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Andrés de la Torre and Marcela de Araiza

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I found three different marriage records for Andrés de la Torre and Marcela de Araiza and I am trying to make sense of them.

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Help with location or current name of Haltillero (spelling?) and Tepetitiq (spelling?) near Nochistlan

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Hi,

I have tried looking up Haltillero (spelling?) and Tepetitiq (spelling?) near Nochistlan and have come up empty. I put the links below.

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Published by iChristopher – Wed, 2018-05-23 19:41 | Permalink

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Hi Don,

the second one is Tepetiltic, which is near Nochistlán, The first one is probably Astillero, which is also near Nochistlán.

Chris

Pedro Carrillo de Avila

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Hello,

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Published by katy_brecht_quesada – Mon, 2018-05-21 22:13 | Permalink

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i'm not sure where they got that info. from? probably another incorrect piece of information on him, just like the trees that claim he had a son named hernan gonzalez y berrocal, or that tree that claimed his son pedro married isabel delgado(more than likely the pedro who married isabel was his grandson(a son of his son pedro) )

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I'm on the same boat. I'm guessing if the info is correct could be an immigration record or a will. Can't find either. Please keep me posted if you find anything. I will do the same.

thanks

susana

Ocotospa

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Has anyone heard of a place called "Ocotospa"?
That is what I was able to understand from the writing, but I could be wrong.
Relatives are from Atenguillo, but couldn't locate this "Ocotospa".

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Published by Ruben_Hdez – Sun, 2018-05-20 12:38 | Permalink

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The place was a.k.a. "Rincon de Ocotoxpa" or "San Nicolas de Ocotoxpa". That "Puesto" was in the "jurisdiccion" of "el pueblo de Cuquio" as can be seen in the christening record of Maria Casilda de Jesus christened on 09 April 1744. She was the sister of Don Andres Sanchez. The record is the last one of the page at the left hand side in the following image:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FQ5Y-X

I hope the information above may be of some help.

Carrasco Suarez Family

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Muy buenas tardes a todos

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Published by Ruben_Hdez – Sun, 2018-05-20 11:08 | Permalink

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Hola Enrique.

Matías y Catarina son los padres de Joaquina Suárez. Joaquina fué bautizada en Atotonilco el 19 de Enero de 1717:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J9GD-YQP

Matías y Catarina también tuvieron un hijo llamado Santiago. Santiago casó con María Paniagua en Ayo el Chico el 21 de Febrero de 1730:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCDP-4TY

Santiago Suárez y María Paniagua bautizaron a su hijo Manuel Perfecto en La Barca el 30 de Abril de 1741. Los padrinos de Manuel Perfecto fueron Francisco Carrasco y Joaquina Suárez. La partida de bautismo de Manuel Perfecto es la última de la hoja del lado derecho en la siguiente imagen:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-QVCD-N

Looking for Book

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Hello everyone,
I would like to know if anyone knows where I
could find or purchase a copy of the book,
"Historia de Totatiche" Part 2 by Esteban
Valdez Salazar. Any help would be appreciate

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Published by superhorrible – Fri, 2018-05-18 21:32 | Permalink

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Hello,

I need help. I'm trying to purchase the book HISTORIA DE TOTATICHE tomo II by Esteban Valdez Salazar. I already looked in Borderland Book store (they don't have it). Can anyone know where to find a copy of the book? Can anyone have the contact information of the author?

Any information would be greatly appreciated

susana L

Published by gpf13 – Sat, 2012-11-03 18:12 | Permalink

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According to www.Worldcat.org, the closest library to you that has a copy of "Historia de Totatiche" is the University of California, Irvine, library.

Esteban Valdez Salazar has some other books as well:
--Historia de la Parroquia de Totatiche : 250 aniversario
--Historia de Totatiche. II tomo, Títulos de tierra a los vasallos del rey (Nuestros antepasados) : documentos inéditos

I'm not sure if the second title ("II tomo") is actually what you are looking for, unfortunately, this is at the San Antonio public library.

There is also a book catalogued as "Historia de Totatiche : Jalisco, México" that is at the CSU-LA and UCLA libraries.

The University libraries shold have their catalogues online so you may be able to determine which of these is actually what you are looking for.

If you are not a student or alumni of any of these universities, you should check their policies for public access before going to the library.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

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Have you tried Borderlands?

MG

In a message dated 11/3/2012 6:31:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
sr92809@sbcglobal.net writes:

Hello everyone,
I would like to know if anyone knows where I
could find or purchase a copy of the book,
"Historia de Totatiche" Part 2 by Esteban
Valdez Salazar. Any help would be appreciate
it.

Gustavo
Carrillo

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Borderlands Books
MG

In a message dated 11/3/2012 6:31:15 P.M. Central Daylight Time,
sr92809@sbcglobal.net writes:

Hello everyone,
I would like to know if anyone knows where I
could find or purchase a copy of the book,
"Historia de Totatiche" Part 2 by Esteban
Valdez Salazar. Any help would be appreciate
it.

Gustavo
Carrillo

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Thank you for the replies. Unfortunately it is Tomo II
the one that I'm looking for and it looks like the only
library is in San Antonio. I checked out Borderlands
online catalog but didn't find the title there.

Thanks,
Gustavo Carrillo

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Contact George Farias...Borderland Book...because he cannot put all of the
books online. I did see a Teocaltiche...was that the one you are looking
for? Cannot remember the tomo??
George can sometimes get the book for you....just ask.
Mickey

In a message dated 11/4/2012 4:13:33 P.M. Central Standard Time,
sr92809@sbcglobal.net writes:

Thank you for the replies. Unfortunately it is Tomo II
the one that I'm looking for and it looks like the only
library is in San Antonio. I checked out Borderlands
online catalog but didn't find the title there.

Thanks,
Gustavo Carrillo

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Thanks, the Teocaltiche book is a different one. I should try
and contact George Farias directly.

Gustavo Carrillo

Padilla's from Jalostotitlan

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I was wondering if any Padilla family's from Jalostotitlan could share a picture of their ancestor's ? Unfortunately, I do not have any of mine and would love to see some pictures.

DIA DE LAS MADRES: Ana Maria India Ladina

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On this Mother’s Day, I’d like to celebrate the life of a forgotten mother: Ana Maria India Ladina.

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Published by R.A.Ricci – Mon, 2018-05-14 00:06 | Permalink

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Thank you Manny for your celebration of Ana María India Ladina.

Happy Mother’s Day everyone,

Rick

Published by 245luigi – Sun, 2018-05-13 15:47 | Permalink

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"They say you die twice. Once when you stop breathing and the second, a bit later on, when somebody mentions your name for the last time."

Because of you, Manny, Dona Ana Maria India Ladina is not forgotten :)

Where can I find Government Documents of Huejuquilla, Jalisco year 1880?

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Does anyone have any ideas of archives that I can browse through pertaining to Government of Huejuquilla year 1880?

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Published by Ruben_Hdez – Fri, 2018-05-11 11:56 | Permalink

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Hi Antonio.

Calixto Madera was the Presidente municipal de Huejuquilla on 1880 as can be seen on the following pdf file:

http://cdigital.dgb.uanl.mx/la/1080013558/1080013558_28.pdf

Please scroll down to page LXXXVII:

"Los CC. Director político de Totatiche, Director político de Mesquitic, Presidente municipal de Chimaltitan, Presidente municipal de Huejuquilla, Presidente municipal de Huejúcar, Y Presidente municipal de Santa María me dicen lo que á la letra copio:"

Starting at the two last lines of the page:

"Pongo en el Superior conocimiento de vd. que acaban de pasar en ésta las elecciones primarias, las que conforme á las ritualidades de la ley se verificaron con todas las garantías apetecibles.--Libertad en la Constitución. Huejuquilla, Junio 28 de 1880.--Calixto Madera.--Al jefe político de Colotlan"

This is the book:

http://www.worldcat.org/title/ultima-palabra-sobre-elecciones-federales-del-estado-de-jalisco-en-los-meses-de-junio-e-julio-de-1880/oclc/9714772

Hope you

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Thank you Ruben Hernandez! This is a big find and none of us knew about him being the Mayor of Huejuquilla.

Felipe de Esqueda and Maria de Estrada

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Hello Nuestros Ranchos Forum,

I'm looking for information on Felipe de Esqueda and Maria de Estrada they
would've been born around 1650 and have at least two children born in 1675
and 1677.

1668 detailed description of Huejuquilla (Huexuquilla)

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I was looking at archive "Las Indias"

Did a search for "Zacatecas" and filtered by years from 1668 - 1734.

Several old books came up:

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Published by apozolco – Tue, 2018-05-01 20:25 | Permalink

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I've seen a lot of reference to Huejuquilla, but in old Spanish they spelled it Guaxuquilla or Guaxuquiya.

Marquez brothers who were conquistadores con Cortes

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Can anyone trace the Marquez brothers (Francisco and Juan) who were with Cortes during the the conquest of Mexico in the 1520s to the families in Jalisco ?

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Published by katy_brecht_quesada – Tue, 2018-04-10 12:58 | Permalink

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i don't think either of my marquez de los olivos lines descend from those two

military records and wills

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is there a way or film number for military records and wills and testaments for Zacatecas?
I have not been able to find any.

Maria Francisca Ortiz - looking for her grandparents

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Hi all. I need a little help. I am looking for a bautismo for Maria Francisca Ortiz (aka Franca).

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Published by dansolis2000 – Fri, 2018-04-20 20:53 | Permalink

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Thank you so much for the quick response. I had found Jose Ricardo before, but I did not realized that his parents were still having babies. I did think that it would be possible for their age. However, I agree that he and Franca are siblings. I could not his grandparents correctly. I think that they are Jose Feliz Ortis and Maria Simona Castañeda. Maternal: Jose Silva Gonzales and Maria ????

Again thank you so much for your help and let me know if you can help with the names.

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Hi Daniel.

The names of the maternal grandparents are Jose Silverio Gonzalez and Maria Nieves Nava.

Maria Juana Gonzalez had a sister named Maria Luisa. Maria Luisa got married on 03 May 1830:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JZXD-Q68

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Maria Isidra Hinojosa's last name:

There is a spelling error. The editor wrote Maria Isidra Inojosa. No starting capital "H".

Published by Ruben_Hdez – Fri, 2018-04-20 16:47 | Permalink

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Hi Daniel.

Jose Ricardo de Jesus Ortiz was christened the same year Maria Justa de Jesus Maldonado was christened (1834). Both families were living in the same place: "Arroyo Seco de Arriba".

The parents of Jose Ricardo are Jose Francisco Ortiz and Maria Juana Gonzalez. So Jose Ricardo is the brother of Maria Francisca Ortiz.

Their 4 grandparents are listed in the christening record of Jose Ricardo:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-1997-79

Help on defuncion Librada Perez Muñoz

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I would greatly appreciate any leads on how to find info on the death of Librada Perez Muñoz, wife of Lamberto de Alba Jimenez.

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Published by R.A.Ricci – Sat, 2018-04-21 07:21 | Permalink

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Librada Perez Munoz
Gender Female
Christening Date 03 May 1863
Christening Place SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Cleto Perez (Anacleto Perez)
Mother's Name Higinia Munoz
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVRG-BFH : 10 February 2018), Higinia Munoz in entry for Librada Perez Munoz, 03 May 1863; citing SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 220,664

R.A.Ricci

Death Date of Librada Perez Muñoz

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I am a bit perplexed by the search engines, I have tried different spellings and I can see the mothers last name is not used until recently, such that the grave of Lamberto (her husband) only says "de

Job Title Alvitrista

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My grandfather's grandfather Rafael De Anda who died in Oct. 30, 1867 in Encarnacion de Diaz, Jalisco was listed as an Alvitrista/Albitrista on his death record.

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Published by Ruben_Hdez – Sat, 2018-04-14 08:45 | Permalink

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Hello Aurora.

I agree with Manny, the word might be "Arbitrista" but it was misspelled (The declarant Tranquilino Moreno was also an "alvitrista").

Here is the relevant record (Rec. No. 225) so others can take a look and express their opinion.

Published by Nepomuceno – Sat, 2018-04-14 16:15 | Permalink

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Hola,
Tanto el declarante, Tranquilino Moreno, como el fallecido, Rafael Anda, eran "alvetristas"; es decir, personas que sabían curar animales, conocedores de la albeitería (refiérase a cualquier diccionario).
Saludos.
Luis Bojórquez

________________________________
From: General on behalf of baratero69@hotmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:42 AM
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Arbitrista

Hello Aurora. I agree with Manny, the word should be "Arbitrista" but it was
misspelled (The declarant Tranquilino Moreno was also an "alvitrista"). Here
is the relevant record [1] (Rec. No. 225) so others can take a look and
express their opinion.

[1]
https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.f…

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Published by HaciendaRomo – Sat, 2018-04-14 20:15 | Permalink

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Gracias Luis . Alvertrista persona que cura animales tiene mas sentido.
Saludos y gracias

Published by Nepomuceno – Sun, 2018-04-15 20:30 | Permalink

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Para mí ha sido una enseñanza el investigar para dar una respuesta, no hay nada qué agradecer.

En el registro cuya liga compartiste, en dos ocasiones y con toda claridad fue escrita la palabra "alvetrista", no alvertrista. En todo caso, quien hizo el registro se comió una "i" pues debió haber escrito "alveitrista" y mejorándose, introducir "b" en vez de "v", "albeitrista"; finalmente, tal vez, lo formal hubiera sido "albeitero".

Saludos.

Luis Bojórquez

PD: "Durante muchos siglos, el término «albeytero» o «albeitero» distinguió a quienes curaban a los caballos en la Península Ibérica, con la sola excepción de los territorios vinculados a la Corona de Aragón", tomado de https://books.google.com/books?id=ymV-mJ9WANQC&pg=PT312&lpg=PT312&dq=%2…
[https://books.google.com/books/content?id=ymV-mJ9WANQC

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Published by rmfpdx – Mon, 2018-04-16 13:51 | Permalink

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Segun la Academia (rae.es), albeitar (con acento en la "e") es un sustantivo que significa "veterinario" (veterinarian en ingles). La etimologia de esta palabra es como sigue: Del ar. hisp. albáyṭar, este del ar. clas. bayṭar o bayṭār, y este del gr. ἱππίατρος hippiatros.
Creo que las otras formas relacionadas con "albetrista" son variedades de la palabra original, albeitar, que he encontrado en varios de los archivos. Quien ejerce cuidado médico de animales es un albeitar.

(Perdone la omisión de acentos, que los emails generados de este sitio web no los reconoce y no los muestra correctamente.)

Published by Nepomuceno – Sat, 2018-04-14 16:15 | Permalink

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Hola,
Tanto el declarante, Tranquilino Moreno, como el fallecido, Rafael Anda, eran "alvetristas"; es decir, personas que sabían curar animales, conocedores de la albeitería (refiérase a cualquier diccionario).
Saludos.
Luis Bojórquez

________________________________
From: General on behalf of baratero69@hotmail.com
Sent: Saturday, April 14, 2018 8:42 AM
To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Arbitrista

Hello Aurora. I agree with Manny, the word should be "Arbitrista" but it was
misspelled (The declarant Tranquilino Moreno was also an "alvitrista"). Here
is the relevant record [1] (Rec. No. 225) so others can take a look and
express their opinion.

[1]
https://nam01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.f…

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Published by Ruben_Hdez – Sat, 2018-04-14 16:54 | Permalink

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Muchas gracias Luis!

Cada día se aprende algo nuevo.

Albeitería = Veterinaria (Ciencia)

Alvetrista = Veterinario

Published by jrefugioghermosillo – Fri, 2018-04-13 18:25 | Permalink

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Hi Aurora,

Double check that "l": are you sure it's not an "r"? The word might be "arbitrista," which would be an arbitrator.

Good luck!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

Jesus, Guadalajara

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hello Nuestros Ranchos forum,

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Published by mralvarez314 – Tue, 2018-04-10 20:39 | Permalink

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Danny,

A couple of years ago I noticed that some indexed records incorrectly showed the parish church of Jesus Maria, Jalisco as Jesus, Guadalajara. I think this error may have been corrected recently and that those records now say Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico. Perhaps the couple you seek is in Jesus Maria Pueblo and not in Guadalajara.

Published by Ruben_Hdez – Tue, 2018-04-10 14:00 | Permalink

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Hello Danny.

In our time Jesús is a church in the city of Guadalajara.

Please see the following list:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DKS7-Q?owc=3JW2-3TL%3A171935001%3Fcc%3D1874591&cc=1874591

The listed places are churches (or parishes) in the same city, (Except the first two: Arzobispado and Diócesis).

Can you tell who the couple you´re looking for is?. Perhaps somebody can help to find them.

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There's a small town in Jalisco with that name

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> On Apr 10, 2018, at 2:34 PM, baratero69@hotmail.com wrote:
>
> Hello Danny. In our time Jesús is a church in the city of Guadalajara.
> Plesee see the following list:
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DKS7-Q?owc=3JW2-3TL%3A…
> [1] The listed places are churches (or parishes) in the same city, (Except
> the first two: Arzobispado and Diócesis). Can you tell who the couple
> you´re looking for is?. Perhaps someone can help to find them.
>
> [1] https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DKS7-Q?owc=3JW2-3TL%3A…
>

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Do you know where it is? I have always known that *Jesus*, Guadalajara,
refers to Jesus being the Cathedral where the records are or were kept for
that part of Guadalajara. I also heard of a name Jesus Maria as another
cathedral? I'm just curious. Although I was born in Jamay, Jalisco, I
grew up in the U.S., and I have visited family there but not enough to know
the towns. :-(

Esther Jordan (birth name: Maria Graciela Esther Lopez Mendoza)

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Jesús María is a small town in Jalisco , enter to familysearch and then look for Jalisco and you are going to see Jesus Maria (pueblo )but look in civil registration
And there’s a church named la capilla de Jesus in Guadalajara I think is Garibaldi and federalismo Avenue

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 11, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Esther Jordan wrote:
>
> Do you know where it is? I have always known that *Jesus*, Guadalajara,
> refers to Jesus being the Cathedral where the records are or were kept for
> that part of Guadalajara. I also heard of a name Jesus Maria as another
> cathedral? I'm just curious. Although I was born in Jamay, Jalisco, I
> grew up in the U.S., and I have visited family there but not enough to know
> the towns. :-(
>
> Esther Jordan (birth name: Maria Graciela Esther Lopez Mendoza)

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Thank you! I'm hoping to go visit family before the year is over and do
hope to visit some of these places.

Esther

On Wed, Apr 11, 2018 at 9:43 AM, Martha Gomez
wrote:

> Jesús María is a small town in Jalisco , enter to familysearch and then
> look for Jalisco and you are going to see Jesus Maria (pueblo )but look in
> civil registration
> And there’s a church named la capilla de Jesus in Guadalajara I think is
> Garibaldi and federalismo Avenue
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 11, 2018, at 10:07 AM, Esther Jordan wrote:
> >
> > Do you know where it is? I have always known that *Jesus*, Guadalajara,
> > refers to Jesus being the Cathedral where the records are or were kept
> for
> > that part of Guadalajara. I also heard of a name Jesus Maria as another
> > cathedral? I'm just curious. Although I was born in Jamay, Jalisco, I
> > grew up in the U.S., and I have visited family there but not enough to
> know
> > the towns. :-(
> >
> > Esther Jordan (birth name: Maria

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Yes, my paternal grandparents were born here and married here. I actually plan on visiting this summer, have already purchased my ticket!

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I’m familiar with the church. I’m trying to determine where else or what’s
the next closest location to Jesús. I’m looking for a couple that appear
there on one record only. No other children or grandchildren appear there,
no other marriages, nothing at all. What would be the next most likely
location near Jesús Guadalajara

Danny

On Tue, Apr 10, 2018 at 1:34 PM wrote:

> Hello Danny. In our time Jesús is a church in the city of Guadalajara.
> Plesee see the following list:
>
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DKS7-Q?owc=3JW2-3TL%3A…
> [1] The listed places are churches (or parishes) in the same city, (Except
> the first two: Arzobispado and Diócesis). Can you tell who the couple
> you´re looking for is?. Perhaps someone can help to find them.
>
> [1]
>
> https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DKS7-Q?owc=3JW2-3TL%3A…
>

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Hello Danny.

The nearest parish to Jesus in the city of Guadalajara is San Miguel Espiritu Santo. it´s less than 1 mile away from Jesus.

You can see the exact locations in Google Maps searching for:

Jesus = Parroquia Dulce Nombre de Jesús, Calle Garibaldi, Jesús, Guadalajara, Jal.

San Miguel Espiritu Santo = Parroquia San Miguel Del Espíritu Santo, Avenida Miguel Hidalgo y Costilla, Zona Centro, Guadalajara, Jal.

Best of luck in your search.

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Ruben,

thanks for the information. San Miguel Espiritu doesn't go back before the 1900s and that's part of the problem. im trying to find the nearest location with available non indexed records between 1850 to 1890.

Danny

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I wonder if I might be able to find my g-great grandmother in those
Guadalajara records? Her name was Maria Lugarda Aguilar married to Antonio
Lopez and I can't find them in Jamay or La Barca, Jalisco. There seem to
be missing records for 1854 that I think they would have gotten married.
Could you give me an idea as to where to look?

Thank you,
Esther Jordan (Lopez Mendoza)

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 8:14 AM, wrote:

> Danny, most (or all) of the church records of the city of Guadalajara for
> that time frame are indexed. There are available civil records from 1857
> and
> on: Guadalajara: Nacimientos, matrimonios y defunciones. [1]
>
> [1] https://www.familysearch.org/search/image/index?owc=MGDZ-4WL
> %3A206555501%3Fcc%3D1918187
>

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Hello Esther.

There is a christening record for Jose Rafael Lopez Aguilar in La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico on 19 Apr 1833. Jose Rafael is the son of Antonio Lopez and Lugarda Aguilar.

So Antonio and Lugarda should have gotten married before 1833.

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I do think I made a mistake with the years. Antonio Lopez was born in 1799
and Lugarda birth 1800-1815? Their children: Rafael Lopez Aguilar, 1833,
Tomas Lopez Aguilar, 1834, Simona or Simeona Lopez Aguilar, 1840; Maria
Teodocia and Jesus Lopez Aguilar mentioned somewhere else I don't know
where I kept those notes but they have birthdays the same year, 1837??

My grandfather used to say that his mother Guadalupe Velasco had come from
Arandas or Atotonilco but that is hearsay at this point.

On Sat, Apr 14, 2018 at 9:40 AM, wrote:

> Hello Esther. There is a christening record for Jose Rafael Lopez Aguilar
> in
> La Barca, Jalisco, Mexico on 19 Apr 1833. Jose Rafael is the son of Antonio
> Lopez and Lugarda Aguilar. So Antonio and Lugarda should have gotten
> married
> before 1833.
>

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Hi Ruben and Danny,

I have the same or similar question to Danny. I have a couple that baptized a child in Jesus, Guadalajara in the late 1800's and the parent and grandparents that are named do not appear in any other record, so they must've been married and baptized they're other children, of which there are several, in a nearby parish. My guess is that whatever nearby parish it is, is probably not within Guadalajara and also not indexed. The people I'm looking for are Sinforiano Garcia married to Donaciana Vejar and Leonardo Vasquez married to Susan Garcia. Both of these couples would probably have been born around 1850 and married around 1870.

Chris

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Hi Chris.

Civil records starts from 1857. If there is a civil record for the birth of the baptized child, usually the record of birth states how old the parents are and the place(s) where they are from.

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Hi Chris.

There is a record of birth of Miguel Vasquez (Rec. No. 2686):

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPNB-VHM?i=461&wc=MGDG-HZ9%3A206555501%2C206589601&cc=1918187

The name of the maternal grandmother is Francisca Bejar (instead of Donaciana) according to the record.

I hope this may be of some help in your search.

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Hi Ruben,
That record actually contradicts the baptism record where the madrina is named Francisca Bejar and the paternal grandmother is named Donaciana. I need to find a different record for a different child that will clarify which is correct. Either way, there’s no other record of baptized children or marriages for either the abuelos paternos or maternos. 
Chris

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On Sunday, April 15, 2018, 3:43 PM, baratero69@hotmail.com wrote:

Hi Chris. There is a record of birth of Miguel Vasquez (Rec. No. 2686):
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPNB-VHM?i=461&wc=MGDG…
[1] The name of the paternal grandmother is Francisca Bejar according to this
record. I hope this may be of some help in your search.

[1] 
https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:33SQ-GPNB-VHM?i=461&wc=MGDG…

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