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Nicolas Macias&Josefa de Alvarado and Thomas Macias-Maria Lopez de Lizalde

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Sisters Maria Lopez de Elizalde and Josefa de Alvarado, daughters of Luis de Alvarado and Beatriz Lopez de Elizalde, married respectively Thomas Macias (13 Sept 1659) and Nicolas Macias (21 Feb 1662).

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Published by Jaime_Alvarado – Wed, 2010-01-20 22:22 | Permalink

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In looking at my records, I found a marriage that may help solve the relationship between Thomas and Nicolas Macias. Their respective grandchildren, Salvador Macias Ruiz de Esparza and Maria Macias Ruiz de Esparza, married in Aguascalientes on March 9, 1734. I was able to locate the marriage record in Pilot, and the 'dispensa' of their consanguinity is mentioned. Unfortunately, I have not been able to find the "Informacion Matrimonial", where I was expecting to see info on the grandparents relationship. I wonder if anyone can help accessing this information from the Sagrada Mitra?

Al verificar mis registros, encontre la informacion de un matrimonio que pudiera servir para resolver la relacion entre Thomas y Nicolas Macias. Sus respectivos nietos, Salvador Macias Ruiz de Esparza y Maria Ruiz de Esparza, se casaron en Aguascalientes en marzo 9 de 1734. Encontre la imagen en Pilot, donde se menciona la dispensa de su consanguinidad. Desgraciadamente no he podido localizar la informacion

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Published by celestino_villalobos – Wed, 2010-01-20 19:30 | Permalink

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Disculpas, Miguel Lopez de Elizalde y Leonor de Aberruza fueron abuelos de Beatriz Lopez y los padres de Beatriz fueron Juan Lopez de Elizalde y Aberruza y Leonor Becerra y Sanchez de Mendoza, padres de Leonor Becerra fueron Juan Becerra y Ana sanchez de Mendoza, esta ultima hija de Toribio Hernandez de Arellano y de Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza hija de Iñigo Lopez de Mendoza y Qiñonez, Marquez de Mondejar y de Maria Laso de Mendoza.  Capitulo 81. Geneologias de Nochistlan.

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From: alvaradj@comcast.net
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nicolas Macias&Josefa de Alvarado and Thomas Macias-Maria Lopez de Lizalde
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Wednesday, January 20, 2010, 2:35 PM

Sisters Maria Lopez de Elizalde and Josefa de Alvarado, daughters of Luis de Alvarado and Beatriz Lopez de Elizalde, married respectively Thomas Macias (13 Sept 1659) and Nicolas Macias (21 Feb 1662). Does anyone knows what is the relationships of Nicolas

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Muchas Gracias Celestino; Thanks John and Daniel. I also found in NR archives a reply (21 Dec 2006) from Bill Figueroa to Daniel regarding the Elizalde family. Regading the Nicolas and Thomas Macias Valades I'll keep on looking for clues.

Jaime

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Has anyone ever found the source for Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza's parents? I dont know how Jose Luis Vasquezcame to that conclusion, I dont disregard it but just wonder the source. I have studied the Mendoza family,undoubtfully one of the most important families in all of Nueva Galicia. I have Genealogias de Nochistlan (thanksto a good friend) and it says Inigo Lopez de Mendoza and Maria Laso de Mendoza were ambos de Nochistlan.So they actually did live in Nochistlan according to the book. Even don Mariano Gonzalez Leal is still puzzledat this line, we still cannot trace or connect our Mendoza to those of Spain with full documentation, probdue to the lack of records in the early years of the colony. Any comments?
-Daniel

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Daniel, Celestino and others,
I was checking the timeline to associate Isabel Hurtado de Mendoza as the daughter of the first marques of Mondejar, Iñigo Lopez de Mendoza y Quiñonez (1440-1515), and simply it does not match. The second problem is that the first's marques wife was Francisca Pacheco, and not Maria Laso de Mendoza. Now, Inigo was the grandchild of Inigo Lopez de Mendoza y Lasso (1398-1458), first marques de Santillana. I wonder if the association of the Lasso surname to Isabel's mother was used to identify her as the marques' daughter. However, more importantly, is that none of the marques of Mondejar lived in Mexico (although Antonio de Mendoza is identified in some publications as holding that title). Antonio de Mendoza, New Spain's first Viceroy, was son of the first marques. He apparently did not left any decendants in Mexico or Peru (although other relatives may have stayed in the Americas). I urge you to visit the site of Jose L.G. de Paz of the Universidad Autonoma

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62.  MARQUES DE MONDEJAR INIGO10 LOPEZ-DE-MENDOZA, 2ND COUNT OF TENDILLA (INIGO9, INIGO8, DIEGO7 HURTADO-DE-MENDOZA, PEDRO6 GONZALEZ-DE-MENDOZA, GONZALO5 HURTADO-DE-MENDOZA, DIEGO4, DIEGO3, DIEGO2 LOPEZ-DE-MENDOZA, LOPO1 GONZALEZ-DE-MENDOZA)11 was born 1442, and died 16 Jul 1516 in Secuellanos, Cuidad Real, Spain.  He met (1) INES DE TAPIA.  She died 1477.  He married (2) MARIANA LASSO-DE-MENDOZA12.    He married (3) MARQUISES OF VILLENA FRANCISCA PACHECO-Y-PORTOCARRERO Abt. 1480, daughter of JUAN PACHECO and MARIA PORTOCARRERO.  She was born 1450.  Genealogias del primo John Inclan. Titulo
Lord Pedro Gonzalez de Mendoza & Lady Aldoza Lopez de Ayala.  
 
Tal vez ayude un poco o se ponga peor.  Celestino

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From: Jaime R. Alvarado
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nicolas Macias&Josefa de Alvarado and Thomas Macias-Maria Lopez de Lizalde
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 2:00 PM

Daniel, Celestino and

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Estimado Celestino,
Gracias por la informacion de nuestro primo John Inclan acerca de los Mendozas. Por otra parte, si no lo haz hecho, visita la pagina de web del investigador de la Universidad Autonoma de Madrid (UAM) (http://www.uam.es/personal_pdi/ciencias/depaz/mendoza/ctendi2.htm) donde se dan datos muy precisos de los condes de Tendilla y marqueses de Mondejar. Informacion que aparece ahi indica que su hija Isabel (Hurtado de Mendoza) murio joven siendo monja.

Jaime

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Gracias, Jaime. Aunque realmente de los Mendoza no se mucho, de todas maneras tarde que temprano, se conectan con mi familia. Claro esta muy bueno ese sitio de Internet. Hasta la proxima.

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From: Jaime R. Alvarado
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Nicolas Macias&Josefa de Alvarado and Thomas Macias-Maria Lopez de Lizalde
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Date: Thursday, January 21, 2010, 8:47 PM

Estimado Celestino,
Gracias por la informacion de nuestro primo John Inclan acerca de los Mendozas. Por otra parte, si no lo haz hecho, visita la pagina de web del investigador de la Universidad Autonoma de Madrid (UAM) (http://www.uam.es/personal_pdi/ciencias/depaz/mendoza/ctendi2.htm) donde se dan datos muy precisos de los condes de Tendilla y marqueses de Mondejar. Informacion que aparece ahi indica que su hija Isabel (Hurtado de Mendoza) murio joven siendo monja.

Jaime

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Edgar Olguin Diaz
hola celestino villalobos
un cordial saludo
una pregunta

Tienes la fuente donde se menciona los padres de juan lopez elizalde y aberruza y los de leonor beserra?

Juan Lopez de Elizalde y Aberruza padres Miguel Lopez de Elizalde y Leonor de Aberruza
Leonor Becerra y Sanchez de Mendoza, padres Juan Becerra y Ana sanchez de Mendoza.

te lo agradezeria mucho si me ayudaras en este caso si tienes el documento mandame una copia si me haces el favor.

te lo agradezco mucho
disculpa las molestias
que tengas un excelente dia
saludos

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Edgar Olguin Diaz
hola celestino Villalobos
un cordial saludo

una pregunta
donde puedo conseguir el archivo o documento donde se mencionan
los linajes de juan lopez Elizalde y Leonor beserra sanchez y mendoza
que estas mencionando?

yo desciendo de ellos de Beatriz lopez de Elizalde casada con luis Alvarado y de maria lopez de Elizalde casada con Jacinto ruiz de esparza me gustaría tener en mis archivos estos documentos

te lo agradecería mucho
gracias por la atención prestada
que tengas un excelente dia

saludos

Published by celestino_villalobos – Wed, 2010-01-20 19:00 | Permalink

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Estos, nombres probablemente son los que andas buscando.
Nicolas Macias, fue bautizado el 22 de Febrero de 1642. Padres Francisco Macias y Jasinta Ortega en Aguascalientes.
Hay un Mateo, no un Tomas hermano de este Nicolas.
Mateo Macias, hijo de Francisco Macias y Jasinta de Ortega, fue bautizado 17 Octubre 1627 en Aguascalientes.
Tambien Maria Lopez de Lizalde hermana de Beatriz Lopez, caso en primeras nupcias con Juan de Luevana y en segundas con Martin Ruiz de Esparza. Ver Cap. 51 G. Nochistlan.
Beatriz Lopez fue hija de Miguel Lopez de Elizalde y de Leonor de Aberruza.
Talvez Maria Lopez se caso mas que dos veces, si ese fue el caso el tercer esposo sería Tomas, pero si no, quiere decir que a lo mejor, tu información no es completamente correcta, o la informacón de Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez y Frias en su libro de Genealogias de Nochistlan Capitulo 81, pagina 236 a 239, no sean confiables, es cuestión de investigar un poco mas. Espero que te ayude un poco. Celestino.

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Published by mendezdetorres – Wed, 2010-01-20 17:45 | Permalink

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I have Tomas' parents as:
Pedro Macias Valades & Luisa Solano de Villegas.
I know Nicolas' parents have been debated. Some claims as to be being married twicewith Francisca Gutierrez de Mendoza cannot be becuase it conflicts with the childrens baptisms. A man couldnt be married to two woman at the same time. I believe they re not the sameNicolas. It had to be another Nicolas, a close relative.
-Daniel
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Localizar el acta de bautismo de Mauro Ruiz Dias 28 enero 1869

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Alguien me puede decir donde puedo localizar el acta de bautismo de Mauro Ruis Dias de Ojo Cliente, Zacatecas... anexo el link, peor no me corresponde a la imagen.

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Saludos a todos los que se enfocaron en que los espacios vacios genealogicos no persistan.. MIEL GRACIAS...Un abrazo desde tierras barbaras, alias Chihuahua, el estado tormentoso

New Member

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Hello,

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Published by Armando – Fri, 2013-02-08 20:09 | Permalink

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If Felipe was born Aug. of 1856 in San Miguel El Alto then his surname is Alderete Anda and not Anda Alderete. The paternal surname goes first and the maternal surname goes last.

The same goes for Santiago, if his father's surname was Torres and his mother's surname was Guerra then his surname was Torres Guerra and not Guerra Torres.

The birth record of Santiago should name his grandparents. Are they not named in it?

Regards
Armando

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Thank you for the naming information. Santiago's grandparents are not listed in the birth record. Just his parents, their ages, where they were a resident of and the witnesses.

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Olla!
My name is Mary Mejia (http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/marymejia) and I am
researching my husband's family. His great-grandparents were Manuel Mejia and
Francisca Rosales from Tepetongo, Zacatecas. Manuel and Francisca were married
2/10/1877 in Tepetongo and had 12 children, all baptised in Tepetongo (Marciala,
Magdaleno, Josef, Gabino, Florentina, Francisca, Adelaida, Alejandra, Cruz,
Heron, Fidel and Maria). They immigrated to the US around 1917 and ended up in
Kansas City, Kansas. Fidel was my husband's grandfather and his grandmother
Maria Ignacia Salazar (also from Zacatecas, but that is all I know so far).

I appreciate the opportunity to expand my knowledge of my son's heritage as I
believe it is important to know from where we come.

Mary Mejia

Published by agutierrez07 – Tue, 2013-02-12 12:30 | Permalink

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Hi Mary, and welcome to NuestrosRanchos. I am still fairly new to the group
and I can assure you, you won't be sorry you joined. I had no knowledge of
genealogy and only got into it because I promised my daughter I would look into
our background and who our ancestors were. I had a hard time finding my mother
but thanks to NuestrosRanchos and Joseph, who not only found her but was kind
enough to send me a good copy of her baptismal---I almost cried tears of joy.
You will get the help you need from this group, they are all great. I have
learned that Genealogy is like going on a treasure hunt and when you find an
ancestors, it's like finding a treasure! Good Luck!
Ann Marie Gutierrez

Ann M. Gutierrez

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From: Mary Mejia
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Tue, February 12, 2013 12:51:14 PM
Subject: [NuestrosRanchos] new member

Olla!
My name is Mary Mejia (http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/marymejia) and I am
researching my

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Published by mexicanfhr – Tue, 2013-02-12 22:30 | Permalink

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Mary,

Welcome to the group. I am sure that you will find lots of help and
suggestions from the group members.

I did take a look at the information, that you have posted in the group, in
regards to your husband's family Tree. I was able to go from Manuel Mejia
back 7 generations. I have sent a copy of the ancestor report to your
email. There is a lot of information there, and lot of it still needs to
be proven. That means that you need to look up each event, such as birth
records, baptisms, and marriages. The quickest way to look them up is to
use the FamilySearch site, and the records are in Spanish. So have fun,
looking for your family.

Jonathan Walker

Published by iChristopher – Tue, 2013-02-12 16:45 | Permalink

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Hi Mary,

Welcome to NuestrosRanchos. You'll learn so much from being a member. I didn't know anything about my family because my dad died when I was little but now after being a member for just a couple of months I've added so many ancestors to my tree and learned so much about my family and my heritage. And, everyone is so helpful here. Joining this group is the best thing I've ever done in my life.

Christopher de Cuellar

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Published by bgut – Tue, 2014-03-04 22:00 | Permalink

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Hello my name is Brian Gilbert Gutierrez. I am excited to be a member of Nuestros Ranchos. My Aunt and I have been involved in our familiy's genealogy work for some time. Our roots go from New Mexico to Colotlan, Mexico, and Tlaltenango, Mexico. We are currently as far back as the mid 1600's. I look forward to participating.

Brian

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Duran from Nochistlan

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Hello everyone,I am currently looking for Maria Feliciana Duran's marriage record.I went through all available marriage records from her time period for Nochistlan, Jalpa, Juchilipa and Apozol.

José Nolasco Fernández de Villalpando

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I was able to find new information on my ancestor José Nolasco Fernández de Villalpando and may appear to be related to the same Villalpando family of Aguascalientes and Guanajuato.

Esparza Amatlan to Cocula

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Hi. I'm stuck and need some help. Looking for records for Juan Esteban (or Estevan) Esparza and his Father Gregorio Esparza.

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Published by SaVelez – Sun, 2014-03-02 12:52 | Permalink

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Hola,

It says he's been living in Rancho de Quilita, in the jurisdiction of Tecolotlan, for six years at the time of this testimony.

I'm not clear on the "THO" that you're talking about? There is an abbreviation, "dho" that they'd use constantly in these documents; it means "dicho" which means "stated" as in the name of the town has already been stated prior in the document.

How are you certain that your Esparza line goes directly back to Esparza, Navarra? There are several towns and places named Velez in Spain, mostly in Andalucia and Murcia but I have no idea or proof that my ancestors' line goes back to any of them. Wondering how you are you sure of yours? Do you have a source of info that directs you to that place?

Sandra Velez

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I wasn't sure if it was quilita since i couldn't find it on a map. Must not be there anymore. Yes it was DHO i was referring too and that makes much more sense when i read it now, thank you.

I'm not certain my line comes from there. I just assumed since there is a record of a ruiz de esparza coming from there to aguas calientes. It's one of the many reasons im doing this, finding my roots. As are all of us. So I'll see what happens if i can trace it there

Thank you for the input Sandra.

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Sandra Velez

http://www.microrregiones.gob.mx/catloc/Default.aspx

This is a government site and is excellent for looking up the locations of towns & ranchos that may no longer exist. You can find non-existent or very small, unmapped towns/ranchos by clicking first on the name of the municipality, then on the name of the town/rancho you're looking for, and whether it's currently active or inactive, it will be listed and shown on a Google-type map including satellite imagery.

If you can't find a rancho in one municipality, remember local government lines have changed over the years from then to now, and while any town may have been in one municipality back when, it could be in a different one now, so look also in adjoining districts as well.

Edesparza81,
In Tecolotlan, the closest town I found to Quilita was Quililla, which could be the modern name of the town you're looking for. Cocula or Tapalpa would be other good ones to check in if you think present-day Quililla might

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El Archivo General de Indias (AGI)

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Estimados compañeros,

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Published by oldcar53 – Sat, 2014-03-01 11:45 | Permalink

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Muchisimas gracias Efrain por el video tutorial,

Me fue muy util, hace años lo habia usado, y luego regrese a trabajar y
como dice el dicho, si no lo usas, lo pierdes.

Gracias a este video, de nuevo puedo entrar a PARES.

Alicia

2014-02-28 23:24 GMT-08:00 :

> Estimados compañeros,
>
> Sonia Meza, entrevistadora de parte de Red de Antepasados
> www.redantepasados.com notifica que la semana pasada ella entrevistó a
> Don Manuel Ravina Marti, Director del Archivo General de Indias (AGI), en
> Sevilla, España.
> El AGI es uno de los archivos mas grande del mundo y, con esa parte de
> como 14% de sus mas de 8 millones de documentos que han sido catalogados,
> digitalizados, e indexados, es una fuente principal muy interesante y
> productiva para todos los genealogistas, ya sea aquellos que recien se
> inician, como para los que llevan años en la apasionante tarea de encontrar
> documentos que nos remiten a nuestros ancestros.
>
> Les sugiero ver el video de 21 minutos de esta

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Dowries (Dote Matrimonial)

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In the Aguascalientes archives there are 45 documents describing dowries (dote matrimonial). All but two are for the town of Aguascalientes, one is for Asientos, and one Lagos de Moreno.

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Edgar Olguin Diaz
armando buenos dias
un cordial saludo

si ya encontre el documento tuve algunos problemas
para encontralo , lo encontre con la fecha y ya lo tengoo
te lo agredezco mucho
muchas gracias estoy pendiente amigo
que tengas un excelente dia

saludos
estamos en contacto
bye

Published by Claudia_Reynoso – Fri, 2011-03-25 21:08 | Permalink

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George,

Having personally experienced navigating the SIGUE website for Estado de Aguascalientes - I know the time and amount of work that went into compiling this list of Dowries (Dote Matrimonial)...and I want to say THANK YOU for sharing this index of records with our NR membership. You are a Rock Star!

Gracias.
Claudia

Research Digest, Vol 97, Issue 25

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Han visitado el sitio de pueblosamerica.com.mx acabo de ver el rancho/pueblo de Garabatos, de catorce habitantes situado en el municipio de tepatitlan de Morelos, incluye una viste del lugar por satel

Castañeda question

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Hi all!

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Published by rosa9972 – Fri, 2013-07-19 11:00 | Permalink

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Laura,

I have Hernando's marriage record and his parents' names, which dead ends there; that means little, though, as I haven't researched them further back, since I don't appear to be connected to Hernando's parents. I connect with you through Hernando's wife, Antonia de Covarrubias. I have additional information on her. Send me a message through the group, and I can forward you some details. Just click on my user name.

Rosalinda

Published by alicebb – Fri, 2014-02-21 18:00 | Permalink

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Hi Carmen,
If you find out, please let me know.  I've also asked about these emails and the ones that appear with NuestrosRanchos digest..,vol...,
but never received an answer.
Thanks,
Alice 

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From: Carmen Munoz
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 5:15 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question

Hi
My name is Carmen Munoz.  I am a member of Nuestro Ranchos.

I'm a bit confused.  Would you be so kind as to explain to me…….. what exactly does research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org do?

Thanks,
Carmen

Published by oldcar53 – Fri, 2014-02-21 18:30 | Permalink

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Alice and Carmen,

There are 3 lists in which to post your emails or comments, each one has a
specific purpose.

- Announce is when you have an announcement to make such as an event
related to genealogy or other type of announcement.
- Research is when you have a research question or response
- General is for general purposes just a comment in general.

These 3 lists are to help us submit and respond to a specific type of
posting.

Alicia

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> Hi Carmen,
> If you find out, please let me know. I've also asked about these emails
> and the ones that appear with NuestrosRanchos digest..,vol...,
> but never received an answer.
> Thanks,
> Alice
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: Carmen Munoz
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 5:15 PM
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question
>
>
> Hi
> My name is Carmen Munoz. I am a member of Nuestro Ranchos.
>
> I'm a bit confused. Would

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Published by alicebb – Fri, 2014-02-21 20:45 | Permalink

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Hello Alicia,
Thank you so much for your response.  What are emails with the reference to volumes and digest numbers about?
Alice

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From: Alicia Carrillo
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question

Alice and Carmen,

There are 3 lists in which to post your emails or comments, each one has a
specific purpose.

  - Announce is when you have an announcement to make such as an event
  related to genealogy or other type of announcement.
  - Research is when you have a research question or response
  - General is for general purposes just a comment in general.

These 3 lists are to help us submit and respond to a specific type of
posting.

Alicia

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> Hi Carmen,
> If you find out, please let me know.  I've also asked about these emails
> and the ones that appear with NuestrosRanchos digest..,vol...,
> but never received an

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Published by oldcar53 – Fri, 2014-02-21 22:30 | Permalink

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Alice,

When you join Nuestros Ranchos or at anytime of your choosing, you can set
or change your preferred settings for the mailing lists on Nuestros
Ranchos. Log into Nuestros Ranchos and you'll see the 7 bullets on the
right hand side, select Mailing Lists and you can select how it is that you
want to subscribe to each of the mailing lists.

- Post a forum topic
- Create content
- Latest images
- Mailing Lists
- Recent posts
- My account
- Log out

1. If you're going on vacation or just don't want to receive mail from
Nuestros Ranchos, you would check the No mail (temporarily disable delivery)
2. If you want to receive your email from Nuestros Ranchos in a bundle
every day, rather than receiving it as it streams in on a daily basis, you
would check subscribe for digest.
3. Or you can select, Subscribe for all mail (normal delivery) this is
to get your emails one at a time as they are sent and received at Nuestros
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Published by alicebb – Fri, 2014-02-21 23:00 | Permalink

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Thanks again, Alicia. 
So, the digest consists of bundles of emails received at a later date. 
 Like you, I also have selected subscribe for all mail, and also miss some.  If we humans were as
fickle and capricious as technology, we wouldn't have jobs.
Alice

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From: Alicia Carrillo
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Friday, February 21, 2014 11:23 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Question

Alice,

When you join Nuestros Ranchos or at anytime of your choosing, you can set
or change your preferred settings for the mailing lists on Nuestros
Ranchos. Log into Nuestros Ranchos and you'll see the 7 bullets on the
right hand side, select Mailing Lists and you can select how it is that you
want to subscribe to each of the mailing lists.

  - Post a forum topic
  - Create content
  - Latest images
  - Mailing Lists
  - Recent posts
  - My account
  - Log out

  1. If you're going on vacation or just don't want to receive mail from
 

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Published by longsjourney – Wed, 2014-02-26 13:30 | Permalink

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Hi Carmen, on research list I would ask for specific names or locations I'm researching and would like help on in the hope that someone else in Nuestros Ranchos is working in the same lines or areas. In general I would share stories or ask questions not pertaining to research
Linda in Boulder City, Nv

On Wednesday, February 26, 2014 12:03 PM, Carmen Munoz wrote:

Hi
My name is Carmen Munoz.  I am a member of Nuestro Ranchos.

I'm a bit confused.  Would you be so kind as to explain to me…….. what exactly does research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org do?

Thanks,
Carmen

Los Garabatos in Tepatitlan

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While researching my Salazar family from the Tepatitlan area, I am starting to notice several of them living in a place called Los Garabatos.

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Published by ElCapitanPaco – Mon, 2014-02-24 21:23 | Permalink

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Los Garabatos está cerca de Los Magueyes, La Tuna Agría, y Pegueros, que es el pueblito más grandecito pegado a Tepa rumbo a Jalos.

Steven Francisco Hernández López

Published by Steve_G._Apodaca – Tue, 2014-02-25 19:58 | Permalink

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Muchas gracias Steven. Pude encontrar los tres lugares que me mencionas por medio de google earth y pueblosamerica. Sin embargo, la misma pagina me lleva mas hacia el sur cuando busco por Garabatos, hacia una presa. Me imagino que el Los Garabatos que tu mencionas ha de ser un caserio muy pequeño en la actualidad, no mencionado en los mapas. Me interesa mucho saber el lugar exacto de los pueblos y ranchos que voy encontrando en mi investigacion ya que me gusta marcar en el mapa los puntos que pisaron mis ancestros. Puedo ver en el mapa un camino de terraceria que sale de Pegueros rumbo para donde estan Los Magueyes y la Tuna Agria. Al parecer conoces mejor esta area. Mas o menos por donde queda Los Garabatos, si no es mucha molestia la pregunta?

Saludos.

Steve in NC

Published by ElCapitanPaco – Wed, 2014-02-26 00:55 | Permalink

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Yo conozco muy bien a una persona nacida y criada en Tepa, y luego luego le pregunté donde quedaban Los Garabatos, y me dijo que yendo hacia Pegueros, cerca de la Tuna Agria. Yo lo tomé por su palabra ya que conoce muy bien Tepa, Mezcala, Yahualica, Capilla, Pegueros y Valle. Pero luego comencé a dudar e investigué más a fondo.

Si alguna vez hubo un puesto llamado Los Garabatos yendo hacia al norte o sea hacia Pegueros, entonces ya no existe, igual como la Tuna Agria. Ahora nomás quedan ruinas de adobe. Hace poco vi fotos de las ruinas de la Tuna Agria, cuando un pariente fue para alla y tomó fotos. Hay varios puestos que antes existían, pero que ahora ya no, o fueron comprados y se les cambió el nombre. Por eso no se ubican en mapas modernos porque tienen nombres distintos a los que nosotros vemos en los documentos históricos.

Es posible que existieron dos Ranchos del mismo nombre. Considera El Tepozán: hay uno cerca de San Ignacio Cerro Gordo y otro cerca de Acatic; y aún

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Published by victorianonavarro (not verified) – Sun, 2014-02-23 23:20 | Permalink

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According to the book listed below, Garabatos and Isla were ranchos that belonged to Tepatitlán.

La Ciudad y el Campo en Tepatitlán, Jalisco
Carmen Icazuriaga Montes
Universidad de Guadalajara, Campus Universitario de Norte, Centro Universitario de Los Altos, 2002 - Tepatitlán (Mexico) - 219 pages

http://books.google.com.mx/books?id=4pGzAAAAIAAJ&q=tepatitlan+garabatos…

Victoriano Navarro

Help with two names.

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I'm transcribing my 6th great grandparents' marriage record. Franco. de Salazar and Maria Leonor Rodriguez were married in Tepatitlan, Jalisco on October 2, 1730. This is the link.

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Published by Steve_G._Apodaca – Tue, 2014-02-25 21:00 | Permalink

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Thanks, Joseph and Rosa. I really appreciate your help. After looking more closely at the writing on the other documents as you mention, I agree with you. The godparents are Antonio Dias and Lorenza Banegas.

Steve in NC

Published by makas_nc – Sun, 2014-02-23 06:53 | Permalink

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look at the previous page at the bottom you'll see the name Diego Perez. To me the "D" in Diego looks very similar to the first letter in the surname in question. So I'd agree with Rosalinda in that it is Dias. Also if you look on that same line and to the first word you find the name "Ramon" in which the "R" looks very different from the name in question.

joseph

Published by rosa9972 – Sat, 2014-02-22 22:04 | Permalink

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The second name is Lorenza Banegas. I can see how you can read either Rios or Dias for the first one, although I'm inclined to see Dias: the capitalized R's in the other records are shaped differently than your example, and the capitalized D in the previous record most resembles your example. There looks to be a tail on the last vowel of the name, so I would say Dias.

Rosalinda

Help needed on the names of paternal grandparents

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I would appreciate anyone who could tell me the names of the paternal grandparents on the baptism record for Jose Braulio Romulo Luna (last entry on the left-hand page).

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Published by victorianonavarro (not verified) – Tue, 2014-02-25 11:20 | Permalink

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You got the names right, except it is Berdusco (Verduzco) rather than Bendures.
Regards,
Victoriano Navarro

Abbreviations

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Does anyone know if the abbreviations Antto and Antta mean Antonio y Antonia, respectively?

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Published by Steve_G._Apodaca – Tue, 2014-02-25 19:09 | Permalink

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Yes, they do. I've seen them lots of times on my own research and they refer to Antonio and Antonia.

Published by oldcar53 – Mon, 2014-02-24 17:15 | Permalink

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You are correct!! Good job.

Alicia

On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 4:00 PM, wrote:

> Does anyone know if the abbreviations Antto and Antta mean Antonio y
> Antonia, respectively?

FW: Somos Primos February 2014 Vol. 15, issue 2

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http://somosprimos.com/sp2014/spfeb14/spfeb14.htm

Dear Primos and Friends

Thank you to all who have submitted articles for February.

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busqueda en family search

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Hi!!!Does anyone have info on the Martin del campo Family specially on Domingo Martin del Campo (jalisco)???and on Antonio Amaro,Cesario Amaro,Eduvigis Guerrero, Angel Guerrero,Emeteria Guerrero and G

To Steven Hernández - Regarding DIEGO ROMO DE VIVAR & MARIANA DE VILLALOBOS

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Steven,

According to my records I show Nicolás Romo de Vivar and María de
Villalobos had a son named Pedro. It could be a different couple, but the
dates are close.

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Published by ElCapitanPaco – Mon, 2014-02-24 12:40 | Permalink

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Sorry they are NOT the ones. Nicolás Romo de Vivar (y de los Ángeles) y Mariana de Villalobos (y Carrillo de Sandi) & Nicolás Romo de Vivar (y Tiscareño) y María de Villalobos (y Martín del Campo/López de la Cruz) were two completely different, etirely distinct, granted, with almost exactly similar names and obviously related...but not the ones.

Mine are DIEGO ROMO DE VIVAR y MARIANA DE VILLALOBOS (mis octavos abuelos). Diego Romo de Vivar nació hacia 1688 y Mariana de Villalobos nació hacia 1692, ambos posiblemente en Teocaltiche o Aguascalientes. Se casaron hacia 1709. Vivieron en Jalostotitlán y San Juan de los Lagos.

Steven Francisco Hernández López

My first ancestors outside of Jalisco. Rodriguez Aramburo from Nochistlan.

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Hello to everyone. I've been researching my family tree for years and until now, I had found all of my ancestors within the borders of what is now Jalisco.

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Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Sun, 2014-02-23 15:54 | Permalink

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If they are from the same Rodriguez and Aramburu families as mine as I suspect, they may have submitted their marriage information in Tepatitlan or Guadalajara and then gone to Nochistlan, Zacatecas to marry in front of many family members.
R A Ricci

Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Fri, 2014-02-21 17:13 | Permalink

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Hello Steve,

My family is also from Los altos de Jalisco. My first ancestors that I found from out of the state of Jalisco were From Aguascalientes and Zacatecas.

An ancestor of mine Pheliciana Belasquez Aramburo was the daughter of Felipe Velasquez Becerra and Maria Anna Aramburo. They were all born in Tepatitlan
Maria Anna Aramburo is the daughter of Pascual Aramburu and Juana Nuno Gaytan.
Pascual Aramburu was born in Nochistlan, Zacatecas and died in Tepatitlan
Juana Nuno Gaytan was born in Mexticacan Jalisco

Pascual is the son of Diego Aramburo and Maria Anna Geronima Ynaez de Medinilla Alvarado

Diego's great grandmother is Francisca Figueroa y temino de Banuelos and the line goes back for many centuries, too long to post here.

Pascual Aramburo left many descendants in Tepatitlan I did not collect their information but I will go back and gather this information.
There are different Rodriguez lines that I have from Tepatitlan came from Nochistlan Zacatecas. One of them is

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Exclamation Point Next to Name

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Does anyone know what's the meaning of the exclamation point next to a name? For example one of the baptism records reads as follows: "...hijo legitimo de Dn Mig! Gallegos...

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Published by oldcar53 – Sat, 2014-02-22 17:00 | Permalink

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It's probably not an exclamation point, it's most likely an abbreviation
for Miguel. Not seeing the document I can't say for sure, but if you want
to send the link, I bet it's an abbreviation that was commonly used at the
time.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

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Published by mendezdetorres – Sat, 2014-02-22 16:45 | Permalink

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It's not an explanation point, it's a "l" superscript "Migl." Is really Miguel. It's shorthand script the priest used.

Daniel

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