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New poll for ranchos


Enter your vote today!  A new poll has been created for the 
ranchos group:

You can only vote if you have already
submitted your genealogy, but even if
you haven't you can still influence by
giving your opinion via an email to the
group (freedom of speech).

Question: Should the requirements for
being a member of Ranchos be More Strict
(have your genealogy in hand to submit
before being accepted into the group);
the same as now; or less Strict?
 
I will not change anything unless 75% of
the permanent members vote and if I get
60% of those voting to vote for one of
the choices.  

  o More Strict 
  o The Same 
  o Less Strict 
  o Other 


To vote, please visit the following web page:
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/ranchos/surveys?id=1585766 

Note: Please do not reply to this message. Poll votes are 
not collected via email. To vote, you must go to the Yahoo! Groups 
web site listed above.

Thanks!

 







DoNotSendGenealogiesToTheGroup!/was MartinDelCampo

DO NOT send the group a FTM file!



do either of two things:



1) send me the .rtf or .doc file perferably as a genealogy report, I'll
make a private folder for you with your email address on it in the
files area or. . .



2) do the above yourself.



I'm wanting to keep the message archives "Public" but the genealogies
"Private" so sending the genealogies "to the group" would defeat that
purpose.



Also just a note. . .for those that have not sent anything in please
start with your grandparents going back for privacy sake. I'd hate for
some of your currently living relatives to get upset because you put
their details on the net even in the private manner I'm trying to
maintain.



thanks much for your participation.



joseph



ps: see my notes with regards to your message




alice wissing wrote:


cite="">
Maria,
 
I'm guilty of not sending my information in.  I've got my Martin
del Campo name traced pretty far (thanks to Mr. Hernandez helping me
overcome a hurdle) but I really wanted to trace the Romo de Vivars
before sending information in.  I've been awaiting some info from the
Mormons for almost 3 months - they cashed my check and never sent me
anything.



contact them I'm sure they weren't purposely trying to pull a fast one
on you. If you deserve a refund of your money I believe you'll get one.


cite="">
 
Joseph is laying down the law and I don't have the option of
waiting any longer, I guess!

there is no guessing involved here. If
you communicate with me you can have an extention if
you don't
you will feel the swiftness of my axe
swing. . .that is if you call a swing that takes between now and April
15, 2005 swift. When I was just a chamaco they used to scare me up real
good with threats of the "Cucui" that was going to come and get me. .
.just think of me as your Cyberspace Cucui.

HTG/Reminder

My Saldivars also supposedly are connected by
marriage to Moctezuma, too!  Small world, huh?  Anyway, it's only myth
so far.  Marge:) 


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----- Original Message -----


style="BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: black">From:
alice
wissing


Sent: Wednesday, November 24, 2004 3:06
PM

Subject: Re: [ranchos] HTG/Reminder



Marge,

 

You think you've got problems, I traced my Martin del Campo family to the
Romo de Vivars, which leads to the Ruiz de Esparza family, and supposedly they
descend from Moctezuma.  For whatever reasons, people laugh
hysterically when they hear Moctezuma's name.  And former President
Lopez-Portillo was a Martin del Campo, as well, and that elicits more
laughter.  Sadly, my grandparents came to Carpinteria, CA to pick
lemons and green beans, making all these discoveries seem unreal to
people. 

 

Alicia      

marge vallazza
<TeaCozyGran@...>
wrote:

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HTG/Reminder


In a message dated 11/24/2004 3:09:12 PM Central Standard Time, alice_wissing@... writes:


Anyway, my ignorance of computer programming is what has delayed my submitting this to you.  My Saldivar line married into the Morillo line that was entered by a Villavicencio bride.  This Villavicencio (Juliana del Carmen) was a descendant of many of the conquistadores of Mexico and of the noblest families of Spain, who also descended from the French king, Charlemagne.  Cool, huh?  But as my Tia Carmen heatedly said, " Yeah, if my mother's family was so noble and rich, how come they didn't give her a helping hand when she needed it?"  Well, that was hundreds of years ago, Tia.  Talk about a Tess of the D'Urbervilles situation!!!!

Hi, on my Villarreal side, one of my distant cousins supposedly can trace our family to Spain's royal family.  This has been known in my family for generations.  When I first found out about it, I asked my aunt why she had not shared it with the next generation.  She responded: "That's not who we are today".  How true, I thought.  But they still like to bring it up, especially because coming from a "good family with a good name" was viewed as more important than your own qualities/personality. I guess that is the inheritance we received from the Espanoles....

 

Esperanza

Martin del Campo

Hi Alice,
I was looking for your genealogy in the files section, but couldn't 
find it.  You said you have Martin del Campo ancestry and I wanted to 
see if we have a link.  I have several Martin del Campo lines in my 
family tree. 
Maria
 
--- In ranchos@yahoogroups.com, alice wissing <alice_wissing@y...> 
wrote:
> Marge,
>  
> You think you've got problems, I traced my Martin del Campo family 
to the Romo de Vivars, which leads to the Ruiz de Esparza family, and 
supposedly they descend from Moctezuma.  For whatever reasons, people 
laugh hysterically when they hear Moctezuma's name.  And former 
President Lopez-Portillo was a Martin del Campo, as well, and that 
elicits more laughter.  Sadly, my grandparents came to Carpinteria, 
CA to pick lemons and green beans, making all these discoveries seem 
unreal to people.  
>  
> Alicia       
> 
> marge vallazza <TeaCozyGran@k...> wrote:
> Dear Joseph,
> Attached is my family history from my grandmother, Altagracia 
Gonzalez.  Please look it over and ensure that it starts with her.  
I'm sorry it's a zip file and I think a Gedcom.  I converted it from 
PAF.5
>  
> Anyway, my ignorance of computer programming is what has delayed my 
submitting this to you.  My Saldivar line married into the Morillo 
line that was entered by a Villavicencio bride.  This Villavicencio 
(Juliana del Carmen) was a descendant of many of the conquistadores 
of Mexico and of the noblest families of Spain, who also descended 
from the French king, Charlemagne.  Cool, huh?  But as my Tia Carmen 
heatedly said, " Yeah, if my mother's family was so noble and rich, 
how come they didn't give her a helping hand when she needed it?"  
Well, that was hundreds of years ago, Tia.  Talk about a Tess of the 
D'Urbervilles situation!!!!
>  
> Let me know if this is acceptable to you...Birthday Boy.  Have a 
good one.  Sincerely, Marge Vallazza:)
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: Joseph Puentes 
> To: LosRanchos 
> Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:09 PM
> Subject: [ranchos] HTG/Reminder
> 
> 
> 
> Irma sent me a Happy Thanksgiving note and greeting, well I'm a 
Turkey boy as on some years my birthday falls right on Thanksgiving 
but not this year. Well enough of that, Happy Thanksgiving to 
everyone, happy birthday to me, and bear with me as I start to 
sharpen my Axe for the holidays.
>  

HTG/Reminder

Marge,

 

You think you've got problems, I traced my Martin del Campo family to the Romo de Vivars, which leads to the Ruiz de Esparza family, and supposedly they descend from Moctezuma.  For whatever reasons, people laugh hysterically when they hear Moctezuma's name.  And former President Lopez-Portillo was a Martin del Campo, as well, and that elicits more laughter.  Sadly, my grandparents came to Carpinteria, CA to pick lemons and green beans, making all these discoveries seem unreal to people. 

 

Alicia      

marge vallazza <TeaCozyGran@...> wrote:

HTG/Reminder



Irma sent me a Happy Thanksgiving note and greeting, well I'm a Turkey
boy as on some years my birthday falls right on Thanksgiving but not
this year. Well enough of that, Happy Thanksgiving to everyone, happy
birthday to me, and bear with me as I start to sharpen my Axe for the
holidays.

 

. . . .Sorry to be so blunt but this group is not a free ride for
anyone. [mind you its almost free as in some communication will
definitely buy you a by]. . .enough of the riddles. . . .

                 . . .if you haven't submitted your genealogy [as
in never ever]
you need to communicate with me as to when you
are going to send it. When you send it to me I'll make up a file in the
non public files with your name, email address, and geographical
locations that includes your submission. If you are not ready
fine, just communicate with me
. How about we establish an
ultimate deadline of April 15th [Maybe those that need to give to the
Feds will not feel bad about giving a little more in the form of their
absent genealogy submission].



What I'll expect:

    1) your genealogy in .rtf or .doc format preferably as a genealogy
report but it could be submitted in an email



    2) or communication with me via a private email explaining why you
need more time and approximately how much more time would be
appropriate to the task. [forget the why part, that's your
business, just tell me the when part
].



    3) other (something I haven't thought about, but this would still
require some kind of communication on your part)



So everyone that wants to remain a part of this group needs to do some
homework between now and April 15th, 2005. You need to go to the
"files" and "Links" and see if there is an entry for your genealogy
there. IF you don't find one communicate with me.




REMINDER: this email doesn't apply to those good folks that have

Genealogy

I agree with it 100%. I think I am at the last
stage!!!!!!

Translation:

Genelagía

Comienza como un interés,
Se convierte en un pasatiempo,
Continúa como una advocación,
Se vuelve una obsesión,
Y en su última instancia
es una enfermedad incurable.

Autor desconocido.

--- Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:

> 
> Genealogy
> 
> Begins as an interest,
> Becomes a hobby,
> Continues as an avocation,
> Takes over as an obsession,
> and in its last stage
> is an incurable disease.
> 
> unknown author
> 
> [would anyone care to give a translated version?]
> 
> 



		
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Genealogy

Genealogia

 

Comienza solo como interes casual,

Enseguida se convierte en un hobby,

Continua' como una vocacion,

Luego se convierte en un obsesion

En su ultima etapa, se convierte en una obsesion.

 

Joseph, Hope this does it.............Alicia

Joseph Puentes <makas@...> wrote:


Genealogy

Begins as an interest,
Becomes a hobby,
Continues as an avocation,
Takes over as an obsession,
and in its last stage
is an incurable disease.
unknown author

[would anyone care to give a translated version?]


Genealogy


Genealogy

Begins as an interest,
Becomes a hobby,
Continues as an avocation,
Takes over as an obsession,
and in its last stage
is an incurable disease.
unknown author

[would anyone care to give a translated version?]