Ruiz de Esparza

Thanks Bill for your words, well both of my Esparza lines are currently Francisco Esparsa (estimated birth 1828) and my other line is Matiana Esparsa (Est. birth 1832). My grandfather actually believes these two people are first cousins since all of our "families" would intermarry within our family and I too believe this. Anything is possible. I mean they both came from the same place and same time and lived in the same place which is Huanusco in Zacatecas. In the same ranch. I mean what are the odds. I think they came from Calvillo in Ags. Or near Ags city. Francisco Esparsa married Maria de la Luz AVILA. And for Matiana, she married Pablo Vasquez; they are the parents of one the six original founders of Hacienda La Luz. (Long story short the Zacatecaian Gov't gave money to Mariano Camino my 3rd grt grandfather to start up a Hacienda in Huanusco which he named La Hacienda de La Luz de Nuestra Senora Guadalupe ("La Luz") for short. The founders are Mariano Camino, Ambrosio Garcia, Leandro Vasquez, Rumauldo Lizalde, Mateo Velasco and Estevan Lopez. I descend from all of these gentlemen. Everyone on that ranch descends from most of these men since they intermarried. Thanks Bill. Hope you can help me on my Esparza quest.

Ancestors from Chinampas, Jalisco

Hello, my name is Elena Becerra Woodard. My research shows that my ancestors from my grandmother on my mother’s side were in the Chinampas, Jalisco area for at least 250 years, before migrating to the US in 1898, settling in Colton, CA.

I am a direct descendent of the following people from Chinampas:
My grandmother: Felipa Canales (1890 – 1981)
Her parents: Simon Canales (1858 – 1955) m. Epimenia Contreras (1861 – 1902)
Juan Andres Canales (b. 1823) m. Maria Casilda Cuellar (b. 1829)
Jose Sixto Cuellar (b. abt 1780) m. Maria Felipa Sanchez (b. abt 1780)
Miguel Sanchez (b. abt 1760) m. Gregoria de Lira (b. abt 1760)
Antonio Atanacio Basilio Cuellar (b. 1765) m. Ana Maria Collazo (b. 1759)
Juan Cristomo Collaso (b. 1736) m. Maria Celedonia Delgado ( b. 1730)
Juan Delgado (b. 1703) m. Maria Ysabel de Peres y Gutierres (b. 1704)
Lorenzo Delgado (b. 1676) m. Juana de la Cruz (1675)
Lazaro Delgado ( b. 1655) m. Nicolasa de la Cruz (1650 – 1722)
Lucas de Ramirez Delgado (b. 1629) m. Maria Magdalena Hernandez (b. 1634)
Jose Miguel Cuellar ( b. abt 1740) m. Maria Josefa Martinez (b. abt 1740)
Maximo Canales (b. 1794) m. Josefa Gomez (b. 1797)
Ygnacio Gomez (b. abt 1770) m. Maria Matiana Barrientos (b. 1768)
Jose Miguel Canales (b. abt 1770) m. Paula Elena Perez (b. abt 1770)
Franciso Perez ( b.abt 1750) m. Petra Flores (b. abt 1750)
Jose Manuel Guadalupe Canales (b. abt 1750) m. Maria Antonia Garcia (b. abt 1750)
Gregoria Contreras (b. abt 1830) m. Timotea Ibarra (abt. 1820)

Several of my family lines in the Chinampas, Jalisco area intermarried with Terrones.

My father’s family are Becerras who lived in the Tepic, Nayarit area for at least 150 years before migrating to the US and settling in San Bernardino, CA.

General Digest, Vol 108, Issue 9

Can this presentation be watched via the Internet ? I'm not clear on how it works.

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Petronila de Moctezuma

Has anyone further researched Petronila and found documents on her true identity?

This is what I have been able to put together from the internet, this is a assumption of her origins.

1. Axayacatl (b. 1469; d. 1492)
Sp. UNKOWN

2. 9th Aztec Emperor Moctezuma Xocoyotzin (b. 1480; d. 1520)
Sp. Tzihuacxochitzin

3. Princess Marina Leonor Moctezuma (b. 1505; d. 1562)
Sp. Conquistador Cristóbal de Valderrama (b. 1501; d. 1562)

4. Leonor Valderrama de Moctezuma (b. 1532)
Sp. Diego Arias de Sotelo

5. Princess Petronila de Moctezuma (b. 1552)
Sp. Martín Navarro de Gabay

I would appreciate any thoughts or comments.

FW: CONFERENCIA BINACIONAL

From: Miguel Muñoz Borrego [mailto:miguel.munoz15@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2015 12:38 PM
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Subject: CONFERENCIA BINACIONAL

De: Miguel Muñoz Borrego
Fecha: 21 de enero de 2015, 16:55
Asunto: CONFERENCIA BINACIONAL
Para: enclick@aim.com

El Archivo General del Estado está muy agradecido con quienes viven en USA y tienen raíces hispanas pues son quienes han estimulado constantemente a nuestro Archivo General a sostener y mejorar cada día nuestro servicios de Genealogía y Paleografía, ya sea personalmente, por teléfono o por correo electrónico.

Son quienes, entre otros, han sostenido por 10 años la organización de la CONFERENCIA BINACIONAL DE HISTORIA, especializada en genealogía y que año con año es organizada por nuestro Archivo General y donde se tratan numerosos temas de genealogía por expertos.

Este año trataremos temas muy interesantes, les menciono sólo dos, Una aportación sobre Pancho Villa y otro sobre la cocina mexicana de nuestra región..

Sobre este segundo tema, el gobierno de nuestro Estado de Coahuila ha editado un espléndido libro que se rifará entre los asistentes.

Se le extiende una cordial invitación a asistir a esta CONFERENCIA que se realizará la tarde del viernes 13 de Marzo de 2015 y el sábado 14. Finalizando esa noche con una conferencia magistral del director del Archivo General del Estado de Tamaulipas, Carlos Rugiero Cazares con quien al final de la conferencia podrán platicar y recibir informes sobre el espléndido Archivo Estatal que dirige en CD. Victoria, Tam., capital del Edo. de Tamaulipas.

Si usted pertenece a una sociedad de genealogía, de historia o de cultura, no dude en proponer enviar una representación de su organización. Su asistencia será para nosotros un elemento extra de agradecimiento por su apoyo en todos estos años. Le aseguramos que en esta reunión encontrará parientes.

Oportunamente enviaremos datos prácticos.

Su distinguida presencia honrará debidamente esta CONFERENCIA BINACIONAL.

Atentamente

Miguel Ángel Muñoz Borrego.

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Saltillo, Coahuila, Mexico.

Alvarez/Campos Family

Thank you so much for this info! I have been stuck for years with this couple.
I have never been able to find either of their parents and you have solved this
for me. I am so very grateful. Will I be able to find this same info of the
grandparents on familysearch? I live in Ohio and all our films must be ordered
from one of the branches of the LDS Church. Senon Paulino would be my fathers'
4th great grandfather who married a Maria Campos. Senon or Paulino, as some of
his records call him,also had a son, named Rafael Alvarez, married to Viviana
Alva Valensuela. I have never been able to find his documents for his birth or
christening. This couple had a son, Melecio or Melecio Alvarez who would have
been my grandfather and my fathers father. My father, Amador Alvarez,was the
son of Melecio Alvarez and Sara Campos Mota. I have not been able to find birth
or christening record or death records for Melecio or Rafael. Would you be able
to search for these names for me? I
f not it is alright. Perhaps you could tell me where I might be able to search
for them. Thanks again, you have cracked the mystery of Jose Alvarez and Ana or
Francisca Campos for me!!

Warm regards,
Carol (Campos) Lester
---- gpf13@aol.com wrote:
> Carol
>
> Is this couple Jose Maria Alvarez and Maria Francisca Campos? If so, they were
married 25 Aug 1836 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, ZAC (image #558 in
marriages for 1821-40). This names their parents, and notes there was a
dispensation for second degree consanguinity. They might be first cousins!
>
> I have seen cases where the first names of the women vary a bit: Ana Francisca
could be the same as Maria Francisca; she could have been known as Maria, Ana,
or Francisca in various records. Since the birth records name the grandparents,
this would tend to prove that she used various names
>
> If this is true, which I suspect it might be, then there is a fair amount of
information in the Tlaltgenango de Sanchez Roman and Momax, Zacatecas records.
>
> Jose and his bride were actually first cousins (they are both grandchildren of
Antonio Campos and Eufracia Castaneda.
>
> Briefly, the records I found are:
>
> Marriage record for Jose Maria Alvarez (s/o Juan de Dios Alvarez and Maria
Rafaela Campos) and Maria Francisca Campos (d/o Francisco Campos and Ana Maria
Cornejo), 25 Aug 1836, Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman
>
> I found baptismal records for three children of theirs:
> (1) Lorenso Hipolito y Caciano, chr 10 Aug 1837, Momax, ZAC (image 176);
grandparents are as listed in his parents marriage record
> (2) Pedro, died within about 1 year, Momax
> (3) Senon Paulino de Sta Agripina, chr 23 Jun 1839, Momax
>
> Ana Maria Alvarez d/o Juan de Dios Alvarez and Maria Rafaela Campos chr 7 May
1808, Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman. Grandparents: Antonio Alvarez/Prudencia Rita
Serrano and Anton/Campos/Eufracia Castaneda. (film for 1800-1809 image 500)
>
> Maria Francisca Campos was chr 28 Mar 1814, Momax (film 1811-14, image 44),
d/o Francisco Campos and Anna Cornejo; grandparents, Antonio Campos/Eufracia
Castaneda and Rafael Cornejo/Rita Carlos
>
> This is not all the information available for these families, but it is enough
to give you the basic relationships.
>
> The fact that Jose and his bride are first cousins is unusual, as this is not
something that a dispensation is commonly given for!
>
> I used the old family search website for the indexes, and then went to the
digitized films for the Zacatecas towns on the new website. Since the records
for these towns appear pretty good, you may be able to go back farther.
>
> George Fulton
> Pleasanton, CA

FTDNA

Hello Armando, I am contemplating the Y-DNA, however, I have a
question regarding the Y-DNA, according of what I have read on
the subject, is that through the Y-DNA, it will discover a paternal
ancestor, in my case the surname de Leon. I am willing to invest the
necessary funds, if the test will provide me with the information
for me to break through the wall, I have encountered while researching my grandfather Bartolo de Leon. I have been very successful with my maternal
ancestry surnames of Garcia, Reyes,Bocanegra, Macias, Mendoza, Tiscareno
Ruiz
de Esparza, de Udabe, etc of Aguascalientes, the only results I have
encountered of the de Leon surname is from various administrators of
ANCESTRYDNA, however, so far the claim is that the MATCH is their wives,
husbands, etc and that is as far as it goes. I wonder if by having the
Y-DNA test done, I would enhance my research. Thanks, Arturo

Another Attempt at Upgrading Site

We will be making another attempt at upgrading the software on the website tonight Monday January 19, 2015. The website will be down for a few hours around 9 pm Eastern (New York) time.

Estaremos intentando de nuevo actualizar el software del sitio esta noche lunes 19 de enero, 2015. El sitio se bajara por un unas cuantas horas alrededor de las 9 de la noche tiempo Eastern (Nueva York).

Research Digest, Vol 107, Issue 15

Judios en Los altos I do believe that there is a high percentage of
shepardic lineage in Los altos de Jalisco. According to diario judio. look
at certain customs like marriages between relatives was common in this area
and many others that I won't mention.
El dic 19, 2014 9:27 p.m.,
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> From: Erlinda Castanon-Long
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> Spaniards. I'm sure down the road they married Mestiso, Yndios and Mulatos
> but for many years they stayed pure Espanol. I think Daniel said he goes
> back to 1 Espanol line 17 times.Linda in Olympia, Wa
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
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> Hola Alonso ,como estas ?? Perdoname? como escribo el espanol soy de
> California pero mis raices son de Los altos. Tuve la oportunidad a conocer
> un pariente? Rogelio Loza Reynoso que era de San Jose de Los Reynoso.
> hablamos un bien rato. Una de la preguntas? fue, que paso con los Mulatos
> de la region de los Altos ? Como dijiste en tu e-mail hubo una gran
> cantidad de Mulatos. Yo tambien con los anos a visto muchos registrados .
> La opinion de mi primo ,que piensa que muchos Mulatos durante de los
> principios de la Independencia de Mexico se fueron a las cuidades a pelear?
> o vivir. En mi caso de mis ante pasados mulatos se mezclaron.
> Que opinas
> Ronnie
>
> > To: general@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> > From: reynosoalfonso@hotmail.com
> > Date: Wed, 17 Dec 2014 12:59:44 -0800
> > Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Los alte?os y los mexicanos, ?sueco-alemanes?
> >
> > Alfonso Reynoso R?bago
> >
> > Ra?l:
> >
> > A m? tambi?n me cuesta mucho trabajo creer lo que dices respecto a los
> porcentajes de tu ascendencia y la de los mexicanos con relaci?n a ser
> sueco-alemanes. La empresa que hizo el estudio de tu ADN, ?no te jug? una
> vacilada, fue una tomadura de pelo? Basta con que examines los archivos
> parroquiales (est?n todos en FamilySearch.org) durante la colonia y te
> dar?s cuenta que m?s de la mitad de la poblaci?n de los ni?os bautizados,
> los hombres y mujeres casados y los registros de defunciones en las
> parroquias de Los Altos de Jalisco son o indios o mulatos o mestizos o de
> otras castas. La poblaci?n espa?ola de Los Altos de Jalisco hasta la
> Independencia de M?xico no lleg? a ser mayor?a en ninguna comunidad,
> excepci?n hecha de Tepatitl?n donde llegaron a ser un poquito m?s de la
> mitad espa?oles al final de la ?poca de la colonia. La sangre india y la
> sangre mulata y de otras castas forma parte de la sangre de los alte?os
> actuales. Los registros de ADN de los a
> >? lte?os
> >? que conozco y sobre todo el estudio atento de los registros
> parroquiales, revelan eso. Lo cual no impide que haya mujeres muy bonitas y
> hombres guapos (desde el punto de vista europeo) en los Altos.
> >
> > Alguien me dijo (un cronista de una ciudad alte?a) que los resultados de
> su ADN mostraron que era 100% jud?o. Que me disculpe el honorable cronista,
> pero seguramente ni el santo Rey David obtendr?a esos datos si se hubiera
> hecho un estudios de su ADN. Por favor... aqu? no se trata de vaciladas.
> Nuestro primer compromiso es con la verdad. Aunque sea ?sta inalcanzable,
> luchemos por acercarnos a ella y guardemos las vaciladas para otros lugares.
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How to write source on Lope Ruiz de Esparza's document.

I'm getting ready to add the information on Lope Ruiz de Esparza found in the book Catalago de Pasajeros a Indias Volumen VII. While browsing other messages, I found out that the original document was found and made available by Mr. Arturo Ramos (thank you so much) in this group.

I hope somebody who has used this document can help me. I was able to download it from nuestros ranchos, but how do I reference it? Where exactly was it found? Are these books (the original contrataciones) available online? While comparing both documents, I notice that on the Catalogo they transcribe Lope's boss's last name as Manleon and Maleon, while in the original document it looks like Mauleon. I googled both spellings and it looks like Mauleon is the right spelling. Anyways, any help on how to source this document will be greatly appreciated.

Steve in NC

Need Help with: San Cristóbal de la Barranca, Jalisco, Mexico

Would like to briefly chat with those of you researching: San Cristóbal de
la Barranca, Jalisco, Mexico. Would like to know where a person can get a
current phone directory, either online or in paper form (preferred). Would
also like to ask another question or two. Your help would be greatly
appreciated (joseph@nuestrosranchos.org)

Necesito hablar con uno de ustedes hacienda la buscadera en: San Cristóbal
de la Barranca, Jalisco, Mexico. Quisera saber donde una persona puede
hallar un directorio del telefono, puede ser del internet o prefero un
libro. Tengo otra pregunta o dos tambien. Seria agradecido con su ayuda
(joseph@nuestrosranchos.org)

Joseph

Joseph Puentes

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Steven,

Email me at nggssocal@nuevagalicia.org, and I'll send you the informational flyer.

Rosalinda

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Subject: Digest Footer

Escrituras/Tierras (1700 - 1715) Microfilm No. 169056

First time to view this microfilm and I was quickly reading through it because I want to find what I am looking for. But as I did speed reading I see that this one is starts out about:

Year 1700:
Villa Santa Maria De Los Lagos
Villa Aguascalientes
Hacienda San Nicolas - Dueno Capitan Don Antonio De Meza y avenduro vecino de la ciudad cabrador en el valle del caysillo

Another Escritura:

Capitan Miguel Rodriguez Portugal, Alcalde Provincial De La Santa Hermandad De Reino De La Nueva Galicia por su vezino en la juridiccion de la Villa de Santa Maria De Los Lagos

Licencial Antonio Rodriguez Gomez - General De La Hacienda De La Sienega de Mata

Then it goes to San Luis Potosi:

Capitan Pedro de Herrera Vecino y Minero dueno de La Hacienda Del Valle De San Pedro
The escrituras had sellos:

"Sello Segundo, Seis Reales Anos De Mil Y Siescientos y Ochenta Y Tres Y Ochenta Y Cuatro (1683 - 1684)

"Sello Tercero, Un Real Anos De Mil y Siescientos y Ochenta y Tres y Ochenta Cuatro (1683 - 1684)

Nicknames

Hi! Can anyone tell me if the name "Petra" is a nickname for something else? I just received a treasure box of genealogy research from a relative who has passed. I have found baptismal and marriage information for Petra's siblings and parents but I would not have known about her, had I not inherited these notes. My next approach is maybe this is a nickname.The females, other than my great grandmother, are: Narcisa, Paz, Victoriana, Concepcion and Juana.
Thank you for your help.

Microfilm Number 169026 (Testamentos 1659-1843) Jalisco/Aguascalientes

I started to pick up on going through the testament microfilm I had gone through. I was seeing “Hacienda De Tequesquite” year 1844. Saw this list of what looks like salaries of people:

http://oi57.tinypic.com/epiplh.jpg

Then I also saw mentioned “Estancia de San Antonio” year 1650 and the signer or writer seems to be Antonio De Medina Orosco

I also saw “En este Diego Villa De La Purificacion” year 1656:

http://oi59.tinypic.com/11kw4qo.jpg

Can someone tell me what it is saying about “de la madera” in these:

http://oi61.tinypic.com/2zxmczc.jpg

http://oi61.tinypic.com/316l1ev.jpg

http://oi59.tinypic.com/15eaa29.jpg

FW: Gen. Bernardo de Galvez

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Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 7:57 PM
To: jvc4321@aol.com
Subject: Fwd: Gen. Bernardo de Galvez

A new book on Galvez will be published soon. It focuses on the support
received by the United States from Spain.

GÁLVEZ / SPAIN -- OUR FORGOTTEN ALLY IN THE AMERICAN REVOLUTIONARY WAR: A
CONCISE SUMMARY OF SPAIN'S ASSISTANCE,

by Judge Edward F. Butler, Sr.

Without Spanish assistance during the American Revolutionary War, we would
still be under the British flag.

Galvez was always one step ahead of the English:

He drove the English out of the lower Mississippi River by
defeating them at Manchac, Baton Rouge & Natchez.

His Spanish army and militia defeated the English at St.
Louis.

His Spanish army and militia captured the British fort with a
warehouse of weapons, food and supplies at Niles, Michigan.

He led the attacks on Mobile and Pensacola and drove the
British from the Gulf coast.

Spain provided as much if not more financial support as France during the
American Revolutionary War.

Spanish soldiers fought the English in Europe, Central America, South Africa
and India.

On one day the Spanish fleet captured 55 British ships, including 8 war
ships, taking over 2,500 crewmen as prisoners, & seized over 1,500,000
English Pounds value of the cargo on those ships.

For fear of an attack from Spain and France, England kept the bulk of its
army and naval fleet at home, diluting the strength of its forces in North
America.

Spanish merchants supplied the colonists with arms, ammunition and supplies
as early as 1774.

17,000 Spanish troops and sailors fought the English in North America during
the war; many more than those provided by France.

Available in 2015. Watch for it!

Never has a more important book been written that confirms what has been
silent in our American History books. Our students identify closely with
Mexico and now through Judge Butler's scholarly work, they can, as
Americans, be proud of their ancestors important role in the birth of our
beloved nation. Every student of American history can now know "the rest of
the story". Thank you Judge Butler for your passion and commitment to our
history and for making all of us with Spanish sir names proud.

Dr. Maria Hernandez Ferrier, President
Texas A&M University-San Antonio

Wonderful book! You have done a great, great service here. Thank you!

Lila Guzman, Ph.D., is the award-winning author of Lorenzo
and the Pirate (Blooming Tree Press), the 4th novel in the Lorenzo series
about Spanish participation in the American Revolution.

With this book, Judge Ed Butler tells “the rest of the story” that most
people never knew about the American Revolution.

Judge Robert H. Thonhoff, author, The Texas Connection With
the American Revolution.

The research and explanation provided in this book should leave no doubt in
anyone's mind as to the substantial aid, and the vast extent of that aid,
provided by Spain to the American colonists before and during the American
Revolution. A must read.

Joseph D. Perez, Governor General, Order of the Granaderos y
Damas de Galvez.

[S]hould be on the shelf of every school library.

and

There are many fine books of recent publication out on General Bernardo de
Gálvez, but, Gálvez/ Spain Our Forgotten Ally in the American Revolutionary
War is a tidy, quick-read, quick-reference book, handy to have on hand to
convince any sincere truth seeker, that in fact, the Spanish did play an
important, very major role in winning the American Revolution.

Mimi Lozano,
educator and activist for
Hispanic rights who co-founded the
Society of Hispanic Historical and Ancestral Research, and is
the editor and publisher of Somos Primos, an online monthly
publication dedicated to Hispanic heritage. She was named the 2006 Woman of
the Year by the
Costa Mesa, California Assembly.

This book is the first book written on the involvement of Spain in the
American Revolution that ties in all the intricate ingredients necessary to
understand the full scope of the War. It is superbly written and documented
and will no doubt find its way beside other notable authors such as Chavez,
Loya, Jackson and Chipman to mention a few. If there were one book that
should be listed as required reading for history majors, Galvez/ Spain - Our
Forgotten Ally In The American Revolutionary Way: A Concise Summary Of
Spain's Assistance should be that book.

Jack V. Cowan, Founder and President of The Texas Connection
To the American Revolution.

FW: The Villa of Alburquerq​ue, 1706-1821

From: Angel R. Cervantes [mailto:angelrcervantes@gmail.com]
Sent: Saturday, January 10, 2015 2:02 AM
To: undisclosed-recipients:
Subject: The Villa of Alburquerq​ue, 1706-1821

Hello,

I would like to invite you to attend a lecture on the Villa of Alburquerque, 1706-1821. If you would like to learn more about the history of Albuquerque, NM and how it helps in the research of family history then this presentation is for you. There will be a presentation on the subject on January 16, at 3:30 PM, through the University of New Mexico Continuing Education program.

Here is a link to sign up for the presentation:

http://newmexico.augusoft.net/index.cfm?method=ClassInfo.ClassInformati… &int_class_id=67387&utm_source=CE-Story of New Mexico Courses&utm_medium=CE-Class-List&utm_campaign=The Villa of Alburquerque, 1706-1821&_ga=1.182920742.1408384030.1417477806

Best Regards,

Ángel de Cervantes
Project Administrator
New Mexico DNA Project
Iberian Peninsula DNA Project

P.S. For more information contact Angel

Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society Southern California Chapter 2nd Meeting

Erika and I have arranged for the 2nd meeting of the Nueva Galicia Genealogical Society Southern California chapter to be held on January 24, 2015.

The meeting will be held from 11 am until 2 pm. Please email us for a flyer about our next meeting; it includes the day, time, place, and directions.

Unlike the first meeting, we will be using a small group approach to share ideas, genealogy, and information. This will allow for a more inclusive approach so everyone can share, listen, and learn from each other. Please bring your laptops, books, trees, and anything else you would like to share.

Please let us know if you can make it to the meeting by emailing us at nggssocal@nuevagalicia.org ; we would like to provide enough seating for everyone.

Let us know if you have any further questions!

Rosalinda and Erika

Who was Petronila Haro? Quien fue Petronila Haro?

ESPANOL ABAJO

In gathering information on the Haro and Miramontes clan of Tlaltenango for my upcoming book, I have run across a family that I have been unable to connect to the rest of the Haros. The family is that of Petronila Haro, married to Juan de Ugarte in 1626. The family had a son in Tlaltenango (Pedro Ugarte) in 1631, before moving to Hidalgo del Parral sometime before 1641, when they had another son (Tomas de Ugarte).

Does anyone have information on this family? Could this be a sister of Hernando Haro and Lorenzo Haro (who was a sponsor at her wedding)?

ESPANOL

En la recopilacion de infomacion de la familia Haro y Miramontes de Tlaltenango para mi libro, he encontrado una familia que no he podido vincular al resto de los Haros. La familia es la de Petronila Haro, casada con Juan de Ugarte en 1626. La familia procreo un hijo en Tlaltenango (Pedro Ugarte) en 1631 antes de mudarse a Hidalgo del Parral antes de 1641, cuando procrearon otro hijo (Tomas de Ugarte).

Alguien tiene informacion sobre esta familia? Podria ser Petronila una hermana de Hernando Haro y de Lorenzo Haro (quien fue padrino en su boda)?

Padrones (Style/Format - Caste System) year 1779 Mexico

This format of padrones for year 1779 is interesting. It lists all kinds of clases of people under the caste system. Here is one page to show:

http://oi58.tinypic.com/1zwhrtu.jpg

If you want to see the documents. The reference no: MP-VARIOS,38

enter in: http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

Instruccion a Colon: población tierras e islas descubiertas (Columbus?)

I am looking at the PARS archives:

Did search: Tierras

http://www.archivesportaleurope.net/web/guest

And going through the list to see if I can find that kind of info on Nuevo Galicia (Jalisco) or Zacatecas. Seeing all kinds of things.

I came across this one reference number:

PATRONATO,295,N.28

Looking at the first page there is a hand with finger point to the top of the line:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/2vs5lwx.jpg

mtDNA

Hello group,
Are B2 and B4'5 mtDNA the same? My brother tested B2 (with NatGeo) and I B4'5 (with FTDNA).
On FTDNA Familyfinder, some of my matches are referred to as B2 and some as B4'5 in the mtDNA Haplogroups column.
Thank you for your help,
Alice Blake