"Ranchos Support Fund"

color=#0000ff size=2>Gotcha.  I can kick in some money.  Just let us
us know when & where to send.

color=#0000ff size=2>Thanks, Irma





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To:
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Irma GomezLucero wrote:


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photos

there are many places on the web where you can do this free. Here is a
site I use: http://www.webshots.com/



sign up for the free not the premium account. You would then either
send the link to your photos to the group or put a link to your photos
in the "links" area of the group. Try it I think you'll like this
service.



here is my site:



http://community.webshots.com/user/joseph27703



joseph



ps: to answer you question directly. Ranchos photo section is full and
we don't use ranchos2 for photos.



lili pinzon wrote:

where may I create a photo album, ranchos  o ranchos 2? Thank you 
Joseph





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&quot;Ranchos Support Fund&quot;

Me too.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California
--- Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@...> wrote:

> I hope everyone had or is still having a good
> holiday and I too contribute $25.00 to the support
> fund. Just let me know where and when to send it.
>  
> Con mis mejores deseos para todos........Alicia
> Carrillo de San Jose, Ca
> 
> Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes <ojaurequireyes@...>
> wrote:
> Joseph,
> If all are in agreement I think this is a good idea.
>  You can count me for a $25 pledge.
> 
> Olivia
> So. Calif.
> 
> Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:For now we
> are over a hundred members strong. I would like to
> run 
> something past you that is open for discussion.
> Would anyone object to 
> having a completely optional "Ranchos Support Fund"?
> 
> I was thinking if a few of us sent in a few buck we
> might be able to 
> have $100 stipends available to send off to members
> that are in need or 
> for projects that are supportive of the Ranchos
> Group. This effort would 
> need a volunteer "use" committee which would have at
> least 3 members (no 
> ties) and one of those would be a treasurer to hold
> the funds. Before 
> the "use" committee would decide on a "use" they
> would bring up the use 
> for group discussion. but after the discussion the
> decision for the use 
> would be made by the committee.
> 
> If this is something that you all would consider
> going forward on then I 
> would like to nominate Kitty Cortez to be one of the
> committee members 
> and possibly the Treasurer. Also I would like to
> pledge $25 to start the 
> contributions.
> 
> But all that is premature if you all think this is
> not something worthwhile.
> 
> what say ye?
> 
> joseph
> 
> 
> 
> 
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Toribio Romo -- Mexico's Ghostly Benefactor of Illegal Aliens!

It's called faith and we have it.

Alberto Duarte Prieto
Santa Maria, California

--- Emilie Garcia <auntyemfaustus@...> wrote:

> 
>
http://www.viewzone.com/gene01.html<http://www.viewzone.com/gene01.html>
> 
> 
> John,
> 
> I had never heard of the saint you are related to,
> so I started browsing the internet for information
> on him, and I found this interesting article (check
> link above).  What was fascinating to me is the
> picture of Toribio Romo.  He bears a striking
> resemblance to my husband, his father, and his
> great-grandmother Marciana Cervantes who was from
> Encarnacion de Diaz in Jalisco and whose ancestors I
> have traced to Rincon de Romos in Aguascalientes
> which is just south of our areas of interest in
> Zacatecas.  
> 
> How lucky you are to have traced your ancestors back
> to 1550; I've been working so hard for over five
> YEARS and have only found our people back to the
> early 1700's. Was Santo Toribio Romo perhaps guiding
> you?  The article goes into a deep discussion about
> guardian angels, etc. all the way back in history
> even before the Hebrews.  
> 
> May Santo Toribio help us all in meeting our goals
> as he has helped others of our people.
> 
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA ---
> 
> 



		
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John,

 

I had never heard of the saint you are related to, so I started browsing
the internet for information on him, and I found this interesting article (check
link above).  What was fascinating to me is the picture of Toribio
Romo.  He bears a striking resemblance to my husband, his father, and his
great-grandmother Marciana Cervantes who was from Encarnacion de Diaz in Jalisco
and whose ancestors I have traced to Rincon de Romos in Aguascalientes which is
just south of our areas of interest in Zacatecas. 

 

How lucky you are to have traced your ancestors back to 1550; I've been
working so hard for over five YEARS and have only found our people back to
the early 1700's. Was Santo Toribio Romo perhaps guiding you?  The article
goes into a deep discussion about guardian angels, etc. all the way back in
history even before the Hebrews. 

 

May Santo Toribio help us all in meeting our goals as he has helped others
of our people.

 

Emilie Garcia

Port Orchard, WA ---

 

 

Los Cuervos?

Does anyone know where Los Cuervos might be located or might have been located back in the early 1800's? I have a tia who is 83 years old and she was in San Jose this Thanksgiving weekend and mentioned that she had heard that my GGGrandfather Prudencio Olmos had split from the Olmos family back in the early 1800's and that as a result of that split there may have been two separate Olmos families that originated in Los Cuervos. One branch stayed put and the other was established in Nochistlan Zac. but she doesn't know if Los Cuervos is in Jalisco, Zacatecas or Aguascalientes.

Thanks, any help would be appreciated........Alicia Carrillo........San Jose, Ca

 

Jose Luis Vasquez

Joseph,

 

Jose Luis Vasquez de Frias is the gentleman I tried to contact to see if he would be willing to interview for your podcast series. He wrote a book, ''Geneaologia de Nochistlan''. I tried making contact with him via expired e-mail addresses and was un-successful on all attempts.

 

Alicia Carrillo, San Jose, Ca

 


Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:

His name is so right on the end of my memory lobe. . .ah, who is he
again? An Author, que no?

Well here I go getting nosey. . .what are you contacting him for? Well
forget that question. If you do get ahold of him maybe you can mention
to him that I would like to invite him to visit the
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com podcast. Maybe he would consider working
on a submission to the project.

thanks Charles,

joseph

Charles Clark wrote:

>Does anyone know Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias' current e-mail and
>postal address, and telephone number? Please send. I lost his book and would
>like to replace it.
>
>Sincerely,
>

>



Jose Luis Vasquez

His name is so right on the end of my memory lobe. . .ah, who is he
again? An Author, que no?


Well here I go getting nosey. . .what are you contacting him for? Well
forget that question. If you do get ahold of him maybe you can mention
to him that I would like to invite him to visit the
http://NuestraFamiliaUnida.com podcast. Maybe he would consider working
on a submission to the project.


thanks Charles,

joseph

Charles Clark wrote:

Does anyone know Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias' current e-mail and
postal address, and telephone number? Please send. I lost his book and would
like to replace it.


Sincerely,







Need help with title.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@v...> wrote:
>
> While digging my roots I came across this: " Br. Pbro. Diego Gonzalez 
> de Hermosillo. "
> 
> I know what Pbro. means: Presbitero. But what is the Br. stands for? 

I believe it refers to a secondary degree, bachiller. For example, see http://
www.musicologiavenezolana.com/bperezr/cuerpo4.htm

I have see this designation often in old records from Mesquitic area.

Ed





Need help with title.

Thank you  Ed for your response to my
question about the meaning of "Br."  Other members of the group have also
come up with the answer, Bachiller.

 

Thanks to all of you.



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Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:13
AM

Subject: [ranchos] Re: Need help with
title.


--- In
href="mailto:ranchos@yahoogroups.com">ranchos@yahoogroups.com
, "John
Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@v...>
wrote:
>
> While digging my roots I came across this: " Br. Pbro.
Diego Gonzalez
> de Hermosillo. "
>
> I know what Pbro.
means: Presbitero. But what is the Br. stands for?

I believe it refers
to a secondary degree, bachiller. For example, see
href="http://">http://


href="http://www.musicologiavenezolana.com/bperezr/cuerpo4.htm">www.musicologiavenezolana.com/bperezr/cuerpo4.htm


I
have see this designation often in old records from Mesquitic
area.

Ed







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Hi Charles,

This is the e-mail address I have for Jose Luis:  
asturias_vazquez@...

It may or may not be current since I haven't corresponded with him in 
a couple of years.

Maria

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Charles Clark" <cclark98@p...> wrote:
>
> Does anyone know Jose Luis Vasquez y Rodriguez de Frias' current e-
mail and 
> postal address, and telephone number? Please send. I lost his book 
and would 
> like to replace it.
> 
> Sincerely,
> 
> Charles Clark
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> To: <ranchos@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, November 27, 2005 5:40 AM
> Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 676
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> There are 15 messages in this issue.
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> Topics in this digest:
> 
>       1. Need help with title.
>            From: "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@v...>
>       2. Re: "Ranchos Support Fund"
>            From: Olivia Jaurequi-Reyes <ojaurequireyes@y...>
>       3. Re: Need help with title.
>            From: "Emilie Garcia" <auntyemfaustus@h...>
>       4. Re: Need help with title.
>            From: "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@v...>
>       5. Re: "Ranchos Support Fund"
>            From: Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@p...>
>       6. RE: "Ranchos Support Fund"
>            From: "Irma GomezLucero" <igomezlucero@c...>
>       7. Re: "Ranchos Support Fund"
>            From: Joseph Puentes <makas@n...>
>       8. 1550: Suave!!!
>            From: Joseph Puentes <makas@n...>
>       9. Re: Questions for Colotlan interview
>            From: Joseph Puentes <makas@n...>
>      10. Br. Abbreviation.
>            From: José Román González López <jrgl01@y...>
>      11. Re: 1550: Suave!!!
>            From: "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@v...>
>      12. Re: Br. Abbreviation.
>            From: "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@v...>
>      13. Gonzalez from Jerez, Zacatecas, WAS Re: Br. Abbreviation.
>            From: Margarita Vallazza <TeaCozyGran@k...>
>      14. Re: Gonzalez from Jerez, Zacatecas, WAS Re: Br. 
Abbreviation.
>            From: "John Gonzalez" <1gnzlz@v...>
>      15. Re: 1550: Suave!!!
>            From: Joseph Puentes <makas@n...>
> 
> 
> 
______________________________________________________________________
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> 

Gonzalez from Jerez, Zacatecas, WAS Re: [ranchos] Br. Abbreviation.

Dear John,

(I've always wondered what it felt like to write that!:P) My Cenobio was born in Jerez around 1846, and I don't know if he was an only child or youngest or middle or oldest son. I found matrimonial information pertaining to his first marriage in 1864. His first wife was Eleuteria Tovar and she was 15 to his 18 years. They had the following children: Josepha, Candelaria, Jesus, and Herlindo (1878).



My great-grandmother, Francisca Saldivar, was his second wife. With her, he had Paula (1883), Matteo, Jose (1899), Juan, Altagracia (1894), Sarah, and Francisco. Hope we can connect somehow. Marge:)

On Nov 26, 2005, at 10:09 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:


<x-tad-smaller>Hi Margarita:</x-tad-smaller>

<x-tad-smaller>My grandmother was from Jerez and her last name was Gonzalez.  I have not had a chance to start looking in that area yet.  Her name was Apolonia Gonzalez married to Preciliano Cerros.  About 1880...</x-tad-smaller>

 

1gnzlz@...

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1550: Suave!!!





John Gonzalez wrote:


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I can give a very brief account of
what I've been doing, but I feel that being able to go back  about 455
 years was mostly luck and the fact that my ancestors stayed in the
same town  (Jalostotitlan, Jal.)  for that whole period.  From about
1550 to 1917 , when my Grandfather brought his family to California. 
 
I got started with the family tree
about 5 months ago, not knowing anything at all about findings roots
and doing  research.  I was surfing the internet one day and just
happened to run into the Ranchos web site.  I noticed that the area of
research being done by the group was mainly in Los Altos and
sorrounding areas.  I only had one piece of information when I
face="Georgia" size="2"> started, and that was that my grandfather was
from Jalisco and that he had been born in 1875.
 
I went to visit a cousin, who is
80 plus years old,  to see if I could get him to tell me something
about the family. I found out that the family was from Jalostotitlan,
and that they had come to California around 1917.  I also have a
picture of my grandfather standing next to his truck. I noticed the
license plate:  California-1928.

see what I mean that others could learn. I have this picture of my Dad
next to a vehicle and wanted to learn more. So you're saying that the
DMV has records for old license plates available? What was all
the information they included
and How can I from NC find the
information? Is there an address I send my request to? I guess I can do
that research on the net to come up with something but if you wouldn't
mind calling an asking if there is a certain website or department I
could call that would be great.

Gonzalez from Jerez, Zacatecas, WAS Re: [ranchos] Br. Abbreviation.



Hi Margarita:

My grandmother was from Jerez and her last name
was Gonzalez.  I have not had a chance to start looking in that area
yet.  Her name was Apolonia Gonzalez married to Preciliano
Cerros.  About 1880...

 



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Is anyone else besides me descended from Cenobio Gonzalez? His parents are Prudencio Gonzalez and Severiana Salcedo. I'm stuck there, can't find anything about their parents! Any of you Gonzalezes out there connected to them? Help! Marge V:)



On Nov 26, 2005, at 8:43 PM, John Gonzalez wrote:


<x-tad-smaller>Thank you for the information Jose.</x-tad-smaller>

<x-tad-smaller>Have you researched your "GONZALEZ" side of your family yet?</x-tad-smaller>

<x-tad-smaller>I am a Gonzalez from the "Gonzalez de Hermosillo" from Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.</x-tad-smaller>

 

1gnzlz@...

Br. Abbreviation.

Thank you for the information Jose.

Have you researched your "GONZALEZ" side of your
family yet?

I am a Gonzalez from the "Gonzalez de Hermosillo"
from Jalostotitlan, Jalisco. 



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Sent: Saturday, November 26, 2005 4:37
PM

Subject: [ranchos] Br.
Abbreviation.



Hi John:

The "Br." abbreviation is meaning to "Bachiller" (Bachelor).

Success!

JRGL.

Mexico City.

 

John Gonzalez wrote:

While digging my roots I came across this: " Br. Pbro. Diego Gonzalez

de Hermosillo. "

I know what Pbro. means: Presbitero. But what is the Br. stands for?

I know it is a religious title.  Is there any member out there that
has
any idea or can suggest a resource to look it up?  Any help will
be
greatly appreciated.  The subject was my gggggg Grandfather from

Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.




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Br. Abbreviation.

Hi John:
The "Br." abbreviation is meaning to "Bachiller" (Bachelor).
Success!
JRGL.
Mexico City.
 
John Gonzalez wrote:
While digging my roots I came across this: " Br. Pbro. Diego Gonzalez
de Hermosillo. "
I know what Pbro. means: Presbitero. But what is the Br. stands for?
I know it is a religious title.  Is there any member out there that has
any idea or can suggest a resource to look it up?  Any help will be
greatly appreciated.  The subject was my gggggg Grandfather from
Jalostotitlan, Jalisco.


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