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Joseph:



When I went to Seville; I was looking thru the Guad. Archives and was looking at the Durango Census of 1777.  I was not going to be able to be there very long so I asked for a copy [xerox]  which cost an arm, anyway....I found out later that there was a copy in Mexico City also.  So, I could have had a copy from the archives in Mexico.  I do have a copy which I have shared with several people thru the years.  The  handwriting is so beautiful.  It is a wonderful census.  I love census records!!



Mickey

Joseph:



No one can do follow up on Lyman's work.   [Lyman, are you listening?]  Pat yourself on the back [Lyman, not you Joseph!]





Mickey

Hello:



Dr Inglis came to Texas on several grants to put the Nagcodoches [?] Archives in some sort of order.  I met him in Austin and invited him to speak at a small meeting that the genealogical club had in Houston.  He was then asked to speak at several other conference/meeting, etc.  He was a professor who married a Cuenca native and lived in Seville.  It was through Doug that I was able to enter the Archives in Seville and handle some of the Guadalajara  Archives - his wife had worked there at one time and he knew some of the people.  I went in blind....he helped me go through the paper work in order to do research there....pictures/ letters of recommendation; or at least that was what we did at the time....



Dr. Inglis said he could not make a living doing historical research so he had a business in computers at the time.  He was living in Seville.  I have not spoken to him in years.  We had him as a guest at our home;;;;this was in the 1980's when our kids were in college.  It has been a long time.



Mickey

This sounds interesting and since it is a short walk from my house 
and only $25, I will be attending.  I can get a digital recorder and 
record some of it for you in a .WAV file or something similar.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm not sure who lives on the East Coast from the Juarez group but 
in 
> Ranchos there is:
> 
> Arturo Ramos,
> Natalie Coleman,
> Jeannette Soriano
> and me.
> 
> anybody going to this?
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: I'm going to try to get the day off from work but I'm not 
> optimistic. If I can get to the conference I might try to record 
part of 
> the presentation to include in my Podcast series. I'm not sure how 
that 
> would work.
> 
> GENEALOGY
> 
> Hispanic Genealogy Symposium
> Saturday, September 24, 10:30 a.m. to 4 p.m. in the Presidential 
> Conference Center
> In a one-day Hispanic Genealogy Symposium, archivists and 
genealogists 
> will discuss primary sources as well as secondary sources available 
on 
> the Internet to trace family history. Featured speaker Professor 
George 
> Ryskamp of Brigham Young University will join National Archives 
staff 
> archivists Kenneth Heger, Reginald Washington, and Claire Kluskens. 
A 
> fee of $25 is payable by cash or check at the door. Enter through 
the 
> Special Event entrance on Constitution Avenue. Reservations 
required. To 
> register, call 202-208-0781, ext. 254.

Victor,

The only thing I know about [Film Number] Field is what it says in help:

"If a record contains both a batch number and a film number, then use 
only the batch number for your search. Film number searches are valid 
only when there is no batch number."

And as far as [Serial/Sheet Number] I have only ever seen it to be 
[00].  So I don't think that is any help.

Personally, I have never used either field in my searches.

Angie

P.S.  I knew you were jk ... ;-)

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" <raices_regias@y...> 
wrote:
> Angie,
> 
> Thanks.  I was just joking!
> And speaking about research tips, I don't have a clear idea what's the
> purpose of the fields [Serial/Sheet Number] and [Film Number] in the
> IGI search page.  Have you found any use for those?
> 
> I've tried entering data into the [Film Number] field in a similar
> fashion to the [Batch Number] as some recommend field but nothing 
happens!
> 
> Victor 
>

Alicia,

Yes there was some signifiance in that name.  December 1931 was the 
400 year anniversary to the Virgin de Guadalupe.  So I imagine all 
the children in the early part of 1932 were given that name.  Funny 
you should bring this up since about a week ago, I was talking with 
my uncle who was born in 1931 and has the name Guadalupe.  
Anyway...someone else started talking to us and he asked my uncle 
were you born in the year of the Guadalupe's.  My uncle laughed and 
said he was born before.  Later when the man left, I asked my uncle 
what was that all about.  He explained to me that most of the 
children born in 1932 were given the name of Guadalupe in honor of 
the Virgin de Guadalupe.

Hope this helps...
Angie Godina

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Alicia Carrillo <alliecar@p...> wrote:
> Jose Luis,
>  
> I'm sorry, I did not even think of that but as we all now know it's 
very possible and I'm sure you're right there will not be any formal 
church records. As we all know in the early Catholic Church the 
church was very powerful. For that and for many other reasons Mexico 
had the Cristero Rebellion. My mom and aunts tell stories about how 
dominant the parish priests were to the point of naming the children. 
Mom said that when I was born she took me to have me registered 
because my dad was in El Norte and the priest told her that my name 
should be Juana and that it could not be Alicia because my name was 
not the name of a saint. Mom said she told the priest well there is 
now a new saint and it's Alicia and she will be named Alicia.
>  
> Yesterday while perusing records for baptisms I came across about 6 
months worth of baptisms where all the children were named Guadalupe 
both male and female and this was in 1932. It was Jose Guadalupe, 
Maria Guadalupe, Tomas Guadalupe, Mariana Guadalupe and so on. Every 
single record regardless of the other name had Guadalupe and that 
made me remember what mom had told me, that the priests had a lot of 
power in the community.
>  
> Does anyone know if this had any special significance to that 
particular year in the Catholic Church. Could it have been the year 
of the Virgen de Guadalupe?
>  
> Alicia Carrillo...........San Jose, Ca
>

Angie,

Thanks.  I was just joking!
And speaking about research tips, I don't have a clear idea what's the
purpose of the fields [Serial/Sheet Number] and [Film Number] in the
IGI search page.  Have you found any use for those?

I've tried entering data into the [Film Number] field in a similar
fashion to the [Batch Number] as some recommend field but nothing happens!

Victor 

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073" <aajay1073@y...> wrote:
> Victor,
> 
> Thanks for the info!
> 
> After all the information you have given me, your honor was never in 
> question.  :-)
> 
> Thanks Again,
> Angie
> 
> --- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" <raices_regias@y...> 
> wrote:
> > Angie,
> > 
> > I found that the percentage sign does act as a wildcard, at least in
> > some instances.  For example if you enter a last name and want to
> > apply a filter in Events, and/or Year Range and/or State, if you leave
> > the First Name field blank you'll get an arror message.  But doing
> > that same query with "%" in the First Name field you'll get back a
> > recordset.  Have I saved my honor? -- jk -- ;-)  
> > 
> > Victor
> >

I'm registered! Anyone else coming to the conference? Hope to see you 
there.
Natalie in VA

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, Joseph Puentes <makas@n...> wrote:
> 
> 
> I'm not sure who lives on the East Coast from the Juarez group but 
in 
> Ranchos there is:
> 
> Arturo Ramos,
> Natalie Coleman,
> Jeannette Soriano
> and me.
> 
> anybody going to this?
> 
> joseph
> 
> ps: I'm going to try to get the day off from work but I'm not 
> optimistic. If I can get to the conference I might try to record 
part of 
> the presentation to include in my Podcast series. I'm not sure how 
that 
> would work.
> 
> GENEALOGY
> 
> Hispanic Genealogy Symposium
> Saturday, September 24, 10:30 a.m. to 4 p.m. in the Presidential 
> Conference Center
> In a one-day Hispanic Genealogy Symposium, archivists and 
genealogists 
> will discuss primary sources as well as secondary sources available 
on 
> the Internet to trace family history. Featured speaker Professor 
George 
> Ryskamp of Brigham Young University will join National Archives 
staff 
> archivists Kenneth Heger, Reginald Washington, and Claire Kluskens. 
A 
> fee of $25 is payable by cash or check at the door. Enter through 
the 
> Special Event entrance on Constitution Avenue. Reservations 
required. To 
> register, call 202-208-0781, ext. 254.

Victor,

Thanks for the info!

After all the information you have given me, your honor was never in 
question.  :-)

Thanks Again,
Angie

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "v.h.villarreal" <raices_regias@y...> 
wrote:
> Angie,
> 
> I found that the percentage sign does act as a wildcard, at least in
> some instances.  For example if you enter a last name and want to
> apply a filter in Events, and/or Year Range and/or State, if you leave
> the First Name field blank you'll get an arror message.  But doing
> that same query with "%" in the First Name field you'll get back a
> recordset.  Have I saved my honor? -- jk -- ;-)  
> 
> Victor
>

You are welcome, Emily.

Gracious and courteous as always even with little details like this. 
We'd all do good by following your example and act as if there is a
person behind each other's monitor and keyboard!  

Victor


--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Emilie Garcia" <auntyemfaustus@h...>
wrote:
> Victor,
> 
> Thanks for that last tip.  That will save me lots of time if I can
avoid getting that message about "if you only enter a last name, you
must not enter another field"  or something to that effect.
> 
> Emilie Garcia
> Port Orchard, WA  -----
> 

Is anyone here old enough to remember a book published in 1959 
titled "Nine Days to Christmas", by Marie Hall Ets, illustrated by 
Aurora Labastida? Ms. Labastida was awarded the 1960 Caldecott Award 
for her illustrations.
It is about the nine days of posadas in Mexico. One of my favorites.

Natalie Coleman, VA

I just attended the posada on Olvera Street this past Christmas, so the 
tradition is still alive, even in the United States.  I have a 
childhood friend who has started hosting a posada at Christmas time 
among her friends (who are all Chicanos) and their kids.

We used to get together with a very large group of family and friends 
as kids in San Gabriel, California for the Posada every Christmas.  If 
I remember correctly, it was done for several days, because I remember 
families taking turns at hosting.  There were always bags of goodies 
for the kids after the ritual of parading and asking for shelter.. and 
champurrado.

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "Erlinda Castanon-Long" 
<longsjourney@y...> wrote:
> 
> In the early 50's they did a Posada at the Catholic church in our 
> town, Stockton Ca. that had the largest Mexican population.  My 
> brother and cousin were both 5 years old and recruited to be 'Indios" 
> for the Posada which was made up of children only.  We still laugh to 
> this day about how humiliated these macho little boys were to be 
> dressed in white pants and shirt and have an orange crate full of my 
> dish's strapped on their backs.  They went to different 'stations' 
> asking for help but were refused until they got to the church where 
> they asked and were admitted.  Everyone got a bag with an orange and 
> some popcorn after.  Sadly that's all any of us remember about the 
> Posada.  The tradition was discontued by the church by the 60's.... 
> another lost tradition from Old Mexico....
> Linda in WA.

Angie,

I found that the percentage sign does act as a wildcard, at least in
some instances.  For example if you enter a last name and want to
apply a filter in Events, and/or Year Range and/or State, if you leave
the First Name field blank you'll get an arror message.  But doing
that same query with "%" in the First Name field you'll get back a
recordset.  Have I saved my honor? -- jk -- ;-)  

Victor

--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, "aajay1073" <aajay1073@y...> wrote:
> Victor,
> 
> Too funny...when I started working on my family tree in 1998, I did 
> create my own program, which I still use today.  But my program 
> doesn't do all the fancy charts and reports.  So I was going to add 
> that to my program when I found the PAF program.  I liked the reports 
> and tools in that program so instead of adding that functionality to 
> my own program, I created a tool to convert the data in my program to 
> a GED file and I then import it into a PAF file.  All this probably 
> sounds confusing but it works for me.  The reason I haven't gotten 
> rid of my own program is cause it still does things that PAF doesn't 
> do...and besides it has sentimental value...jk... :-)
> 
> Talk to you later,
> Angie Godina
> 
>