Hi, Al. Can you provide me with more information on
your Chihuahua family. Specifically for the Saenz and
Flores. I'm researching my wife's family, and on her
mother side they are Flores and Saenz. Only they are
from Valle del Rosario. Any information will be
greatly appreciated.

Guillermo Valdez.


--- Al Duarte <aduarte@...> wrote:

> Actually, I believe she was from Delicias,
> Chihuahua.  I have to check my
> marriage records to confirm it. But my uncle Nicanor
> Prieto was from
> Camargo, Chihuahua.  I also have Sanez, Pena,
> Fierro, Villa, Fernandez,
> Alvarez, Ortega, Leyva, and many others. from
> Camargo and San Francisco de
> Conchos.  Please see my family tree on this website.
> 
> Viva Chihuahua! And also Zacatecas!
> 
> Regards.
> 
> Alberto Duarte Prieto
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: Yolanda Bobby Perez
> [mailto:windrocklili@...]
>   Sent: Monday, November 01, 2004 2:47 PM
>   To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>   Subject: RE: [ranchos] Rey/Reyes Name
> 
> 
>   Al,
>   I don't find maria in my files but, I do have
> about 40 Banuelas from
> Camargo in my tree. Three of my grandparents were
> born in Camargo and
> perhaps Maria Flores Banuelas is connected thru the
> Banuelas line. Some of
> my surnames in Camargo are  SAENZ, MEDINA, 
> SAAVEDRA,  AGUILAR, FIERRO,
> RUIZREY, GUTIERRES, VASQUES,  PORRAS,  RUBIO, 
> FLORES AND BANUELAS.   Do you
> have more info  on the Banuelas line?  I know I need
> to submit my family
> lines to the ranchos group. What other lines are you
> researching in Camargo
> or Santa Rosalia, perhaps I can look in my book "
> CAMARGO, Dos Decadas de
> Subida".  Just let me know and I will look.
> 
>   Al Duarte <aduarte@...> wrote:
>     Yolanda:
>     Was Maria Flores Banulos related to you? She was
> married to my
> great-uncle Nicanor Prieto, in Camargo, Chihuahua,
> circa 1900.
> 
>     Alberto Duarte Prieto.
>       -----Original Message-----
>       From: yolanda medina-perez
> [mailto:windrocklili@...]
>       Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004 9:30 AM
>       To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
>       Subject: [ranchos] Rey/Reyes Name
> 
> 
> 
>       I have on more than one occasion heard that
> people with the Rey or

size=2>-----Original Message-----
From: yolanda medina-perez
[mailto:windrocklili@...]
Sent: Sunday, October 31, 2004
9:30 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos]
Rey/Reyes Name

I have on more than one occasion
heard that people with the Rey or
Reyes last name belong to one and the
same family. How can this be
possible??  Has anyone heard similar
comments or can anyone
elaborate. Is it a root name of another name, where
does it
orginate, does it come from another country??? In my family I have

RuizRey, Flores-Rey, Rey, these families are from the Camargo

Chihuahua area. Yet, my daughter married a Tomas Rey in El Paso,
Tx.

Are they related or what?

Thanks for the very nice and informative e-mail on the
surnames.
--- Pacorro73@... wrote:

>   
> Ranchos,
>  
> Soon after the Spanish Conquest of Mexico and
> thereafter during Colonial 
> times, the ruling Españoles did not permit the
> Native Indians from possessing 
> surnames unless the Indios were of a special allied
> family, the Indios somehow had 
> earned themselves a surname, or eventually the
> adopted a surname out of names 
> that were not necessarily surnames.
>  
> Reyes is one such last name.  Every year on January
> 6, the Catholic Church 
> celebrates the Feast Day of the Epiphany, or Feast
> of the Magi, when the three 
> wise king visited the Baby Jesus in Bethlehem.  In
> Mexico and Spain the day is 
> called Epifanía or â??Día de los Reyes Magos.â?? 
> The â??Reyesâ?? were called 
> Melchor, Gaspar, and Baltazar.  So as a result of
> this holy day, many children born 
> on or near the holy-day were named one or a
> combination of the following:  
> José Epifánio, María Epifánia, José de los
> Reyes, María de los Reyes, Melchor, 
> Melchora, Gaspar, or Baltazar.
>  
> This is essentially what happened to children born
> on other saint feast days. 
>  San Juan de la Cruzâ??s feast day prompted many
> children to be called Juan de 
> la Cruz, Juana de la Cruz, José de la Cruz, María
> de la Cruz, etc.  That is 
> why so many Indios have the surname Cruz or De la
> Cruz.  Same thing with 
> surnames like Rosa, Rosas, De la Rosa, Bautista
> (after San Juan Bautista-St. John the 
> Baptist), Trinidad (La Santísima Trinidad),
> Concepción (La Inmaculada 
> Concepción), De Jesús, Ignacio, Xavier, Aquino
> (Santo Tomás Aquino-St. Thomas 
> Aquinas), and many, many more I donâ??t remember
> right now.  
>  
> Many Indians children were baptized with these
> names, and over time surnames 
> such as Reyes, de los Reyes, Melchor, Gaspar,
> Baltazar, etc., began to appear, 
> not just in Mexico, but in other colonies, like the
> Philippines, Cuba, and 
> Puerto Rico.  That is how the native Tagalog, or
> freed African slaves got their 
> last names also.  
>  
> As an example, I can relate the tale of my
> motherâ??s maiden name, López.  My 
> motherâ??s direct male line was López going back
> every generation until about 

I have on more than one occasion heard that people with the Rey or 
Reyes last name belong to one and the same family. How can this be 
possible??  Has anyone heard similar comments or can anyone 
elaborate. Is it a root name of another name, where does it 
orginate, does it come from another country??? In my family I have 
RuizRey, Flores-Rey, Rey, these families are from the Camargo 
Chihuahua area. Yet, my daughter married a Tomas Rey in El Paso, Tx.

Are they related or what? 

Matrimonios:

    M611173       1799 - 1877       1158237
    M611174       1877 - 1885       1158238

Title Descripción y censo general de la Intendencia de Guadalajara,
1789-1793
Stmnt.Resp. José Menéndez Valdés; estudio preliminar y versión de texto
de Ramón Ma. Serrera

Authors	Menendez Valdes, Jose (Main Author)
Serrera, Ramón María (Added Author)

Subjects 	Mexico, Jalisco - Census - Statistics
Mexico, Jalisco - Land and property - Statistics
Mexico, Jalisco - Description and travel

Copies
Call Number 	Location
972.35 X4m 	FHL INTL Book

Format 	Books/Monographs
Language 	Spanish
Publication 	Guadalajara, Jal. : Gobierno de Jalisco, c1980
Physical 	161 p. : il., cartas, 1 mapa (col.)

Subject Class 	972.35 X4
Series 	Colección historia. Serie estadísticas básicas : 1

For a printable version of this record click here then click your
browser's Print button.

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.
==========================================================

Title	Capellanías, 1606-1899
Authors	Iglesia Católica. Diócesis de Guadalajara (México) (Main Author)

Notes Microfilme de manuscritos en el Archivo de la Sagrada Mitra en
Guadalajara.Ecclesiastical documents regarding donations to the parishes
of the Diocese of Guadalajara, Jalisco, Mexico for charitable purposes
or for the support of the clergy.

Subjects 	Mexico, Jalisco - Church records
Mexico, Jalisco, Guadalajara - Church records

Format 	Manuscript (On Film)
Language 	Spanish

Publication Salt Lake City [Utah] : Filmados por la Sociedad
Genealógica de Utah, 1957-1958

Physical 	157 carretes de microfilme ; 35 mm.
========================

if you have what kind of information is on them? It appears that it
might have the names of those that gave significant donations? thanks,

joseph

 Film # 1410916

Film

Item 1 Recopilación histórica, genealógica y heráldica de la familia de
Unda Unda y Murillo : llevada acabo especialmente para el Sr. licenciado
Jusús Victor Unda y Murillo Aparicio y Aparicio, Edgar Juan

Item 2 Estudio histórico y genealógico sobre la familia Guerra de las
montañas de Asturias y de Santander : rama de la Nueva Galicia con un
apéndice sobre la familia Romo de Vivar González-Leal, Mariano

Item 3 Los Altamirano en la conquista de América  Morales, Manuel de

Item 4 Libro de oro de los apellidos españoles, su etimología,
genealogía, y heráldica. Vilches y Marín, Ernesto de

Item 5 Los Morales de los Ríos  Nieto y Cortadellas, Rafael

Item 6 Un linaje de San Agustín de Tecolotlán, los Agraz Agraz García
de Alba, Gabriel

6 titles matching the film number.

© 2002 Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved.

FYI:

Title	Las minas de Nueva España en 1753
Stmnt.Resp.	Alvaro López Miramontes
Authors	López Miramontes, Alvaro (Main Author)

México. Instituto Nacional de Antropología. Departamento de
Investigaciones Históricas. Seminario de Historia Urbana (Added Author)

Notes Incluye índice.Información compilada referente a los reales de
Bolaños, Taxco, Tetela del Río, Tetela de Xonatla, Escandela
(Cadereita), Mezquital del Oro, Santa Eulalia y San Felipe del Real
(Chihuahua) en 1753.The mines of Mexico in 1753.

Subjects 	Mexico - History - 1548-1817
Mexico - Land and property
Mexico - Business records and commerce

Copies
Call Number 	Location
972 H2L 	FHL INTL Book

Format 	Books/Monographs
Language 	Spanish
Publication 	México : Instituto Nacional de Antropología e Historia, 1975
Physical 	108 p. : il.

Subject Class 	972 H2
Series 	Colección científica. Fuentes. Historia económica : 29

Hi Joseph
I joined the Family Dna,  Is this the same.  I was a little disappointed with them, I paid around $200. 00 total for me and my brother, he is no longer with us as of this year.

What would be different with this DNA to the Family DNA
 
Mary 

-----Original Message-----
From: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Oct 8, 2004 9:46 AM
To: ranchos@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [ranchos] Digest Number 329



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Message: 1         
   Date: Thu, 07 Oct 2004 13:29:37 -0400
   From: Joseph Puentes <makas@...>
Subject: DNA Forum


okay, i just know that some of you are itching (pues rasca) to know 
about your Mexican DNA. And i just know you wish this group provided you 
with a lot more high quality messages for you to increase your learning 
on this subject. . .well never fear the Mexico DNA forum is alive and in 
operation thanks to Gary Felix. why not have a look and get all your 
questions asked and wait for some good answers. . . .well those answers 
won't be coming from me because I'm still in the asking mode.

http://www.ybase.org/forum/forum_topics.asp?FID=511

joseph

ps: the main DNA page for this project is found at: 
http://members.tripod.com/~GaryFelix/index63.htm




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Message: 2         
   Date: 7 Oct 2004 21:13:22 -0000
   From: ranchos
Subject: New file uploaded to ranchos



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