Buenos dias a todos
Estoy buscando mis antepasados paternos de Zacatecas y estoy bloqueado en la séptima generación y me gustaría entrar en contacto quien pueda ayudarme a continuar mis búsquedas.
I am seeking information on the Longoria family from Zacatecas. My son-in-law's grandfather is Arturo F. Longoria, born about 1927 in Zacatecas.
So, I presented my research to my son-in-law; it was the wrong Longoria family. There were two Longoria families, bother from Sombrerete, Zacatecas who immigrated to the US and settled in Anthony, NM/TX. My son-in-law is the son of Jose Longoria who is the son of Alberto Longoria who married Maria Eldia Rubalcava. Alberto is the son of Jose Ines Longoria, son of Sixto Longoria. I could find no intersection between the two Longoria families, but there must be one before 1800.
Thom Sloan
Thom,
This is the Longoria branch that your son in law descends from:
José María Vasquez and Gregoria de Santa Cruz are the parents of Ponciana Vasquez
Felipe Longoria and Maria Isabel Josefa Muñoz are the parents of Sixto Longoria Muñoz
Sixto Longoria Muñoz and Ponciana Vasquez Santa Cruz are the parents of Jose Ines Longoria Vasquez
Francisco Conde Cervantes and Josefa Lozano Santa Cruz are the parents of Teodora Conde Lozano
Jose Ines Longoria Vasquez and Teodora Conde Lozano are the parents of Alberto Longoria Conde
Alberto Longoria Conde and María Eldia Rubalcava (daughter of Antonio Rubalcava and Bernardina Farango) are the parents of Jose Longoria
Dionicio Conde (aka Dionicio Castillo Conde) and María Luciana Cervantes are the parents of Francisco Conde Cervantes
Dionicio Conde (Castillo Conde) is the natural son of Castor De la Cruz
Gil Lozano and Luisa Santa Cruz are the parents of Josefa Lozano Santa Cruz
Rick A. Ricci
Jorge,
Do you have Cenobia’s death record. If her name was originally Angeles then you may try looking for María de Los Angeles Longoria.
Jose Rosalio Minchaca Zamora and Cenobia Longoria Castañon are the parents of at least three: Edmundo, Roberto and Hector.
Rick A. Ricci
Rick,
I found their marriage certificate; Rosalio Minchaca Zamora (my grandfather) and Cenobia Longoria Castañon got married on September 11th 1900 in Sombrerete Zacatecas. The first name appears as Cenobia and not Angeles, I also found some of their children’s birth certificates and they all show that their mother’s first name was Cenobia. (In some matches from MyHeritage she appears as Senobia).
They were:
Edmundo Minchaca Longoria, born in 1902
Roberto Minchaca Longoria, born on September 20th, 1903
Eduardo Minchaca Longoria, born on September 8th, 1905
Maria Ernestina Minchaca Longoria, born on January 11th, 1908
Emma Minchaca Longoria, born on October 21st, 1909
Maria Aurora Minchaca Longoria, born on October 27th, 1911
Héctor Minchaca Longoria, born on August 15th, 1915 (my father)
Sergio Minchaca Longoria, born and deceased in 1920
Rodrigo Minchaca Longoria, born and deceased at unknown dates.
Jorge Minchaca
Hi Jorge,
Great news that you found Rosalio and Cenobias marriage record. There are two civil marriage records. I don’t know which of the two civil marriage records you found. One record doesn’t name their parents, but the second marriage record does. Here it is:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G522-S738?i=279&cc=191…
Rick A. Ricci
Hi Rick,
Thank you for your message.
Yes, this is the record I found. For once, it is very well written and all of the information is very clear.
Regards.
Jorge
Luis Longoria Castañon and his wife Ascencion are the parents of Manuel, Amalia, Andres, and Nicolas.
Salvador Longoria Castañon and His wife Juliana Ramirez de Longoria are the parents of Rosa and Miguel.
Here is the 1920 census that provides this information along with their ages:
https://www.familysearch.org/search/record/results?q.givenName=Luis&q.s…
Rick A. Ricci
The census record show the date and where Leovigia Flores de Longoria was born. It shows her as a widow with her daughter, Guadalupe.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:MQZ8-J55
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-95HF-4JQ?i=3026&cc=192…
Esposa María del Refugio Sánchez
Fecha: 30Aug/1989 Chihuahua
Could this be him? However the birthdate seems to be much too soon
Name: Arturo Longoria
[Arturo Longoria Flores]
Gender: Hombre (Male)
Birth Date: 28 nov. 1911
Birth Registration Place: Sombrerete, Zacatecas, México (Mexico)
Registration Date: 14 dic. 1911 (14 Dec 1911)
Father: Benigno Longoria
Mother: Leovigilda Flores
Page Number: 111
Volume 1910-12
There another Arturo Longoria, but his birth is much too late.
Benigno Longoria es hijo de Faustino Longoria y Dominga Castañon
Leovigilda Flores es hija de Ladislao Flores y Patrocinia Díaz
Faustino es hijo de Geronimo Longoria y Francisca Trejo
Dominga es hija de José Claro Castañon y Aniceta Maena (Mena)
Ladislao es hijo de Ventura Flores Y Patrocina Medina
Patrocina Diaz es hija De Vicente Diaz y Clemencia Zamora
Rick A. Ricci
My grandmother was known as Senobia Longoria but as far as I know her real first name was Angeles, I undestood that her parents were Faustino Longoria Trejo and Dominga Castañon, but she died in 1978 at the age of 97 which brings her to be born in 1881. I also understand that Faustino was born in 1884, therefore it cannot be his father.
I know that she had a brother named Salvador Longoria, married to Guadalupe Dominguez.
Does anyone know something about this?
Jorge
(I'm new in this forum and looking for my Zacatecas ancestors Minchaca & Longoria)
Jorge,
The Faustino Longoria Trejo that is Married to Dominga Castañon was not born in 1881. His children were born around that date.
Salvador Longoria Castañon was born 13/July/1890 at Sombrerete, Zacatecas. He crossed the USA/Mexico border into the USA on 27/Sep1946 at El Paso, Texas
Here is a link to his application for a border crossing ID card: https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M-C9B2-SQL4-2?cc=3155856…
It seems that Salvador Longoria Castañon lived for many years in Chihuahua and that he had a prior marriage before Guadalupe Dominguez. He was deported at one time prior to this application and in that record he has a different wife.
Salvador had an older brother Luis that he lived with for a time in Yuma, Arizona. He can be found there in the 1920 census.
In this record there is a picture of him and it names his wife as Juliana Ramirez and it says he has two children:
Thanks Rick,
That means that my grandmother Senobia/Cenobita (Angeles) was another sister of Salvador, Luis, Maria Concepcion, Geronimo and Benigno.
I also know that Salvador married Guadalupe Dominguez and had 12 children, one of them is Mabel Longoria Dominguez who lived in Durango with my grand parents then migrated to El Paso and lives now in San Antonio.
Jorge
Jorge,
Geronimo isn’t their brother, he is their grandfather as he is the father of Faustino Longoria.
Tell me more about your grandmother, who she married, where she lived, and any clues that I can use to try to track her down.
1)- Geronimo Longoria married Francisca Trejo and they are the parents of Faustino
2)- Faustino Longoria married Dominga Castañon and they are the parents of
3). Luis, Benigno, Salvador, Maria Concepcion, and Senobia. They may have more siblings as those are only the ones that we have identified up to now.
Rick A. Ricci
Thomas
These records are indexed at Ancestry, but not at FamilySearch. However, the link to the record at Family Search is https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-952P-269?i=421&cc=1916…
This is from the Sobrerete Civil Birth Records for 1910-12, and is image 422.
George
Welcome to nuestrosranchos,
Jose Sixto Cuellar married on 2/Oct/1808 in Ojuelos, Jalisco to María Felipa Sánchez
Rick A. Ricci
Diego Alonso and Maria Gertudis are the parents of José María Alonso (senior).
Dario (?) Reyes and Maria Lauriana are the parents of Maria Dolores Reyes.
José María Alonso (senior) and Maria Dolores Reyes are the parents of José María Alonso (Junior) (Some records seem like they are written Roxas but the surname was originally Reyes.
Pedro Nolasco Ortiz and Aniceta López are the parents of Maria Antonia Ortis y Lopez
José María Alonso y Reyes and Maria Antonia Ortis are married on 1/Feb/1849, in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco.
https://sg30p0.familysearch.org/service/records/storage/dascloud/das/v2…
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-QJS4-FF?i=354&cc=18745…
Nicolas Ortis and Juana Gertrudis Lira are the parents of Pedro Nolasco Ortis
Jose Lopez and Juana Nuñez are the parents of Aniceta Lopez
Juan de Los Santos Ortiz and Luisa de la
Hello everyone. My name is Carlos, I live in Michigan and I am a first generation American to parents born in San Ignacio Cerro Gordo, Jalisco. I'm glad to be a part of and contribute to this group.
Bacilio Medina (18) is the son Jose Ana Medina and Cirila Samudio
Jose Ana Medina is the son of Pioquinto Medina and Juana Gómez
Cirila Samudio is the daughter of Zenón Samudio and Dominga Vasquez
Macedonio Hernández and Epifanía Balvanera
Macedonio is the son of Juan Jose Hernández and Antonia Rodríguez
Epifanía is the daughter of Gerardo Balvanera and Remigia Vasquez
Juan Jose Hernández is the son of Felipe Timoteo Hernández and Ma. Candelaria Veles (Vela).
Antonia is the daughter of Pedro Rodríguez and Joaquina Salgado
Ma. Candelaria Vela is the daughter of Juan Jose Antonio (Velia) Vela and Ma. Juana Gómez.
Felipe Timoteo Hernández is the son of Feliz (Felix) Clemente Hernández and Felipa Garcia
My grandfather is a third cousin to Santo Toribio Romo. You are also related to Santo Toribio Romo.
Rick A. Ricci
Hello Carlos,
Here are some more of your ancestors:
Silviano Medrano Cuevas and Maria Vasquez married on 24/July/1923
Silviano Medrano (1904- d. 27/Dec/1874) is the son of Sixto Medrano and Alvina Medina
Maria Vasquez is the daughter of Cristoval Vasquez and Maria Trinidad Angel
Sixto Medrano and Alvina Medina married on 1/June/1889.
Sixto Medrano (d. 11/Oct/1948)is the son of Salomé Medrano and Isabel cuevas
Alvina Medina (16/Dec/1869 Valle de Gpe) is the daughter of Juan Medina and Juliana Gutierrez. Juan and Juliana were married on 14/Sep/1860, Arandas.
Juan Medina is the son of Bacilio Medina and Agustina Hernández
Juliana Gutierrez is the daughter of José María Gutierrez and Francisca Angel
Agustina is the daughter of Macedonio Hernández and Epifanía Valvaneda
José María Gutierrez is the son of Juan Jose Gutierrez and Victoriana Dolores Nieves (married 28/May/1783, Tepa)
Maria Francisca Angel is the daughter of José María Ángel and Manuela Flores
Dear Carlos,
It turns out that we are fith cousins. You descend from a half sister of my ancestor Pablo Romo Gutierrez by the name of Maria Norberta de Jesus Romo.
Here is some of your ancestry:
Cosme Martinez Hernández is the son of J. Asencion Martinez and Lorenza Hernández
Maria Irene (Irinea) Navarro is the daughter of J. Isabel Navarro and Marcelina Cabrera
J. Isabel Navarro (d. 20/Jan/1837, 62 years old )Is the son of Ignacio Navarro and Angela Gomez
Marcelina Cabrera Daughter of Leonardo Cabrera Grimaldo and Jacinta Gonzalez
Leonardo Cabrera Grimaldo (b.1845-d. 15/June /1905) is the son of Felipe Cabrera and Maria Grimaldo
Jacinta Gonzalez is the daughter of Epifanio Gonzalez and Maria Norberta de Jesus Romo
Ignacio Navarro is the son of Simon Navarro Gonzalez and Virginia (Higinia)Gutierrez De la Torre.
Angela Gomez is the daughter of Albino Gómez and Nazaria Martin
Epifanio González Romo is the son of Juan de Dios Gonzalez Jimenez and Maria Fulgencia
Hello Carlos,
Your post is 2 and a half years old and I don’t know how far you have gone in your research. You are a distant cousin of mine. You repeatedly descend from the Hernández Gamino family. Here is some information on your family:
Sabino Hernández González (d.15/July/1947) is the son of J. Guadalupe Hernández-Gamino y Padilla and Sirila (Cirila) González y Valdivia. When he passes away he left his wife Guadalupe Hernández a widow. Sabino Hernández had been married first to Maria de Jesus Vivanco.
Maria Guadalupe Hernández (b, 12/Oct/1899)is the daughter of Jose Concepcion Hernández and Maria Dolores Lopez. She was also previously married as she was a widow of Juan Hernández Hernández when she married Sabino. Her first marriage was on 23/Feb/1922. Juan’s parents are Hilario Hernández and Maria Nieves Hernández.
Sabino and Maria Guadalupe were married on 25/Jun/1931 in Arandas, Jalisco, Mexico.
https://sg30p0.familysearch.org/service/records/storage/dascloud/das/v2
Carlos,
Since you're just getting started, try the following steps. Locate the civil birth and civil marriage records of your grandparents and great grandparents in the civil records for Arandas using ancestry.com, where they're searchable. Those records include San Ignacio Cerro Gordo and they may provide you with the names of your 2x great grandparents. At that point you can then begin to trace your lines further back by using the parish records for Arandas and Ayotlán (formerly Ayo el Chico).
Good luck.
I have read through searching on here that all or most of the Hernandez the Los Altos sur region stem from the Hernández Gamiño line. (Here:http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/22428)
Can anyone here help me confirm or deny this, please? My great-grandfather is Sabino Hernandez-Gonzales born in Hacienda Guadalupe probably in the early 1900's. I don't know anything beyond him.
Any help is greatly appreciated.
Hello Carlos,
You don’t provide much information to guide a search into your ancestors. Not all the Hernandez in Los Altos sur region descend from the Hernandez Gamino. The H and the F were interchangeable a couple of centuries ago so some of my Hernandez ancestors were more often known as Fernandez De Rueda which are not from the Hernandez Gamino family.
I would recommend that you gather as much information and records on your grandparents and great uncles and aunts as you can, and use this information to guide your next steps. It is important that you start with your own parents and their siblings records to see if they provide more information on your grandparents.
Good luck,
R.A.Ricci
Thank for the response and guidance. It is greatly appreciated. I have all but one grandparent left, which makes gathering [accurate] information difficult.
Thank you for the direction and links! Cheers!
Thank you for the response. For the time being I am trying to follow my Hernandez lineage as far as I can.
I will try to get some answers out of my remaining grandfather. I'll see if he remembers his grandparent's names, or anything else helpful.
For the time being, I know my great grandfather was Sabino Hernandez-Gonzales(z), born in Hacienda de Guadalupe (Municipality of Arandas) whom passed away around 86 years of age. He was married to Guadalupe Hernandez, born in Arandas whom passed away around 80 years of age. All according to my grandfather.
I was able to find a couple results on Ancestry.com for Sabino Hernandez-Gonzales(z), but cannot find a connection to my grandfather (his son).
Your grandfather.’s parents and grandparents are most likely listed in his baptismal or birth records. Sometimes these records even have great-grandparents. If your grandfather was related to his wife then there may be more information in a marriage dispensation. Ask your grandfather for the names and dates of his siblings. If you can’t find your grandfather’s records then you should look for his sibling’s records.
You can also check out those death records as they often have additional information. You don’t provide any dates so it would be difficult for others to help you without additional information that will help identify your ancestors.
I don't know about Arandas, but in the Colotlan area where my family is from they list grandparents on the Civil Registration marriage records from about 1860-1920. I would try and locate your great grandparents' marriage record. Usually, grandparents are also on the baptisms starting about 1800 and on the birth records.
This is for Linda Castanon-Long and Danny C. Alonso
I'm interested in the information on Adulfa Tadeo Briseño and Jose Antonio Garcia, but somehow I'm unable to access Linda's information on Rootsweb. Would you be so kind to share with me what you've found?
Thank you very much!
Hector
Trunk...Juan Antonio Garcia
Ma. Gabriela Garcia......,
..Rafael Garcia ..siblings 1st
Luz Cabrera Garcia.......,..Ma. Estefana Garcia.....2nd
Ma. Justa Cabrera...........Maximiliano Garcia Cadena.....3rd
Js. Victor Gonzales groom...Margarita Garcia Cadena ..4th
.
In error I had Juan Antonio listed ad Garcia de la Cadena
In fact is was Juan Antonio Garcia…
Juan Antonio had a son Rafael
Who had a daughter Estefana married to Juan Nepomuceno Garcia
They had a son who went by Maximiliano Garcia de la Cadena
His Father Juan Nepomuceno Garcia son of Pedro Jose Garcia de la Cadena.
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Thanks a lot! It might have been that I looked for Briseño, and not Briceño.
In any case, you've already clarified my doubts, because I couldn't find the connection between Juan Antonio García and the Garcia de la Cadena family. It happens to be down the line.
Thank you very much and best regards,
Hector
Hi Linda,
Is the Juan Antonio Garcia that's married to Adolfa Tadea Briseno as far back as you go? I've been stuck on both of them for several years and wondered if the tree goes back any further?
Danny
I have not found parents or ancestors for either Juan Antonio or Adulfa Tadea..
Linda
I tried using Rootsweb to find Erlinda's tree, and for some reason, Ancestry (they own Rootsweb) did something to make it stop working. You may want to contact Erlinda directly to find out more.
Thank you su much. I just don't know hoy to contact her.
Hi Hector,
I think if you click on her name it gives you the option of sending her an email message. I've done it before with other members.
Danny
I am happy to share whatever I have with you. I do not have an ancestry account but I use their software so members can see my data but not my resource records and I don't know why you have not
been able to see my complete files on Rootsweb.
my e-mail is
Linda Castanon-Long
I'm wondering since my spelling is different could be the reason you could not se a record for Briceno..I see you have it spelled Briseno..
Linda Castanon-Long
I have not received any e-mails of forum posts for quite a while. So, I went into my account settings, and all three forums are set to send me all messages. So, my account settings are correct.
I believe there was an announcement that the e-mails would be discontinued since they were not working for everyone. Now you have to go to the website to read the messages.
Hola a todos:
Dear Enrique,
I have found the parents of Francisco Caro Galindo and I have solved the reason his daughter Magdalena used the last name "de la Cueva."
His parents are disclosed in Franciso's will, dated 5 Apr 1641 in Guadalajara Nueva Galicia. A fragment of it is quoted in Alonso Davalos Bracamonte's Application to be a Knight of Santiago. Their names are Hernan Caro Galindo and Mariana de la Cueva. I therefore now suspect that Mariana was related to the de la Cueva family in from Ubeda and Southern Spain. I quote the will as rendered in the Application:
"'En el nombre de Dios todoPoderoso amen sepan q.tos esta Carte de Testam.to vieren como Yo Fran.co Caro Galindo Vez.o de esta Ziud. de Guadalajara, Nuevo Rey.o de Galicia, y natural de la Villa de Carmona q oi es Ziu.d en Adalucia hijo lej{itimo de henan Caro Galindo, y de Da. Mariana de la Cueva mis. Pes.= al fo. 25 siguiente en al segunda partida, Dice = 'Soy casado Segunda Vez segun horden de la St.a Me. Yglesia con Da. Isavel
Enrique,
I found another generation back of the Caro Galindo line. I found the will of Fernan/Hernan Caro Galindo, father of Francisco Caro Galindo. It was also in the file for Alonso Davalos Bracamonte when he applied to become a Knight of Santiago. It is an important document because it gives the parents of Hernan, and therefore the grandparents of Francisco Caro Galindo. They are Francisco Caro Galindo and Leonor de Sanctaella. Her name may be archaeic, and actually now be spelled Santaella. Bu the will also lists their children, which in typical 16th century fashion do not all bear the name of the father, but had a last name chosen for them.
http://pares.mcu.es/ParesBusquedas20/catalogo/show/1341108?nm
Image 289
ante Juan de Medina 20 May 1576 en Carmona:
" 'en el nombre de Dios amen. Sepan q.tos esta carta de testam.to e ultima voluntad vieren Como yo Fernan Caro Galindo hijo de fran.co caro Galindo y de Leonor de Sanctaella su lexitima muger mis padres e señores defuntos
Hi Sergio,
Thanks for sharing this with the group. This is a big find! I descend from Dávalos Bracamonte twice, namely the first Count of Miravalle and his brother Diego Dávalos Bracamonte. Their great grandchildren Cor. Antonio Dávalos Bracamonte, Señor de las villas de Melezna, Cadasresnas, Ornija y Viariz would marry his second cousin Josefa Marín del Valle y Dávalos Bracamonte.
A few questions: why would there be two children with identical first names, but distinct surnames. Juan de la Cueva and Juan Caro Galindo. This proves that the de la Cueva surname carried some type of importance in this family, for a male who is Caro Galindo to prefer his maternal name. Was he a namesake? I too suspect, it is the same de la Cueva family in Andalucía. These branches seem to have intermarried in Nueva Galicia.
A descendant of Francisco Caro Galindo and Isabel de Castro y Mesa, was Nicolasa de Camberos y Tolosa who married Agustín de la Cueva ca. 1680 and suspect these two are related
I have found a Marriage church record in Magdalena Jalisco of Diego Caro Galindo son of Fernando Caro Galindo and Angela de Renteria dated March 1st 1699 He married Mariana Melendez viuda de Garcia Monrroy, there are also records of Joseph and Antonio Caro Galindo about the same year.
Thank you
Hoy, hace noventa y cuatro años fallecía en el castillo de Bouchout la que fuera emperatriz de Méjico, doña Carlota.
Hola prim@s,
Manny,
this is great information. i descend from Gines de Carrion y Mata. does it give anymore of his ancestry. or how he descends from Pedro de Mata? is it through his paternal or maternal side.
Also is this Juana Martel, the wife of the Portuguese, Miguel de Sierra, that abandoned his wife Juana to live with his previous wife who he had told everyone was dead?
Francisca Temino is also an ancestor of mine. Both of them, there's one married to Gines de Carrion y Mata and one married to Juan Ramírez de la Campaña, they may actually be the same person but i have them born about 15 years apart. although both are listed as relatives of Angela Velasco.
Hi Danny,
I’m sorry, those are the only clues Gines de Carrion gives, in regards to his pedigree, and I don’t know who his nor his wife’s parents are. Nor do I know who Juana Martel aka Maria Martel is, other than the woman identified in this letter. Nor do I know who Miguel de Sierra is, I haven’t seen that name in early Pinos. Was he married to a Juana Martel? That would be cool if he was.
I like how Carrion even points out that Domingo Diaz was padrino for one of his own children, and how you can check the baptism book, to see! It’s right there, 6 Oct 1620! The child’s name was even Domingo! The audacity!
My new favorite expression: “poner una mascara a los ojos de las gentes”: pulling the wool over people’s eyes!
Manny Diez Hermosillo
Thanks for your in-depth research, it is very interesting and disturbing especially when its your relatives. I went searching for Pedro de Mata and only came up with the following which is a very dark history of the Inquisition.
The following was a sentence, I thought was connected to the archived article, but I did not find this at all though Cardona's name was mentioned in the Italian section.
"...to Don Pero Mata requests him to let Cardona continue in occupation of ..."
https://archive.org/details/theinquisition00leauoft
On page 33, First paragraph, 3 sentence is an interesting read. as p118 (bigamy, Solicitation), p184 - solicitation (1561), p244, p250 from 1625-1640.
"Everyone has a good ancestor, if you can go back far enough" This was a quote I read a very long time ago."
Manny,
yeah Juana Martel married the Portuguese, Miguel de Sierra on October 24, 1613 in Aguascalientes. she was the daughter of Hernando Gallegos/Martel and Maria de Frias. Miguel de Sierra married her claiming to be a widower, but eventually left Juana Martel and returned back to Portugal to be with his original wife that wasn't actually dead.
Hola Danny:
La familia Ramírez se ha caracterizado porque los hombres son polígamos y cambian sus nombres al momento de registrar a los hijos. No es caso aislado, me tocó que algunos tíos todavía lo hacían y decían necesitar varias familias para que les ayudaran a trabajar diferentes negocios. Ese Juan Ramírez "de la Campaña" puede ser el nombre real ya que todos los hijos de los Ramírez de Coy se llaman Juan y la hija mayor Juana.
Otra costumbre de los Ramírez de Coy es casarse entre primos hermanos, todavía me tocó conocer esos casos, era para concentrar las propiedades que en éste caso no eran haciendas ganaderas como en otras familias sino redes de comercio y minas de plata, la última se vendió en el año 2003.
Las personas de ésta historia parecen estar relacionadas "con las minas de Comanja" si esas minas eran de plata puede ser otro punto de coincidencia. Ésta poligamia, éste cambio de nombres no fueron casos aislados sino una forma de vida.
Saludos
Marcelina
Hi Manny,
I found a document regarding a Pedro de Mata. I'm not sure if it's the same as the (Alcaide que fue del Castillo de Triana), great grandfather of Gines de Carrion that's married to Francisca de Temino. The Pedro de Mata I came across mentions him as a marinero, capitan and maestre. Even if he's not the same, he clearly must be related. This Pedro de Mata is listed as dying in 1562 in Cartagena and as the son of Gines de Carrion and Leonor de Mata:
https://core.ac.uk/download/pdf/72018779.pdf
Danny
Hi Danny,
I found Capitan Pedro de Mata’s testamento at PARES/AGIS, dated 1562. As you mentioned, he died while captaining his ship in Cartagena, Columbia, and he was the son of Gines de Carrion and Leonor de Mata, residents of Barrio de Triana in Sevilla. This Gines de Carrion is probably the same who was a ship’s captain who sailed to Indies in the 1520s, and who later owned various ships that made transatlantic trips, in particular, carrying gold from Peru back to Spain. I think it’s possible that Leonor de Mata was the daughter of Alcaide Pedro de Mata, which would explain why her son was named Pedro de Mata. If I’m right, then Gines de Carrion and Leonor de Mata could be the grandparents of Gines de Carrion, who settled in San Luis Potosi and later in Sierra de Pinos; Capitan Pedro de Mata would’ve been his uncle.
If so, then the younger Gines de Carrion would’ve been the black sheep of the family, seeing how they had such a nautical background, yet he chose to live so far away
Manny,
I found a few mentions of Gines de Carrion. There's a mention in 1546 of a Gines de Carrion purchasing a vihuela at an auction who they say is most likely el Mozo who they describe as the nephew of Gines de Carrion el Viejo. Both are described in the few available sources as comitres and capitanes. I found it interesting that Gines de Carrion, el Mozo, was the nephew and not the son. I also found this mention of Gines de Carrion, el Viejo: Ginés de Carrión, cómitre, marido primero de Leonor López, hija de Juan García y de Juana López, que le llevó de dote 45.000 mrs., dada por la abuela, Leonor López, viuda de Alonso López ( A . P . S . , III 1517 [ = 1517 ], al 23 de enero ), y después de Leonor de Mata, que le aportó una dote de 600.000 mrs. ( Triana ). Hizo testamento el 1 de julio de 1531...
All of your work is amazing Manny. I always look forward to seeing your posts. I hope you continue sharing your amazing finds here.
Danny
Danny & Manny
I have found that the Gines Carrion (born in 1561) who married Francisca de Tremiño was the son of another Gines Carrion born in 1520 who married Leonor de Mata (born in 1519).
Leonor was the daughter of Pedro de Mata who lived in Triana besides the Castillo de San Jorge and died in 1562. I don’t know if this is the one who was Alguacil Mayor de la Santa Inquisicion but he is not the great-grandfather of Gines Carrion Mata but just his grandfather and Mata is simply his Mother’s family name.
Saludos
Jorge
Jorge,
Thank you very much. The time lines you give can be reconciled with what I’ve found in San Luis Potosi and Sierra de Pinos. And it’s always possible that Pedro de Mata - maternal grandfather of Gines de Carrion - was the son of Alcaide Pedro de Mata, mentioned by Gines de Carrion in his letter. What are your sources?
Danny,
According to the baptism record, dated 15 Dec 1615 in Pinos, of Diego, hijo de Gines de Carrion y de doña Francisca de Temiño, his padrinos were Rodrigo Heredia and doña Angela de Velasco, “tía del dicho Diego.” On 20 Nov 1616, in Aguascalientes, baptized was Rodrigo, hijo de Juana Medina; his padrinos were “doña Angela de Velasco y su primo, Rodrigo de Heredia.”
From the time line and the locations, doña Angela de Velasco is likely the same who was daughter of Juan Ramirez de la Campaña and doña Francisca Temiño de Velasco, and who was married to Geronimo de Orozco. If so, that she was the “aunt” of Diego Carrion, would imply that she was the sister of
Manny,
My sources are the available data from different Internet sites and then I try to match the most logical information.
I start with my account in MyHeritage with Record Matches and Smart Matches, doing Search for the person then I go to FamilySearch for eventual civil registrations. Then I go to other genealogical sites like WikiTree, Geneanet or simply by Wikipedia. If the names and time lines are the same I assume that is the information is right.
Sometimes I use an old set of books called “Mexico a través de los siglos”.
Of course I consult also the Recent Posts of “Nuestros Ranchos”. Rick brings a lot of information and corrections.
I’m particularly interested in my ancestors from Aguascalientes and Zacatecas.
Good search for 2021.
Jorge
Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,
i'm hoping someone has information on this couple Adolfa Tadea Briceño and
Juan Antonio Garcia from Jerez, Zacatecas; i think they were born about
1740 probly in Jerez
this link will take you to what I have on this family. If you click on a name it will give you whatever information I have on that person. I am not related but someone from this line married into my family in the district of Jerez, Zac. My records are on Rootsweb and my file is called Mexico. I hope this helps. I do not have a marriage or baptism records for Juan Antonio or Adulfa Tadea.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=REG&db=mexico&id=I12…
Thank you Linda. This is the first time I've seen the name Garcia de la Cadena. I just had him as Juan Antonio Garcia. this is a good clue to finding his ancestors. Thnk you
Danny C. Alonso
Hello Danny,
I'm interested in the information on Adulfa Tadeo Briseño and Jose Antonio Garcia, but somehow I'm unable to access Linda's information on Rootsweb. Would you be so kind to share with me what you've found?
Thank you very much!
Hector
Buenos días a todos.
1) Donde dice "pone entredicho" debe decir "pone en entredicho"
2) Donde dice "patronímico de Fermoselle" debe decir "toponímico de Fermoselle".
Ana Petra Zermeño is the daughter of Juan Zermeño and Maria Bernarda
Mary Lou Montagna is also a descendant of Francisco Mena and Anna Maria Ponce.
See her post on :
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/23802
You also descend from Juan Antonio Moreno and Anna Maria Galban. You can see a post on their ancestry on :
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/node/19705?page=1
Rick A. Ricci
Hi Rick A. Ricci,
I want to thank you so much for this information. I can't read Spanish but I have friends that can. So I will make copies of these documents. But what I see is she is my 3rd Great Grandmother. I can't thank you enough. Thank for taking the time to help me. Are you related to the Zermrno or Valderamma family?
Laurie Machen
Hi Laurie,
I believe that I am related to you through Ana Petra Zermeño Estrada’s mother, but I still need to gather more information to tell you the exact degree of relationship. I believe that I have Ana Petra Zermeño’s mother’s baptismal record.
Here is your Mena line:
1.)- Francisco Mena and Ana María Ponce
2.)- Jose Antonio Mena married 10/Apr/1736 Juana Bautista Moreno Galvan
3.)- Juan Calletano de Mena (bap. 14/March/1741) and Maria Josefa Antonia Petra Alcorcha
4.)- Jose Antonio Mena married Maria Eulogia Samora
5.)- José Apolinario Mena bap. 2/Aug/1821 married Hilaria Gómez
6.)- Fermin Mena 1853-1904 married 28/Feb/1876 Maria Dionicia Gómez
7.)- Jose Jesus Mena married 9/Jan1904 Juan Lopez Arrieta
8.)- Jose Sixto Mena 1905-1962 married San Juana “Juanita” Valderrama
9.)- Mary Mena 1940-2003 married Donald Frederick Bickel
10.)- Laurie Bickel
Maria Josefa Antonia Petra Alcorcha is the daughter of Santiago Alcorcha and Ana María Reynoso.
Maria Eulogia Samora is the
I am researching my 8th GG-father Juan Castaneda born 10/12/1686 in Pinos, Zac. He married Juana Carabajal on 4/5/1707 at Pinos. https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/V5F8-WNC
I have found that Thomasa’s records show her as "Tomassa de Carrion", daughter of Antonio de Carrion (1645-?) and Francisca Beatriz Rodriguez (1648-1700).
Antonio de Castañeda León y Vargas (1660-1743) was son of Nicolás de Castañeda León y Ruelas Sotomayor (1620-1689) and Ana Maria de Vargas de Cardona (1636-1722).
Jorge
In my tree I have Pedro de Vargas Castañeda (b. 1660) m. Francisca Lopez Mercado He lived in Teul and while I haven't yet found proof, I'm fairly sure he's connected to Nicolas and Ana because of the compound surname.
Pedro has a brother Joseph de Vargas Castaneda m. Francisca Vela Castro. Their daughter Micaela - who married the brother of Francisca Lopez Mercado - was identified as "Micaela de Vargas Castaneda Machuca" on the baptism record of her daughter.
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-2G6D-C?cc=1874591&wc=3J6H-…
- Andrea
Carolyn Gomez Duran
Bill, Jaime, Daniel,Jorge and everybody researching this family,
As I read the recent posting I am in awe of the work you all perform as expert genealogist! I have so much to learn but am so grateful to have found Nuestros Ranchos!
Thank you all for this gift!
Carolyn
Carolyn,
The marriage information ("Informacion Matrimonial") for Juan de Castañeda and Juana de Carbajal was registered in Aguascalientes on 12 March 1707, and the license to marry was granted two weeks later on March 28th also in Aguascalientes. The link to see this document is
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11044-17161-7?cc=1502404&w…
Juan de Castañeda and Juana de Carbajal were married on 5 April 1707 at the church of San Matias in Sierra de Pinos, Zac. (within the jurisdiction of Aguascalientes). Notice that the parents of Juan de Castañeda are identified as Antonio de Castañeda and Thomasa de Carrion, and those of Juana de Carbajal as Juan de Carbajal (difunto) and Catharina de Sanabia. This last surname seems to be misspelled and could be either Sanabria or Sarabia. Notice that Juan de Castañeda is said to be "Natural y Vecino del Puesto nombrado La Noria" (in Sierra de Pinos) and Juana de Carbajal "Natural y Vecina de Guadalajara".
Bill and Carolyn,
On familysearch, one of the submited genealogies, someone referred Antonio de Castañeda as Antonio de Castañeda y Vargas, this might be a possible reference in a baptismal record for one of their children. We should research this, if this be the case I have already found a possible link as to parents for Antonio: Nicolás de Castañeda who married Antonia de Vargas Machuca who also had Apolonia de Castañeda. This last daughter married Capt. Sebastián Flores de Robles ca. 1693.
It will be interesting to further research the Castañeda and Carrión families, there are many missing links in the genealogy.
I hope this helps somehow.
Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino
Good job, Don Daniel,
Hasta pronto,
Pablo Juan Gómez de Lizarraga Martínez-Peña
Paul J Gomez
Sent from my iPhone
On Mar 28, 2013, at 6:12 AM, Daniel Mendez de Torres Camino wrote:
> Bill and Carolyn,
> On familysearch, one of the submited genealogies, someone referred Antonio de Castañeda as Antonio de Castañeda y Vargas, this might be a possible reference in a baptismal record for one of their children. We should research this, if this be the case I have already found a possible link as to parents for Antonio: Nicolás de Castañeda who married Antonia de Vargas Machuca who also had Apolonia de Castañeda. This last daughter married Capt. Sebastián Flores de Robles ca. 1693.
> It will be interesting to further research the Castañeda and Carrión families, there are many missing links in the genealogy.
> I hope this helps somehow.
> Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino
Carolyn Gomez Duran
Bill and Daniel,
Yesterday I looked up Antonio Castaneda and Thomasa Carrion's eight children's baptisms. I found no records of grandparent's names or the name Vargas as a godparent.
Sadd to report this!
Carolyn
Carolyn and Daniel,
This past week I did extensive research on the Castañeda family trying to find the parents of Antonio de Castañeda, but was unable to pinpoint them. One of the first records I checked was the marriage of Miguel de Castañeda to María López, which is also one of the oldest records of a Castañeda living in Sierra de Pinos (within the jurisdiction of Aguascalientes at that time). Their marriage record reads as follows:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-52070-13?cc=1502404&…
Al margen: "Miguel de Castañeda y María López, españoles"
"En primero de febrero de dicho año (1653), se casó y veló según el orden
de la Santa Madre Iglesia habiendo antecedido todas las diligencias que manda
el concilio, Maria López, viuda de Joan Valadés, vecino que fue de esta
jurisdición, con Miguel de Castañeda, hijo legítimo de P.... de Castañe-
da, y de Jasinta de Sotomayor, vecinos de la jurisdición de Sierra de Pinos,
fue su padrino el Capitán
Carolyn and Daniel,
When checking the marriage record of Andrés Martínez de Sotomayor with Ana de Castañeda, I discovered an interesting fact that seems to confirm my suspicions that Antonio de Castañeda was the son of Nicolás de Castañeda and Anna de Vargas Machuca, and therefore brother of Apolonia de Castañeda. The link is as follows:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15246-27952-17?cc=1804458&wc…
Notice that Ana de Castañeda, daughter of Antonio de Castañeda and Thomasa de Carrión, is identified as Ana de Castañeda y Vargas. That pretty much tells me that she was named after her maternal grandmother Anna de Vargas Machuca, and that she sometimes used the surname Vargas. Here is a complete transcription of this record:
Al margen: "Noria / Andres Martinez con Ana de Castañeda"
"En el Real y Minas de San Mathias Sierra
de Pinos en diez de febrero de mill setecientos y veinte y dos
años haviendo precedido las tres amonestaciones que
dispone el
Carolyn Gomez Duran
The children I have identified for Antonio Castaneda and Thomasa Carrion are the following:
Gregorio Joseph Castaneda born July 5, 1684 Baptism source number 1095293, image 27 Padrinoas Antonio de Carrion and Dona Maria de Ascension Oropessa, his wife.
Juan Castaneda born Oct. 12, 1686 Baptism source number 1095293, image 49 Padrino Estaban Munos in the presence of Miguel Castaneda and Antonia de Castaneda.
Maria Nicolasa Castaneda born Oct., 01, 1688 Baptism source number 1095293, image 64
Padrinos Alonzo de Guzman and Polonia de Castaneda! :-)
Francisca Castaneda born July 31, 1693 Baptism source number 1095293, image 103 Padrinos Antonio de Aguilar and Mariana Dias de la Puente, his wife. They lived at Rancho de Castaneda Sabala.
Ana Castaneda de Vargas born Dec., 10, 1695 Baptism source number 1095293, image 130
Padrino Antonio de Carrion.
Geronima Castaneda born Nov., 05, 1698 Baptism source number 1095293, image 172 Padrino Juan Munos
Polonia
Thank you, Carolyn. I'm pretty sure we're on the right track. Another piece of the puzzle is in the baptismal record of María Nicolasa de Castañeda, which identifies her padrinos as Alonzo Guzmán and Polonia de Castañeda. I believe this is the same María who married Martín Ruiz de Esparza in 1704, right? Here is the link to that marriage:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15246-29445-25?cc=1804458&wc…
Rgds,
Bill
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Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Antonio Castaneda Children
Carolyn Gomez Duran
The children I have identified for Antonio Castaneda and Thomasa Carrion are the following:
Gregorio Joseph Castaneda born July 5, 1684 Baptism source number 1095293, image 27 Padrinoas Antonio de Carrion and Dona Maria de Ascension Oropessa, his wife.
Juan Castaneda born Oct. 12, 1686 Baptism source number
Carolyn Gomez Duran
Bill,
I too have Maria Nicolasa Castaneda marrried to Martin Ruis de Esparzan May 5, 1704. Marriage source 1096163/32 Padrinos Capitan Esteban Munos and Thomas Nieto
Widow of Dona Gerturdis Calbillo
Nicolasa was from the pueblo of San Joseph and Martin was from Aguascalientes del pueblo de Santiago de Xalya..
Carolyn
Dear Bill, Carolyn and others
Another document belonging to a child of Pedro de Castañeda and Jacinta Sotomayor is the marriage document of Gabriel de Castañeda and Maria Rebollo (San Matias, Pinos, Zacatecas, 29 enero 1653, Image 110). Maria Rebollo was the widow of Juan Valades and legitimate daughter of Domingo Rebollo and Maria Lopez from Aguascalientes.
Saludos
Jaime
Hello, Jaime. Thank you for the wedding info. of Gabriel de Castañeda with María Rebollo. I was unable to find the source record at San Matias, Pinos, Zac. Could you please send me the link? María's parents Domingo Rebollo and Mari López wed 9 Oct 1625 in Aguascalientes. The link is as follows:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11824-51024-27?cc=1502404&…
Saludos,
Bill
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From: Jaime R. Alvarado
To: research@nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2013 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Maria Nicolasa Castaneda
Dear Bill, Carolyn and others
Another document belonging to a child of Pedro de Castañeda and Jacinta Sotomayor is the marriage document of Gabriel de Castañeda and Maria Rebollo (San Matias, Pinos, Zacatecas, 29 enero 1653, Image 110). Maria Rebollo was the widow of Juan Valades and legitimate daughter of Domingo Rebollo and Maria Lopez from Aguascalientes.
Saludos
Jaime
Bill,
Here is the link to Garbriel's Castaneda document: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15245-22889-22?cc=1804458&wc…
Also, thanks for the information about the parents of the bride.
Jaime
Jaime,
You're not going to believe this! The link to Gabriel de Castañeda's Información Matrimonial that you sent me last Friday solves another mystery that had me wondering for several days. It turns out that Gabriel's marriage record in Aguascalientes is none other than the one erroneously attributed to Miguel de Castañeda. There is no Miguel de Castañeda. Gabriel and Miguel sound similar, so the good padre (or his scribe) wrote the wrong name in the record book. Here is an excerpt of the marriage information provided by Gabriel de Castañeda in Sierra de Pinos:
"En 29 dias de henero de 1653 años"
"Grabiel de Castañeda, vesino y natural del Real y Minas de Sierra de Pinos,
hijo legitimo de Pedro de Castañeda, ya difunto, y de Jasinta de Sotomayor,
paresco ante Vuestra Merced en la mejor bia y forma que aya lugar y digo que
yo tengo tratado contraer matrimonio por letras de presente en
la Villa de Aguas Calientes con Maria Rebollo, biuda mujer que
Bill, Jaime, Carolyn, Daniel, and everybody researching this family,
I have been reading all these posting and I am excited to be able to add some information.
If I understood correctly, Antonio de Castañeda y Vargas is in fact the son of Nicolás de Castañeda y Ana de Vargas Muriano, correct? Based on my research, I had not been able to find his parents, but I had been able to find the following information on his siblings:
1.Antonio de Castaneda Y Vargas m. Thomasa Carrion
-Gregorio Joseph Castaneda Carrion
-Juan Castaneda Carrion m. Juana Carbajal Sanabia (Sarabia) b. Jul 1690 In Gdl. Jal. (I have found 11 children from this marriage)
-Maria Nicolassa Castaneda Carrion m. Martin Ruiz de Esparza Sotelo (I have found 9 children from this marriage)
-Nicolas Castaneda Carrion m. Maria Gomez Ruiz de Villasenor
-Francisca Castaneda Carrion m. Joseph Diaz Perea (I have found 6 children)
-Ana Castaneda Carrion m. Andres Martinez de Sotomayor Guerra
-Geronima Castaneda Carrion
-Polonia
Bill,
I thought it was a estrange coincidence that two brothers married, within a short time frame, two ladies named Maria (Lopez and Rebollo Lopez) who were widows of two husbands named Juan Valades. Yet, I did not pursue it any further. Once again you share with the group a fantastic piece of genealogical research that demonstrates there was no Miguel but only Gabriel Castañeda.
Regarding the surname Moriano, although rare, it can be found in Spain, and in some latin american countries, particularly in Argentina. There is a town in northern Italy that goes by that name, and the presence among Argentineans could be associated to a toponym used among Italian inmigrants. However, in our case, there is another toponym that yields a more plausible origin. If we focus on the alternative spelling recorded in Apolonia's testament (Vargas Muriano) we find Cerro Muriano, a small town just north of the City of Cordoba, and the site of ancient Roman copper mines known by that name.
Thanks
Carolyn Gomez Duran
Dear Jorge,
These are my ancestors:
Antonio Castaneda and Thomasa Carrion would be my 9th GG-parents.
Juan Castaneda and Juana Carabajal my 8th GG-parents.
Maria Gertrudis Castaneda and Joseph Matias Sesario Sosa my 7th GG-parents.
Maria Josefa Anastacia Sosa and Jose German Gaitan my 6th GG-parents.
Jose Manuel Gaitan and Maria de los Dolores Gaitan my 5th GG-parents.
Prudencia Gaitan and Manuel Garza my 4th GG-parents.
Rosalia Martinez Gaitan and Roman Hinostroza Esparza my 3rd GG-parents.
Maria Bernarda Esparza and Bonifacio Jimenez my 2nd GG-Parents.
Antonio Jimenez and Maria Loginos Moreno my 1st GG-parents.
Maria Isabel Jimenez and Roman Cardenas my Grandparents.
Are we primos??
Carolyn
Bill, Jaime, Carolyn et. al.
I believe I have found another piece of the puzzle with the Castañeda family. The following: In a dispensa that can be found for the years 1710-1712, image 489 we find the following information:
Sierra de Pìnos - Nicolás de Castañeda y María Gómez Ruíz
It mentions that Nicolás is a native of Sierra de Pinos as well as María Gómez. They share a 4th and 3rd degree of consanguinity. He is the son of Antonio de Castañeda and Tomasa de Carrión; she is the daughter of Matías Gómez and Isabel Ruíz; The genealogy is not fully mentioned, the only information the witnesses give is that both are "bisnietos de dos hermanos carnales"
According to the dispensation, Antonio de Castañeda is the grandson of Pedro de Castañeda and María Gómez is the great grandaughter of Jacinta de Sotomayor. It also mentions that Jacinta was a sister to Blas Nieto. My question is the following: is Blas Nieto somehow related to the Nieto Corona family? This would put all these individuals
Does anyone know who were the parents of Apolonia de Castañeda married to D. Alonso de Guzmán y Prado?
Daniel Méndez de Torres Camino
Saludos desde São Paulo, SP, Brasil
Hi Daniel,
The parents of Apolonia de Castañeda are Nicolás de Castañeda and Ana de Vargas Moriano.
Christopher de Cuéllar
Carolyn, Daniel, David et al,
Just a quick note to correct the name of the "padrino" in the wedding of Miguel de Castañeda and María López. The transcription should read "fue su padrino el Capitán Pedro de Quixas y Escalante" instead of Juan de Quenca y Escalante. My mistake in reading the original document. Capt. Pedro de Quixas belonged to a prominent family of landowners in Pinos at that time. I apologize for the mistake, which was caught by the quick eyes of David Delgado of Albany, California. The transcription should read
Al margen: "Miguel de Castañeda y María López, españoles"
"En primero de febrero de dicho año (1653), se casó y veló según el orden
de la Santa Madre Iglesia habiendo antecedido todas las diligencias que manda
el concilio, Maria López, viuda de Joan Valadés, vecino que fue de esta
jurisdición, con Miguel de Castañeda, hijo legítimo de P.... de Castañe-
da, y de Jasinta de Sotomayor, vecinos de la jurisdición de Sierra de
Bill Figueroa,
Recently you provided the names of six children of Pedro Castañeda and Jacinta de Sotomayor, and also mentioned your belief that Nicolas Castañeda, the spouse of Ana Vargas, could be brother of Pedro. However, Nicolas was another child of Pedro and Jacinta, as it was stated in the marriage information when he pretended to marry Ana Vargas in Pinos, Zacatecas, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15245-26512-76?cc=1804458&wc….
Ana was born in San Luis Potosi and lived in el Real de la Pendencia and was the daughter of Diego Vargas Moriano and Leonor de Cardona. Notice that her father's surname conflicts with at least one later document where the compound surname associated with Ana appears as 'Vargas Machuca'.
Sincerely
Jaime
Hello Jaime,
Wow!! You discovered a very important piece of the puzzle and the one were all missing. With this, all the other pieces seem to fall into place. This document confirms that Nicolás de Castañeda was indeed the son of Pedro de Castañeda and Jacinta de Sotomayor and not Pedro's brother, as I had originally thought.
As you mentioned, Ana de Vargas was the daughter of Diego de Vargas Moriano and Leonor de Cardona. The confusion with the surname "Vargas Machuca" stems from the burial record of Apolonia de Castañeda in 1739. Here is the link:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-266-12142-72431-92?cc=1502404&…
This record conflicts with others with more credibility, such the Información Matrimonial you found and the final will and testament of Apolonia de Castañeda, filed 7 Feb 1715 in Aguascalientes. This important document in the Protocolos Notariales of Baltazar Díaz de Aguilera, Alcalde Ordinario de Aguascalientes, begins as follows:
Hola-
Ana's sister Maria de Vargas married Juan Delgado (son of Diego Delgado and Juana Diaz). Juan was a widower, having previously been married to Juana de Rivera. It appears that Maria de Vargas and Juana de Rivera were related, since the marriage required a dispensation for 'segundo con tercero grado de afinidad'. The dispensation can be found in the Pinos IM 1640-1699 records: https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15245-25771-7?cc=1804458&wc=…
In the dispensation, Maria's parents are listed as Pedro de Vargas Moriano and Leonor de Cardona
…información dada por Juan Delgado, viudo de Juana de Rivera, hijo legitimo de Diego Delgado y de Juana Díaz, y María de Vargas, soltera hija legitima de Pedro de Vargas Moriano y de Leonor de Cardona españoles vecinos del partido de Sierra de Pinos para el matrimonio que pretenden contraer y el impedimento que resulta de parentesco de segundo con tercer grado de afinidad…
Austin Perez
La descendencia de Malinalli “Marina” (La Malinche) hasta Iyari Amaranta Casillas Mariscal
1.) Cacique (chieftain) de Paynala m. Marta (baptized name)
También encontré una descendencia de mi familia de Zacatecas a partir de la Malinche pero tengo un punto de unión conflictivo.
1.) Cacique (chieftain) de Paynala m. Marta (baptized name)
2.) Malinalli (baptized Marina) Tenépatl (aka “La Malinche” m. Juan Jaramillo
3.) María Jaramillo m. Luis Lopez de Quesada (aka Quesada, aka Luis Quesada López de Mendoza, aka Luis Lopez de Mendosa)
4.) Pedro de Quesada m. María Melchora de Puga
5.) Alonso de Quesada m. Juana Bautista Hernández Arellano Hurtado de Mendoza
6.) María Díaz de Quezada y Hernández m. Gabriel de Avalos de Orozco
7.) Isabel de Avalos Orozco y Díaz de Quezada m. Diego de Carrion Tremiño
8.) Antonio de Carrion m. Francisca Beatriz Rodríguez
9.) Tomassa de Carrion m. Antonio de Castañeda León y Vargas
10.) María Nicolasa de Castañeda Carrion m. Martin Ruiz de Esparza y Sotelo Jaén
11.) Margarita de Esparza de Castañeda m. Francisco de Herrera Diaz
12.) María Feliciana Herrera Esparza m. Feliciano Placido de Villela
13.) María
También encontré una descendencia de mi familia de Zacatecas a partir de la Malinche pero tengo un punto de unión conflictivo.
1.) Cacique (chieftain) de Paynala m. Marta (baptized name)
2.) Malinalli (baptized Marina) Tenépatl (aka “La Malinche” m. Juan Jaramillo
3.) María Jaramillo m. Luis Lopez de Quesada (aka Quesada, aka Luis Quesada López de Mendoza, aka Luis Lopez de Mendosa)
4.) Pedro de Quesada m. María Melchora de Puga
5.) Alonso de Quesada m. Juana Bautista Hernández Arellano Hurtado de Mendoza
6.) María Díaz de Quezada y Hernández m. Gabriel de Avalos de Orozco
7.) Isabel de Avalos Orozco y Díaz de Quezada m. Diego de Carrion Tremiño
8.) Antonio de Carrion m. Francisca Beatriz Rodríguez
9.) Tomassa de Carrion m. Antonio de Castañeda León y Vargas
10.) María Nicolasa de Castañeda Carrion m. Martin Ruiz de Esparza y Sotelo Jaén
11.) Margarita de Esparza de Castañeda m. Francisco de Herrera Diaz
12.) María Feliciana Herrera Esparza m. Feliciano Placido de Villela
13.) María
Les adjunto un resumen / recopilación que hice de los Rollos 2 al 52 de la biblioteca del Lic.
Hello forum.
Catalina de Sepulveda died 10 Sep. 1644 in Guadalajara, Nueva Galicia.
I just saw a secondary source that states that Ana de Ojeda’s first husband passed away in 1620 so that clears the way for the second marriage in 1621. Ana’s first husband was 45 years old when he passed away in 1620. Somehow genealogists have mixed up the age of 45 with the year of his death and have erroneously listed his death date as 1645. Luis was definitely from her first marriage.
Rick A. Ricci
Hello Ruben,
Ana de Ojeda (b. 1593) was married twice, first to to Capitan Pedro Topete Enriquez.
I think that Ana de Ojeda’s first husband is related to Lorenzo Meza through their “Mesa” lines. Her first husband’s father is Francisco Topete de Mesa.
Ana de Ojeda and her first husband had three daughters and three sons. One of her sons is named Luis who was baptized in September of 1615 in Guadalajara.
Lorenzo Meza Valdivia is her second husband, but I think that her first husband was still alive in 1621.
Ana de Ojeda was married to both men, but the children named as inheritors are from her first marriage. On 6/December/1653 she is identified as the widow of Lorenzo Meza Valdivia and the inheritors that she names are children from her first marriage to Capitan Pedro Topete Enriquez. Luis is one of the inheritors
I hope this helps.
Happy New Year,
Rick A. Ricci
Book Mygenes2000
Hello,
In looking at the death record, it does indeed mention Ana de Ojeda as suegra, but, not of Luis Bentura de Cabrera but instead of Lic. Francisco Rico ( y de la Torre). Francisco married Antonia Enriquez Topete y Ojeda, daughter of Ana de Ojeda and Pedro Enriquez Topete. Ana de Ojeda did indeed marry twice. His first marriage was to Pedro Enriquez Topete and her second marriage with Lorenzo de Meza. Ana de Ojeda was the daughter of Luis de Ahumada and Mariana de Ojeda y Vaca. This is all confirmed in Ana de Ojeda's testament found here:
Testamento de Ana de Ojeda - Guadalajara, Jalisco (23rd of October, 1653)
You can also find all sorts of rich information about Ana de Ojeda and her ancestors through the "Informaciones: Diego de la Mota y Carvajal" a grand-nephew of Ana de Ojeda through Diego's Ojeda ancestors. (Lorenzo de Meza gives testimony about Diego's limpieza and mentions that his wife, Ana de Ojeda, is an aunt of Diego) Link here:
I have two questions concerning the Arzola family:
I read : "The first is concerning the line of Capitan Don Pedro de Arzola, vecino y minero del Real de Panuco. He was married to Dona Cecilia Lopes de Soto. They were the parents of Maria, Josefa, Nicolasa, and Cecilia de Arzola."
I found documentation to proof the link with Nicolasa, and Josefa but I haven't able to locate any documentation (or any type of source) to proof that Cecilia de Arzola is the daughter of Pedro de Arzola and Cecilia Lopez de Soto.
Does anyone has anything to proof the link??
Any info would be greatly appreciated.
Happy 2021!
sus leniski
This is not my line but I do have some family group sheets which may help with the San Luis Potosi Arzola family. I was researching the Perez de Alanis line and had found a reference that said Juan Perez de Alanis was related to Perez de Arzola. I’ve seen the name written Arzola, Alzola, Alcola and other variations, but will use Arzola from now on.
Take a look at the following FGS in my Dropbox:
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/yop1j3tqornd0xh/AABnVNtOvuDJtcuW0Gk5vgBHa?dl…
Andres Perez cc Magdalena de Arzola
Diego Perez de Arzola cc Maria de Santa Cruz
Alonso Bernal cc Isabel de Salas
Luis de Salas y Valdez cc Ana de Rojas
Juan Perez de Alanis cc Isabel de Salas
Gabriel Ortiz de Fuenmayor cc Ysabel Perez de Alanis
Note that Alonso de Cardenas and his wife Maria de Arzola were godparents to Alonso de Salas (Rojas) on 16 Apr 1614 in Pinos. Not sure where she fits in.
Mary Lou
Hola otra vez:
De la búsqueda en Familysearch no se puede obtener evidencias de que ambas familias estén relacionadas entre sí, pero es muy probable. Actualmente está deshabilitada la Guía General del Archivo General de la Nación que podría ayudar.
Primero te contaré lo que yo sé: A mediados del siglo XVI pasó a Perú Don Francisco de Irarrazábal, gentilhombre de su majestad el Rey de Inglaterra, lo acompañaba un séquito de familias de orígen vasco , entre ellos la familia Gárate cuya descendencia quedó en Perú, pero una parte pasó a Zacatecas. Algunos de los miembros de éste grupo, proceden de Elgoibar.
Por otro lado el prior de los frailes dominicos en Nueva Galicia era Fray Domingo de Alzola, que llegó a ser obispo. Con su nombre en el buscador aparecen varios libros y artículos.
En PARES encontré los siguientes registros, todos a Nueva España:
1582 INDIFERENTE 740,N.65 Fray Domingo de Alzola para la Iglesia de Jalisco.
1590 INDIFERENTE,2065,N.57 Licencia a Alonso de Santoyo y
Hola:
Te aviso que en la lista de matrimonios de la Sierra de Pinos hay varios Alcola con apóstrofe, lo que significa que se pronunciaba Alzola.
Es un post reciente subido por J. Refugio Hermosillo. Ojalá y encuentres a tu familia.
Marcelina
Hello David,
Marcelina is correct, some of the children of Joan de Alçola (how he signed his name) and Ynes de Salas do appear as testigos & padrinos in the early San Matias Pinos archives. When did your Pedro Arzola cc Cecilia Lopes de Soto live?
I have found various documents regarding Joan de Alçola in the SLP misc archives: here's his testamento, dated 1596. He names their legitimate children, as well as 2 hijos naturales that he fathered with Engracia de la Olacaval, in Los Ramos de Zacatecas, named Mariana Arzola (b. 1571) and Andres Arzola (b 1574).
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33S7-958X-SWLK?i=137&cc=204…
He names Doctor Juan de Bernal clerigo as his brother, and Pedro de Arzola as his cousin.
Though this Pedro de Arzola does appear in SLP and in old Sierra de Pinos, I don't know if he is the same from Panuco. Here he is, registering a mine 27 Jan 1597:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-G58X-SZHB?cc=2040013
And here he is, baptizing an hijo
¿Puedes decirme la época en que el capitán estuvo en Zacatecas, yo tengo una abuela María Juana de Arzola en las minas de Zacatecas hacia 1650 pero ¡venía de Perú!
Hola a todos! Hace como un año que no comparto ni escribo. Aqui estoy de nuevo trabajando en mi arbol genealogico...
I have a copy of the dispensa for Pedro Enríquez and Isabel Calderón, dated 3 Jul 1667 in San Felipe, Gto. It states Pedro was from San Luis Potosí and the bride from Nochistlán in Nueva Galicia.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-5JSN-BL?i=545&cc=18833…
However, it does not mention his parents. Some genealogists have him as Enríquez de Rivera (an influential family in San Luis Potosí) and others have him as Enríquez del Castillo.
Daniel, I think you have confused the individual’s that Sandra Patricia is speaking of: her Pedro Enriquez del Castillo was baptized 24 May 1646, son of Hernando Enriquez del Castillo cc Isabel Calderon Delgadillo, while the Pedro Enriquez and Isabel Calderon you speak of didn’t marry until 3 July 1667. These are 2 different families, living in 2 different places and at different times. An easy mistake to make, considering the similarities of the names & surnames - it took me a while to figure it out, too!
Sandra Patricia, I have Hernando Enriquez del Castillo marrying Mariana Diaz de Pangua on 22 Jun 1621 in Guadalajara; while they baptized a son named Hernando on 6 Oct 1631, he would’ve been too young to have been the father of your Pedro. Mariana Diaz did her testamento on 10 Feb 1641, so it’s possible that she died and Isabel Calderon Delgadillo was Hernando’s second wife. Here’s Mariana’s testamento, perhaps you can find a clue:
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:3Q9M
Hello,
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Maria Aceves’s descent from Hrolf “Rollo” the Viking:
1)- Rollo “Hrolfr” “Rolf” “Rollon” “Rollo the Viking” “Rollo the Walker” “Rollo Normandy” nació in 860 ad y murio entre 928 ad y 933 ad. Rollo es uno de los más importantes Vikingos en historia. Rolls es antepasado de muchas casas reales en Europa. Rollo y Poppa procreáron a Guillaume “William Longsword.”
2)- Guillaume, “William Longsword”, (Guillaume Longue-Épée en frances) Lord of the Normans. Guillaume nacio en 893, fue asasinado 17/December/942. El controlo Normandía desde 927 hasta su muerte. Guilluame y Sprota procreán a Richard I “the Fearless”.
3)- Richard I “the Fearless”, Duke of Normandy , Richard I y su padre crecieron los terrenos de Normandy. Richard I y Gunnora procrearon Richard II “The Good”
4)- Richard II “The Good”, Duke of Normandy, nacio 23/August/963 y murió 28 August 1026. Richard II procreáro a Robert I.
5)-
Maria Aceves (b. Ca 1906) is the daughter of :
J. Ignacio Aceves Nuño (bap. 12 Sep 1878, born on 9/Sep/1878) Marriage Registration 7/August/1897 and Maria Brigida Estrada (b. 8/Oct/1882, bap. 12 Oct 1882)
Baptism of Maria Brigida Estrada born 8/Oct/1882
Parents Jose Refugio Estrada and María Jesús González
Paternal grandparents Jose Hilario Estrada (bap. 22 Jan 1791, La Barca)m. 15/Feb/1830 Ma. Guadalupe Aguirre
Great grandparents Jose Secundino Estrada (bap. 9 Jul 1769 La Barca )and Maria Paula Luz Zaragosa
Great grandparents Luis Aguirre and Maria Francisca Aceves
Great great grandparents Jose Secundino Estrada is the son of Antonio Joaquin Estrada and Maria Josefa Padilla m. 20/Apr/1754 La Barca, Jalisco
Antonio Joaquin Estrada is the son of Juan Estrada and Agustina Navarro
Maria Josefa Padilla Is the daughter of José (Juan De San Pedro) Padilla y María Gertrudis Navarro
Maternal grandparents Manuel Gonzalez and Gertrudis Navarro
Great Grandparents Manuel Gonzalez
Dear Jeanette,
You descend from Eleuterio Delgadillo and Maria Nepomucena Delgadillo
Eleuterio Delgadillo was married twice. Maria Nepomucena Delgadillo was his second wife. They were required to get a marriage dispensation because they were closely related through Delgadillo, Lopez, and Valdivia ancestral lines. There was another relationship listed in the dispensation because the two wives were related. Eleuterio married his second wife one year after his first wife passed away.
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Delgadillo relationship
(1.)- Juan Delgadillo m. Elvira Martinez de Alarcon (trunk)
2a.)- Cristobal Delgadillo m. Antonia Ximenez
3a)- Lorenzo Delgadillo m. Maria Isabel de Los Dolores Carrillo
4a.)- Lorenzo Delgadillo m. Juliana López
5a.)- Maria Nepomucena Delgadillo
(1.)- Juan Delgadillo m. Elvira Martinez de Alarcon (trunk)
2b.)- Jose Delgadillo m. Juana Ximenez
3b.)- Feliciana Delgadillo
4b.)- Esteban Delgadillo m. Guadalupe Valdivia
5b.)- Eleuterio Delgadillo
Welcome to nuestrosranchos Jeanette,
You are a distant cousin of mine through your Rodriguez ancestry. I have more information on your ancestry but I don’t have time right now to post it so I will get back to you soon.
Irineo (Yrineo) Delgadillo born ca. 1866 Is the son of Francisco Delgadillo and Paula Sánchez.
Feliciana (Felicitas) Jauregui born ca. 1869 is the daughter of Pioquinto Jauregui and Maria Presentación Rodrigues.
Yrineo and Feliciana were married on 16/Feb/1884
https://sg30p0.familysearch.org/service/records/storage/dascloud/das/v2…
Paula was Francisco’s first wife.
Paula and Francisco were married on 4/Oct/1863, Jalostotitlan, Jalisco
Francisco (b1835, d. 21/Jun/1916) is the son of Eleuterio Delgadillo and Maria Delgadillo. https://sg30p0.familysearch.org/service/records/storage/dascloud/das/v2…
Bienvenido, prima!
I see some familiar surnames in your lines: Delgadillo (they appear in my lines twice), Macias (who also appear in my lines twice), Aceves, Jauregui - I’m sure we can all assist you in your journey!
Saludos,
Manny Díez Hermosillo
1) Eleuterio Delgadillo and Maria Delgadillo
2)Francisco Delgadillo (b1835, d. 21/Jun/1916) m. 4/Oct/1863 Paula Sánchez
3)Yrineo Delgadillo m. 16/Feb/1884 Feliciana Jauregui
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1)Miguel de Los Santos Sánchez y Lopez de Elizalde (bap. 8 Nov 1724 ) and Catarina Rodriguez de Hijar
2)Rafael Antonio Sánchez Rodríguez (baptized on 2/July/1769 ) m.18/April/1792 Maria Jacinta Alvarado Giménez (Jiménez)
3)Fernando Sánchez m. Eusebia Alvarado
4)Paula Sánchez m. 4/Oct/1863 Francisco Delgadillo(b1835, d. 21/Jun/1916)
5)Yrineo Delgadillo m. 16/Feb/1884 Feliciana Jauregui
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1.)-Juan Sánchez m. Maria Beatriz
2.)-Joseph Juaquin Sánchez m. 12/Apr/1780 Juana Maria Josefa Orosco
3.)-José María Sánchez m. María de San Jose Hernández
4.)-Pablo (José Paulo) Sánchez m. Rosalia Hernandez
5.)- Eleno Sánchez m. Maria Natividad
Hello,
Hi Sylvia, Ive been trying to find what I can about Nicolas Corvera and his parents Jose Trinidad Corvera and Petra Marquez. I saw in the Matrimonio of Nicolas Corvera that he was from Zaucillo de Leanos. Im more or less guessing that this is the same Saucillo located in the hills north east of Villanueva and east of La Quemada.
Looking at it from Google Earth it appears that there are walls or fences from previous habitation.
Hi Sylvia,
Villa Gutierre del Águila and Villanueva are synonymous--Villanueva is the new name changed in the last century. The place of origin for Nicolás Corvera reads "Zaucillo de los Lianos" or in modern Spanish it should be "Saucillo de los Llanos."
Daniel Méndez de Torres y Camino
Happy early New Year! primos from Jalisco Posting this in case members have clues on some deadends in my Jalisco genealogy. This is my dad's side of the house.
If anyone would like a real challenge in interpreting an old document, I should be grateful for any assistance in reading the last entry on the left-hand page of image 200 on roll 38311 (it's page 189
I have a copy of the dispensa for Pedro Enríquez and Isabel Calderón, dated 3 Jul 1667 in San Felipe, Gto. It states Pedro was from San Luis Potosí and the bride from Nochistlán in Nueva Galicia.
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-5JSN-BL?i=545&cc=18833…
However, it does not mention his parents. Some genealogists have him as Enríquez de Rivera (an influential family in San Luis Potosí) and others have him as Enríquez del Castillo.
Best Regards,
Daniel Méndez de Torres y Camino
Lawrence,
The film no. is 38309 and not 38311. Hernando Enriquez del Castillo was a notary in Guadalajara. This death certificate says that "Francisco Ahumada's" will was drawn by this Hernado Enriquez.
I have not been able to connect Vicente Enriquez's ancestors to the Guadalajara Enriquez del Castillo
Sergio Gutierrez
Sergio,
Thank you; now I see it: "... testamente Hernando Enriques escribano publico y lo firme ..."; and you're right, of course: it's roll 38309—my error.
As for the ancestors of Vicente Enriques, here is what I have:
* the baptism of Joseph Bisente (279254 image 169) says "... hijo lexmo de Franco Enriques y de Anna Albares ...";
* the birth of Francisco Enriques (25 Nov 1677) is supposed to be on roll 226646 (FamilySearch), but images of the Zacatecas registros are not online;
* so if Francisco's father is, indeed, Pedro Enriquez Cuellar, then Pedro's baptism on 24 May 1646 is found on roll 38311, image 14; and
* Pedro's baptismal record gives his parent's names as Hernando Enriquez del Castillo and María de Cuellar.
So it would seem that the missing link is proof that Francisco is the son of Pedro Enriquez Cuellar and Isabel Calderon Delgadillo; of course, the marriage between Pedro and Isabel is also supposed to be on one of the Zacatecas registros, roll 226724.
If I have
Dear Lawrence & Sergio,
I'm so happy to see others researching Hernando Enriquez del Castillo!
Not sure if you already had the following information. Hernando Enriquez
del Castillo is mentioned in:
Retonos de Espana en la Nueva Galicia, by Mariano Gonzalez-Leal in Tomo III,
p. 282-289
"Juan Enriquez Sanz y dona Andrea del Castillo fueron padres de Hernando
Enriquez del Castillo...Este caballero caso en Guadalajara el 22 de Junio
1621 con dona Mariana Diaz de Pangua... Fallecida en Guadalajara, viuda el 1
de Julio 1639..."
Genealogia de Nochistlan Antiguo Reino de la Nueva Galicia en el Siglo XVII
Segun sus Archivos Parroquiles by Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias,
p. 40
"Isabel Calderon. El 3 de Julio de 1667 en Nochistlan casaron Pedro Enriquez
vez de la villa de San Phelipe del obspado de Michoacan, e Isabel Calderon
hija de Diego Delgadillo y Petrona de Yslas... El 6 de Junio de 1667 en San
Felipe Guanajuato presento informacion Pedro Enriquez, natural de San Luis
Potosi
Hello,
Trying the pick up the research for my direct ancestor Pedro Enriquez del Castillo. Did we prove that he was son of Hernando and Maria de Cuellar? I am confused with her and Mariana Diaz de Paniagua.
Also, on the previous thread, I see that Guanajuato and San Luis Potosi are mentioned in Pedro's marriage certificate. I have the certificate but could not make this out.
Thanks!
Lawrence and Rosa,
The big question is if the Pedro Enriquez, who married Isabel Calderon in Nochistlan on 3 July 1667, is the son of Hernando Enriquez del Castillo and Maria de Cuellar who was born in Guadalajara on 26 May 1646. Unfortunately, the marriage act of 1667, does not mentioned who Pedro's parents were.
Link to Pedro Enriquez and Isabel Marriage Act (lower right corner):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15188-593-63?cc=1410092&wc=6…
We do know that Francisco Enriquez's marriage certificate (Nochistlan, 26 Feb 1702) with Ana Alvarez-Tostado, mentions his parents as being Pedro and Isabel.
Link to Francisco and Ana's Marriage Act (upper left area):
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15187-51421-6?cc=1410092&wc=…
Below is the link to all of Nochistlan, Zacatecas digitized church records, unfortunately familysearch folks need to reorganize to include Zacatecas, as well as other states, with the section where Jalisco resides in.
Sergio,
Thank you so much for the Zacatecas links; I was so hung up in FamilySearch's other linkages that I missed the Zacatecas records altogether. You're right; FamilySearch should reorganize their lists.
These records will document some very important connections in my database; thanks again.
Lawrence Bouett
Apenas destrabé la ascendencia de mi antepasada Lucía Fernández de Palos, casada en Nadadores, Coahuila, el 14/Mayo/1799 con Pedro Falcón Masías.
Another Longoria Family