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Brenndan Torres. We have something similar in our family. The DAR recognition was for ancestors in Santa Fe, NM who raised money and gave it to the American Colonists for the War against the British.

A great book on this topic:

Chávez, Thomas E. (2002). Spain and the Independence of the United States:
An Intrinsic Gift. Albuquerque: University of New Mexico Press. ISBN
0-8263-2794-X.

I have moved this thread over to the general@nuestrosranchos.org email
distribution list

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
Clean@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

> -----Original Message-----
> From: research-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org [mailto:research-
> bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On Behalf Of mercado@riverfast.net
> Sent: Tuesday, April 29, 2014 12:13 AM
> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Spanish in The American Revolution
>
> My sister qualified for DAR (Daughters of the American Revolution )
> through several lines. Last summer I discovered she qualified through
> her Spanish line.
>
> Every American learns that the French saved Washington's army in the
> north. But Spain was also in the war against the

Hello DNA cousin Randy,
 
I remember my mother telling me about these ruins.  She was told by the adults to stay away because of evil spirits.  They probably didn't want the kids to disturb the ruins.  I believe they are just outside of the small town of Teocaltitan de Guadalupe which I have visited.  This town is also the site where Santo Pedro Esqueda was martyred during the Cristiada.  He was also the priest who performed the marriage of my maternal grandparents in San Juan de los Lagos.  Unfortunately I have not visited the ruins , but do recall reading that this area was originally an Indian village.
 
Thanks for sharing this,
Irma Gomez Gtz
N. California

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From: rmcneal103@msn.com
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:04:02 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Archaeologists explore ancient ceremonial center        San Juan de los Lagos Mexican

Nineteen kilometers from San Juan de los Lagos, where the second

Hello DNA cousin Randy,
 
I remember my mother telling me about these ruins.  She was told by the adults to stay away because of evil spirits.  They probably didn't want the kids to disturb the ruins.  I believe they are just outside of the small town of Teocaltitan de Guadalupe which I have visited.  This town is also the site where Santo Pedro Esqueda was martyred during the Cristiada.  He was also the priest who performed the marriage of my maternal grandparents in San Juan de los Lagos.  Unfortunately I have not visited the ruins , but do recall reading that this area was originally an Indian village.
 
Thanks for sharing this,
Irma Gomez Gtz
N. California

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From: rmcneal103@msn.com
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Wednesday, April 30, 2014 7:04:02 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Archaeologists explore ancient ceremonial center        San Juan de los Lagos Mexican

Nineteen kilometers from San Juan de los Lagos, where the second

Thank you for this article. I'll have to see if anything else has been
published about Teocaltitan.

Alicia,
San Jose, Ca

On Wed, Apr 30, 2014 at 7:04 AM, wrote:

> Nineteen kilometers from San Juan de los Lagos, where the second most
> frequented sanctuary in Mexico is located, archaeologists from the National
> Institute of Anthropology and History (INAH), unravel a piece of pre
> Hispanic past which is today known as Los Altos de Jalisco, by the
> excavation of an ancient ceremonial center known as Teocaltitan.
> At least 23 architectonic structures that were built 1500 years ago,
> between 450 and 900 AD, are distributed in the 20 acres that make up the
> highest part of the Teocaltitan hill.
> To archaeologist Marisol Montejano Esquivias, director of the project,
> what makes this job in Teocaltitan the most gratifying is that it
> represents a preserved space in an archaeological context.”
> “The interesting thing about Teocaltitan, apart from having Teotihuacan
> influence

In Mexico City, it felt quite hard, no damages report

On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 8:20 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:

>
> Just wanted to pass this along in case you have relatives in Guerrero:
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: USGS ENS [mailto:ens@ens.usgs.gov]
> Sent: Friday, April 18, 2014 11:07 AM
> To: makas@nc.rr.com
> Subject: 2014-04-18 14:27:29 UPDATED: (M7.5) GUERRERO, MEXICO 17.6 -100.7
> (107d)
>
> == PRELIMINARY EARTHQUAKE REPORT ==
>
>
>
> Region: GUERRERO, MEXICO
> Geographic coordinates: 17.585N, 100.741W
> Magnitude: 7.5
> Depth: 48 km
> Universal Time (UTC): 18 Apr 2014 14:27:29
> Time near the Epicenter: 18 Apr 2014 07:27:29
> Local standard time in your area: 18 Apr 2014 14:27:29
>
> Location with respect to nearby cities:
> 37 km (22 mi) N of Tecpan de Galeana, Mexico
> 53 km (32 mi) NW of Atoyac de Alvarez, Mexico
> 56 km (34 mi) E of

Randy,

The document reads as follows:

Information made at petition of friar Diego de Temino, dominican cleric, ("de sur el" appears to be an error in transcription, it means, "him from the south") and on behalf of his brother Bartolome de Temino y Banuelos, descendants of the honorable house of Temino, and consequently of well known nobility (hijos hidalgos). Monastery of Rodilla, July 10, 1561. Followed by writings regarding the founding of the primogeniture granted to Alonso Ruiz de Temiño and Doña Sancha Velasco his wife, by power of king Henry IV, in Segovia on december 21, 1465. Temino township of la Bureba, October 12, 1470. Genealogical information of Bartolome de Temino y Banuelos follows. Zacatecas, June 10, 1589. Certified copy granted in Mexico in the year 1709. M-66, pages 211-427.

Jaime Alvarado

Informacion hecha a peticion de fray Diego de Temino, religioso domico, de sur el y su hermano Bartolome de Temino y Banuelos, descendientes de la casa fuerte de Temino

Gloria Casillas, Tienes nombre de los padres o de la esposa? para hacer mas facil la busqueda

Hello Deedra and León:

Firstly, Deedra I've been trying to connect your Juan Rosales Mejía with my ancestors and here is what I have, hope this helps you. I looked at your ancestors marriage certificate in Ejutla in 26 Feb 1726, the record only states that they were "velados" but it doesn't mention they were "casados", I see you have another date for Autlán, some months before and I imagine that certificate doesn't mention too the names of their parents. I see the padrinos were Agustín Rosales Mejía and Gertrudis de las Ruelas, I imagine this could be the Agustín that was the son of Manuel Rosales Mejía and María de Contreras y Vízcaino. If that, Juan could be maybe the brother of Agustín that was baptized on 1677 but by the date he married in 1728 he should have had 52 years and he would be really old by that time. Well, by now that is what I have. I'll be searching for other possibilities and also for your Amayas', I haven't also succeeded with mine.

León, as a first thought I

Hello Deedra:

I was the one who posted the topic about the Amaya's. My ancestors were Juan José Olivera and Juana María Amaya, I have four registered sons from them going from 1772 to 1779 all from Autlán. No more info. about this couple.

I'm Rosales Mejía too, my ancestor was Antonio Rosales married with Gertrudis Caro y Rentería (I don't have her parents) and Antonio's parentes were Manuel Rosales Mejía and María de Contreras y Vízcaino, she is a descendant from Sebastián Vízcaino, possibly a natural son of the viceroy Luis de Velasco y Ruíz de Alarcón. Have you any further information about Manuel Rosales Mejía? or from the origin of the Rosales Mejía family? I don't know from where does this compound surname comes from.

Besides this, I have Arechiga also in my family tree.

I will really aprecciate if you have any of these answers.

Thanks in advance.
Enrique Agraz

David Serna
Tengo esta familia en mi base de datos. Probablemente porque yo estaba esperando a encontrar la conexión con la familia Gallegos en Jaltiches, Santos o El Papanton.

Antonio Gallegos n. ABT 1807 esposo de Julia Romo; Hijo de Nepomuceno y esposa de Carmen Calvillo. El es la famila de mi padrino y buenos amigos de mi padre que cuenta 92 anos.
O Dioncicio "Nicho" Gallegos n. 1800 esposa de Jesus Perez. Tambien familia de mi papa. ¿Los tiene en su base de datos?
Voy a revisar este fin de semana..... que tenía pensando para dar atención a Matrimonios y Informacion Matrimonial si le da informacion del origen de la familia. Tal vez la revisión de otras familias Gallegos en San Felipe, Gto. le ayudará.

Mi familia es de La Serna, Esqueda, Perezchica, y Ibarra. Desde Media Luna, Las Moras, Mesa Grande, La Presa, Arroyo de Soto, y El Agostadero .... Mi base de datos tiene mas de 5000 personas.
  Buena suerte, David.

I have this family in my database. Probably

This is how I read this entry:

...con Victoriana Martinez, española de 32 años, natural de la Mesa
del Fraile y vecina de Juanacati[c] diez y seis años ha viuda de
primeras nuncias de D. Pedro Yanos Valdes, cuyo cuerpo esta sepultado
en esta parroquia cinco meses ya.

...with Victoriana Martinez, española (not that she was born in Spain,
but a designation to indicate pureza de sangre and "not Indian or
mixed blood")
of 32 years old, born at Mesa del Fraile (up near Zacatecas, in Mezquitic mcpo)
and neighbor (resident) of Juanactic for 16 years (one of the original
7 haciendas near Totatiche, dating from the 1590's)
widowed of her first church marriage to Don Pedro Yanos Valdes whose
body has been buried in this parish for five months now.

I'm kinda new at reading these old documents, but this is what I got from it.

I'm new to the group, too. Hi!

~Sandra

On 4/30/13, rvr_jr@msn.com wrote:
> My 4th great grandparents' marriage record:
>
> https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1

Rose,
I have a Carlos Lomelin born about 1584 in Genova, Genova, Italy and married to a Maria Benavides in about 1609, Nochistlan, Zacatecas, Mexico. They had one daughter named Juana Lomelin who married Francisco Gutierrez Rubio about 1651, in Nochistlan, Zacatecas. Francisco was born about 1610 in Jalostotitlán, Jalisco.

Maria Elena Gutierrez-Uhlenburg (Sacramento, CA)
fuccifeet@sbcglobal.net

Rose Hardy wrote:

Does anyone know of any books, websites, passenger ship records regarding Italians immigrating to Mexico say during the late 1500's to early 1800's? I've checked out the Archivos Espanoles En Red website: http://aer.mcu.es/sgae/index_aer.jsp to see if I could find my Italian ancestors who settled in Mexico, via Spain, but have come up with a big zero. I have a copy of the book " La Emigracion Castellana y Leonesa al Nuevo Mundo 1517-1700" by Maria del Carmen Martinez Martinez and nothing in there as well.

The surnames involved are Lomellin, Lomelli (Carlos

Rose,

Here is a quote from the prologue by Mariano Gonzalez Leal in the book, Los Duran de Nochistlan.

" Tambien hubo en Nochistlán, sangre Genovesa, como la de los Lavezzari-aqui conocidos por Lavezares, de quienes atrás hemos hablado-y la de los Lomellini -aqui reputados Lomelines-, Carlos de Lomelin, a quien en la Relacion del siglo XVII se le hace, curiosamente, español de los Reinos de Genova, procedia de una de las siete Casas Nobles de Génova, y fue estanciero próspero en Mexticacán. Establecido alli por 1624, casó con doña Maria de Benavides, descendiente del viejo linaje Nochistlense de ese apellido, habiendo nacido de alli cinco vástagos: Gaspar, Carlos, Juana, Domingo y Maria.

Juana casó en Nochistlán el 12 de Septiembre de 1621 con Rodrigo de Carbajal y Ulloa; y viuda, pasó a segundas nupcias con el Jalostitlense Don Francisco Gutiérrez de Hermosillo, hijo del capitán Francisco Gutiérrez Rubio y de Doña Leonor de Hermosillo. Por estas vias, gran parte de

I use Geneanet.org. The free version is pretty powerful and easy to use, you can upload/download your full gedcom files, it creates very useful lists, charts, maps, privacy is completely customizable, and my favorite part is the custom graphic trees (some are beautiful!). The site works in many different languages at the selection from a drop-down box. You get alerts for matches among other geneanet trees and even for connections in other databases. The site is developed/managed in France and so is all originally in French, but again, use the drop-down selection to choose English, Spanish, etc, 10 languages in all. I like using it very much, check it out and see if it'll suit your needs.

Sandra Velez

ancestry.com is excellent. It's free and you can make it private if you want to, I let's you invite family/friends and upload photos, create stories, videos, and add citations such as baptisms, marriages, deaths.

Jose Carlos de Leon

Hi Mia

Francisco Xavier de Medina married Francisca Bernales in
Aguascalientes on 11 Jun 1732. According to the marriage document he is the son
of Francisco de Medina and Doña Antonia Laredo de Sotomayor:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-11605-22954-49?cc=1502404&…
 
Francisco de Medina married Doña Antonia Laredo de Sotomayor
in Aguascalientes on 20 Jan 1702. According to the marriage record, Francisco
de Medina is the son of Cristobal de Medina and Maria de Avila. Doña Antonia
Laredo de Sotomayor is the daughter of Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor and Doña
Juana de Laris:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11671-66481-86?cc=1502404&…
 
Captain Juan Laredo de Sotomayor married Doña Juana de Laris
in Aguascalientes on 14 Nov 1667. They seemed to travel between San Luis Potosi
and Aguascalientes since some children were baptized in Aguascalientes and some
in San Luis Potosi, including Doña

Tecomatlán es un rancho que está situado en la parroquia de ZAPOTLANEJO, pero también aparece en los registros de Tototlán, Poncitlán, y hasta a veces Tepatitlán u Ocotlán. Está entre Zapo, Tepa, Ponci y Toto, y por eso a veces aparece en los archivos de los cuatro pueblos. Tototlán es una tragedia genealógica porque como ya sabes, hubo una pérdida total de muchísimos archivos parroquiales, cosa que casi imposibilita la investigación genealógica.

En Zapotlanejo existieron diversas ramas de la familia Lomelín, y seguido aparecen en los archivos parroquiales de Zapo. Estos Lomelines vinieron de las ramas originarias de Nochistlán/Mexticacán, y por tal son descendientes de Carlos de Lomelín (Carlo Lomellini). Luego se asentaron en LOS MORALES, entre Ocotlán y Tototlán. Ya después, en las próximas generaciones se trasladaron a Tecomatlán y otros puestos cercanos.

Busca en ZAPOTLANEJO. Antes de los 1830, los matrimonios no están indexados pero algunos bautismos sí. Tendrás que

Harry Mercado

I too descend from this lively place, wherever it is.

The baptismal record of my 3rd ggrandmother, Maria Guadelupe Luna on 21 Sept, 1762 in Tepechitlan notes that the parents, Calletano de Luna and Barbara de Hererra were residents of this Rancho. Her father's name is variously listed phonetically as Cayetano or Caetano.

Gus, Thank you for this great information, and for taking the time to share your research. No need to apologize for a late response, this is all valuable information for me. Also, I have several branches of Miramontes. I shall check it out.
Gracias, /hs

gusmeza wrote: To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
From: gusmeza
Date: Mon, 20 Aug 2007 11:39:08 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Rancho del Muerto-12 Feb 2006 Posting Revisited

I was reviewing a 12 Feb 2006 posting regarding Santos Luna's question of the whereabouts of Rancho del Muerto. I did not read it then and apologize for this late response. I ran across what I believe is probably the same rancho referred to as simply "el Muerto" in the margin of a Tepechitlan baptismal manuscript dated 11 Aug 1776. That year Josepha Dominga Luna Miramontes was baptized. The parents were Antonio Miramontes and Victoria de Luna.

I can't answer the question of where this rancho is located but the reason I researched this

David Serna I have about 20 in my database all from the Calvillo, Ags Area.

Where is your family from ?

David,

I descend from the Frausto. I have found originally it was espanol, but due to the mixture they went from mestizo, etc. They populated heavily in Huejucar (Calvillo) and the surrounding reagions. Please feel free to email me.

Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino

Antonio Frausto is the widow of Paulina Martínez, who was buried two years earlier. This is the common format for this kind of record.

I believe the place name is "Río de Ajojúcar", (accents added) which I think is just east of Villa Hidalgo in Teocaltiche. There was an hacienda Ajojúcar in the same vicinity, and Guia Roji has a modern day village of San Ajojúcar.

As for the alias ... names changed for so many reasons it may be fruitless to even guess.

Stuart Armstrong

Juan Diaz de Leon

Primera generación

1. Juan Diaz de Leon nació en 1591 en Pinos, Jalisco, Mexico.

Juan se casó con Francisca de Ortega. Francisca nació en Pinos, Jalisco, Mexico.

Ellos tuvieron los hijos siguientes:

2 M i. Pedro Diaz de Leon y Ortega nació aproximadamente en 1618.

+ 3 M ii. Juan Diaz de Leon nació aproximadamente en 1620.

4 F iii. Maria Diaz de Leon y Ortega nació estimado 1620.
Maria se casó con Hedrnan Perez de Moxica.

+ 5 F iv. Antonia Diaz de Leon y Ortega nació estimado 1619.

6 M v. Luis Diaz de Leon y Ortega nació estimado 1621.

7 M vi. Antonio Diaz de Leon y Ortega nació el 26 Mayo 1621 en Pinos.

8 M vii. Joseph Diaz de Leon y Ortega nació el 13 Junio 1630 en Pinos.

Segunda generación

3. Juan Diaz de Leon (Juan) nació aproximadamente en 1620.

Juan se casó (1) Juana Trujillo y Tavera.

Ellos tuvieron los hijos siguientes:

+ 9 M i. Nicolas Diaz de Leon y Trujillo.

10 M ii. Juan Diaz de Leon y Trujillo.
Juan se casó con Lorenza de Loza