Quirino Alonso Romo
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 11 Jan 1823
Baptism/Christening Place: La Encarnacion, Encarnacion De Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Andres Alonso
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Maria Rafaela Romo
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Paternal Grandfather's Name: Ysidro Alonso
Paternal Grandmother's Name: Anica De Mata
Maternal Grandfather's Name: Rafael Romo
Maternal Grandmother's name: Maria De La Luz Alonso
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C60269-7
System Origin: Mexico-EASy
Source Film Number: 1155174
Reference Number:
Collection: Mexico Baptisms, 1560-1950

Name: Joseph Prudensio Alonso
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 21 Nov 1802
Baptism/Christening Place: La Encarnación, Encarnación de Diaz, Jalisco, Mexico
Birth Date:
Birthplace: Estansuela
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Andres Alonso
Father's