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Arambula es un apellido vasco.

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Well go figure. Another Basque name.  Thank you for the information. In all the Basque listing of surnames I never came across this one.  I know my husbands family will be happy to know this.  From that region my paternal grandma was surnamed Velasco.  A new state assemblyman Juan Arambula from Fresno I believe just took office.  His family via an e-mail to a friend confirms his roots from Los Altos.

 

Again, thank you and I am anxious to delve into the materials you have.

Off Topic: Apologies - El Paso

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PLEASE CONTACT ME OFF LIST:



Can anyone that lives in El Paso, Texas that occassionally goes to the
UT El Paso for research please contact me as I have a favor to ask.
Seems that I found that a wonderful study guide exists and was hoping
someone could photocopy or digital camera copy it for me:




face="Tahoma,Arial,Helvetica" size="4">Partial name index to
Archivos del Ayuntamiento de Chihuahua, ca. 1712-1813 :


MF 491, University Library,
University of Texas at El Paso /

Cheryl English Martin

1999

English

align="middle" src="gifXH2s1tAqx3.gif" alt="Book"> Book
[1], 12, 7, 14, 4, 5, 6, 15, 2, 4, 3, 6, 14, 49
leaves ; 28 cm.
[El Paso, Tex.] : Cheryl English Martin,

Misc. Dissertations: Jalisco

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Pacorro73@... wrote:

Please, Joseph, tell me....  Where did you find this
Dissertation Abstract?

the database: "Dissertation Abstacts" check with your local library for
it or your largest University library. there is another service called
"Digital Dissertations" (I think?) that lets you purchase dissertations
for something like $35 as of about a year ago. Prices may have changed.
then again you can contact the specific library listed and ask them for
ILL possibilities or if you have University borrowing privledges***
then you can try to initiate a loan through them (I think ILL is more
likely from one University to another rather than to a public library).
Checking with the originiating libary will be your last resort as I'm
sure for a $ you can make arrangements to have the dissertation sent to
you even though if it is close enought (one was UCSD) you can just go
there and look at it free (well thats the way its been for the
libraries I've attended. . .check with UCSD for their specifics)



[***University borrowing privledges



I have borrowing priledges from Duke, UNC, and NCSU via a program for
continuing education at NCSU. I think it might be possible for your to
join your own continiuing education program and secure borrowing
privledges if you are not an alumni. Or if you are some Universities
might let you become a "friend" of the library for a $ and allow you to
borrow.]

Arambula es un apellido vasco.

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In a message dated 18/12/2004 04:43:25 p.m. Pacific Standard Time, golcala01@... writes:


Sylvia Robles <sylrobles@...> wrote:



I live in Southern California. San Bernardino-Riverside Inland Empire.  In short I came back from Teocaltiche, Jalisco with a book written by a local historian.  My husbands uncle by marriage noticed the book and his mother Arambula--how Arab can it get-- was from there. 

The surname Arambula is very much a Basque, or Euzkadi, surname, not an Arab name.  Arambula is just variation however of the original Basque form, which was ARAMBURU.  Once over here in Mexico, they began to change the spelling aroung a lot.  Arambulo, which is another variation, is one of my surnames from the Zapotlanejo area.  Originally they came from the Gonzalez de Aramburu family of Nochistlan, Zacatecas. 

 

I've seen it as Aramburu, Arambulo, Arambula, Aranburu, Aranbulo, Aranbula, Aramvuru, Aramvulo, Aramvula, Aranvuru, Aranvulo, Aranvula, and even once as Arambo.  Reminds me of Sly Stallone (Hay, Rambo). Whoa!! 

 

By far the most common forms are the first three:  Aramburu, Arambula, and very rarely Arambulo.  I saw something on the Aramburu/Arambula/Arambulo surname Forum on Genealogy.com that there were many Arambulo's in Peru.

 










What does the Arambula name mean?
Last Name: Arambula

Misc. Dissertations: Jalisco

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Sometimes you just can't find your way past a road block. When that
happens you need to ask: "Do I want to get past this obstacle or not?"
Reading stuff that is not directly related to your genealogy is
sometimes necessary. Immersion (bautizmo) is something that you should
consider. . .immerse yourself in everything about your area. read read
read. You never know when you will read something that might give you a
perspective different than your current one. . .one that might get you
to a source of further information. Later if I remember I'll do a search
of Zacatecas and Aguascalientes:

TI: Le role de la religion dans le developpement d'une identite
regionale: La cas de la region de Los Altos de Jalisco, Mexique (French
text)

AU: Lamothe-Genevieve
DN: MA
DD: 2003
SN: McGill-University-Canada (0781)
AD: Norget-Kristin
IB: 0612886581
PG: 96
LA: French

AB: This thesis looks at the origin, development and perpetuation of a
religiously based regional identity in the region of Los Altos, in the
state of Jalisco, Mexico. An examination of the interaction between
Catholic religion, specific historical events, collective memory and
regional discourse reveals how religion as a factor informing collective
affiliation can be mobilized in ways that have social and political
significance.

SU: Anthropology-Cultural (0326); Religion-General (0318)
SO: VOLUME 42-05 OF DISSERTATION ABSTRACTS INTERNATIONAL. PAGE 1511.
NO: AAIMQ88658
WEBLH:
============================

TI: Ethno-nationalist politics and cultural preservation: Education and
bordered identities among the Wixaritari (Huichol) of Tateikita,
Jalisco, Mexico

SIX TLAXCALAN COLONIES

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If you want to read more about this why not purchase this dissertation
(if you do please let me know as I've been wanting to do it for a long
time, but haven't gotten to it as yet):



TI: SIX TLAXCALAN COLONIES ON NEW SPAIN'S NORTHERN FRONTIER; A
COMPARISON OF SUCCESS AND FAILURE (MEXICO)

AU: SEGO-EUGENE-B

DN: PHD

DD: 1990

SN: INDIANA-UNIVERSITY (0093)

PG: 320

LA: ENGLISH

AB: In their desire to end the long and costly warfare with the nomadic
Indians on colonial Mexico's northern frontier, Spanish officials
pursued a number of remedies; one of which was pacification of the
region through the introduction of colonies of Indian allies from
central Mexico. By far the most energetic and large-scale effort of
this type took place in 1591, when about one thousand Tlaxcalans were
sent north to found six widely scattered settlements. This study traces
the history of five of them (San Luis Colotlan,
San Andres del Teul, San Miguel Mesquitic, Nuestra Senora de la
Asuncion de Tlaxcalilla, and San Sebastian del Agua del Venado), in an
attempt to ascertain the impact of the expedition in general, and
individual successes and failures experienced at each colony. In
addition, comparisons have been made with events occurring at the sixth
and northernmost colony, San Esteban de Nueva Tlaxcala--the history of
which has been reported in earlier dissertations.

For the most part
the colonization plan was quite successful, although the San Andres
settlement sustained a vicious attack and was abandoned within only a
few months. Overall peace was maintained, with just a few sporadic and
localized rebellions occurring thereafter. However, it is now apparent
that the Tlaxcalans were faced with a more more significant and
long-term threat from their Spanish neighbors (miners, ranchers, and
hacienda owners), than from the northern Indians. Abundant
documentation of the legal disputes between the two groups exists;
representing a litany of complaints as registered by the 1591 colonists
and their descendants, through Independence and beyond. But while

Dual Marriage Question

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hi Alicia,

merry christmas. . .

Alicia Carrillo wrote:


Sylvia,


Great history and summary.

My family also hails from Teocaltiche, the Olmos, Ruiz Esparza,
Avelar, Aguayo and Gomez lines. Still trying to decipher some of the
family lines. The GGG, abuelo Prudencio Olmos creatied some
interesting family ties in that he had two sets of wives and families
and appeared to be married at the same time to both women. The first
wife and family should have inherited the wealth but it was just the
opposite. Needles to say this created much dissention within the
families. Through the years I would hear comments such as "son de los
otros Olmos", meaning that it wasn't the same Olmos family. I'm still
working on this and need more verification that they were the same
family. I'm thinking that the reason he could pull this off was
because Prudencio married in different states, first wife in
Nochistlan Zacatecas and second wife in Teocaltiche Jalisco. Does
anyone know of other instances of dual marriages of one male and
married in the church?

Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

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The Villarreal's are a very prominent family from the Zacatecas region, which although a different state than Jalisco is very close to Los Altos.  The main trade caravans during the period using mule teams were out of Teocaltiche.  They traveled locally and all the way to Santa Fe.  I will scan and post the info I have.

Joseph?

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My prayers will
be for the recovery of your brother.

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God
bless.

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size=2>Alberto.


size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: glo Sandoval-Fuentes
[mailto:gloriafuentes@...]
Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004
11:40 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos]
Joseph?


   Joseph,

Is there
anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to
sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition
with a head injury.

He is my last living brother and I understand the
DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and
be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you
call it?

Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and
away from my
computer.

thank you
gloria



Joseph?

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so sorry to hear about your brother. I don't know of ways to preserve
the DNA without one of the collection kits sent out with the test. I
might be wrong about this but I think there are more expensive tests
that can be done with hair. Another thing to consider is does your
brother have any male children because you can pick up your dad's side
via his male children and you can get your mom's mom's mom's etc side
via your own MtDNA.


again sorry to hear about your brother.

joseph

glo Sandoval-Fuentes wrote:


  Joseph,

Is there anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition with a head injury.

He is my last living brother and I understand the DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you call it?

Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and away from my
computer.


thank you
gloria






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Joseph?

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  Joseph,

Is there anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition with a head injury.

He is my last living brother and I understand the DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you call it?

Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and away from my
computer.


thank you
gloria

Joseph?

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  Joseph,

Is there anyway to get a sample myself from my brother of his DNA? I am
heading to sacramento as my brother has had an accident and is in serious
condition with a head injury.

He is my last living brother and I understand the DNA has to come from the
males? Is there anyway I can swab his mouth and be told a way to preserve it
until I can get it analyzed or what ever you call it?

Please let me know asap as I will be flying out tonite and away from my
computer.


thank you
gloria

DNA: Soy Indio Tambien!

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Joseph,

These are the Native-American haplogroups for Mt-DNA:
A, B, C, D,

These are the European haplogroups for Mt-DNA: H, J,
U, V, T, X, I

Which one did you come out, I came out X.


Saludos,
Angel Cervantes
Cervantes DNA Surname Project
Project Administrator



		
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Sylvia's ONE LAST TRY

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I just wanted to share something that about my past.  Recently, I learned what native american blood we have from our father's side of the family.

 

On the marriage record of Thomas Bermeo and Juana Flores (1742) it is mentioned that They were "Indios Tlaxcaltecos" and their parents origin was Nadadores,Coahuila, this is a small town close to Cuatro Cienegas.  Here's what's interesting:  Tlaxcaltecos Indians were not indigenous to Nuevo Leon/Coahuila area.  Upon further research, I found out that these were the same Indians that had befriended Cortez and helped bring the Aztec empire down.  Further, they were brought up by the Espanoles to the Nuevo Leon/Coahuila area to help docile the local population. 

 

I thought this information was wonderful and it was found through birth certificates!.  Our indigenous heritage was purposely down-played, and I, for one was delighted to find out why some of us are "morenos" on our father's side of the family.

 

Regarding the DNA project, a distant cousin of mine did do it.  He found out that we were Jewish, as was suspected with our Villarreal line.  Later, I found out that my great uncle always knew about our heritage, but the aunts kept it under wraps, for fear of "talk".  That explains why this side of the family aren't real "catolicos-romanos-apostolicos".  Further, I found out that I am a direct link to the Villarreales who settled in the Nuevo Leon area - my great great grandfather was from the very same area - how cool is that?  We are trying to find out about the other Villarreal (my grandmother was also one) - and when the migration occurred to Cd Victoria and then Coahuila.

 

I wish I could find similar type of information on my mom's side of the family, who are from Zacatecas.  I am beginning to suspect that they may have come from Jalisco before settling there - I am at a stand-still with the Herrera/Luna branch who came from the Tlaltenango area.  I may have to make a visit to the local archives.

 

Esperanza

 

I

DNA: Soy Indio Tambien!

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alice wissing wrote:


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Joseph,
 
Would you be willing to share the results of your DNA test with
the group?

absolutely, would be willing to, but I haven't quite figured out how to
do that. let me think on it a bit. I've forwarded this message to Gary
Felix with the question of how best I should share my DNA results with
a group of people.

Food Traditions

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Hello All,

 

I have been following the conversations about food traditions and how to cook Menudo, Pozole, etc.  I don't know if anyone shares the custom that we have in the Sain Alto region of Zacatecas.  Many people have Reliquias (Spelling?).  These are celebrations in honor of a patron saint.  Households will cook a whole lot of food and then pray a rosary in honor of that saint and the best part of all is that the food will be given away to anyone that comes to the house.  If you wish to eat in the home that is acceptable and if not, then families will normally bring a dish and it will be filled to take home.  It is a wonderful tradition that we have in Sain Alto.

 

My husband is from Magdalena, Jalisco and he has never heard of a Reliquia.  My father-in-law's parents and grandparents are from Zacatecas and he has heard of and attended some Reliquia.  So this leads me to believe that it may be a Zacatecas thing.  What do you think?

 

And yes, I too celebrate all of my various light, dark and fair skin colored family members. I know what it is like to have a family with an aray of colors.  It is wonderful to think and know that our children and grandchildren might look like or resemble any of our ancestors, light, dark, short, tall , or medium.

 

Dora

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