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Salvatore Zermeño born circa 1900 either in Leon, Gto. or San Julian, Jal.

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Just want to let everyone who gets email from Nuestros Ranchos, that it has been infiltrated with a Spam sender.

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This person has been unsubscribed.

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tromero10@yahoo.com wrote:
> Just want to let everyone who gets email from Nuestros Ranchos, that
> it has been infiltrated with a Spam sender. I have received 2 emails
> from here and there's another one today with the title "terry acres".
> There is nothing written with the email, just a link.
> I hope the webmaster can put a stop to this send out as it keeps
> coming back with the NR forward as a legitimate member from NR.
> Thanks,
> Teri Romero

SPAM - on Nuestros Ranchos

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I received the same email last May 19, 2010 at 11:20 am. Do not click on
the link. The sender was VICENTE DE SAN MIGUEL castrosivicente@hotmail.com.
I suppose his real name is Vicente Castro S. Has anyone had correspondence
with this individual?

Bill Figueroa

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] SPAM - on Nuestros Ranchos

Just want to let everyone who gets email from Nuestros Ranchos, that it has
been infiltrated with a Spam sender. I have received 2 emails from here and
there's another one today with the title "terry acres". There is nothing
written with the email, just a link.

I hope the webmaster can put a stop to this send out as it keeps coming back
with the NR forward as a legitimate member from NR.

Thanks,
Teri Romero

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VICENTE DE SAN MIGUEL probably has a virus that infiltrated his email program. I doubt there was an infiltration of the site. This is the second round of recent spam linking to the same site. They probably have the same virus.

Armando

Cortez Alvarado

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I'm still searching for two marriage records if anyone can help

* Antonio Cortez Hernandez and Ma Manuela Alvarado Ortiz

* Jose Refugio Cortez and Alejandra Hernandez

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http://www.cpe.g12.br/home.php

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I believe I finally found my ancestors?! (The Villagrana's of Zacatecas)

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I had found a public family tree under the name De la Garza. I found a Felix Villagrana in this tree. If anyone here thinks they might me connected to these people here, let me know!

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Villa=gran

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Just today I was researching the 01/11/1790 marriage entry of Domingo Antonio Ruvio and Juana Maria Lisundia and it mentioned his father of the same name and his mother as Dona Maria Petra Villa=gran. It certainly appeared to be an equal sign, but I'm sure I was mistaken. If so, does anyone have any idea what it is? Thanks so much for your input, Alice

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If it was the last word at the right of the page, the scribe might have
thought he did not have space and then changed his mind and finished the
surname. Other than that I have no clue. I have a feeling I have seen
something similar before but cannot recall the instance.

Saludos desde Lago Salado (Salt Lake City, Utah)
Eduardo H Seoane
EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com

Villa=gran

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Hello Eduardo,
Thanks for the response. It wasn't the last word, but the "gran" segment was a bit lower than the rest of the line. Possibly, he accidently separated the surname thinking it was two different names and realized his mistake. It looks odd and unlike anything I've seen. Thanks again, Alice

--- On Tue, 5/18/10, Eduardo Seoane wrote:

From: Eduardo Seoane
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Villa=gran
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 9:38 PM

Saludos desde Lago Salado (Salt Lake City, Utah)
Eduardo H Seoane
EduardoHSeoane@gmail.com

Villa=gran

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Yes, I believe I've seen this before somewhere too and I agree with what you said about people thinking the name is spelled separately.

When I recently contacted a vital records office for my birth certificate, the clerk said they couldn't find me at first because somebody misspelled my surname as "Villa Grana". The clerk even thought Villa was my middle name when I gave my surname to her.

This happens a lot whenever I'm telling someone how to spell my surname...I have to break it down to them, especially in areas where people are not familiar with Spanish Surnames...I have to tell them "It's Villa, then Grana". I even think I've done the same thing of making an equal sign to show that something is really one word and not two!

-Alexis Villagrana

Villa=gran

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I have Villalpando in my family. I have found it written as Villa del Pando. I am positive that they are the same family as all the other information was the same.
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Yes, I believe I've seen this before somewhere too and I agree with what you said about people thinking the name is spelled separately.

This happens a lot whenever I'm telling someone how to spell my surname...I have to break it down to them, especially in areas where people are not familiar with Spanish

Why we do Genealogical Research

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Dear Nuestros Ranchos Members,

I just had to share this feel good story with those who would understand.

This morning after coming back from the Gym, I was making breakfast and the phone rang.

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Hello Alicia,
What a beautiful story. It's funny that we Americans have something so valuable to share with our families in Mexico. I had a similar thing happen to me. I was at my father's house, and he asked me who were his paternal grandmother's parents. Since he lost his mother at the age of 3, he never really knew this. He told me, "Luz asked me the other day, and I didn't know." I promptly told him, and he picked up the phone. He began talking with someone in Spanish who I thought was my sister, Lucy aka Ma de la Luz. Then he handed me the phone. There was a woman speaking Spanish on the line who I then realized was his older sister, Luz in Mexico. I was so touched that here the elders in the family were coming to me for information. A few weeks ago, my first cousin, Guero came for a visit from Aguascalientes. He told me that he had seen some of my charts that I had given his mother. He told me that she doesn't leave them out of her sight. I told him that I

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Irma,

Thanks for writing and it sounds like you've experienced this as well. It's so heartwarming to know that some other family members value their roots and their familial relations.

Maybe I'll make it to the next meeting, still not sure, too much going on in my life. Have to also live for the living.

Take Care,
Alicia

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Hi Alicia,

thank you for sharing that wonderful story with us.As I was reading it I realize that the person you were talking about is somehow related to me through the ruiz family from Jalpa,Zacatecas.I was wondering if you have his info so that we may touch ground in our research.

J.Guadalupe Jaime Chavez
--- On Sat, 5/8/10, Alicia Carrillo wrote:

From: Alicia Carrillo
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Why we do Genealogical Research
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Saturday, May 8, 2010, 12:28 PM

Dear Nuestros Ranchos Members,

I just had to share this feel good story with those who would understand.

This morning after coming back from the Gym, I was making breakfast and the phone rang. My Grandson answered the phone and it was someone speaking in Spanish to him, which is not all that unusual but he immediately passed it to me.

I answer and the man's voice says in spanish, eres Alicia and I say yes, he says, me llamo Rigoberto Ruiz y hablo de Jalpa Zacatecas. My

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Alicia--

I too have had many experiences like that with other descendants of my ancestors who live in the Southwest and California. I don't have any relations in Mexico, except Salvador and one other who are very distant---we share common ancestors from 10-15 generations ago.

What I love about those who contact me after seeing my information in Ancestry.com and other sites, is that I can help them correct their information and add to it, since most are not yet or might not ever be inclined to sit for hours viewing indexes and images, etc.

Ancestry.com is luring people who find it entertaining to only browse other people's trees and pick up information from there that might not really be about their particular ancestors. I tell them about the FHC's and the various Archives in the US, but I guess they are too busy, or like you said, they don't really care that much to do research, but they appreciate knowing what I find about their ancestors.

What they do for me in

Why we do Genealogical Research

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Thank you so much for sharing this story.
Everyone once in a while I feel like giving up this hobby, especially after some of the hate mail that I have received from people that do not like my research findings.
I guess my habit of checking other genealogists work and their sources have rubbed some, many, people, the wrong way. I started off in genealogy by using other genealogists work as a springboard when I started over 30 years ago. On other posts I have said over 20 years but I guess I forget how old I am getting.
Immediately after starting I found many mistakes. I started off just to correct what I assumed were just a few minor errors. It evolved into building my own body of work and assuming that I must check all lines that I had and not accept others people work without scrutiny.
It is nice to hear our work bring joy.
It is disheartening when people do not understand how much work goes into getting it right and disparage our results because it does not fit

Why we do Genealogical Research

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Did you tell your grandson HOW he is connected to Mr. Ruiz? Is your
mother still alive, and if she is, were you able to share this with her?

Last week I spoke to a first cousin's young daughter in Canada. I've
never met my cousin Louise, much less her daughter, Chelsea. We're
related on my mother (who was from Scotland)'s side. I've met
Louise's older brother and sisters. My mother took me and my older
sister, Lizzie, to Canada the last time when I was 6 and Lizzie was
7(and I had my 7th and Lizzie her 8th birthday there. I was able to
share with Chelsea a lot of oral history (for example, how even though
I have a Spanish first name, I am named after HER grandmother (my
mother's sister) who was named after HER own grandmother and who was
named after HER grandmother. I also sent her photographs of me and my
three sisters and a simplified linear chart showing in-common family
members and details that she'd never known about. But I also shared
information

Why we do Genealogical Research

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Great Story! Re-emphazies for me the importance of Family History. Thank you for sharing, Alicia.

Paul Gomez
Rancho Cucamonga, CA
Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry

-----Original Message-----
From: Alicia Carrillo
Date: Sat, 08 May 2010 10:28:10
To:
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Why we do Genealogical Research

Dear Nuestros Ranchos Members,

I just had to share this feel good story with those who would understand.

I answer and the man's voice says in spanish, eres Alicia and I say yes, he says, me llamo Rigoberto Ruiz y hablo de Jalpa Zacatecas. My mind is trying to register who is Rigoberto Ruiz. He then says, soy Primo hermano de tu mama y hablo para darte las Gracias. Translation is I'm your mother's first cousin and I'm calling from Jalpa

Why we do Genealogical Research

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Alicia - thank you so much for sharing this story - I brought tears to my
eyes.

-Angelina-

Why we do Genealogical Research

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What a great and inspiring story. We just never know the impact we are
making on those we share our roots with.

thanks Alicia for what you are doing for your family and what you are
doing for the nuestrosranchos.org group as our premiere volunteer
fighting spam from reaching our inboxes.

thanks,

joseph

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Alicia Carrillo wrote:
> Dear Nuestros Ranchos Members,
>
> I just had to share this feel good story with those who would understand.
>
> This morning after coming back from the Gym, I was making breakfast and the phone rang. My Grandson answered the phone

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Many members are currently subscribed to the mailing lists in the Digest
Mode. If someone just clicks "reply" and writes a bit of information and
then clicks "send" this will CAUSE PROBLEMS.

Cortez Alvarado

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I need help. The library where i go to get films will be unavalible for a couple of weeks I think they are remodeling not sure.

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Cortez Alvarado

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Maria, I have had great results with the following:

I secured a copy of the form "Request for Photocopies-Census Records, Book, Microfilm, or Microfiche. It is available at Family Search,org. However, last week I was unable to find the form, so I just did a Google Search..and there it appeared.

Since you have the batch and film numbers, all you need to do is fill out the form and send $2.00 USD, per copy. For the most part, I have received copies of the original document within two weeks.

I was told that their are many volunteers at the Family History Center, Photo duplication Unit, in Salt Lake, who respond to such request.

Helyn

--- On Tue, 5/18/10, maria.cortes@trin.net wrote:

From: maria.cortes@trin.net
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 7:27 AM

I need help. The library where i go to get films will be unavalible for a couple of weeks I think they are remodeling not sure. It will be

Cortez Alvarado

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maybe this is the right one..
Pomposo Ortiz delgado San Jose Ojuelos Jalisco..

bautiza 26 sep 1855 sus padres Tereso Ortiz y Francisca Delgado batch C606075 film 0639962

of course you need the copy of the marriage to Know... Lety R

>> >
> > Pomposo Ortiz and Apolonia Reyes
> > Marriage Oct 15- 1878
> > Batch #--M602507
> > Source#--640139
> > Ojuelos de Jalisco Mexico marriage dates 1867-1883
> >
> >
> > Andres Tinajero and Maximiana Lopez
> > Marriage Feb- 24- 1840
> > Batch #--M608934
> > Source #--644414
> > San Felipe Guanajuato marriage dates 1836-1843
> > -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
> > Nuestros Ranchos Research Mailing List
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Yes that is what I got also but the marriage will help me double chick this.

Maria Cortes (HRIS Administrator)
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Maria.Cortes@trin.net
Phone 214-589-8036
Fax 214-589-8810

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Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 4:46 PM
To: s s
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado

maybe this is the right one..
Pomposo Ortiz delgado San Jose Ojuelos Jalisco..

bautiza 26 sep 1855 sus padres Tereso Ortiz y Francisca Delgado batch C606075 film 0639962

of course you need the copy of the marriage to Know... Lety R

Cortez Alvarado

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> maybe this is the right one..
> Pomposo Ortiz delgado San Jose Ojuelos Jalisco..
>
> bautiza 26 sep 1855 sus padres Tereso Ortiz y Francisca Delgado batch C606075 film 0639962 their children:

Antonio Ortis Delgado 26 jan 1857

Crecencio Ortis Delgado 15 sep 1850

C602509 film C639962

José Tereso del Refugio Ortiz bautiza el 23 may 1832 batch C602503 film 0639960 sus padres Jose Maria Ortiz y Maria de la Merced Masias...they married the 17 apr 1822 in San Jose Ojuelos Jalisco M602505 film 0640137
>

1.
MARIA DEL PILAR ORTIZ MASIAS - International Genealogical Index - Mexico
Gender: Female Christening: 16 OCT 1837 Senor San Jose, Ojuelos, Jalisco, Mexico

2.
JOSE TEREZO DEL REFUGIO ORTIS MASIAS - International Genealogical Index - Mexico
Gender: Male Christening: 23 MAY 1832 Senor San Jose, Ojuelos, Jalisco, Mexico

3.
MARIA TELESFORA ORTIS MASIAS - International Genealogical Index - Mexico
Gender: Female Christening: 12 JAN 1835 Senor San Jose, Ojuelos, Jalisco

Cortez Alvarado

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--- On Tue, 5/18/10, maria.cortes@trin.net wrote:

From: maria.cortes@trin.net
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Tuesday, May 18, 2010, 7:27 AM

I need help. The library where i go to get films will be unavalible for a couple of weeks I think they are remodeling not sure. It will be

Cortez Alvarado

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They are now scanning the documents and e-mailing them; so, it should be
pretty quick once they start to work on the order.

Good luck Maria! I hope those are your people, I know you've been looking
for awhile.

Saludos,

Eduardo H Seoane

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Santos Luna wrote:

> Maria, I have had great results with the following:
>
> I secured a copy of the form "Request for Photocopies-Census Records, Book,
> Microfilm, or Microfiche. It is available at Family Search,org. However,
> last week I was unable to find the form, so I just did a Google Search..and
> there it appeared.
>
> Since you have the batch and film numbers, all you need to do is fill out
> the form and send $2.00 USD, per copy. For the most part, I have received
> copies of the original document within two weeks.
>
> I was told that their are many volunteers at the Family History Center,
> Photo duplication Unit, in Salt Lake, who respond to such request.
>
> Helyn
>
>
>
>
>
> --- On Tue, 5/18/10

Cortez Alvarado

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For my first time experience, I, too, have used this Form to request Records
from the FHL in Salt Lake City. I submitted by fax my requests for specific
sacramental records on 4 May 2010, so hopefully, they will be in my mailbox
soon.

Paul Gomez

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[mailto:research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of Eduardo
Seoane
Sent: Tuesday, May 18, 2010 10:25 AM
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Cortez Alvarado

They are now scanning the documents and e-mailing them; so, it should be
pretty quick once they start to work on the order.

Good luck Maria! I hope those are your people, I know you've been looking
for awhile.

Saludos,

Eduardo H Seoane

On Tue, May 18, 2010 at 10:22 AM, Santos Luna
wrote:

> Maria, I have had great results with the following:
>
> I secured a copy of the form "Request for Photocopies-Census Records,
Book,
> Microfilm, or Microfiche. It is available at

Look Up request - Teocaltiche Baptism 1711

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Does anyone have Film # 0634015, Baptisms, Nuestra Senora de los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco?

I sent a request to the main FHC in Salt Lake for a copy of the image of the baptism for:

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Emily

how do you ask for a photoduplication service at FHC? thanks Lety R

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Lety -- In the FamilySearch.org site, click on "research helps", then documents, then it gives you a list of documents or forms. Click on the document called Request for Photocopies IGI and you can print the form out. The instructions on how to complete the form, what it costs, where to send, etc. is on the form.

Emilie

> From: siriuslr@hotmail.com
> To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
> Date: Tue, 18 May 2010 10:32:08 -0500
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Look Up request - Teocaltiche Baptism 1711
>
>
> Emily
>
> how do you ask for a photoduplication service at FHC? thanks Lety R
>
>
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Research Digest, Vol 52, Issue 17

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My name is Ken Tejeda - listed in Topic Number 4 below - We are stuck on on Juan Tejeda, who was the father of Toribio Tejeda - see below. We have no clear data or date of birth on Juan Tejeda.

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Research Digest, Vol 52, Issue 17

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I don't know if you have looked at the información matrimonial for Juan and
Nicolasa. If you have not, then I would if I was in your shoes. It might
show who their parents were.
Información matrimonial 1860-1865 FHL INTL Film
639062

Additionally you might want to look at the christening records for all of
the children to show if the maternal and paternal grandparents are listed.
Make sure to look in the ecclesiastical and civil records. Some of the
children were born in the time when the civil records are available.
Ynocencia Tejeda
Enrriquez
[image: Four Stars] 30 December 1868
Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores,Teocaltiche,Jalisco,Mexico

Juan Tejeda
Nicolasa Enriquez
Mauricia Tejeda
Enriquez
[image: Four Stars] 30 September 1866
Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores, Teocaltiche, Jalisco, Mexico

Juan Tejeda
Nicolasa Enriquez
Maria Refugio Tejeda
Enrriquez
[image: Four Stars] 5 November 1871
Nuestra Senora De Los Dolores,Teocaltiche,Jalisco,Mexico

Juan Tejeda
Nicolasa Enriquez

Research Digest, Vol 52, Issue 17

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My ancestor Maria Jpha. Gertrudis Lugo y Tejeda is the daughter of Tomas Lugo and Maria Theresa Tejeda. She was from Teocaltiche but married in 1751 in Jalos to Jph Justo Silberio Gutierrez.
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-----Original Message-----
From: KEN TEJEDA
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 19:36:10
To:
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Digest, Vol 52, Issue 17

My name is Ken Tejeda - listed in Topic Number 4 below - We are stuck on on Juan Tejeda, who was the father of Toribio Tejeda - see below. We have no clear data or date of birth on Juan Tejeda. We have searched the Search.org website for years but cannot be sure which Juan Tejeda was the father of Toribio Tejeda. Any ideas or can you help on this ?

Thanks, Ken Tejeda

Toribio Tejeda was born on April 17, 1864 in Michoacanejo, Jalisco, and died in Morenci, Arizona in July 1918. He was the son of Juan Tejeda and Nicolasas Enrriques. He was married to Rosa Diaz Garcia in Michoacanejo, Mexico on

Research Digest, Vol 52, Issue 17

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I have done some further research on the website and found the following:

1. Jose Juan Tejeda Munos - born on Feb 02, 1845 - Father is Narsiso Tejeda and mother is Brigida Munos - born in Teocaltiche, Mex

2. Juan Tejeda Villalovos - born in 1842 on Aug 30 in Teocaltiche - father is Miguel Tejeda and mother is Jsefa Villalovos

This seems close as he was married in 1863, and these birthdates would make him either 21 or 18 at the time of marriage - also, the christening took place at the famous church - Nuestra Senora de Los Dolores

Any thoghts ?

Thanks, Ken Tejeda

On May 17, 2010, at 7:36 PM, KEN TEJEDA wrote:

> My name is Ken Tejeda - listed in Topic Number 4 below - We are stuck on on Juan Tejeda, who was the father of Toribio Tejeda - see below. We have no clear data or date of birth on Juan Tejeda. We have searched the Search.org website for years but cannot be sure which Juan Tejeda was the father of Toribio Tejeda. Any ideas or can you help on this ?
>
> Thanks, Ken

The Villagrana's from Zacatecas

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Hi, I had a question...Is it possible for Mexican couples such as in the 1800's, to have gotten married as early as 10 and 13 yrs old? If so, I think I've finally stumbled onto something...

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This would be highly unsual!

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Sent: Monday, May 17, 2010 2:00 PM
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ages of a Couple's Marriage and Childbirth in
Mexico

Is it also possible for couples as young and 10-13 yrs old to have given
birth to a child as well as gotten married? I think I read somewhere that
this has happened to children just as young or even younger!

-Alexis Villagrana

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Dear Alexis:
I have found in my Alviso line a girl 12 years old married in 1825.

Anna Maria Salome Albizo Gonzs. b. 11/1/1803 San Miguel El Alto (Indian)

m. 6/9/1825 Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion Camilo Renteria (Spanish)

children:Margarita Renteria Alviso b. 2/22/1826 San Miguel El Alto Rancho ??? (Mestiza)

I have not ordered her baptismal certificate yet, but Anna Maria Salome is the child of Ignacio Alviso and Juana Maria Gonzalez. She was married in June, would have turned 13 in November and had her first child in February, so she was 13 and four months old.

We have had this discussion before on Nuestros and while some may be "same name" different age errors, in other cases marriages at young ages were not all that uncommon.

Maureen Bejar

Ages at marriage- Maureen

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This doesn't add up. 1825 subtract 1803 and she would be 22 years old.

Esther

On May 17, 2010 at 10:51 PM mytmo@netnitco.net wrote:

> Dear Alexis:
> I have found in my Alviso line a girl 12 years old married in 1825.
>
>
> Anna Maria Salome Albizo Gonzs. b. 11/1/1803 San Miguel El Alto (Indian)
>
> m. 6/9/1825 Nuestra Senora De La Asuncion Camilo Renteria (Spanish)
>
> children:Margarita Renteria Alviso b. 2/22/1826 San Miguel El Alto Rancho ???
> (Mestiza)
>
>
> I have not ordered her baptismal certificate yet, but Anna Maria Salome is the
> child of Ignacio Alviso and Juana Maria Gonzalez. She was married in June,
> would have turned 13 in November and had her first child in February, so she
> was 13 and four months old.
>
> We have had this discussion before on Nuestros and while some may be "same
> name" different age errors, in other cases marriages at young ages were not
> all that uncommon.
>
> Maureen Bejar
>
>
>
>

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well, my ggrandmother married my ggrandfather at 12 years old and he had 60!!!! of course they wait a little for my grandmother born...Lety R

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Dear Esther and Everyone:
Sorry, this was the wrong one. I was doing this quickly and did not check the dates, in my mind I thought that Salome was the young one. I have the wrong girl. Now, I cannot find the one that was 12 years old. For some reason now I am sensing deja vu. Did I make this mistake before?

I would have to do much research, but my thought is that Juana Maria Gonzales was the young bride. She is the mother of Anna Maria Salome. Her age at marriage was not listed, but she was married in 1798. Yet, I do not have any of the documentation in my file as to her birth and it has been a long time since I have worked on this line.

I apologize again, but I am unable to find the girl in my research, who was 12 years old. So sorry and thanks Esther for catching my mistake.

Maureen Bejar

Ages of a Couple's Marriage and Childbirthin Mexico

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I found a few girls at this young age. The record may say 14 but going back to baptismal records shows they were 13.
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This would be highly unsual!

-Alexis Villagrana

Mexican couples who married young & had given birth at a young age

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Is it also possible for couples as young as 10-13 yrs old to have given birth to a child as well as gotten married?

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Really that young...

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Yeah I Noticed one of my Ancestors did, I wonder if it was arranged marriage... : (

Sanchez de Mendoza?

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What about jose sanchez de mendoza married to maria orosco? Who are their parents? Is jose also a son of juan becerra and ana sanchez de mendoza?

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Sanchez de Mendoza?

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You might have an error not sure, but Juan Sanchez de LAra did not marry Maria Hurtado de Mendoza, he marriedMarta Sanchez de Mendoza. Ive always wondered why two daughters of Toribio and ISabel used Sanchez de Mendozainstead like the other daughters used Hurtado de Mendoza, This Sanchez might be a clue on the ancestry of ISabel.
Daniel

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> What about jose sanchez de mendoza married to maria orosco? Who are their parents? Is jose also a son of juan becerra and ana sanchez de mendoza? Or is he the son of maria hurtado de mendoza and Juan sanchez de lara? How about Juana Sanchez married to Cristobal Munoz de hermosillo. What about Maria Sanchez married to Pedro Ramirez de Mendoza?
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Sanchez de Mendoza?

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This Jose Sanchez de MEndoza was son of Bartolome Martin del Campoand Maria Sanchez de Mendoza. This Maria in turn was daughter of JuanSanchez de Lara and Marta Sanchez de Mendoza. Marta was daughter ofToribio and ISabel. Maria Tello de Orozco was daughter of Francisco T. de Orozco and Ana Francisca Hernandez. Juana Sanchez de Mendoza who marriedCristobal Munoz de HErmosillo was daughter of Lazaro Sanchez de Mendozaand Geronima Rodriguez de Chavarria. So they were related. Jose Sanchezand Juana Sanchez were cousins and Jose Sanchez and Lazaro Sanchez wereboth sons of BArtolome de San Lazaro MARTIN DEL CAMPO and Maria Sanchezde Mendoza. I still wonder why these two did not take Martin del Campo but thematernal name of Mendoza, we know Mendoza had a more importance during thesetimes. Oh, Maria Sanchez who married PEdro Ramirez de Mendoza was daughterof the same Lazaro and Geronima Rodriguez
Daniel
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Nicolas Dias/Juana Ysasi

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Hola ,I have a Nicolas Dias and Juana Ysasi parents of Fabiana Dias de Tiscareno(my ancestor and married to Luis Padilla). Is Nicolas Dias a Tiscareno and if so how ?

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Nicolas Dias/Juana Ysasi

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Maria and seabastiana were also sisters , last name isassi y cuevas
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Hola ,I have a Nicolas Dias and Juana Ysasi parents of Fabiana Dias de Tiscareno(my ancestor and married to Luis Padilla). Is Nicolas Dias a Tiscareno and if so how ? familysearch.org has Juana Ysasi as Juana Martin del Campo, if so why ?

Thank you for your time

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I also have Phaviana as born in 1710 in aguascalientes.
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Nicolas Dias/Juana Ysasi

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I also have luis as Luis Francisco Padilla dAvila y Munoz de la Barba.
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Nicolas Dias/Juana Ysasi

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My records have him as nicolas diaz de Tiscareno.
Juana may be a descendent of Nicolas martin del campo and sebastiana Issasi y Cuevas or francisco martin del campo and maria issasi. Nicolas and francisco are brothers.
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Thank you for your time

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Juana De Ysassi

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Yo tambien desciendo de Fabiana Diaz casada con Luis de Padilla Davila, el origen de juana de Ysassi es que era el apehido de su abuela Paterna pero su verdadero apehido es Martin de campo , Juana es Hija de Bernabe Martin y Catalina pedroza de Nava aunque aveces se firmaba con el apehido materno osea nava, Bernabe Martin de Campo es hijo de Francisco Martin del Campo y Maria de Ysassi de ahi que juana su nieta se ponga este apehido, y catalina pedroza es hija de Marcos de Pedroza y Mariana de Nava espero que te ayude esta informacion un saludo a todos los compañeros de nuestros ranchos

Juana De Ysassi

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Hola, gracias a todos por la informacion y ayuda

Ronnie Reynoso

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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Juana De Ysassi
>
> Yo tambien desciendo de Fabiana Diaz casada con Luis de Padilla Davila, el origen de juana de Ysassi es que era el apehido de su abuela Paterna pero su verdadero apehido es Martin de campo , Juana es Hija de Bernabe Martin y Catalina pedroza de Nava aunque aveces se firmaba con el apehido materno osea nava, Bernabe Martin de Campo es hijo de Francisco Martin del Campo y Maria de Ysassi de ahi que juana su nieta se ponga este apehido, y catalina pedroza es hija de Marcos de Pedroza y Mariana de Nava espero que te ayude esta informacion un saludo a todos los compañeros de nuestros ranchos

Juana De Ysassi

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Gracias a ti. Por buscar como ayudarte revise lo que tenia del yssasi y pude seguir la linea y encontrar las actas de bautismo de sebastiana y maria hasta los abuelos de estas dos hermanas.
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Hola, gracias a todos por la informacion y ayuda

Ronnie Reynoso

Juana De Ysassi

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Yo sigo la linea de los padilla para explicar una de las lineas judias de nuestros antepasados. Esta linea tenia parientes que sigiueron siglos de pleitos con la inquision
Todavia no he terminado este capitulo de mi libro pero ya tengo detalles que confirman quienes son. Qiuero incluir los pleitos. Fueron muchos y quieron juntarlos.
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Hola, gracias a todos por la informacion y ayuda

Ronnie Reynoso

Juana De Ysassi

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Tengo un matrimonio que dice que usaba el nombre de Ysasi y Martin del Campoo sea que usaba los dos a la vez.
Daniel

Familia Escatel Airada

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The Lastname Escatel is Not a very Common Lastname, I Know That this Lastname Is From the town of Chimaltitan, jalisco, I am related to the Quirino Escatel Who Was Married Bonifacia Lujan Lopes...

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Familia Escatel Airada

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Antonio Orellana
Bit Confused.. the Lastname Airada appears in Bolanos, jalisco in 1830s
discoverd other ways to spell Airada
I found Ahirada on my Aunts Marriage Certificate
Aygrada in the 1930s census to my family
and we currently spell it Airada becuase my mom said thats how it should be...

Contreras, Guridi y Alcose, Morales, Olavarrieta, Morfi Guitian

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busco a Juan E. Contreras.. tal vez ( muy probable hijo de Juan Nepomuceno Contreras ( universidad de Guanajuato pariente según esto de Manuel Maria Contreras.

Manuel Maria Contreras Alcoser ( por error de lectura le pusieron Meoser) 21 feb 1833 pero se casa con Maria Teresa Morales y Velasquez de Leon

hijo de Jose Maria Contreras Davila ( 22 apr 1803, Asuncion Sagrario Metropolitano, Distrito Federal) y de Maria de la Luz Alcoser y Guridi hijo de Jose Ygnacio Contreras y Maria Gertrudis Davila al parecer avecinados entre el D.f y Puebla, encontré un matrimonio Contreras Davila pero las fechas no coinciden.. busco es esos 2, al parecer tuvieron Jose Maria y Luz a Samuel a Jesus Angel Contreras y Guridi Jose Maria Juan Nepomuceno y a Consuelo Contreras por lo que creo que tal vez Juan Nepo.. y Manuel Maria eran hermanos los dos se avecinaron en Guanajuato y en Pachuca y los 2 eran contemporáneos e ingenieros de minas los dos tenian hijos Samuel....pero no hollo al mio!! serían

Contreras, Guridi y Alcose, Morales, Olavarrieta, Morfi Guitian

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Corrijo Juan Bautista Morales hijo de Juan Felipe Morales Ulloa

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Airala?

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Encontre un Apellido Muy Similar a Airada, es Airala, Airalla y Aira En MExico Y En Argentina, Algien sabe mas de este apellido.
Talvez el Apellido Airada Sea Airala

Contreras

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Yupi, yeah bravo!!!!!!!

que creen? que por fin después de rogarle un par de años a mi primo para que me trajera el actas de mi abuelo!!!! lo conseguí pero necesito su ayuda...

Juan Evangelista Contreras el papá de mi abuelo era hijo de Agustin Melchor Contreras y de Fernanda Barrera Gonzalez casados el 3 sep 1854
en San Pedro tezontepec, Hidalgo...Agustin hijo de Guadalupe Melchor Contreras y de Maria Nicolasa???? y Fernanda Barrera es hija de Ramon Barrera y Guadalupe Gonzalez..

hay un acta donde una Maria Gpe Gonzalez se casa con un Jose apolonio Barrera en mineral el chico el 15 feb 1821 pero no se si sean ellos...

los hijos de Agustin Contreras y Fernanda Barrera son: ( nacen en Hacienda de san Bartolomé de Medina Hidalgo...

Octaviano de la Encarnacion 25 mar 1862 mismo pueblo ( abogado de profesion)

Roman Lorenzo Contreras 10 aug 1864

Epigmenio de la Encarnacion Contreras 25 mar 1860

Maria de los Angeles Contreras 25 feb 1856

Encarnacion Contreras

Familia Escatel

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Antonio Orellana
Pues de Lo que yo se Aki les va..
Mi Abuelito Nacio En Chimaltitan, jalisco de Nombre Jose De Jesus Escatel en 1923
Los Padres De El Eran Jose Escatel Martinez Y Refujio Rivera Payares
Jose Escatel Martinez Nacio En 1900
Refujio Rivera Payares Nacio en 1905
vivian en Aguacatillo, Chimaltitan
.
. El papa de Jose Escatel martinez era
Carlos Escatel Lujan Y Petronila Martinez.. no Se Su Dia de Nacimiento pero Se que
ellos se casaron en el Anyo 1889 en chimaltitan,Jalisco
Los padres de Carlos Escatel fue Quirino Escatel Y Bonifacia Lujan Lopes
tengo entendido que ellos tubieron 2 hijos mas de Nombres
Miguel Escatel Married Guadalupe Bobadilla on 9 Jan 1895
Felipa Escatel married Secundino Frausto on 15 jul 1876

de Quirino para tras Ya No Se mas Nada...

Familia Escatel

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No tengo registro de la boda de Quirino con Bonifacia Lujan o Lujano pero parece que se casó 2 veces la otra con Gumecinda Delgadillo el 11 may 1881 en Chimatitan jalisco así que seguramente ahí vienen los padres de Quirino... Lety R M019878

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>
> Antonio Orellana
> Pues de Lo que yo se Aki les va..
> Mi Abuelito Nacio En Chimaltitan, jalisco de Nombre Jose De Jesus Escatel en 1923
> Los Padres De El Eran Jose Escatel Martinez Y Refujio Rivera Payares
> Jose Escatel Martinez Nacio En 1900
> Refujio Rivera Payares Nacio en 1905
> vivian en Aguacatillo, Chimaltitan
> .
> . El papa de Jose Escatel martinez era
> Carlos Escatel Lujan Y Petronila Martinez.. no Se Su Dia de Nacimiento pero Se que
> ellos se casaron en el Anyo 1889 en chimaltitan,Jalisco
> Los padres de Carlos Escatel fue Quirino Escatel Y Bonifacia Lujan Lopes
> tengo entendido que ellos tubieron 2 hijos mas de Nombres
> Miguel Escatel Married Guadalupe

Fam Escatel

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Antonio Orellana

I Did See That? I See So many Names of Family Search.. the issue is.. do they have any connection...? so i am not sure if that Quirino Is The Same one..
but thanks...: )

Familia Escatel

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Antonio Orellana
Nope Leti.. No vienen ayi... Le Escrivi al Registro Civil de Jalisco.. y todavia espero, que me respondan..

La Semana Que biene voy a ir a Uno de los Sitios de family Center y ojala llevandoles los film y Batch numbers. pueda encontrar mas..

Familia Escatel

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Antonio,

Miguel Escatel nacio el 5 de Julio 1872en San Cristobal de La Barranca,
Jalisco. Se que lo tienes, pero pienzo que si pides el film 1108698(Batch
J602303 (1801-1875) pudieras encontrar los padres (Quirino Escatel y Bonifacia
Lujano) y a lo mejor tambien a los abuelos.

Esther Jordan Lopez

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> Antonio Orellana
> Nope Leti.. No vienen ayi... Le Escrivi al Registro Civil de Jalisco.. y
> todavia espero, que me respondan..
>
> La Semana Que biene voy a ir a Uno de los Sitios de family Center y ojala
> llevandoles los film y Batch numbers. pueda encontrar mas..

Familia Escatel Airada

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Antonio Orellana

El Apellido Que Yo Busco es Escatel, Escatel No es Un Apellido Muy commun. Se Que Es de Un Pueblo llamado Chimaltitan, Yo Estoy Buscando los Ancestros de Quirino Escatel que era el bis Abuelo de Mi abuelito. Quirino Escatel se caso con Bonifacia Lujan Lopes. creo que ellos nacieron entre los 1830 a 1850.

De lado de Mi Abuelita
Su Apellido tampoco no es moy Comun es Airada... Durante el Censo de 1930 lo Escrivian Aygrada pero mi ABuela nos conto que el Apellido Siempre se Escrivio Airada, Tambien es De chimaltitan,
Y De Tlaltenango Sanchez roman era mi Bis ABuela Soledad Magallanes que nacio en 1909.
sus papa's De Ella Eran Timoteo Magallanes y Calendaria O Candelaria Teposte
OJala que alguien Sepa de alguno de Estos nombres... Gracias

Familia Escatel Airada

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Antonio
Bueno.. yo pensé que como ofrecías tu ayuda ya tenias tu genealogia completa.. mira Timoteo Magallanes era hijo de Doroteo Magallanes y de Tiburcia Salazar bautizado el 26 aug 1883 batch I070117 443823

Taltenango,Zacatecas

Tiburcia y Doroteo se casan el 01 jun 1870 Tlaltenango M607146 Doroteo es hijo de Jose Angel de los Santos Magallanes y de Jesus Jimenez lo bautizan el 6 jun 1854 nace el 5,tambien son padres de Jose tirso magallanes ( 29 jan 1850 o 1858 C041759) Jose Angel y Jesus se casan el 10 may 1837...

Tiburcia es unos años mayor que Doroteo bautizada el 12 sep 1847 sus padres Mucio Salazar y Dolores Mayorga

Mucio y Dolores tienen a:

Petra 21 oct 1868

Bonifacio 8 jan 1864

Estefana 28 dec 1854

Micaela 10 may 1857

Ursula 24 oct 1859 Nicolas 8 dec 1852 Tlaltenango C607131 0443817

sigo buscando a AngelJose de los Santos y a Doroteo porque hay 2 obvio información que tienes que confirmar viendo el original.. tengo un par de teorias sobre Candelaria

http://www.e-local.gob.mx/work/templates/enciclo/jalisco/mpios/14031a.h…

HOla muchas gracias por tu ayuda

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Antonio Orellana
Yo He hecho muchas envestigaciones...
pero la Famila de Tlatenango Nunca havia encontrado de ellos
la Semana que viene voy a ir a un Family Center. para que me ayuden un poco mas
.. Y Mi mama tenia una tia en Michoacan pero ella Murio de Cancer...

Hola..

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Antonio Orellana

Sabes con Quien Timoteo Se caso con?
El Abuelos De Mi Abuelito hera Timoteo Magallanes Y Candelaria Teposte.. y son De Tlaltenango... : )

Hola..

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no se pero es el único Timoteo Magallanes que encontré en todo Zacatecas en Tlaltenango.. y además con las fechas correctas...solo hay que encontrar el acta de matrimonio Lety R

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Antonio Orellana
Ya tengo yo Mucho tiempo buscando la Acta de Matrimonio.. Le escrivi al Registro Civil pero no Me han contestado.... : (
Gracias por toda tu ayuda.. :)

Escatel Airada

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Antininio tal vez te interesen estos sitios sobre todo el segundo que es un foro fobre los Escatel:

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Sepulbeda Lomellin/Casillas

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Greetings Grupo,
I have Marcos de Sepulbeda married to Margarita Franco 08/Feb/1717 in Tepatitlan de Morelos, Jalisco. This much is definite. What I need help with is whether this is Marcos de Sepulbeda Lomellin born 20/Sep/1695 in Nochistlan, Zac. or Marcos Xavier Zepulbeda Casillas born 02/May/1696 in Zapotlan El Grande, Cuidad Guzman, Jalisco, and verification that Margarita Franco Garcia born 23/July/1696 is the right woman in the Tepatitlan marriage. Any help with line will be greatly appreciated.
Alice

Sepulbeda Lomellin/Casillas

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It probably isnt the Ciudad Guzman Marcos, I dont know but its rather strange aCasillas Cabrera to be in Ciudad Guzman? Then again you never know. I'll look intoit, you could also order the marriage record.
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Nuestros Ranchos: Sepulbeda Lomellin/Casillas

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Thanks for your response. I'm not sure where you got Cabrera, but you're much more experienced, and I guess it's further back in your data.

Marcos de Sepulbeda 20/Sept/1695 Nochistlan, Zac has parents: Marcos de Sepulbeda and Mariana de Lomellin.

Marcos Xavier Zepulbeda Casillas 02/May/1696 in Zapotlan El Grande, Cuidad Guzman, Jalisco has parents: Joseph de Zepulbeda and Francisca Casillas.

I'm trying to figure out which one married Margarita Franco 08/Feb/1717 in Tepatitlan De Morelos, Jal.

Out of curiousity, is the price of ordering films standard? Here, it's 5.50 each for short term.
Again, any and all help is welcome and greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. Alice

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Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Sepulbeda Lomellin/Casillas
To: "Patty Hoyos"
Date: Thursday, April 8, 2010, 5:19 AM

It probably isnt the Ciudad Guzman Marcos, I dont know but its rather strange aCasillas

Nuestros Ranchos: Sepulbeda Lomellin/Casillas

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Gonzalez de Hermosillo

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To: Rick Rodriguez

This is the information that I have, I hope it helps to answer your question about the Gonzalez de Hermosillo and the Gonzalez Rubio.

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Gonzalez de Hermosillo

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Do you know of a Mariana Gonzalez de Hermosillo married to a Diego Flores Alatorre?

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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Gonzalez de Hermosillo

To: Rick Rodriguez

This is the information that I have, I hope it helps to answer your question about the Gonzalez de Hermosillo and the Gonzalez Rubio.

Diego Gonzalez de Hermosillo was married to Maria Rubio
Their son: Francisco Gutierrez de La Vega Y Rubio B:1551 married Ana Gonzalez Florida in 1576 , Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco. Source: LDS Batch F868025 Film 1396255.

Their children:
Ana Gonzalez Florida II (1594-1672)
Capt. Miguel Gutierrez Rubio
Maria Gonzalez (abt. 1577)
Diego Gonzalez Rubio (abt. 1597)
Francisco Gutierrez Rubio II (abt.1595)
Catalina Gutierrez Rubio (abt.1597-1667)

Notice their last names: Capt. Miguel, Francisco, and Catalina used "Gutierrez

Mariana Gonzalez de Hermosillo

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The simple answer to your question is "No"

I do have a Mariana Gonzalez de Hermosillo (1638-1694) daughter of Juan
Gonzalez de Hermosillo and Ana Gonzalez Florida II.
Mariana was married to Nicolas Moreno de Ortega.

I also have:

Diego Flores de La Torre IV, Capt. married to Theresa Gonzalez de
Hermosillo.

Diego Flores de La Torre y Gamboa married to Josefa Franco de Paredes.

I wish I could have given you more help.

John Gonzalez
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> Do you know of a Mariana Gonzalez de Hermosillo married to a Diego Flores
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Can you give approximate years so I do not have to look at all my records. I do not have all my records on computer.
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Do you know of a Mariana Gonzalez de Hermosillo married to a Diego Flores Alatorre?

To: Rick Rodriguez

This is the information that I have, I hope it helps to answer your question about the Gonzalez de Hermosillo and the Gonzalez Rubio.

Familia VITELA de Zacatecas

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Hola a todos: Deseo tambien saber si alguien tiene algo de informacion de la familia VITELA del Estado de Zacatecas, especialmente de Jalpa, Miguel Auza ( Mezquital del Oro) o areas cercanas a Jerez.

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Nuestros Ranchos] Familia VITELA de Zacatecas

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LIC. ALESSANDRO VITELA

Ser de Luz!!!

Segundo intento..... Second attempt....

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> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Familia VITELA de Zacatecas
>
> Hola a todos: Deseo tambien saber si alguien tiene algo de informacion de la familia VITELA del Estado de Zacatecas, especialmente de Jalpa, Miguel Auza ( Mezquital del Oro) o areas cercanas a Jerez. He visto que hay muchas personas que investigan en los archivos de Jerez y creo sea posible que alguien haya visto a algun miembro de la familia Vitela en esa zona. Lamentablemente no he logrado mucha informacion sobre mis antepasados pues he encontrado que muchos de los archivos de Zacatecas fueron quemados por los cristeros. Tengo conocimiento de mi bisabuelo Francisco Vitela nacido supuestamente en Jalpa, Zac. en el año 1868, quien fue hijo de Gorgonio Vitela (b. abt 1840) y de Fermina Lopez (b. abt 1840), pero no tengo idea de

Ayuda!!! Como meter informacion al programa paf cuando las lineas se entrecruzan?

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Amigos del foro, tengo este problema.El papa de mi abuela se caso con una hermana de mi abuelo o sea su cunada, tiene medios hermanos que son a la vez sobrinos de mi abuelo, es algo confuso y no se

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Ayuda!!! Como meter informacion al programa paf cuando las linea

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Conecta unos con los otros tal i cual como es la relacion, y el programa se encarga de las relaciones.
Buena suerte,

Anna Arellano Smith, california

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Sent: Fri, May 14, 2010 12:47:05 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Ayuda!!! Como meter informacion al programa paf cuando las lineas se entrecruzan?

Amigos del foro, tengo este problema.El papa de mi abuela se caso con una hermana de mi abuelo o sea su cunada, tiene medios hermanos que son a la vez sobrinos de mi abuelo, es algo confuso y no se si debo duplicar los datos o como se documenta para que el programa no los tome como otros individuos.Agradezco de antemano su ayuda.Sin mas por el momento, espero su respuesta.

J.Guadalupe Jaime Chavez

p.d. Alguien investiga Jalpa,Zac y alrededores y Asientos,Ags?

Ayuda!!! Como meter informacion al programa paf cuando las linea

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Hola, mira respecto a tu pregunta, lo que tienes que hacer es que poner a la senora que mencionas en la parte superior y cuando esta en azul . te vas a la parte de arriba y ahi dice add entonces haces click ahi, y te va a salir individual , family , spouse y haces click en spouse, y si esa persona que vas a ponerla como esposo de ella ya existe en tu file, entonces te va a salir un casillero que dice add new individual or select existing individual y como tu ya lo tienes ( creo) entonces le dices select existing individual, entonces te va a preguntar que numero de rin tiene. asi que antes de poner esos datos primero fijate que numero de rin tiene la persona para que no se dupliquen entonces solo dices select existing individual y le pones el numero de rin y el programa automaticamente lo acomoda.

bueno espero que te sirva esta informacion . ojala y no te confunda mas.

Martha Gomez
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Ayuda!!! Como meter informacion al programa paf cuando las linea

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Parte de mis lineas estan en JAlpa, Huanusco, Tabasco, Calvillo.
Daniel

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> Hola, mira respecto a tu pregunta, lo que tienes que hacer es que poner a la senora que mencionas en la parte superior y cuando esta en azul . te vas a la parte de arriba y ahi dice add entonces haces click ahi, y te va a salir individual , family , spouse y haces click en spouse, y si esa persona que vas a ponerla como esposo de ella ya existe en tu file, entonces te va a salir un casillero que dice add new individual or select existing individual y como tu ya lo tienes ( creo) entonces le dices select existing individual, entonces te va a preguntar que numero de rin tiene. asi que antes de poner esos datos primero fijate que numero de rin tiene la persona para que no se dupliquen entonces

RE: most recent email: CLAUDINE GUINY IS SPAM

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Usually all posts from this website are safe and free of Spam, however, as I went to open this attachment from Vicente De San Miguel, it takes you to a drug company selling Cialis and Viagra.

arbol de genealogico Martin del Campo Macias

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Can anyone help me find an out of print family history book " Arbol Genealogico de la Familia Martin del Campo 1870-1970" by Enrique Martin del Campo Macias published by Compprime Impresiones Laser J.

Thank You To All

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I want to say thank you to all members here in this website.

General Digest, Vol 52, Issue 2

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Alicia,

That is such a touching story! I have been asked numerous times why I was so interested in genealogy.

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General Digest, Vol 52, Issue 2

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Esther,

I'm sorry about your father in-law and his passing.

Isn't that what happens to all of us, we don't realize what a treasure trove of stories and history lie within the elders in our family and it's not until they're gone that we realize the loss not only of that person but everything they took with them about their life.

I knew my Nuestros Ranchos family would understand and I hoped that even if it was only one person who was re-energized it would be worth sharing.

Thanks Esther and don't give up on your husband's family history!!

Alicia

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From: Esther Valencia
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Sat, May 8, 2010 7:23:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] General Digest, Vol 52, Issue 2

Alicia,

That is such a touching story! I have been asked numerous times why I was so interested in genealogy. As a matter of fact, my husband was not convinced that it was of much importance and felt that I was just "spinning my wheels"

HOLA ALICIA

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Espero que hables espanol. bueno creo que si , me encanto tu historia y como alguien te dijo , tambien a mi me conmovio tu historia .

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Thanks my Nuestros Ranchos family

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Marta,

Si hablo y escribo un poco en epañol.

Fue un placer compartir esta historia con historiadores de familia.

Puesto que nuestro hobby es algo laborioso y no siempre tenemos la oportunidad de compartir algo que nos trae tanta satisfaccion como el encontrar familia perdida o desconocida y que nos da a saber lo mucho que agradecio el fruto de nuestro trabajo y el encontrar nuestro parentesco.

Maria,

I do speak and write spanish.

It was a pleasure to share this story with those who are family historians.
Our hobby is quite labor intensive and we don't always get the opportunity to share something that brings such deep rewards like finding lost or unknown family members who let us know what it means to them to make that family connection and who appreciate our hard work.

Thanks to Joseph, Angelina, Paul and Margie, my extended Mexican family on Nuestros Ranchos for your kind words.

Gracias a Joseph, Angelina, Paul y Margie, my familia Mexicana de Nuestros Ranchos, por esas

JUAN RAMON ALVAREZ

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