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Emilie,

There is "Ahualulco" in San Luis Potosí and an "Ahualulco de Mercado" in Jalisco. Never heard of one in Zacatecas Incidentally, this is the first time I hear the name Pilar given to a male, as Pilar is usually a name given to a female.

Bill Figueroa

George, this site is wonderful. I was able to extend a "dead-end" line 3 more generations. For me it worked easiest to just use the "Tipo" button and scroll down to "Testamentos." Sorry to sound too greedy; but my question now is whether there is a way to use the Archivo Historical de Jalisco? Thank you, Deedra Corona

George:
I thikn you discovered something very interesting! Josepha and Ana Macias Saldaña are both my ancestors!; the first married to Jacinto Sandoval Gutiérrez, and the second to Francisco Martel Macias Valadez.
What I'm not so sure is if the Gaspar Macías Valadez is the son of Nicolas and Leonor.
Juan Macías Valadez died July 3, 1681 in Aguascalientes.

Luis Núñez Gornés

El Número que está antes del nombre es el número del acta y el que está después es el número de la página del libro.

Ve a este enlace https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21282-27053-65?cc=1918187…

es la imagen 463 Y puedes ver arriba el número 51 y la segunda acta comienza "al margen número 159 etc. ...."

Esa es el acta que buscas de Marciala Guerrero que murió de 90 años.

Saludos

Jorge Elias
Miami, FL

Hello Nancy,

In the civil records that I have looked at in Lagos de Moreno, Jalisco state
that they are transcriptions of the original records and I deduced that they
also wrote the numbers of the original records in case they needed to be
referred to.

Armando

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:54 PM, wrote:

> I hope someone can help me understand how to find death records.
> For instance, I tried to find a record for Marciala Guerrero in the
> Defunciones Civil Records for Jalisco, Tlajalmulco, 1917-1924. In the
> index where I found her name (image 385) there was #159 before her name
> and #51 after. What do the numbers refer to? I never did find this record.
> Is there some kind of order as to how to find the index? In searching one
> by one, I found several records for children within the same pages, so I
> wondered if this was done for a reason. Thanks.
> Nancy

There are quite a few Galvan in Jalisco and Guanajuato. You should search
these states as well as contiue to search Aguascalientes.

Armando

On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 9:09 AM, wrote:

> I am earnestly looking for information on the Galvan side of my family.
> I've been able to locate Gregorio Galvan b.1787 Ascientos, Aquascalientes,
> married to Juana Rosalia De La Trinidad Sanchez b.1784 and had a son Nestor
> b.1807. My question is, did his parent/s (Gregorio's) migrate from Spain or
> do I just need to start looking else where and where would that be? Any
> kind of help would be appreciated. I just feel like I'm at a road block.

Can you provide us with the URL address of the image of the marriage entry
in question? The URL is in the address bar at the top of the browser and is
unique to that image. Seeing the entry will allow someone here to transcribe
it.

Armando

On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 7:51 PM, wrote:

> I was hoping that someone with more experience in early 1800s marriage log
> translation could help me out with some terminology/abbreviation.
>
> In the margin of the church log it states the name of the couple to be
> married, followed by the abbreviation "esp." in lower case cursive. What
> does that mean?
>
> Also in the body of the text it reads "Para el matrimonio... (then it looks
> like a lower case q with a lower case e or l above it) the next word looks
> like conmq (& again the lower case q has what looks to be an n above it.
>
> Any insight would be greatly appreciated!
>
> Thanks.
> Monica -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
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esp. means espa~ol (spanish); it means that they were either spaniards or from spanish ancestors. the other notes i dont know, maybe if i see the document'
hope this helps!

A. Bugarin

Estimado Enrique,

También desciendo de la familia Aranda. Aunque no estoy seguro si tus Aranda son los mismos, ya que proceden de Cocula y los mios son de Lagos de Moreno, pero existe la posibilidad. La familia era muy numerosa y radicaron a sitios como Guadalajara, Zacatecas, Aguascalientes, Leon, Salvatierra, Guanajuato, Zamora y Morelia. La linea principal quedo en Santa Maria de los Lagos donde casaron con familias muy reconocidas como los Moreno de Ortega, Muñoz de Xérez, González de Ruvalcaba, López de Nava, Reynoso y Rentería, Gómez de Portugal y los Puelles.

Los Aranda mediante la línea Puelles descendían del muy antiguo e ilustre Solar de Puelles. Si puedes remotar tus Aranda a los de Santa María de los Lagos es muy probable que desciendes del Solar de Puelles. Déjame saber si necesitas ayuda en ese tema.

Yo, mi padre y mi abuelo somos desciendientes de dicho solar. Les toca por la línea de mi bisabuela Da. Lucía Serrano-Ornelas. Si mal no recuerdo es
Serrano-Ornelas>>

I just uploaded 36 Juarez individuals on my GEDCOM Tree here at NuestrosRanchos;

Joseph de Leon Family Tree

Hope this helps you

Jose Carlos de Leon

Lorenzo, forgive me but I think you're from the Cayetano Juarez line?  If you are then I have your line back to abt 1730 on Rootsweb.com.  I just updated today.  My file is called Mexico and then put in Cayetano Juarez, then go to pedigree in text form.  You are related to el Capitan Miguel Caldera through his sisters child.
There are a couple of people in Nuestrosranchos who live in Jerez and do genealogy. I'm not sure what they charge but they should be able to find land records for you.  Maybe the group can give you their names, they slip my mind right this second.
My e-mail has changed from longsjourney@hotmail.com to longsjourney@yahoo.com so I lost my files on hotmail when they decided I wasn't me!
hope this is of help to you
Linda Castanon-Long in B.C.

________________________________
From: "lorenzocarrillo94@yahoo.com"
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 3:26 PM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Los Juarez

I descend directly from the Juarez line

Estimado Roberto,
Puedes decirme donde puedo econtrar esta partida? Me interesa por lo Villar Villamil.
Gracias,
Daniel Mendez-Camino

Ruben is absolutely correct Pio was a shortened version of Pioquinto. In English the literal translation is Pio Quinto or Pious the Fifth, after the pope.

Pio is a full name, a version of Pious - latin or Pius

Late Latin name meaning "pious, dutiful". This was the name of twelve popes

I'm pretty sure his full name is Pioquinto Rodriguez.

----- Original Message -----
From: ochoafam4@rocketmail.com
To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
Sent: Monday, October 3, 2011 10:46:21 AM
Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Pio Rodriguez 1811

I found the name Pio Roriguez as a padrino on a birth record in 1811 and I just want to know if that is a full name or is it short for something. Does anyone know?

Thanks,
Monica

Encontré el nombre Pío Roriguez como padrino en un acta de nacimiento en 1811 y sólo quiero saber si ese es el nombre completo o es la abreviatura de algo. ¿Alguien sabe?

Gracias,
Monica

Hi there,

The following transcription is of the marriage of María de Velasco, daughter of Francisca de Temiño y de Juan Ramírez de la Campaña, with Diego López de Gardea.

"Doña Maria de Velasco En la estancia de Sn. Geronimo de Geronimo de Horosco
con Diego Lopez de Gardea en 29 de noviembre de 617 años desposse a doña
Maria de Velasco, hija de doña Franca. Temiño y de
Vellaronsse en 18 de Agosto Juan Ramirez de la Campaña vecinos del Real de Cierra
de 622 años, fueron Padrinos de Pinos, con Diego Lopez de Gardea vecino del pueblo de
Doña Maria de Horosco y Teocaltiche, hijo de Martin Perez de Gardea y de Ma.
Agüero y Juan Arias de Gonzales (con permiso de sus Parrochos) Premissas

Is this the family you have from Tlaltenango? Manuel De Haro Bocanegra b.
1717 in Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman, Zac., [C600896 (1745-1758) film
#0443804] casado con Alejandra De La Torrre Flores, 1721 (Contact
name:*esvimi33@hotmailcom
*)*
*
With the following children:
Jna. Phelipa Aro Flores (1739)
Barbara Getrudis Aro Flores (1739);
Theodora Benita Aro Flores (1741);
Joseph Manuel Flores De Haro (1743);
Maria Clara de Haro (1745);
Josepha Antta. Aro Flores (1749); *
Francisco Xavier Haro Flores, ch. 20 Oct 1751, Tlaltenango de Sanchez Roman,
Zac. [C600896 (1745-1758) film 0443804.];
*Maria Yssabel Aro Flores (1754);
Maria Antonia Aro Flores (1756);
Juana Maria Aro Flores (1758).

Esther Jordan Lopez

On Fri, Sep 30, 2011 at 10:47 AM, wrote:

> Hi everyone i was wondering if anyone knew where the families with the last
> name Guadalajara and chia came from. I found that some of my ancestors at
> the beginning of the 1700's had these last names.
> Also around the same time my

I find most Haro are somehow related, those from Colima to Guadalajara to Tlatenenango and the surrounding areas.
Daniel M

I have looked at all the matrimonial investigations in the city of Aguascalientes through the end of 1726 (I'm making an index; the index for MI's prior to 1720 is posted here at NR), there is no matrimonial investigation for them in that period.

Based on typical age at marriage, they could have been married in the mid-1720s.

They could also have been married later, especially if it is a second marriage for the bride, or possibly elsewhere.

For some reason, not all marriages seem to have been recorded, nor are there matrimonial investigations for all marriages. There are matrimonial investigations for some couples who are known to have children, but no marriage has been found.

George Fulton
Pleasanton, CA

Deedra Corona
Hello Enrique,
I have some Brambilas from Tecolotlan, they later went to Santa Rosalia, Ayutla.
What I found is that it was spelled as Mambrilla, Vamvila, and Ambila. I also have some Velascos in Guachinango--but they are Mulato Libres: doubt any relation; but good luck!

Hola Enrique, revisando el libro que mencionas en dicho capítulo no se nombra a los ancestros de Juana Casillas de Híjar ya que está ese nombre en dicho libro pero entre el capitulo que menciona a los Híjar cuya identidad el autor no ha podido precisar.
El parrafo donde viene el nombre de Juana Casillas de Híjar dice: En 1677 vivían en Tecolotlán las hermanas Petronila Casillas de Híjar viuda de Alonso del Castillo, y Juana, casada con Diego Muñoz Velasco; en 1701, al casar Cristóbal de Velasco, hijo de Juana, ésta ya había muerto, y la citan simplemente como Juana de Híjar.

> To: research@lists.nuestrosranchos.org
> From: enrique_agraz94@hotmail.com
> Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2011 20:17:18 -0700
> Subject: [Nuestros Ranchos] Los Fernández de Híjar y otras familias en Tecolotlán
>
> Hola estimados compañeros de Nuestros Ranchos:
>
> Hace un par de días, resolví uno de los obstáculos, que me impedian continuar la ascendencia de mi antepasada Rosa Feliciana Soltero Velasco, de cuyos padres