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San Julio Álvarez Mendoza Family

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I received an email from a relative asking me if we were related to San Julio Álvarez Mendoza.

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Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Wed, 2015-04-08 15:54 | Permalink

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I have been able to construct a tree to five generations and yes he does have surnames that are common to los altos de Jalisco but have not yet been able to connect them to any of my branches. I have connected them to San Juan de Los Lagos and Atotonilco de los altos. I will keep searching and will post when I find a confirmed connection.
R A Ricci

Capellania question

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I'm hoping someone can help me find the testament and capellania for Marcos Gonzalez from Jalpa who died in 1670.

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Published by ArturoG – Mon, 2015-04-06 10:32 | Permalink

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I found a partial transcription of the testament of Marcos Gonzalez Hidalgo, here: http://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Gonz%C3%A1lez_Hidalgo-20

The testament states "Marcos González, vecino del pueblo de Jalpa, hijo legitimo de Marcos González, natural de los Reinos de Castilla y Mariana Navarro, mis padres difuntos, vecinos que fueron de la villa del Saltillo en el Reino de la Nueva Vizcaya."

More specifically Marcos' parents are Marcos Gonzalez Hidalgo del Valle and Mariana (Juana) NAVARRO RODRIGUEZ, who settled in Monterrey. See the links below:
http://www.sologenealogia.com/gen/getperson.php?personID=I456&tree=009
and
http://www.currays.net/Gonzalez%20Web%20Project/wp03/wp03_466.htm

Is anyone a direct male ancestor of this Gonzalez line, as I'm interested in seeing if my paternal DNA is a match.

Arturo

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Hello Arturo,
 
Go to: http://sigue.aguascalientes.gob.mx/axweb/
 
Username: sigue.publica
Password: publica
 
Once you log-in, right-click on SGG-ARCHIVO-HISTORICO - ACERVOS COLONIALES SIGLOS XVII A XIX, and select "New Query." (double-click, if you’re on a mac)
 
For "Lugar" choose "Aguascalientes"; for CONTRATANTES, type in Miguel Gonzalez and click SUBMIT. The image should open up and you can download it. The date of his testamento is 17 Mar 1670; there are 8 pages.
 
Good luck, and let me know if you can’t open it, and I’ll download it and email it to you.

Saludos,
Manny Diez Hermosillo

FW: The Spanish Founding of Florida & the Spanish Jesuit Massacre of Ajacán (Modern day Virginia)

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From: Angel R.

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Published by makas_nc – Mon, 2015-04-06 17:30 | Permalink

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From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2015 6:17 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: The Spanish Founding of Florida & the Spanish Jesuit Massacre of Ajacán (Modern day Virginia)

Hello,

I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on The Spanish Founding of Florida & the Spanish Jesuit Massacre of Ajacán (Modern day Virginia). If you would like to learn more about Spanish exploration of the east coast then this presentation is for you. There will be a talk on the subject on April 17 at 3:30 PM, through the University of New Mexico Osher program. The class number is 19450.

To register for this Osher class go to the following link:

https://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformat… &int_class_id=68182&utm_source=CE-Osher Lifelong Learning Classes: Adults 50+&utm_medium=CE-Class-List&utm_campaign=The Spanish Founding of Florida and the Spanish Jesuit Massacre of Ajacán (Modern day Virginia)&

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If interested please contact Angel Cervantes for the attached flyer.

From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
Sent: Friday, August 23, 2013 11:40 PM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: The Spanish Founding of Florida & the Spanish Jesuit Massacre of
Ajacán (Modern day Virginia)

Hello,

I would like to invite you to attend a free DNA presentation on the Spanish
Founding of Florida & the Spanish Jesuit Massacre of Ajacán (Modern day
Virginia) on August 24, 2013 at 2:00 pm. For more information, please see
the attached flyer.

Best Regards,
Ángel de Cervantes
Project Administrator
New Mexico DNA Project
Iberian Peninsula DNA Project

Published by rubenhernandez57 – Thu, 2013-07-25 18:15 | Permalink

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Where's the attached flyer?

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Puentes"
To: general@nuestrosranchos.org, "Ciudad Juarez"
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 7:46:54 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] FW: The Spanish Founding of Florida & the Spanish Jesuit Massacre of Ajacán (Modern day Virginia)

 

 

From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 24, 2013 2:06 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: The Spanish Founding of Florida & the Spanish Jesuit Massacre of
Ajacán (Modern day Virginia)

 

Hello,

I would like to invite you to attend a DNA presentation on the Spanish
Founding of Florida & the Spanish Jesuit Massacre of Ajacán (Modern day
Virginia) on August 24, 2013 at 2:00 pm. For more information, please see
the attached flyer.

Best Regards,
Ángel de Cervantes
Project Administrator
New Mexico DNA Project
Iberian Peninsula DNA Project

Want to update my research

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It's been quite some time, and I have recently updated my tree, and I wish to update it here. I am using myheritage.com. Can you help?

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Published by Joseph_de_Leon – Mon, 2015-04-06 08:37 | Permalink

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First you need to ask the NR moderator to create your Tree on GEDCOM.

Second you need to convert your data to GED 5.5 and upload to your new GEDCOM Tree on Nuestros Ranchos using the "ADMINSTRATION" button on the GEDCOM site.

Good luck!

Joseph de Leon

Research Digest, Vol 111, Issue 4

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I believe Estefana did have different parents. (I'm going over old notes a distant cousin wrote for me.) this cousin had Estefana listed as having Tadeo Dias & Genoveva as the parents.

Sebastian de Avila & Lugarda Dias de Leon / Nicolas de Avila & Gertrudis Falcon de la Garza of Pinos, Zacatecas

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Published by jrefugioghermosillo – Thu, 2015-04-02 16:01 | Permalink

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Hello Rosalinda,

Can you share that dispensa? I would like to see it, thank you. ;)

I have Nicolas de Avila, son of Juan Lopez de Avila and Juana Trujillo, married to Magdalena de Contreras, though their children were born between 1707 and 1720, so Gertudis could be a 2nd marriage (unless I'm wrong about Magdalena Contreras... need to review my notes).

Maria Gertrudis Falcon de la Garza was the daughter of Joseph de la Garza and Catalina Gomez-Avila; she was baptized 23 Nov 1713, Pinos:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15233-31246-40?cc=1804458&wc…

Joseph de la Garza was son of Phelipe de la Garza and Phelipa Santiago, and Catalina Gomez, the daughter of Blas Gomez de las Ruelas and Maria de Avila. They were married 10 Feb 1706, Pinos:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-15246-29107-90?cc=1804458&wc…

I have Blas Gomez and Maria de Avila in my lines, they were from Zacatecas, Zacatecas, and moved to Salitre

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Hi Manny,

This is the dispensation in question:

https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18433-6041-14?cc=1874591&wc=…

On this page, https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18433-6324-26?cc=1874591&wc=…

it shows a family tree, with the pretenso, Francisco de Avila (son of Sebastian de Avila & Lugarda Dias) marrying Maria Regina de Avila (daughter of Ygnacio de Avila & Maria Francisca Araiza). As you can see in the tree, the tronco is Ticio (I was trying to figure out this name) Davila & Maria Zapata. Since I couldn't figure out the man's name, I decided to trace Ygnacio's line up, which led me to his father, Doroteo, and in turn Doroteo's father, Bernardo de Avila. Bernardo, as you know, is son of Juan Lopez de Avila & his second wife, Juana de Trujillo. Juan & Juana had a son, Nicolas, and in the dispensation tree, this Nicolas is the son of the tronco couple. The timing of Nicolas' baptism (as son

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Hi Rosalina,

This is brilliant - I descend from Bernardo, and I’ve tracked these lines thoroughly, so I’m sure I can help you crack this.

Let me look this over, and I’ll see what I have. In the meantime, upon looking at my notes, Nicolas de Avila-Trujillo could NOT have been married to Magdalena Contreras, since he was born in 1696, and Nicolas de Avila and Magdalena Contreras were already having children the first decade of the 1700s.

You’re on track!

Manny Diez Hermosillo

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Hi Rosalinda,

You’re right, Juan Lopez de Avila and Juana de Trujillo are the correct tronco for this tree, which reminds us how foggy the descendants' & testigos’ memories can be. I have the Bernardo side down to Joseph Ygnacio Raphael de Avila (though not his wife), and it corresponds to the tree in the dispensa. Nicolas and Bernardo are brothers, though, as you mention, it’d be nice to seal it with marriage or burial records for Nicolas de Avila and Gertrudis de la Garza, as well as others.

The earliest baptism I have for one of their children is for Joseph Bonificio, who was baptized 27 Jan 1727, Pinos. He was born on Salitre, where her family lived (between there and San Nicolas, where she was born), and where they were likely married. Unless we have an earlier birth, we’re looking at them marrying before early 1726, and in Pinos. I have some time this evening, I’ll dig through the Pinos archives.

Regarding “Ticio,” on no other record have I seen Juan de Avila referred to as

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Looking for roots of Estefana Dias and Redecindo Torres

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Hope I'm doing this right.

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Published by Joseph_de_Leon – Sat, 2015-04-04 09:04 | Permalink

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apparently Estefana had different parents. I show Tadeo Diaz and Josefa Torres.

The Tadeo Diaz you refer to is apparently not this one. That Tadeo was married to Genoveva Leanos between 1819 and 1848 and had many children, one of whom is Florentino.

Estefana was born in January 1830. Unless she was an illegitimate child, you have the wrong father.

Joseph de Leon

Published by Joseph_de_Leon – Wed, 2015-04-01 07:42 | Permalink

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Florentino is married to my 3rd cousin 2x removed Brigida Cabrera.

e-mail me at josecarlos1944@hotmail,com and I'll help you or anyone else by sending a several page self-help essay I wrote on HOW TO RESEARCH YOUR ANCESTORS IN MEXICO

Joseph de Leon

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yeah marty, joseph could explain the process more clearly than I could, but i do help people with finding links to a digital copies of a record when i have the time to find it but to warn ya, my research focuses more on huejucar, colotlan, jerez, and tepetongo, but occasionally on tlaltenango, monte escobedo, and mesquitic. places elsewhere like sant maria de los angeles not so much but i've looked there a few times mainly since a few ancient( like 1800's ancient) relatives married there.

also check these two places for marriage records
http://www.guadalajaradispensas.com/
http://guadalajaradispensas.tumblr.com/

La Purisima Concepcion, Valparaiso church records

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Does anyone know if church records exist for La Purisima Concepcion in Valparaiso, Zacatecas for the periods, pre-1834 & 1834-1865?

Thanks.

Michael Carrillo

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Pars Website document may contain about founding of Huejuquilla El Alto in 1649

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https://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

The reference number is: GUADALAJARA,230,L.3

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Published by MADERA_32 – Fri, 2015-04-03 13:28 | Permalink

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Starts out with index list with page numbers as for example I am on page 12 of the 742 page document:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/2w3rhh0.jpg

Say "conversion de indios tepehuanos" on page 86

I am looking for Huejuquilla El Alto

This is "registro de nuevo galicia" I found in the PARS website.

I need to remind myself also look for a "registro de zacatecas" in the PARS site.

Odd because when I enter that reference number it comes out differently that the original documet I am looking at. What I originally am looking at is this:

http://oi61.tinypic.com/25f4llw.jpg

And the way I found is I typed in google search:

Visita del obispado de Guadalajara y nueva población en el valle de Huejuquilla

And selected the one that is circle in green:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/nbqfeo.jpg

And it took me right to the 742 page document in the pars website

Now I see how to get to the registro de nuevo galicia:

Just copy and paste this reference number in the pars website: GUADALAJARA,230,L.3

Then

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University of Austin Texas Collection of Maps

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I was reading about mining in Bolanos, Jalisco, Mexico:

http://geo-mexico.com/?p=10108

And it lead me to map collections by the University of Austin, Texas:

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Published by superhorrible – Thu, 2015-04-02 23:25 | Permalink

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Thank you for the link. I've been reading about mining too, but in Parras, Chihuahua.

Thanks again

susana

FW: The Carthaginian Connection to New Mexican Families (Haplogroup E1b1b1b)

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From: Angel R.

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Published by makas_nc – Tue, 2015-03-31 19:01 | Permalink

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No its not, contact Angel directly for more info.

Joseph

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Joseph Puentes
Clean@h2opodcast.com
http://h2opodcast.com/vsse.html

> -----Original Message-----
> From: General [mailto:general-bounces@lists.nuestrosranchos.org] On
> Behalf Of Paul J Gomez
> Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2015 2:04 PM
> To: general@nuestrosranchos.org
> Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] FW: The Carthaginian Connection to New
> Mexican Families (Haplogroup E1b1b1b)
>
> Is this event available online? I live in California.
>
> Paul J Gomez
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Mar 31, 2015, at 9:17 AM, Joseph Puentes wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
> > Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 1:22 PM
> > To: undisclosed-recipients:
> > Subject: The Carthaginian Connection to New Mexican Families
> > (Haplogroup E1b1b1b)
> >
> >
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> >
> >
> > I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on the Carthaginian
> connection to New

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Conde of Hacienda San Mateo, Valparaiso, Zacatecas, Mexico paid for expedition to Texas

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I am reading a PDF file that is long and interesting on Colonial Zacatecas.

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Published by MADERA_32 – Mon, 2015-03-30 22:30 | Permalink

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I found it on page 106 of the PDF file.

Also on the pdf file I was reading about the colonization of San Martin De Bolanos and Francisco Ibarra baptizes San Martin as "Nombre De Dios."

I have seen that name off and on in the LDS archives "Nombre De Dios."

That one is on page 118.

http://oi58.tinypic.com/6pnu42.jpg

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La villa de Nombre de Dios was indeed part of Zacatecas, practically the "frontier" and heavily militarized (you can tell by the amount of captains that lived there) today is in the borderline of Durango facing Zac. I've had research the oldest film for this place which its until today my most difficult challenge, for anyone who venture to it I have to say that there are many pages in between that were not indexed (since is in very poor conditions and the pictures taken where really bad) and thus. although some records in the FamilySearch index point to the film, this isn't by any means the whole contents of it.

One of my oldest ancestors (Agustin Quiralte) established there and like him there were some other people with family relations in Zacatecas, I have a list of some surnames that appear in the first film, some are quite familiar if you have done some genealogy in Zac. One of the most prominent families were the Flores y Rivera same that owned (and probably constructed) the

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Juan De Angon - One of First Pobladores of Valparariso, Zacatecas, Mexico

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I am chatting with a historian of Zacatecas, Mexico and he lives over there.

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Published by MADERA_32 – Mon, 2015-03-30 19:51 | Permalink

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He is also telling me that he has the padron of Valparaiso year 1648. There were 60 people, 12 were "espanoles" the rest "indios and castas."

He says that "Angon" is one of the 12 of the "espanoles." I asked him for a copy of the padron of 1648 and he says he will send it to me.

Down loadable Passenger Catalogs to the Indies during the XVI, XVII y XVIII Centuries.

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These Catalogs basically indexes of everyone that got registered to travel to the new world and are comprised of various volumes. Below are links to three sites that have these catalogs.

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Published by RJQ – Sat, 2015-03-28 08:52 | Permalink

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Nice findings, these information is also on the PARES web site, probably the most challenging part of the website is to filter accurately without missing possible matches, on the pdf you have just passengers and in an alphabetical order, comes in handy here and there.

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Katy, I was on the mexicangenealogy.info link last night and just copied and pasted the link it works. So there must have been some other problem preventing you from connecting.

Never give up

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I have been stuck for years on finding the parents of my 4th great grandfather Jose Ysidro Hurtado.

upload
Josefa Petronila De Jesus Hurtado Baptism.jpg (710.35 KB)

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Published by blankcast75 – Sun, 2015-03-29 07:16 | Permalink

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That's fantastic!!! Congrats!
Thanks for sharing. It gives me hope!
Sandra

Published by superhorrible – Mon, 2015-03-23 19:01 | Permalink

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What a great story. Congrats!!!

That is why..We love genealogy...sometimes there is some luck.

MUCHAS FELICIDADES DESDE SEATTLE

susana

Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Mon, 2015-03-23 16:36 | Permalink

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Congratulations!!!!!!

Time to Celebrate !!!!!!!!!

Perseverance is rewarded.

Rick A Ricci

Victoriano Huerta's Genealogy - Marquez de los Olivos

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I have been working for some time on documenting the ancestors and descendants of Victoriano Huerta.

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Published by A_Tejano – Mon, 2010-01-25 21:47 | Permalink

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Arturo,
I believe I had written to you a few months ago requesting to see the family tree you have of Victoriano Huerta so far. Although his cousins seem to be missing, and that is the key for me as I believe my g-g-grandmother was related to him however it is hard to show since I have yet to find any records for her.

Published by Eduardo_H_Seoane – Sat, 2009-11-14 23:47 | Permalink

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Arturo,

Sorry the films start in 1718 they where probably married before that date since one of there children is being married in 1832.

In FamilySearch there is a marriage of Phelipe Marques to JNA. JETRUDIS DE LUNA
Marriage: 12 MAY 1727 San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico
Film: 0443781 Batch: M604651 years 1720 - 1751

This might be a second spouse so I would look at the marriage record it will indicate if he was previously married. If his first wife did pass away he would have remarried quickly since he had young children at home.

Saludos desde Lago Salado

Eduardo H Seoane

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Eduardo:

Thank you for your help. There are actually records for Colotlan dating back to the 1660s but they were not filmed by the LDS Church and now the priest in Colotlan won't let people look at them. Select records were transcribed by Esteban Valdes but the marriage in question is not in there. I was hoping it might show up in neighboring Tlaltenango, which was the main market town of the area...

As with Miguel Hidalgo, most history books have erroneous information on Victoriano Huerta's birthdate and sometimes even his parents' names. I got into an editing war on Wikipedia over it that didn't end even after I posted his baptism certificate which was even annotated for when the record transcription was sent to Mexico City...

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Hi Arturo, where is it possible to look at these transcriptions or non filmed information?

It would be of great help.

-Daniel

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Daniel:

The transcriptions done by Don Esteban Valdes of the unfilmed Colotlan records can be found in his book: Historia de Totatiche, Tomo I...

http://www.worldcat.org/oclc/70880777

Is there a particular family that you are interested in researching?

I may actually have an extra copy or two of the book in Washington.

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I have both and they're both hard to use. So I only rarely use
them...I have to determine, I'm going to spend a loooooong time
entering my data. Marge:)

On Nov 16, 2009, at 11:45 AM, Esperanza Pallana wrote:

Hello,
I am comparing the two Mac genealogy software programs, Heredis and
Reunion.
Does anyone have any feedback/preferences on these products?
-Esperanza Pallana

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Esperanza I have MacFamilyTree and that is a very hard program to
use(for me). Wish you luck.

Daniel Esparza
On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Esperanza Pallana wrote:

> Hello,
> I am comparing the two Mac genealogy software programs, Heredis and
> Reunion.
> Does anyone have any feedback/preferences on these products?
> -Esperanza Pallana
>
>

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I have MacFamily Tree as well...hard to use. My favorite (before I
got a MAC) was Family Tree and the free download from the LDS but
can't use them on my MAC. Marge:)

On Nov 16, 2009, at 1:52 PM, Daniel wrote:

Esperanza I have MacFamilyTree and that is a very hard program to
use(for me). Wish you luck.

Daniel Esparza
On Nov 16, 2009, at 9:45 AM, Esperanza Pallana wrote:

> Hello,
> I am comparing the two Mac genealogy software programs, Heredis and
> Reunion.
> Does anyone have any feedback/preferences on these products?
> -Esperanza Pallana
>
>

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I have a Mac and have always used Reunion; I am very happy with it
and it seems very intuitive. They make regular improvements to their
product.

Pam

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how can one get access to those record pre-1718. i want to see if i go past brick walls on some parts of my family tree

Published by Eduardo_H_Seoane – Sat, 2009-11-14 23:29 | Permalink

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Arturo,

I was hoping that someone else would add additional information to your posting.
The following individual might be another daughter of Phelipe and Francisca (her brother was married in this town and another brother had at least one child there):

Ana De Sn. Joachin Marques Sanches
Christened: 25 October 1722 San Luis,Colotlan,Jalisco,Mexico
Father: Phelipe Marques
Mother: Franca. Xaviela Sanches
Film:0443671 Batch: C602861 years 1718 - 1743

I was curious if she had her grandparents listed on her christening record so I took a peak; she does not. pg 94 if I recall. I can send you a copy if you like. You might want to look at the Marriage Batch number for the same locality.

I would be looking for the marriage, christening of children, and possibly his and her christening (depending on findings) in: San Luis,Colotlan,Jalisco,Mexico

good luck!

Saludos desde Lago Salado

Eduardo H Seoane

Published by Eduardo_H_Seoane – Wed, 2009-11-11 12:08 | Permalink

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Joseph Marques De Los Olibos se caso con Monica Josepha Rosales
en San Luis, Colotlan, Jalisco, Mexico, entre 1720-1751
numero de rollo 0443781, Numero de Batch M604651

La base de datos no tenia la fecha del matrimonio y no eh visto el original

Published by Eduardo_H_Seoane – Wed, 2009-11-11 11:57 | Permalink

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Arturo,

No se si esta persona es pariente suyo pero parece que si.

Ana Josepha Ysidora Marques Sanches

Bautizada en San Luis,Colotlan,Jalisco,Mexico el 2 Enero 1760

Numero de pelicula: 0443673, Numero de Batch C602863

Padre: Xavier Marques de los Olivos
Madre: Maria Sanches

(no vi la pelicula)

i just got the results for my aunt and grandpa's dna tests from ancestry

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i felt like sharing this since it could give me a better idea how some of my mom's matches are related to her in the cases where i don't know how they fit in.

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Published by longsjourney – Wed, 2015-03-25 09:50 | Permalink

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Katy what haplogroup were they?
Linda in Olympia

Published by katy_brecht_quesada – Wed, 2015-03-25 10:23 | Permalink

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i don't know, i just got their autosomal dna tested not their y or mt dna since those tests are too expensive and aren't offered by ancestry.

i find it odd that ancestry estimated his dna as being 12% middle eastern, while it gave my mom 4% and her sister(my aunt) 3%.

Published by Armando – Wed, 2015-03-25 20:40 | Permalink

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Other than the total East Asian % Native American the only times that the amounts between siblings will consistently be within 1-5% are when the Gedmatch calculators are used or the Dodecad Wrapper is used.

Siblings share 50% of the DNA. Due to recombination each child gets a random 50% of one parent and a random 50% of the other parents DNA. Only 25% of each parents overlaps in siblings. http://www.isogg.org/wiki/Autosomal_DNA_statistics

That is why testing as many close relatives as possible is best.

Published by R.A.Ricci (not verified) – Wed, 2015-03-25 21:36 | Permalink

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Dear Armando,

What tests do you recommend? It's about time that I get it done.

Thanks,
Rick A Ricci

Published by Armando – Wed, 2015-03-25 22:02 | Permalink

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Hello Rick,

It depends on what you are looking for.

To find cousins you should get the autosomal tests at all of the companies - the FTDNA Family Finder, 23andme, and Ancestry.com tests.

To get the best ethnic breakdown 23andme. 2nd best is Ancestry.com

For the direct paternal line an FTDNA Y-DNA37 marker test minimum. 67 marker is even better.

For the maternal line the Full Sequence mtDNA although an mtDNAplus can be enough if all you want to know if the maternal line is Native American, European, or other.

Published by katy_brecht_quesada – Sat, 2015-03-28 20:53 | Permalink

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and you can upload the raw dna data to gedmatch and play with some of their tools(i wouldn't recommend the are your parents related tool or the eye color one since they aren't that accurate)

Help please

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You all have been so helpful in the past I hate to ask for a favor. I am having trouble with this Marriage Dispensation. I am trying to locate Francisco Hurtado Jimenez’ parents names.

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Published by RJQ – Thu, 2015-03-26 16:08 | Permalink

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The Dispensa only mention his mothers name and the relation tree between the groom and the bride, he is at that point also a widower, the tree mentioned is as follow:

1 Doña Maria Anna de Anda (sister of) Juan de Anda Altamirano

2 Doña Micaela de Pedroza (cousin of) Geronimo de Anda

3 Francisco Hurtado Ximenes (second cousin of) Lucas de Anda

4 -------------------------------------------- Anna Agustina de Anda (third niece of the groom)

looking quickly on familysearch for the name of the mother plus the Hurtado last names it shows this result:

https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:NVRT-YLQ

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RJ, thank you for your assistance. This is going to take me sometime to figure out. I did have that connection for Francisco Hurtado Ximenes' parents but I was hoping the dispensation gave the father's name so I could confirm it. I truly appreciate your time.

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Well, the search results at familysearch are actually three (with the mothers name plus the Hurtado name); Francisco Hurtado Anda, Maria Cornelia Huratado Anda and Mariana Hurtado Pedroza, the three records shows the fathers as Joseph Hurtado, that for me would be a good amount of data to corroborate the fathers name, who in turn may be Hurtado Ximenes and thus his son name himself with both surnames. If you add the fact that the mothers name shows no just Pedroza but De Anda in those records I would say that's a positive identification in comparison with the Dispensa, where clearly states she is from De Anda and Pedroza family. Hope it helps a little.

Forgot to tell you, you should check (although you probably did already) Francisco first marriage which seems to be this one: Francisco Urtado and Ana Gutierres de Mendoza, if you find the corresponding marriage information besides the marriage record (informacion matrimonial on familysearch) would probably give you the names of the

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Thanks again RJ. I have all of those and thanks. By you telling me he was a widower I was able to find the record for his first marriage. It is indeed Ana Gutierres de Mendoza and it lists his parents as Joseph Hurtado and Micaela de Pedroza. I also found the marriage information for his parents Joseph and Micaela and when reading it says "no conosidos" which I believe means they don't know who his parents are.
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-18567-41563-8?cc=1874591&wc=…

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Yes, unfortunately as you may know already most widower/widow records for marriage lack the parents name, but in the other hand that Dispensa gave you a least the tree for the "De Anda" family. By the way, the witnesses are: Francisco Alvares Tostado, Christobal Ramires de Hermosillo and Luis Lopez Ramires.

Indeed the "no conocidos" means they did not know the parents for your last record, now the reasons for that could be many, therefore it many not necessarily be a dead end yet, but could go either way.

Interesting how all this people those records in this time period are using two surnames, I've hardly seen that on my own genealogy, always something to learn. Good luck with your researches.

Research Digest, Vol 110, Issue 11

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Hi Ronald,
I do have the Collection of books of Retoños De España... and I will be more than happy to check for you, but I am currently away from home and won't be back for more than a week.

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Published by chilerey54 – Wed, 2015-03-25 23:30 | Permalink

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Thank you
Ronnie

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I also have the collection and I have already verified that the information
exists as it was given to Ronnie but in Tomo VI vol. 1 page 18 which is the
section on the Márquez family. It also exists in Tomo IV vol. 2 page 511 in
the section on the González Rubio family. I had replied at
http://www.nuestrosranchos.org/es/node/22836

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 1:19 AM, Ronald Reynoso wrote:

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> > Subject: Re: [Nuestros Ranchos] Research Digest, Vol 110, Issue 11
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> > Hi Ronald,
> > I do have the Collection of books of Retoños De España... and I will be
> more than happy to check for you, but I am currently away from home and
> won't be back for more than a week. If no one else helps you by then and
> you don't mind waiting for me I will send you the info. then.
> >
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> > Silvia I Sandoval
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Tomas Gonzalez de Hermosillo

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Hola Members , I have looking for Tomas Gonzalez de Hermosillo who married Nicolasa Marquez (daughter of Diego Marquez de Los Olivos and Maria de La Cruz Martin del Campo)
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Published by Armando – Wed, 2015-03-25 20:08 | Permalink

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Tomo VI vol. 1 page 18 has the information in the section on the Márquez family. Tomo IV vol. 2 page 511 in the section on the González Rubio family also has that information.

Catalina Aceves was the daughter of Juan de Aceves and Beatriz González de Hermosillo and Beatriz was the daughter of Juan González de Hermosillo and María Muñoz.

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