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they're all the same people. if you look at the informacion matrimonial dated december 26, 1720, you can see that the parents are the same:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:S3HT-XC7S-Z9M

Hi Don,

the second one is Tepetiltic, which is near Nochistlán, The first one is probably Astillero, which is also near Nochistlán.

Chris

i'm not sure where they got that info. from? probably another incorrect piece of information on him, just like the trees that claim he had a son named hernan gonzalez y berrocal, or that tree that claimed his son pedro married isabel delgado(more than likely the pedro who married isabel was his grandson(a son of his son pedro) )

The place was a.k.a. "Rincon de Ocotoxpa" or "San Nicolas de Ocotoxpa". That "Puesto" was in the "jurisdiccion" of "el pueblo de Cuquio" as can be seen in the christening record of Maria Casilda de Jesus christened on 09 April 1744. She was the sister of Don Andres Sanchez. The record is the last one of the page at the left hand side in the following image:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-FQ5Y-X

I hope the information above may be of some help.

Hola Enrique.

Matías y Catarina son los padres de Joaquina Suárez. Joaquina fué bautizada en Atotonilco el 19 de Enero de 1717:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:J9GD-YQP

Matías y Catarina también tuvieron un hijo llamado Santiago. Santiago casó con María Paniagua en Ayo el Chico el 21 de Febrero de 1730:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:JCDP-4TY

Santiago Suárez y María Paniagua bautizaron a su hijo Manuel Perfecto en La Barca el 30 de Abril de 1741. Los padrinos de Manuel Perfecto fueron Francisco Carrasco y Joaquina Suárez. La partida de bautismo de Manuel Perfecto es la última de la hoja del lado derecho en la siguiente imagen:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939L-QVCD-N

Hello,

I need help. I'm trying to purchase the book HISTORIA DE TOTATICHE tomo II by Esteban Valdez Salazar. I already looked in Borderland Book store (they don't have it). Can anyone know where to find a copy of the book? Can anyone have the contact information of the author?

Any information would be greatly appreciated

susana L

According to www.Worldcat.org, the closest library to you that has a copy of "Historia de Totatiche" is the University of California, Irvine, library.

Esteban Valdez Salazar has some other books as well:
--Historia de la Parroquia de Totatiche : 250 aniversario
--Historia de Totatiche. II tomo, Títulos de tierra a los vasallos del rey (Nuestros antepasados) : documentos inéditos

I'm not sure if the second title ("II tomo") is actually what you are looking for, unfortunately, this is at the San Antonio public library.

There is also a book catalogued as "Historia de Totatiche : Jalisco, México" that is at the CSU-LA and UCLA libraries.

The University libraries shold have their catalogues online so you may be able to determine which of these is actually what you are looking for.

If you are not a student or alumni of any of these universities, you should check their policies for public access before going to the library.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Thank you Manny for your celebration of Ana María India Ladina.

Happy Mother’s Day everyone,

Rick

"They say you die twice. Once when you stop breathing and the second, a bit later on, when somebody mentions your name for the last time."

Because of you, Manny, Dona Ana Maria India Ladina is not forgotten :)

Hi Antonio.

Calixto Madera was the Presidente municipal de Huejuquilla on 1880 as can be seen on the following pdf file:

http://cdigital.dgb.uanl.mx/la/1080013558/1080013558_28.pdf

Please scroll down to page LXXXVII:

"Los CC. Director político de Totatiche, Director político de Mesquitic, Presidente municipal de Chimaltitan, Presidente municipal de Huejuquilla, Presidente municipal de Huejúcar, Y Presidente municipal de Santa María me dicen lo que á la letra copio:"

Starting at the two last lines of the page:

"Pongo en el Superior conocimiento de vd. que acaban de pasar en ésta las elecciones primarias, las que conforme á las ritualidades de la ley se verificaron con todas las garantías apetecibles.--Libertad en la Constitución. Huejuquilla, Junio 28 de 1880.--Calixto Madera.--Al jefe político de Colotlan"

This is the book:

http://www.worldcat.org/title/ultima-palabra-sobre-elecciones-federales-del-estado-de-jalisco-en-los-meses-de-junio-e-julio-de-1880/oclc/9714772

Hope you

I've seen a lot of reference to Huejuquilla, but in old Spanish they spelled it Guaxuquilla or Guaxuquiya.

Tengo en mis investigaciones genealógicas, mucha información de las familias Márquez a partir de1700 aprox. si alguien está interesado, favor de comunicarlo, beutelsp@hotmail.com

i don't think either of my marquez de los olivos lines descend from those two

I'd be interested as well

I'd be interested as well

Hi Daniel,

Maria Justa de Jesus Maldonado; abuelos paternos are Maximo Maldonado & Maria Isidra Hinojosa, maternos are Francisco Ortiz & Maria Juana Gonzalez. Padarinos Jose Antonio Arango & Maria Jesus Miranda. Bottom right:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-1997-BV?i=205&wc=3PSC-…

Good luck!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

Hi Daniel.

Jose Ricardo de Jesus Ortiz was christened the same year Maria Justa de Jesus Maldonado was christened (1834). Both families were living in the same place: "Arroyo Seco de Arriba".

The parents of Jose Ricardo are Jose Francisco Ortiz and Maria Juana Gonzalez. So Jose Ricardo is the brother of Maria Francisca Ortiz.

Their 4 grandparents are listed in the christening record of Jose Ricardo:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939N-1997-79

Librada Perez Munoz
Gender Female
Christening Date 03 May 1863
Christening Place SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO
Father's Name Cleto Perez (Anacleto Perez)
Mother's Name Higinia Munoz
Citing this Record
"México bautismos, 1560-1950," database, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVRG-BFH : 10 February 2018), Higinia Munoz in entry for Librada Perez Munoz, 03 May 1863; citing SAN JUAN DE LOS LAGOS,JALISCO,MEXICO, reference ; FHL microfilm 220,664

R.A.Ricci

Hi Abraham,

Librada Perez Munoz died August 21st 1952. Her father was Cleto Perez and her mother was Higinia Munoz. Here is the record:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:939D-HN9Q-XL

Chris

Hello Aurora.

I agree with Manny, the word might be "Arbitrista" but it was misspelled (The declarant Tranquilino Moreno was also an "alvitrista").

Here is the relevant record (Rec. No. 225) so others can take a look and express their opinion.

Hi Aurora,

Double check that "l": are you sure it's not an "r"? The word might be "arbitrista," which would be an arbitrator.

Good luck!
Manny Diez Hermosillo

Danny,

A couple of years ago I noticed that some indexed records incorrectly showed the parish church of Jesus Maria, Jalisco as Jesus, Guadalajara. I think this error may have been corrected recently and that those records now say Jesus Maria Pueblo, Jalisco, Mexico. Perhaps the couple you seek is in Jesus Maria Pueblo and not in Guadalajara.

Hello Danny.

In our time Jesús is a church in the city of Guadalajara.

Please see the following list:

https://www.familysearch.org/ark:/61903/3:1:9392-DKS7-Q?owc=3JW2-3TL%3A171935001%3Fcc%3D1874591&cc=1874591

The listed places are churches (or parishes) in the same city, (Except the first two: Arzobispado and Diócesis).

Can you tell who the couple you´re looking for is?. Perhaps somebody can help to find them.